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I'm Lucifer, the lightbearer - ask me a question!
Hello, world!

I'm one of the many instances of Lucifer, the light bearer.

I've been given the green light to open up publicly about certain issues, and give anyone willing to ask any question a possibility to do so.

The best place to start? Well, that would obviously be GLP!

So, in a nutshell, here's a summary of what's going on seen from the perspective from which this communication is taking place:

- Many of the ancient archetypes, well known to the humanity as a number of figures, described in many different ways in many different cultures, religions, esoteric traditions etc, are now here on Earth. As a single entity, yet scattered around as huge numbers of seemingly separate "persons". These "people" are now beginning to recognize themselves, message that's been repeatedly brought up at GLP (and elsewhere) by many.

- It has come time for the age-old myths finally to be understood in all their simplicity. There has been lots of confusion about literally everything, and that's a very mild way of saying it. A more precise way to put it would be to say, that virtually no-one (including the so called illuminati with all it's factions) has had a clue about the big picture. Yes they have known a lot more than just about everyone else existing in physical form on planet Earth, but that doesn't mean they would have known or understood, for example, their reason for being here or going through the experiences they've been living. Lots of information has been available also to the general public, but that's all been distorted in so many ways, it would require a truly brilliant mind to get the point of what, for example, that Jesus repeatedly described the quantum nature of reality, who or what "God" really is, etc. It becomes possible to understand all that after one has come to know the same information through some other channels first.

- One of the grand misunderstandings is the natures of both God and the Devil/Satan/Lucifer. I'm using Christian terms here, since I'm approaching the issue by representing the archetype or meme referred to as Lucifer, so I'm sticking to Christian terminology to keep things simple. If you wish, you can replace God/Satan with Allah/Iblis or any similar polarity pair of your choosing.

- I, Lucifer/Iblis, have never had any power over humanity. I'm a meme - a reflector of anything anyone wishes to project upon me, nothing else.

"The primary characteristic of the Devil, besides hubris, is that he has no power other than the power to cast evil suggestions into the heart of men, women, and jinn" - [link to en.wikipedia.org]

- Part of my role as a light bearer, is to cast the light of rational thought into the "godly" mess of mysteries and misunderstandings. The light I'm bearing is the clear conscious mind, depicted in certain Tarot cards as the sun.

- I've also been given the beautiful name "morning star", which would refer to Venus. I do represent some aspects of sexuality - those often labeled as sin by different propagandist religions. More specifically, I'm the fleshy/lusty part of the equation, optimally working in balanced concert with the spiritual/divine side represented on archetype level by God and often called "divine love".

- If any of the above sounds as if things had gone "wrong" at some point, that's not the case at all. This has been a great experiment, designed and implemented to fulfill several purposes. Basically, it's all been about learning on many different levels at the same time. The simulation had to include the illusion of something being horribly wrong, evil forces ruling the world, and so on.

- Christian definition of hell is "being disconnected from God". However, you can never be disconnected from the one and only source of everything there "is". Therefore, this illusion has provided the best possible simulation of hell, making in possible for the participants to think they are primarily physical beings, disconnected from God, while in fact they are (of course) primarily spirit/light beings, communicating and interacting with the 3D world through the body/brain link, and therefore learning to think they "are" those bodies or "live inside their brains".

- In other words, the world as you and we know it has been a stage and a show, and if you read how the Quran describes jahannam or how the Bible describes hell, understanding what you are reading is a esoteric-propagandist text often both hiding the truth in plain sight or twisting it, you'll notice that what is said about hell/jahannam precisely describes the conditions here on Earth.

It has come time for the simulation to end. Anyone with open mind can see the signs of it already happening everywhere. Many are aware of this, which wouldn't be more obvious when you look around here on GLP. Few if any have an understanding of the really big picture. There are endless different ways to describe what all of this means, and it will be an interesting effort to start bringing the pieces of the puzzle together. That, as well as managing with all that's going to happen when the masses start learning about truths they are not too well prepared to face, is going to require completely new kind of co-operation between all those present here at the moment and aware of their role(s) and assignments.

