Amazing chemtrail video shot from Fed Ex plane

No, I question your reason. You want people to tell you the volume or how much the tank holds, as if they know. We have a video with little explanation, yet it is clear some of these are not contrails. Would you like to explain that?

Do you want us all to change our minds and believe these are really contrails?

You mean you see something happening and you 'reverse-define' things to mean one aircraft can hold that amount of material.

Payload of KC 135R = 83,000lbs. Divide that by 8lbs per gallon = approx 10,375 gallons of material. You think THAT volume of material can cover 300 sq miles?? And you people wonder why you get called idiots.

They've been sighted since the B-17 bomb runs on Germany in WWII...bomber crews hated them.
Things did exist before you were born....the space race, the Cold War, contrails, transistor radios, record albums....that kind of stuff.

Our education system has failed us miserably.

In Chicago ops it was well within the tank storage capacity of the single sighted aircraft - ADC's. Biologicals can be distributed with a ground level density for human infection of a minimum(virus #'s per cubic meter) using an active tank and diluents for the aerosol. All the R&D and efficacies have been done here in Chicagoland, you can bet they have it down to a science.

As if they know? No... as if they DON'T KNOW- that is the point! They DON'T KNOW that there is no way the capacity of those aircraft could be able to do what they insist is being done! THAT is what is clear!

Ask yourself why fog doesn't crush you with it's weight.
I admit to being bone amateur, but I don't pretend to know more than that.
But you are embarrassing yourself now.

And how much do you assume is coming out at any given time?

You don't know what kind of tanks or technology is at hand here.

Don't make fun of people for assuming when you yourself are doing the same.

You have changed the subject. It is not about what level of density is needed to affect Humans. It is about the volume of material needed to obscure the sky or lay down a thick column for a hundred miles or more.

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I'm embarrassing myself and you want me to ask myself why fod doesn't crush me?


You've got to be kidding...smh

Wow- you are ultra sensitive. Don't get your panties in a wad.

You don't know either- that is also a good point. The video does not show typical contrails, otherwise we would not be discussing it. I would like an explanation too but it is all secretive. If it was a harmless act then there would be no issue to inform the public, now would there?

And how much do you assume is coming out at any given time?
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How much do YOU assume is coming out? YOU are the one trying to support this absurdity. Why have YOU not done that calculation?



What "kind of tanks"? So you are imagining some sort of magic tanks which can contain more volume than the aircraft in which they ride?




QUOTE: Well, there is at least enough in one aircraft to completely cover 300 square miles of Chicagoland and its suburbs.

This sort of statement makes fun of itself. I'm just pointing it out for those of you who are too dumb to notice.

The word you're looking for is "suspension" creating the illusion of solid volume.

Btw, the red coloration is not actual fire retardant, it is the sun creating the illusion of color to particles extending to the illusion of more volume because of the angle of the sun.

He had an excellent point and it went right over your head.

LOL

Also it is possible one of the clips were from a completely different vid showing a plane releasing actual retardant, but that is usually released "open/close" is very heavy and falls down in a shower under it's own weight.

According to whom?



You can't be serious. Do you really not see the inherent fallacy in what you just said?



You mean you declare your premise to be indisputable FACT. How droll. I just SHOWED the fallacy of the basic premise. All you can do is ignore it.

Your video clearly showing aerodynamic contrails that are DISSIPATING shot by a pilot making fun of "chemtrail" believers is your best proof? Says a lot.


CHEMTRAILS Exposed on Discovery Channel

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Don't believe in chemtrails? Watch this!Watch the sky!Heads Up!

[link to www.youtube.com]

Government ADMITS secretly SPRAYING POISON on us!!! Also admit secret tests hundreds of times!

[link to www.youtube.com]


What say ye shills?

Last Edited by KwittyKwitty on 12/01/2012 01:55 PM

Don't ask me to assume, I wasn't the one presenting numbers-
You were. For the numbers you put forth, as if you are some sort of contrail-proving expert, you should also calculate how much is coming out.

Finish your example to challenge that other poster, since you think you can prove him wrong

Is looking up the payload of various tankers beyond your capability? Are you this dumb or do you just play dumb on the internet?

In Chicago I watched the same aircraft turn and spray rows then columns with even lat/lon increments amounting to over 200 miles linear distance. btw, Months apart the same lat/lon of rows/columns were used.
The ADC's dispersed and merged with the adjacent ADC chemtrail roughly 8 miles apart, this is for some frame of reference as to accepted dispersion rates.



Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 12/01/2012 02:06 PM

I was speaking of when I personally began to notice chemtrails...when I was in my late 20's. I'm probably older than you are. Don't be such an ass!

Last Edited by KwittyKwitty on 12/01/2012 02:03 PM

Your video clearly showing aerodynamic contrails that are DISSIPATING shot by a pilot making fun of "chemtrail" believers is your best proof? Says a lot.


CHEMTRAILS Exposed on Discovery Channel

[link to www.youtube.com]

Don't believe in chemtrails? Watch this!Watch the sky!Heads Up!

[link to www.youtube.com]

Government ADMITS secretly SPRAYING POISON on us!!! Also admit secret tests hundreds of times!

[link to www.youtube.com]


What say ye shills?


To whom are you speaking?

If you think the plane at 5:06 is emitting a contrail cloud, then you are dense.

If I did not see some liquid substance coming out of that plane I would not be here arguing with you about it. You cannot explain that to me nor are you able to prove it is a contrail. I have never given 2 shits about chemtrails until today- but you seem very passionate about it, which is quite funny.

Where did you read that I said it was a fact? You did not prove a damn thing- there is nothing to ignore.

Tell you what. You asked the question, you look it up.
Or am I somehow responsible for you.

CHEMTRAILS Exposed on Discovery Channel

[link to www.youtube.com]

Don't believe in chemtrails? Watch this!Watch the sky!Heads Up!

[link to www.youtube.com]

Government ADMITS secretly SPRAYING POISON on us!!! Also admit secret tests hundreds of times!

[link to www.youtube.com]


What say ye shills?


To whom are you speaking?


"What say ye shills?"

Don't ask you to ASSUME?? Everything ABOUT "chemtrails" is ASSUMPTION! What is shown in this vid is pure ASSUMPTION, presented as if it was FACT! You want figures on Jetfuel consumption per mile? No.. you wan't to know how much stuff is being "sprayed" from those aircraft because that is your base ASSUMPTION! I have to "prove" that some 10,000 gallons of material is absurdly inadequate to cover 300 square miles? Surely you jest.

To whom are you speaking?


"What say ye shills?"


Well, if you are expecting the shills who are here to promote "chemtrails" to answer you, I think you will have long wait.

Allow me to add to that last comment, note I may have thought of calling you 'dumb' but summoned my better self to get you curious about finding answers to some of your questions. But it is clear you are here to self-indulgently dick people around and waste their time with you.

I already did, for the KC135R, and posted it right here. Are you not even reading the thread?

AC099,
I only have eyewitness accounts of the Chicagoland ADC ops. I archived them here on GLP for posterity with some times, dates, sat imagery. But without a super dooper telescopic lense/digital camera, no proof. A 60X spotting scope was the best I could muster, and the runs are fast, faster than any other air traffic during the day.


Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 12/01/2012 02:17 PM

You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.