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We don't exist, only God exists.

 
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We don't exist, only God exists.
People say - "There is no God" and they only believe in chemistry and physics.

Chemistry and physics are merely an illusion of consciousness. How ironic it is that it is we who don't exist - we who unknowingly strive to be - like poor Pinochio's eternal quest to become a boy. God is all that exists.

Max Planck said:

As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.

We have no right to assume that any physical laws exist, or if they have existed up to now, that they will continue to exist in a similar manner in the future.

Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.

Both Religion and science require a belief in God. For believers, God is in the beginning, and for physicists He is at the end of all considerations… To the former He is the foundation, to the latter, the crown of the edifice of every generalized world view.

Under these conditions it is no wonder, that the movement of atheists, which declares religion to be just a deliberate illusion, invented by power-seeking priests, and which has for the pious belief in a higher Power nothing but words of mockery, eagerly makes use of progressive scientific knowledge and in a presumed unity with it, expands in an ever faster pace its disintegrating action on all nations of the earth and on all social levels. I do not need to explain in any more detail that after its victory not only all the most precious treasures of our culture would vanish, but — which is even worse — also any prospects at a better future.
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A belief in God is one thing, but you take it too far by arrogantly assuming to know the nature of God.

You believe there is a God. Leave it at that and be satisfied.
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A belief in God is one thing, but you take it too far by arrogantly assuming to know the nature of God.

You believe there is a God. Leave it at that and be satisfied.
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Why do you presume I am arrogant? You believe me to be equivalent to you. I do know several natures of God. Perhaps by the time I die I shall know more of God - and more of myself. You should stop presuming that you have limitations - or at least, stop presuming that others are as limited as yourself.
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Re: We don't exist, only God exists.
A belief in God is one thing, but you take it too far by arrogantly assuming to know the nature of God.

You believe there is a God. Leave it at that and be satisfied.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


Why do you presume I am arrogant? You believe me to be equivalent to you. I do know several natures of God. Perhaps by the time I die I shall know more of God - and more of myself. You should stop presuming that you have limitations - or at least, stop presuming that others are as limited as yourself.
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I am making a statement to know one in particular.

After all, I don't who or what you are.
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11/30/2012 08:37 PM
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If your god exists he created Atheism because he`s fucking tired of the fairytale bullshit.

Religion is illogical. A supereme being would spot that in a heartbeat.
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11/30/2012 08:40 PM
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For scientists to reason their way to what most believers traditionally come by through faith may be useful to have to show to fence-sitters or unbelievers who may be saved. I think it's harsh to call such thinking arrogant. For folks in hard science this is about as humble as it gets. And it does fulfill a need for a means to help bring others into the fold.
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Re: We don't exist, only God exists.
A belief in God is one thing, but you take it too far by arrogantly assuming to know the nature of God.

You believe there is a God. Leave it at that and be satisfied.
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Keep your head in the hole while the few of us grow in understanding and KNOWLEDGE OF THE SELF.
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Re: We don't exist, only God exists.
A belief in God is one thing, but you take it too far by arrogantly assuming to know the nature of God.

You believe there is a God. Leave it at that and be satisfied.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


You cannot be "arrogant" if there is no "you". Only the creator, and a mind filled with lies during its manifestation upon the Earth.
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Re: We don't exist, only God exists.
If your god exists he created Atheism because he`s fucking tired of the fairytale bullshit.

Religion is illogical. A supereme being would spot that in a heartbeat.
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My God created consciousness. That consciousness multiplied and divided into many consciousnesses in the same manner that cells divide. An individual consciousness is free to believe whatever it wants to believe. The only requirement is that it must question. I sense you are frustrated and disillusioned because in your questioning, you fail to have independent confirmation of your questions. That is your burden to bear if you so choose.

As to religion, it is a farce and truly illogical as you say.
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God dont exist,god is excuse for "bad people" to scare idiots to obey them.Its just that simple.
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Yeah let's hope god is just having one bad nightmare.
"I stand before the Sun, rise up and see the shape of things to come. It's all the same, it's all the same, it's all the same..."
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Bring Us all Peace, Love and Long Life.

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We exist, problem is nothing else does.
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if you don't exist it doesn't say much for your opinion
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11/30/2012 11:56 PM
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OP looking at the question of conciousness from an evolutionary perspective as opposed to a physics question will get you closer to the answer.

Starts at 14:48-60:00

Hope you watch man.
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]b]i know 2 things.

1. there is a God.

2. i'm not him.
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]b]i know 2 things.

1. there is a God.

2. i'm not him.
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You stole that from Rudy.
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Re: We don't exist, only God exists.
We exist, problem is nothing else does.
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Danwa, you around here anymore?

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