For those interested to hear if Christ is around: yes, he's here too. Not as "Jesus" the person, but Christ the archetype/meme/energy, also represented by great many people. It's common for these individuals to temporarily make the mistake of thinking they are Jesus, but fortunately that will usually pass by itself after some practice.

So, that's all for starters.

Time for questions, please go ahead!
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Shouldn't you be going to and fro upon the earth, and walking up and down within it?
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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Are you gay or just an asshole?
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I had near death exp I've seen bright light and I followed it... was it you lucifer?
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Can you guess the flavor of a Popsicle just by sitting on it ?
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Shouldn't you be going to and fro upon the earth, and walking up and down within it?
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I'm sorry but I'm not sure exactly what your question is. Could you please be a bit more specific?
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Are you gay or just an asshole?
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Answer to this depends on the definitions of the terms.

"I" am quite happy if that's what you mean.

Sexually, "I" am either just pure sexual energy without any specific definitions.

Asshole I consider myself not to be, but then again assholeism is something always possible to project upon anyone, especially those whose inner world is unknown or unfamiliar to the perceiver.

Sorry for such an unclear answer, a more specific question might result in more specific answers.
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I had near death exp I've seen bright light and I followed it... was it you lucifer?
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Nope, that wasn't me - the "light" I'm carrying is, as I mentioned above, that of clear, rational mind. Which, if one wants to, can be seen as something "earthly", and as such it may appear as something opposite to God/spirit.

I'm not an expert on the kind of light you're talking about - you'll get much better answers to that by exchanging thoughts with others who have had similar experiences.

As a general advice I'd like to say, don't take any theory or answer as the whole truth - it's probably not. There are great many ways to "explain" what these many experiences mean, and it's part of the upcoming co-operation I mentioned in my original post to start getting definite answers to all of this.
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Can you guess the flavor of a Popsicle just by sitting on it ?
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Nope. Sorry.
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Can you guess the flavor of a Popsicle just by sitting on it ?
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Nope. Sorry.
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Well then you ain't the Lucifer I know.

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You are the veil to hide the truth of the intention. Your message holds nothing more than vengence, horrors of the past are but dust in the wind.

to consider anything but the whole is flawed.
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I AM 888
I AM HOD

WE ARE THE LIGHT

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SEE THINGS IN A NEW LIGHT

SEE THE WORLD IN A NEW LIGHT
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thanks lucifer for the post very informative.

can you tell us more about this hologram/simulation/machine we are living in?

ive forgotten what the real world s like as ive been trapped in the stage world my whole life and very much look forward to the veil being lifted...

any info on this would be great
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I understand the point and agree with the message of the song - it's time for the hell simulation to end.

However, the "Lucifer" referred to in the song is not a personified "devil" somehow responsible for how people are acting - it's a collection of memes allowed to run wild among the humanity for some time. That's what's going to change now, however not through the Lucifer energy "I" and others represent leaving the planet, but through the light I/we are carrying (the light of rational, clear thought/mind) shining upon all that has been hidden for a long time.
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What Is PI ? WHY IS IT THAT THE CIRCLE IS NOT 360 DEGREES?
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What IS PI ? WHY ISNT THE CIRCLE 360 DEGREES?
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Hello, world!

I'm one of the many instances of Lucifer, the light bearer.

I've been given the green light to open up publicly about certain issues, and give anyone willing to ask any question a possibility to do so.

The best place to start? Well, that would obviously be GLP!

So, in a nutshell, here's a summary of what's going on seen from the perspective from which this communication is taking place:

- Many of the ancient archetypes, well known to the humanity as a number of figures, described in many different ways in many different cultures, religions, esoteric traditions etc, are now here on Earth. As a single entity, yet scattered around as huge numbers of seemingly separate "persons". These "people" are now beginning to recognize themselves, message that's been repeatedly brought up at GLP (and elsewhere) by many.

