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Bethesda, MD - November 30, 2012 -- Using genetic analyses, scientists have discovered that Northern European populations - including British, Scandinavians, French, and some Eastern Europeans - descend from a mixture of two very different ancestral populations, and one of these populations is related to Native Americans.

This discovery helps fill gaps in scientific understanding of both Native American and Northern European ancestry, while providing an explanation for some genetic similarities among what would otherwise seem to be very divergent groups. This research was published in the November 2012 issue of the Genetics Society of America's journal GENETICS.

According to Nick Patterson, first author of the report, "There is a genetic link between the paleolithic population of Europe and modern Native Americans. The evidence is that the population that crossed the Bering Strait from Siberia into the Americas more than 15,000 years ago was likely related to the ancient population of Europe." [link to www.sciencecodex.com]
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Bethesda, MD - November 30, 2012 -- Using genetic analyses, scientists have discovered that Northern European populations - including British, Scandinavians, French, and some Eastern Europeans - descend from a mixture of two very different ancestral populations, and one of these populations is related to Native Americans.

This discovery helps fill gaps in scientific understanding of both Native American and Northern European ancestry, while providing an explanation for some genetic similarities among what would otherwise seem to be very divergent groups. This research was published in the November 2012 issue of the Genetics Society of America's journal GENETICS.

According to Nick Patterson, first author of the report, "There is a genetic link between the paleolithic population of Europe and modern Native Americans. The evidence is that the population that crossed the Bering Strait from Siberia into the Americas more than 15,000 years ago was likely related to the ancient population of Europe." [link to www.sciencecodex.com]
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This article is bullshit. It is meant to make people think that Asians are related to Europeans. Anyone with half a brian knows that the reason why Native Americans share ancestry with Europeans is because the Norsemen landed in America around the year 1000. That means that Native Americans who had sex with the Norsemen ended up with mixed offspring. That is the primary reason why North American "Indians" are so much larger and taller than their Latin American counterparts.
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This explains why I'm 1/16 native american and 15/16 scandanavian lol Warrior/Viking mix. i like it
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and some our ancesters went to europe who do you think the green knight was? He was Mi'kmaq!.................sheep
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and some our ancesters went to europe who do you think the green knight was? He was Mi'kmaq!.................sheep
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Asian tribes did overrun some European countries. I know for a fact that Germans carry Asian blood from the Mongol invasions. That is what gives some Germans their characterist straight black hair and dark colored eyes.
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Crap either designed to or unintentionally distracting attention away from the ancient European presence in the Americas.

I haven't read the paper so this may be addressed in it, but not all natives are of the same genetics. Some must have traces of Euro blood from the millenia ago when the Celts, Phoenicians etc were present and undoubtedly interbred on occasion.
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Crap either designed to or unintentionally distracting attention away from the ancient European presence in the Americas.

I haven't read the paper so this may be addressed in it, but not all natives are of the same genetics. Some must have traces of Euro blood from the millenia ago when the Celts, Phoenicians etc were present and undoubtedly interbred on occasion.
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No, it is not addressed in the article. Just more liberal bullshit to try to make people think that we are all just on big happy race. They conveniently overlooked the Scandinavian invasion of North America in the year 1000 which would explain exactly why natives carry European ancestry.
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This explains why I'm 1/16 native american and 15/16 scandanavian lol Warrior/Viking mix. i like it
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Ill bet you a billion freaking dollars that you're not part native, even though you may think you are.

Every damn hippie and tree hugger in the 70s desperately wanted to have that sacred indian juju, so much so that many just straight up invented indian ancestry. Ward Churchill a prime example.

Mixed breeding with indians was not ANYWHERE near as prevalent as current "wisdom" would have you believe. Ill bet you cant prove that 1/16th.
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This explains why I'm 1/16 native american and 15/16 scandanavian lol Warrior/Viking mix. i like it
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Ill bet you a billion freaking dollars that you're not part native, even though you may think you are.

Every damn hippie and tree hugger in the 70s desperately wanted to have that sacred indian juju, so much so that many just straight up invented indian ancestry. Ward Churchill a prime example.

Mixed breeding with indians was not ANYWHERE near as prevalent as current "wisdom" would have you believe. Ill bet you cant prove that 1/16th.
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I have a tribal card bro. I recieved indian scholarships in college. i'm willing to bet you are a moron lol
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and some our ancesters went to europe who do you think the green knight was? He was Mi'kmaq!.................sheep
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I have to google this! My grandma was mikmaq!
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This explains why I'm 1/16 native american and 15/16 scandanavian lol Warrior/Viking mix. i like it
 Quoting: L | b e R T a R | a N ???


Ill bet you a billion freaking dollars that you're not part native, even though you may think you are.

Every damn hippie and tree hugger in the 70s desperately wanted to have that sacred indian juju, so much so that many just straight up invented indian ancestry. Ward Churchill a prime example.

Mixed breeding with indians was not ANYWHERE near as prevalent as current "wisdom" would have you believe. Ill bet you cant prove that 1/16th.
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I have a tribal card bro. I recieved indian scholarships in college. i'm willing to bet you are a moron lol
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What Nation?Mitakuye Oyasin,dude.afro
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It's supposed to make us feel good about multiculturalism. We're all the same and we have so much in common. The real reason Europeans and native Americans share DNA is because the Europeans were here over a thousand years ago. There was a lot of interbreeding going on. So, a lot of native Americans were born from European fathers. Add to that the fact that Europeans came over here when they were still living in caves, and it's easy to explain the similarities.
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This explains why I'm 1/16 native american and 15/16 scandanavian lol Warrior/Viking mix. i like it
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Ill bet you a billion freaking dollars that you're not part native, even though you may think you are.

