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California police frowning on self-defense, want gun owners to simply comply with robbers

 
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In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

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 Quoting: Laura Bow


Better to call the police and take a chance on being mistaken for a suspect and shot, or killed in the crossfire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


what are you talking about. here in cali, if you call police, there is a greater chance of getting shot or tazed.

protect yourself.
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HELL NO.

She did the right thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15242038


So, let us start by making LEO turn in their guns after every shift end. Let us see how they squak...Yeah, it just wouldn't happen would it!
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In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

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 Quoting: Laura Bow


Yeah, he doesn't want the criminals to be killed,
or to have future criminals scared straight.

Self-preservation drivel.
Without criminals, he is out of a job.
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In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

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 Quoting: Laura Bow


Better to call the police and take a chance on being mistaken for a suspect and shot, or killed in the crossfire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


what are you talking about. here in cali, if you call police, there is a greater chance of getting shot or tazed.

protect yourself.
 Quoting: Alufiend 28365032


Of course. But the cops don't want you to think that way.
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when burglars, rapists and murderers are kicking in your back door, DONT SHOOT BACK SHOOT FIRST!!!!!!!!!
scream rocket
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11/30/2012 08:17 PM
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Yeah, right, hand 'em over your "material things" and just hope they don't mind leaving witnesses behind. I think not.
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11/30/2012 08:58 PM
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Yeah, right, hand 'em over your "material things" and just hope they don't mind leaving witnesses behind. I think not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25903260


This. Why should a person assume that they will be all kind and benevolent after they get what they want? WTF.
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bump
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Bumping...
BRIEF
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pigs make me sick,

bootlickers just make me vomit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19202196


Wheres Brief to stick up for these cops?
 Quoting: *Evan*


Fuck you, I've had to defend myself using my pistol...on several occasions in fact.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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pigs make me sick,

bootlickers just make me vomit.
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Wheres Brief to stick up for these cops?
 Quoting: *Evan*


Fuck you, I've had to defend myself using my pistol...on several occasions in fact.
 Quoting: BRIEF


against chipminks?

5a
SLAM THAT CLAM
BRIEF
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pigs make me sick,

bootlickers just make me vomit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19202196


Wheres Brief to stick up for these cops?
 Quoting: *Evan*


Fuck you, I've had to defend myself using my pistol...on several occasions in fact.
 Quoting: BRIEF


against chipminks?

5a
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


No, one was two guys that tried to run me off the road and then followed me, wanting me to lead them to my home, so I had to confront them on the side of the road where they told me they had a gun...

Another, well several, were people threatening me in my office...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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If a couple of thugs break into your place of business and point a gun in your face, then you would be perfectly justified in opening fire on them, right? Well, maybe not. San Jose police are giving one gun owner a stern tsk-tsk after she defended her property from a pair of armed thieves.

According to ABC Local 7 News, a pair of thieves wearing masks and hooded sweatshirts burst into a San Jose jewelry store at 10:15 a.m. on Monday. At least one of the would-be thieves was armed.

The thieves probably thought that they were going to make off with a bag full of bling, but instead they nearly caught a bullet. The store owner, who was reportedly a woman, drew a pistol and leveled it at the two would-be thieves. She fired at least one shot but did not strike either of them – it is unclear whether that was a warning shot or if she simply missed.

...

In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

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 Quoting: Laura Bow



Maybe the shop owner was insured, maybe not. The thieves might have been stealing her life, all that she had worked for for years. that's worth defending.
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If a couple of thugs break into your place of business and point a gun in your face, then you would be perfectly justified in opening fire on them, right? Well, maybe not. San Jose police are giving one gun owner a stern tsk-tsk after she defended her property from a pair of armed thieves.

According to ABC Local 7 News, a pair of thieves wearing masks and hooded sweatshirts burst into a San Jose jewelry store at 10:15 a.m. on Monday. At least one of the would-be thieves was armed.

The thieves probably thought that they were going to make off with a bag full of bling, but instead they nearly caught a bullet. The store owner, who was reportedly a woman, drew a pistol and leveled it at the two would-be thieves. She fired at least one shot but did not strike either of them – it is unclear whether that was a warning shot or if she simply missed.

...

In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

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 Quoting: Laura Bow



Maybe the shop owner was insured, maybe not. The thieves might have been stealing her life, all that she had worked for for years. that's worth defending.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28786416


That's it. They are saying that things will all go smoothly and "nobody will get hurt" if they complied..but what if that woman didn't have a gun and they decided after they got the jewelry to rape her or worse?! So stupid to assume they wouldn't do anything.
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Thats all fine but how is a gun owner to know if we're dealing with a "harmless" robber or a thrill killa?.....maybe CA should regulate robbers with a registration, training, and licensing program.....any robber killing during a robbery will have their license pulled....yeah....
BRIEF
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If a couple of thugs break into your place of business and point a gun in your face, then you would be perfectly justified in opening fire on them, right? Well, maybe not. San Jose police are giving one gun owner a stern tsk-tsk after she defended her property from a pair of armed thieves.