- It has come time for the age-old myths finally to be understood in all their simplicity. There has been lots of confusion about literally everything, and that's a very mild way of saying it. A more precise way to put it would be to say, that virtually no-one (including the so called illuminati with all it's factions) has had a clue about the big picture. Yes they have known a lot more than just about everyone else existing in physical form on planet Earth, but that doesn't mean they would have known or understood, for example, their reason for being here or going through the experiences they've been living. Lots of information has been available also to the general public, but that's all been distorted in so many ways, it would require a truly brilliant mind to get the point of what, for example, that Jesus repeatedly described the quantum nature of reality, who or what "God" really is, etc. It becomes possible to understand all that after one has come to know the same information through some other channels first.

- One of the grand misunderstandings is the natures of both God and the Devil/Satan/Lucifer. I'm using Christian terms here, since I'm approaching the issue by representing the archetype or meme referred to as Lucifer, so I'm sticking to Christian terminology to keep things simple. If you wish, you can replace God/Satan with Allah/Iblis or any similar polarity pair of your choosing.

- I, Lucifer/Iblis, have never had any power over humanity. I'm a meme - a reflector of anything anyone wishes to project upon me, nothing else.

"The primary characteristic of the Devil, besides hubris, is that he has no power other than the power to cast evil suggestions into the heart of men, women, and jinn" - [link to en.wikipedia.org]

- Part of my role as a light bearer, is to cast the light of rational thought into the "godly" mess of mysteries and misunderstandings. The light I'm bearing is the clear conscious mind, depicted in certain Tarot cards as the sun.

- I've also been given the beautiful name "morning star", which would refer to Venus. I do represent some aspects of sexuality - those often labeled as sin by different propagandist religions. More specifically, I'm the fleshy/lusty part of the equation, optimally working in balanced concert with the spiritual/divine side represented on archetype level by God and often called "divine love".

- If any of the above sounds as if things had gone "wrong" at some point, that's not the case at all. This has been a great experiment, designed and implemented to fulfill several purposes. Basically, it's all been about learning on many different levels at the same time. The simulation had to include the illusion of something being horribly wrong, evil forces ruling the world, and so on.

- Christian definition of hell is "being disconnected from God". However, you can never be disconnected from the one and only source of everything there "is". Therefore, this illusion has provided the best possible simulation of hell, making in possible for the participants to think they are primarily physical beings, disconnected from God, while in fact they are (of course) primarily spirit/light beings, communicating and interacting with the 3D world through the body/brain link, and therefore learning to think they "are" those bodies or "live inside their brains".

- In other words, the world as you and we know it has been a stage and a show, and if you read how the Quran describes jahannam or how the Bible describes hell, understanding what you are reading is a esoteric-propagandist text often both hiding the truth in plain sight or twisting it, you'll notice that what is said about hell/jahannam precisely describes the conditions here on Earth.

It has come time for the simulation to end. Anyone with open mind can see the signs of it already happening everywhere. Many are aware of this, which wouldn't be more obvious when you look around here on GLP. Few if any have an understanding of the really big picture. There are endless different ways to describe what all of this means, and it will be an interesting effort to start bringing the pieces of the puzzle together. That, as well as managing with all that's going to happen when the masses start learning about truths they are not too well prepared to face, is going to require completely new kind of co-operation between all those present here at the moment and aware of their role(s) and assignments.

For those interested to hear if Christ is around: yes, he's here too. Not as "Jesus" the person, but Christ the archetype/meme/energy, also represented by great many people. It's common for these individuals to temporarily make the mistake of thinking they are Jesus, but fortunately that will usually pass by itself after some practice.

So, that's all for starters.

Time for questions, please go ahead!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26356717


First off

In Claiming to be Lucifer

Which Lucifer.

There is the Beast, The Lucifer, Son of The Morning

Who was Cast Down...

And The Older Lucifer

The BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR


The Lucifer who is the son of the morning is not

A Morning Star.

Never Was

Further There Is only one Person With the Name LUCIFER

That does not include the Numbers of the beasts Names.

