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HJTRAS
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I just need to put this in context, sorry if I over step the boundaries of redundancy. So lets look at this in perspective as to what it is. An old man handicapped veteran. His property was converged on by Homeland security, FBI, NYSP Swat. Included helicopter and assault vehicles, Automatic weapons and our town was sent into a scared frenzy. No news crew, they say nothing can't comment. No comment is the response. But I know the truth. Handicapped man sitting on a gas gold mine . Retired vet vulnerable easily influenced because no children only one brother no other family. They raided his home trashed it. Took all dvd's cd'd VHS and computer. Threatened him By saying he will lose all military retirement,jail time and a 10k fine. They also confiscated guns from hunters on his property by pointing automatic weapons at them and disarming . Scared the town silly like red dawn. This is the USA today, Will it happen to you, how will that feel you downloaded jumanji and shared it that's what they are saying for this siege on our community, It is because he pirated movies. That could be you. Wow that is just a horrible turn of constitutional Failure. The government will go after you if they have a motive. Look around your home could this be you ask you friends Your dad your mother your brother
today could be they day homeland security takes it all away. They have ultimate authority and if you have something they want they will take it.
RAS
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They have ultimate authority and if you have something they want they will take it.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


That's right.

Now all of you "cold dead hands" fans, see how easily your guns can be confiscated and you thrown in jail?

Now if an agent comes to your door and says "surrender all your firearms!" you say that you'll shoot them. Yeah right, good luck with that.

How about when they accuse you of child porn, or pirate DVD's, or some other stupid crime you obviously didn't commit? You'll think you are OK, wait for your lawyer, and then you go off to Dachau and they take your guns, your lands, and ultimately your life. And no one will ever know of it, while your neighbors will think you are a porn pirate.

Have fun with that firearm-based resistance. You folks need to figure out how things actually work, and deal with it from there.
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They have ultimate authority and if you have something they want they will take it.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


That's right.

Now all of you "cold dead hands" fans, see how easily your guns can be confiscated and you thrown in jail?

Now if an agent comes to your door and says "surrender all your firearms!" you say that you'll shoot them. Yeah right, good luck with that.

How about when they accuse you of child porn, or pirate DVD's, or some other stupid crime you obviously didn't commit? You'll think you are OK, wait for your lawyer, and then you go off to Dachau and they take your guns, your lands, and ultimately your life. And no one will ever know of it, while your neighbors will think you are a porn pirate.

Have fun with that firearm-based resistance. You folks need to figure out how things actually work, and deal with it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301

Dude you're so right we have no choose but to give it up we cant fight they are Strong I say that today we will be wiped out. We have no chance.
RAS
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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
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They have ultimate authority and if you have something they want they will take it.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


That's right.

Now all of you "cold dead hands" fans, see how easily your guns can be confiscated and you thrown in jail?

Now if an agent comes to your door and says "surrender all your firearms!" you say that you'll shoot them. Yeah right, good luck with that.

How about when they accuse you of child porn, or pirate DVD's, or some other stupid crime you obviously didn't commit? You'll think you are OK, wait for your lawyer, and then you go off to Dachau and they take your guns, your lands, and ultimately your life. And no one will ever know of it, while your neighbors will think you are a porn pirate.

Have fun with that firearm-based resistance. You folks need to figure out how things actually work, and deal with it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


no one gets that until you have the ak pointed in your face then what. WE ARE FUCKED
RAS
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no one gets that until you have the ak pointed in your face then what. WE ARE FUCKED


No US military or police departments use AK's. You are stupid.
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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
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ridiculous dude the government owns everything
RAS
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no one gets that until you have the ak pointed in your face then what. WE ARE FUCKED
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No US military or police departments use AK's. You are stupid.


must be stupid on a technicality as much as 95% of our country. dude your a idiot that IT was not an AK in your face SO WHAT stupid who THE FUCK CARES. WHAT AUTO WAS THEN EXPERT AND THE AGAIN WHO THE FUCK CARERS. iT WAS IN YOUR FACE.
RAS
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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


Good point, but not totally accurate. See, if the government wants to harass you, they will simply MAKE up a bogus charge.

While being law abiding will keep you off of the authorities radar, it doesn't guarantee anything. If they decide you have an awesome piece of land, or large amounts of gold, or a nice gun collection, and they want it, be prepared to be charged with something.
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no one gets that until you have the ak pointed in your face then what. WE ARE FUCKED
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7074288


No US military or police departments use AK's. You are stupid.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


must be stupid on a technicality as much as 95% of our country. dude your a idiot that IT was not an AK in your face SO WHAT stupid who THE FUCK CARES. WHAT AUTO WAS THEN EXPERT AND THE AGAIN WHO THE FUCK CARERS. iT WAS IN YOUR FACE.


Calm down there keyboard commander, no need to yell. I merely posted a fact.
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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


Good point, but not totally accurate. See, if the government wants to harass you, they will simply MAKE up a bogus charge.