According to ABC Local 7 News, a pair of thieves wearing masks and hooded sweatshirts burst into a San Jose jewelry store at 10:15 a.m. on Monday. At least one of the would-be thieves was armed.

The thieves probably thought that they were going to make off with a bag full of bling, but instead they nearly caught a bullet. The store owner, who was reportedly a woman, drew a pistol and leveled it at the two would-be thieves. She fired at least one shot but did not strike either of them – it is unclear whether that was a warning shot or if she simply missed.

...

In the meantime, the police are giving gun owners a piece of their mind. Albert Morales, the San Jose Police spokesman, said, "We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."

More at [link to www.guns.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow



Maybe the shop owner was insured, maybe not. The thieves might have been stealing her life, all that she had worked for for years. that's worth defending.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28786416


My insurance deductible is $1000 on theft, so telling someone to just get robbed because insurance will cover it is stupid...fuck the thieves, anyone pointing a weapon at me may not make it out alive...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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I would have given the Po Po a piece of my mind right back.
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the 3 S's

shoot
shovel
shut up

who gonna report some nasty hood rats missing? thier momma? lol
SLAM THAT CLAM
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Fk them. try coming in my house they ll get it right n the fking face. fk u nwo.
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How many fucking times have people complied with armed thugs, given them everything they wanted, and are still shot and killed after the fact. What a bunch of bull shit. I really need to get the fuck out of this state.
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Thats all fine but how is a gun owner to know if we're dealing with a "harmless" robber or a thrill killa?.....maybe CA should regulate robbers with a registration, training, and licensing program.....any robber killing during a robbery will have their license pulled....yeah....
 Quoting: dookie stain 1404507


i think the thieves guild already exists.
it's call the police.
but their licenses don't get pulled from accidental/intentional deaths.
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it's almost like they want people to lose their shit....

fuck that i say blast their asses...
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Since no one knows what an armed person breaking into their house wants, i.e. money, sex, to murder someone at random, it is advisable to shoot first and ask them questions later.

IMHO
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We dont dial 911 we call 1911;)
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"We don't recommend (drawing a gun or firing). We would have preferred that they just go ahead and comply with the request or demands of the robbers. Again they were after material items that could be replaced and again our biggest fear is that somebody would have gotten hurt, injured and possibly even died."
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Google Translation: Only WE (The Feds, State Police & Local police officers) and armed (Fed, State, Local government officials) only have the right to fire our weapons to save our lives in our homes, streets and inside any company/business that we might own on the side. And if the thug only has a small sligshot, only WE have the right to fire our weapons to protect ourselfs and our familys in order to stay alive on this earth for many more years to come!

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Looking at our leaders, we clearly live in a lawless country. Citizens in such a country need to be able to defend themselves. Period, end of story.....
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Of course they do. Evil is big business and by protecting them, jailing them, and releasing them, it guarantees law enforcement growth, pensions, and jobs as lawyers, prisons, etc...

If you just kill them, your taking a potential of hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the real evils mouth which is the JUSTICE SYSTEM.
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Of course they do. Evil is big business and by protecting them, jailing them, and releasing them, it guarantees law enforcement growth, pensions, and jobs as lawyers, prisons, etc...

If you just kill them, your taking a potential of hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the real evils mouth which is the JUSTICE SYSTEM.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28922353


THEY ARE BREEDING AND PROTECTING EVIL FOR PROFIT. THE GOVERNMENT CARES LESS FOR YOUR SAFETY. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND JOBS. YOU ARE RULED BY SATAN HIMSELF.
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Of course they do. Evil is big business and by protecting them, jailing them, and releasing them, it guarantees law enforcement growth, pensions, and jobs as lawyers, prisons, etc...

If you just kill them, your taking a potential of hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the real evils mouth which is the JUSTICE SYSTEM.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28922353


THEY ARE BREEDING AND PROTECTING EVIL FOR PROFIT. THE GOVERNMENT CARES LESS FOR YOUR SAFETY. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND JOBS. YOU ARE RULED BY SATAN HIMSELF.
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The sheeples brains are as dense as lead.
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Of course they do. Evil is big business and by protecting them, jailing them, and releasing them, it guarantees law enforcement growth, pensions, and jobs as lawyers, prisons, etc...

If you just kill them, your taking a potential of hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the real evils mouth which is the JUSTICE SYSTEM.

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THEY ARE BREEDING AND PROTECTING EVIL FOR PROFIT. THE GOVERNMENT CARES LESS FOR YOUR SAFETY. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND JOBS. YOU ARE RULED BY SATAN HIMSELF.
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The sheeples brains are as dense as lead.
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Sure, there are duddly do rights in the low ranks of the justice system who want to do good, but in the high ranks, its just a money and job game to them that they will play till the death of this country by the spread of immoral, unethical, and downright evil behavior that they propagate to its fullest potential.

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