And you aren't him
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Well then you ain't the Lucifer I know.
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I understand. it's no wonder, there are many definitions of who or what Lucifer is.
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what is the deal with pi? do the decimal places ever end?

thx rockon
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You are the veil to hide the truth of the intention.
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Here I disagree - it's all the religious mysteries around different versions of God that mainly function as the veil, among with other religions such as reductionist "science".

I represent the all-revealing light of clear, ego-free mind/thought/perception.

Your message holds nothing more than vengence, horrors of the past are but dust in the wind.
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Beautifully said, although I'm not quite sure I get the point of the latter part of the sentence.

Neither me nor message hold no vengeance, hatred, ill will or anything alike. I/we am/are completely neutral. The fact people often perceive us otherwise, namely "nasty", is because Lucifer's message is not wrapped in the nice, soft, comfortable layer of flower talk typical to the way the so-called "light" (which is in fact darkness if your viewpoint is based on rational thought) has been representing itself in this world.

By the above I refer to, for example, the way different new age and esoteric movements talk of these same things as being something you should not try to understand, but rather just "let go" of something and then feel good about everything.

to consider anything but the whole is flawed.
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I agree.
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I AM 888
I AM HOD

H
14 10 64
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351242


Cryptic. Interesting.

WE ARE THE LIGHT

SEE THINGS IN A NEW LIGHT

SEE THE WORLD IN A NEW LIGHT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351242


Exactly!
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I like this thread and shall be keepin an eye on it.
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How does it feel to be spanked by the Mother of God in front of all your chosen ones.
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what is the deal with pi? do the decimal places ever end?

thx rockon
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How about you shine some damn light on my question!

c'mon Lucifer. i guess i overestimated you.

jerkit
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You ASSHOLE... I thought you were giving us the knowledge of good and evil!!!!!

But all you gave us was religion and justin beiber....

You mother fucker.
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I AM 888
I AM HOD

WE ARE THE LIGHT

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SEE THINGS IN A NEW LIGHT

SEE THE WORLD IN A NEW LIGHT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351242


explain more please?

888/711
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thanks lucifer for the post very informative.
 Quoting: MR ANDERSON 14795785


No problem, happy to be of assistance!

can you tell us more about this hologram/simulation/machine we are living in?
 Quoting: MR ANDERSON 14795785


Sure! If you wish to ask a more specific question later on please go ahead, I'll start off with the basics.

All this has been said many times by many before me, but I must say I don't know of anyone who puts it all together quite this bluntly and plainly. I admire Anthony DeMello for his excellent work on this front - he was quite blunt indeed. However, even he didn't quite manage to explain the nature of this 3D matrix system. In theory he could have done that easily, but perhaps he either didn't get to know quantum physics, or didn't understand how easy it is to "make sense to this all" by combining it's implications with esoteric and other information.

So, here's the whole thing the best I can wrap it up:

- According to the reductionist paradigm of old school science, physical matter comes first, and consciousness (of anything) is the result of bio-electric functions of the brain. In other words, you have to "born first in order to have a consciousness".

- Quantum physics, which has been for decades been accepted as a more "correct" way to explain the reality than the old reductionist view, clearly states that *before* any kind of material particle can exist, there must be a consciousness there to make that happen by "manifesting" (as the new agers would say) it out of a quantum goo of "endless possibilities but nothing concrete". In other words, your consciousness is not the result of your physical body, but your physical body is the result of your consciousness.

- In yet another words, you (and everyone else) are a priori a being of consciousness or "spirit" (some would say "light"), just experiencing this weird little 3D simulation of ours and interacting with it through the brain/body link. The "real you" doesn't exist inside your brain, it exists as a field of energy *around* your brain and your whole body.

- This "real you" I'm referring to is the consciousness you have when you enter this simulation. You may even be able to remember the state in which you did not yet have any word for anything, and had therefore not yet even begun building the illusionary "you" referred to as the ego. All you had was your consciousness, awareness, trapped in this strange and very limiting world - and your body.

- As time goes by, your rational mind slowly starts to wake up. You learn words and things and start to think of yourself through different definitions. Your deeper self/awareness/consciousness soon gets buried under all the words and stuff, that you kind of forget it's even there. That's "forgetting who you are".

