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Where Does America Get Oil? You May Be Surprised

 
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Where Does America Get Oil? You May Be Surprised
America is one of the world's largest oil producers, and close to 40 percent of U.S. oil needs are met at home. Most of the imports currently come from five countries: Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela and Nigeria.

. . . Since the Arab oil embargoes of the 1960s and 70s, it's been conventional wisdom to talk about American dependence on oil from the Persian Gulf. But the global oil market has changed dramatically since then.

Today, the U.S. actually gets most of its imported oil from Canada and Latin America.

And many Americans might be surprised to learn that the U.S. now imports roughly the same amount of oil from Africa as it does from the Persian Gulf. African imports were a bit higher in 2010, while Persian Gulf oil accounted for a bit more last year.

. . .Analysts also point out that the U.S. is producing more oil domestically while reducing its dependence on oil in general



[link to www.npr.org]
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only idiots don't know this, mostly the ones that think we wage war in the Middle East to profit ourselves.
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Almost none, from the Middle East.
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Yeah, that was my point.

We don't get much from the Middle East as people seem to think.

Also I saw in a thread a Canadian say that the U.S. doesn't have any oil. Have seen that before from others as well.

Well, we produce 40% of our own so we sure as heck do!

And we could much, much more.
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And we could much, much more.
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Prove that thesis.
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And we could much, much more.
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Prove that thesis.
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I don't have to prove anything. But here is an article with a very conservative estimate.

[link to www.consumerenergyreport.com]


And

Estimated U.S. oil shale reserves total an astonishing 1.5 trillion barrels of oil – or more than five times the
stated reserves of Saudi Arabia
. This energy bounty is simply too large to ignore any longer, assuming that the reserves are economically viable. And yet, oil shale lies far from the radar screen of most investors.

But we here at The Daily Reckoning are on the case. Just yesterday, I caught a first-hand glimpse of a cutting-edge oil shale project spearheaded by Shell. I trekked out to a barren moonscape in Colorado to tour the facility with Shell geologists. To summarize my findings, oil shale holds tremendous promise, but the technologies that promise to unlock this promise remain somewhat experimental. But sooner or later, the oil trapped in the shale of Colorado will flow to the surface. And


Read more: Oil Shale Reserves [link to dailyreckoning.com]
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The US has oil in Alaska that would put us over the top, but it's sanctioned under wildlife protection.
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Oil shale and or Tar sands are not consumable oil as we know it. They are a chemical precursor which requires additional processing after recovery before it can go to a traditional refinery. When all is said and done, you are lucky to get two units of energy for one unit spent in production. Where is that energy going to come from?

Canada is running headlong into this conundrum. Basically they are trading natural gas for what becomes of tar sands because there is a much greater market for black goop. This is not a long term energy strategy.

Then there is the actual process by which goop is distilled. It requires a whopping amount of water and leaves behind an ocean of toxic sludge.

There is no advantage to developing them.
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Oil shale and or Tar sands are not consumable oil as we know it. They are a chemical precursor which requires additional processing after recovery before it can go to a traditional refinery. When all is said and done, you are lucky to get two units of energy for one unit spent in production. Where is that energy going to come from?

Canada is running headlong into this conundrum. Basically they are trading natural gas for what becomes of tar sands because there is a much greater market for black goop. This is not a long term energy strategy.

Then there is the actual process by which goop is distilled. It requires a whopping amount of water and leaves behind an ocean of toxic sludge.

There is no advantage to developing them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26820407




The first link I posted above addresses this very thing.



Even so, we DO produce more of our own oil than we import from any one source and certainly more than we import from the Middle East as so many claim that's the only reason we are there.
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The US has oil in Alaska that would put us over the top, but it's sanctioned under wildlife protection.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483


Yes, this is the one that we don';t touch.


Studies of the ANWR coastal plain indicate it may contain between 6 and 16 billion barrels of recoverable oil (between 11.6 and 31.5 billion barrels in-place). With enhanced recovery technology, ANWR oil could provide an additional 30 to 50 years of reliable supply. Natural gas, produced with the oil, could be reinjected or added to a new gas pipeline originating in Prudhoe Bay.


[link to www.anwr.org]



It would be our second large reserve in Alaska.
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 Quoting: BRIEF


I really think Obama wants MORE wealth transferred to the Middle East for oil.

It's already the greatest transfer of wealth in the world in history.


He wants to redistributwe our oil buying money to his Muslim Brotherhood homies.
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Oh, good!



Thread: US to be World's Top Oil Producer in 5 years, new report says! DOOM OFF!
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11/30/2012 09:41 PM
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I get oil from my dirty, greasy hair and face.
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Bluebird, are you in the Illuminati? You got the one eye avatar....seems shady.
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Bluebird, are you in the Illuminati? You got the one eye avatar....seems shady.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28789740


We don't have Illuminati in Alabama, and some folks don't like you to see their whole faces on here. When I had a picture of myself, for instance, I wore sunglasses. I was in a frat in college, but it was mostly about beer and girls. We only plotted world domination on Tuesday nights.
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Bluebird, are you in the Illuminati? You got the one eye avatar....seems shady.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28789740


IlluminatiCard


Laughasian
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Roll Tide, BB.

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Roll Tide, BB.
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You know it!

Georgia then on to Miami!

Roll Tide, indeed.
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Oil shale and or Tar sands are not consumable oil as we know it. They are a chemical precursor which requires additional processing after recovery before it can go to a traditional refinery. When all is said and done, you are lucky to get two units of energy for one unit spent in production. Where is that energy going to come from?

Canada is running headlong into this conundrum. Basically they are trading natural gas for what becomes of tar sands because there is a much greater market for black goop. This is not a long term energy strategy.

Then there is the actual process by which goop is distilled. It requires a whopping amount of water and leaves behind an ocean of toxic sludge.

There is no advantage to developing them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26820407


They use natural gas released from the processing of the tar sands. If we didn't process the sands, we would not have access to the gas, so it's kind of a moot point.
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Bluebird, are you in the Illuminati? You got the one eye avatar....seems shady.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28789740


IlluminatiCard


Laughasian
 Quoting: Bluebird


I would not trust her she always baits and switches. She plugs in a piece of the puzzle, then latter if you get close disproves it! Total shill alert here! Dont trust her!
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i thought we squeezed it out of brown people while we stomped on em like grapes?

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