Every damn hippie and tree hugger in the 70s desperately wanted to have that sacred indian juju, so much so that many just straight up invented indian ancestry. Ward Churchill a prime example.

Mixed breeding with indians was not ANYWHERE near as prevalent as current "wisdom" would have you believe. Ill bet you cant prove that 1/16th.
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I have a tribal card bro. I recieved indian scholarships in college. i'm willing to bet you are a moron lol
 Quoting: L | b e R T a R | a N ???


I am 1/4 Seminole, and my sister tried getting indian scholarships and they told her to run the fuck along. I never tried myself, because I prefer to pay my own way. This way about 25 years ago, but they said having a full blood grandmother doesn't get you shit.
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Crap either designed to or unintentionally distracting attention away from the ancient European presence in the Americas.

I haven't read the paper so this may be addressed in it, but not all natives are of the same genetics. Some must have traces of Euro blood from the millenia ago when the Celts, Phoenicians etc were present and undoubtedly interbred on occasion.
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No, it is not addressed in the article. Just more liberal bullshit to try to make people think that we are all just on big happy race. They conveniently overlooked the Scandinavian invasion of North America in the year 1000 which would explain exactly why natives carry European ancestry.
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So let me get this straight. Native Americans are the only group of people in the entire world who are native to one land and one continent who did zero traveling to other lands but were invaded and overrun by everyone else right?
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I am 1/4 Seminole, and my sister tried getting indian scholarships and they told her to run the fuck along. I never tried myself, because I prefer to pay my own way. This way about 25 years ago, but they said having a full blood grandmother doesn't get you shit.


I hear you,I really want to know what nation issues a tribal card to someone who is 1/16th, unless it's one those sketchy Cherokee "tribes" where you can buy your tribal card on line.
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Caucasians from caucasus in America? Not impossible, but no matter how history went, there is no reason at all to believe the Indians murdered anywhere near 30 MILLION Caucasians. 30 million or more North American Indians were murdered by the european caucasians, and for that reason some caucasians will never cease to find ways of justifying their misdeeds.
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Caucasians from caucasus in America? Not impossible, but no matter how history went, there is no reason at all to believe the Indians murdered anywhere near 30 MILLION Caucasians. 30 million or more North American Indians were murdered by the european caucasians, and for that reason some caucasians will never cease to find ways of justifying their misdeeds.
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Wtf did you come up with 30 million?
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Potowatomi bro.
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Sandinavians are supposed to have invaded North America more than a thousand years ago. Some people think they were the "mound builders," others place the hypothetical invasions more recently, around 600-800 AD. Historical eurocentric bias denies this possibility, but it has a lot more support than the idea that Europeans migrated through Siberia some 20-30,000 years ago. Look up the Heavener Runestone and related articles for more info.
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Solutreans were in North America 5000 before the Indians arrived. Solutreans came from Europe likely just after or near the end of the last Ice Age. What we call native North Americans today wiped them out and probably absorbed many by race mixing.

If there is indeed White European blood in the Indian population that is how it got there.
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Caucasians from caucasus in America? Not impossible, but no matter how history went, there is no reason at all to believe the Indians murdered anywhere near 30 MILLION Caucasians. 30 million or more North American Indians were murdered by the european caucasians, and for that reason some caucasians will never cease to find ways of justifying their misdeeds.
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Wtf did you come up with 30 million?
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Youre right, the actual numbers are far higher, but as most Indians didn't have addresses... But despair not, for the number of European caucasian murder victims - murdered by European Caucasians - are much greater. Murdering is a part of our great culture.
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They have found mummies in Mongolia that have red hair. Being nomadic back in those days was all the rage.
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Potowatomi bro.
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They have found mummies in Mongolia that have red hair. Being nomadic back in those days was all the rage.
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Don't want to be too tough on you, but they've actually found white blond haired people living in Mongolia. I don't think it proves we are angels though.
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Re: Native Americans and Northern Europeans more closely related than previously thought
This article is bullshit. It is meant to make people think that Asians are related to Europeans. Anyone with half a brian knows that the reason why Native Americans share ancestry with Europeans is because the Norsemen landed in America around the year 1000. That means that Native Americans who had sex with the Norsemen ended up with mixed offspring. That is the primary reason why North American "Indians" are so much larger and taller than their Latin American counterparts.
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No the Solutrean Clovis Point people came from Europe during the Ice Age. Some survived the Carolina Bays disaster that sank Atlantis and killed off the mega fauna. They mated with the Ainu like migrants from Asia. Square jawed native Americans look nothing like Asians
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Solutreans were in North America 5000 before the Indians arrived. Solutreans came from Europe likely just after or near the end of the last Ice Age. What we call native North Americans today wiped them out and probably absorbed many by race mixing.

If there is indeed White European blood in the Indian population that is how it got there.
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Agree

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I thought it all started with one women grinning
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U thought right
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No tribe gives a card for some jacka** claiming to be 1/16 even if you can prove it. THey certainly give you scholarships for it. If some idiot got a scholarship claiming 1/16th native American then there is major fraud with that system. It is unethical.
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It's supposed to make us feel good about multiculturalism. We're all the same and we have so much in common. The real reason Europeans and native Americans share DNA is because the Europeans were here over a thousand years ago. There was a lot of interbreeding going on. So, a lot of native Americans were born from European fathers. Add to that the fact that Europeans came over here when they were still living in caves, and it's easy to explain the similarities.
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It's not supposed to make you feel anything, it's called scientific inquiry.

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No tribe gives a card for some jacka** claiming to be 1/16 even if you can prove it. THey certainly give you scholarships for it. If some idiot got a scholarship claiming 1/16th native American then there is major fraud with that system. It is unethical.
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Racist.