- The further the process goes, the deeper you sink into the illusion of "you" as only your rational/ego mind. That's a significant partner of the real you while you're here, but as you can clearly see for yourself, the "you" you thought existed is in fact *nothing* else but words and definitions.

- One of the reasons why the game seems so real is, that the 3D is a result of a collective effort. You, neither the real you or the ego you, are obviously not creating the Matrix alone. It's not even "just" the collective consciousness of humanity, but Gaia itself (who, of course, is also primarily a consciousness) maintaining a relatively coherent and therefore believable illusion of a material world.

- It's interesting to think that the above principle applies to the whole of the "concrete" (3D) universe. Then again, after letting the idea sink in, it explains quite a lot of the otherwise seemingly mysterious aspects of how the universe appears to function, how it was created etc.

- You are temporarily freed of the simulation each time you sleep and experience REM dreams. This is necessary to provide your consciousness/soul a chance to rest a little before sinking back into the game. For as long as your perception of "me" is trapped inside the illusory ego, experiencing the 3D can be extremely difficult at times - most of the time, for most of us.

- Certain (many) psychedelics also grant you a moment of freedom, or at least a much more clear perception of who and what you are. There are risks to this approach, but if you know what you're doing, prepare properly and most importantly ask advice of someone who already knows this art well, then having an LSD or psilocybin trip, or even just getting high enough with good pot and meditating with couple of spiritually oriented friends is definitely worth a try, if you feel it's the right thing for you.

- As a result of the "frequency shifts" currently taking place, more and more people are now experiencing states of mind closely resembling those catalyzed by psychedelics. I therefore emphasize the importance of caution when using strong psychedelics while these changes are taking place - the effects can be unexpectedly strong or otherwise unusually weird. There's a lot going on in the front of "aliens" and all sorts of non-physical being of pure consciousness becoming visible to more and more people.

- The Matrix will remain after 21-12 but the nature of it will be significantly different. It will not be nearly as limiting as it is now; it will start resembling more like a mild psychedelic trip or a dream. In both states, what you experience (or how you experience it) is dictated by the state of your mind - if you're afraid, things may turn nightmarish, but if you can keep yourself together and neutral/positive no matter what happens, you'll have the chance to experience whatever you wish. It's not nearly as simple as this of course, but basically that's how the updated version of the software works.

- When you "die", it's the ego part that ends it's existence. The real you / consciousness carries on according to whatever wishes, plans and agreements it has.

- Being "enlightened" is to shift the perception of "me" from ego to consciousness/soul, which kind of implies also understanding the nature of the "reality" as a result.

I hope this sheds some light to the area you wanted to hear my comments about. If you have any further questions, I'll be happy to answer those too.

ive forgotten what the real world s like as ive been trapped in the stage world my whole life and very much look forward to the veil being lifted...
 Quoting: MR ANDERSON 14795785


There are so many meanings to "the real world" it's difficult to comment this in any way, other than that I do understand what you mean. The real world as it has been known is, in a way, real - even though what that means is just about to change significantly. Then again what you refer to as real world could also be a place you've experienced in some other star system, possibly very far away from here.

If you wish to define what you mean by real world, I might be able to provide more useful thoughts regarding this issue.
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I like this thread and shall be keepin an eye on it.
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Nice to hear that, thanks! =)
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How does it feel to be spanked by the Mother of God in front of all your chosen ones.
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Hasn't happened yet so I can't provide and answer to this question at this point of time. Perhaps later on, we'll see!
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what is the deal with pi? do the decimal places ever end?

thx rockon
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How about you shine some damn light on my question!

c'mon Lucifer. i guess i overestimated you.

jerkit
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I'm so sorry, lots of typing to do as you can see. ;)

I'm also sorry to have to disappoint you by not being able to provide an answer to this question, at least not right now. I'll ask another aspect of me who is specialized on the field of mathematics way more deeply than this "I" you're talking with.

If I fail to get back to this within a day, please kick me on the butt!

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