While being law abiding will keep you off of the authorities radar, it doesn't guarantee anything. If they decide you have an awesome piece of land, or large amounts of gold, or a nice gun collection, and they want it, be prepared to be charged with something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27671626


TOTALLY ACCURATE
RAS
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Reach out tO him be his long lost son he never had. Inherit his land, become an OPEC partner. Thank me later. Ill take a mazerati
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Location OP.

Rough idea of your NYS location.
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A pissed off American veteran!
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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


Good point, but not totally accurate. See, if the government wants to harass you, they will simply MAKE up a bogus charge.

While being law abiding will keep you off of the authorities radar, it doesn't guarantee anything. If they decide you have an awesome piece of land, or large amounts of gold, or a nice gun collection, and they want it, be prepared to be charged with something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27671626

SO TRUE HOW DO WE MAKE THAT POINT
RAS
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Location OP.

Rough idea of your NYS location.
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BREESPORT NEW YORK
RAS
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Names and details, please.
Otherwise this cannot be confirmed.
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pick up your weapons and fight back
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Names and details, please.
Otherwise this cannot be confirmed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28811467


HAHA LIKE I WOULD GIVE IT TO YOU
RAS
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the number one rule is NEVER go on the internet. The internet is just here to see what you are thinking.

Even the anti-spam captcha tests, are not about spam, they are actually rohrshack intelligence tests. They want to know how smart you are, and thus how dangerous you might be.
You may have noticed Yahoo just constantly gives you the captcha tests now, all the time, no matter what you enter.

They are trying to see how smart you are, if you are too smart, they will be watching you.

If you ever took the IQ tests in high school, it was just a bunch of consecutive boxes, and you figure out the pattern. The captcha tests are the same thing, IQ tests.
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Names and details, please.
Otherwise this cannot be confirmed.
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Tea like names and details will be offered to you (coward)
RAS
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see how easy it is for the goverment to take your guns?

no reports of any resistance whatsoever.
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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


Good point, but not totally accurate. See, if the government wants to harass you, they will simply MAKE up a bogus charge.

While being law abiding will keep you off of the authorities radar, it doesn't guarantee anything. If they decide you have an awesome piece of land, or large amounts of gold, or a nice gun collection, and they want it, be prepared to be charged with something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27671626


TOTALLY ACCURATE
 Quoting: HJTRAS


This is indeed the reality we live in.
Sounds like something straight out of sci-fi if you write it all out and start piecing it together.
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it wasn't this guy, was it?
[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Names and details, please.
Otherwise this cannot be confirmed.
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HAHA LIKE I WOULD GIVE IT TO YOU
 Quoting: HJTRAS


If this story is true, and not urban legend,
and this guy has been abducted by the feds,
don't you think it would be nice to let the
whole world know who he is?

The federal cockroaches are the ones who love
secrecy.
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They have ultimate authority and if you have something they want they will take it.
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That's right.

Now all of you "cold dead hands" fans, see how easily your guns can be confiscated and you thrown in jail?

Now if an agent comes to your door and says "surrender all your firearms!" you say that you'll shoot them. Yeah right, good luck with that.

How about when they accuse you of child porn, or pirate DVD's, or some other stupid crime you obviously didn't commit? You'll think you are OK, wait for your lawyer, and then you go off to Dachau and they take your guns, your lands, and ultimately your life. And no one will ever know of it, while your neighbors will think you are a porn pirate.

Have fun with that firearm-based resistance. You folks need to figure out how things actually work, and deal with it from there.
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so you are saying we should all give up our guns?
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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


The problem with # 1 is that there are so many laws in the USA now that they are almost impossible to calculate. With so many laws on the books now, just about everyone breaks laws they didn't know existed. If they can't get you one way, they'll find another.
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I Call shennanigans.

OP please provide some additional evidence besides your heresay. Or did I miss something?






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We have no chance.
 Quoting: HJTRAS


Maybe we do have a chance, but guns are not what will make that difference.

What will make a difference?

Number ONE thing is to avoid crime. All crime. Every sort of crime. Don't give anyone the slightest excuse to bust you for the least thing. Don't whine about injustice if you thumb your nose at the law.

Number TWO is to stay connected to your community. That can work as a team defense, or it can give you an escape route. I don't mean an alternative community, but a visible and above-the-board community like a church or country club. Be active and visible.

Number THREE is to have an alarm. Make sure that if anything happens to you, someone will know about it immediately and get you a lawyer, a news crew, or anything out there to babysit the cops.

I have a suspicion that if the man in the original post had done those things, he would have fared better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


The problem with # 1 is that there are so many laws in the USA now that they are almost impossible to calculate. With so many laws on the books now, just about everyone breaks laws they didn't know existed. If they can't get you one way, they'll find another.
 Quoting: CatBTX


This was just what I was going to say. I watched John Stossel interview someone who said that on average, because of these screwy laws that we don't know about, we may be breaking about 100 a day?! I think that was the number, it was something where it doesn't matter what you do. Soley by existing you're breaking a law doing something.

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