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Amazing chemtrail video shot from Fed Ex plane

 
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hmm....

just how many gallons of "chemicals" were there on that plane to spray for as long as it did?

At the rate it looked liked it was "spraying" there had to be tens of thousands of gallons on board.

I have a hard time believing you could fit that much on board, when a C-130J can hold 3900 gallons of fire-retardant.
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Ask yourself why fog doesn't crush you with it's weight.
I admit to being bone amateur, but I don't pretend to know more than that.
But you are embarrassing yourself now.
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I'm embarrassing myself and you want me to ask myself why fod doesn't crush me?


You've got to be kidding...smh
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20,000 - 30,000 gallons.
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AC099,
AC200 doesn't exist. But I responded to get some salient data into the thread.

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Don't ask me to assume, I wasn't the one presenting numbers-
You were. For the numbers you put forth, as if you are some sort of contrail-proving expert, you should also calculate how much is coming out.

Finish your example to challenge that other poster, since you think you can prove him wrong
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Don't ask you to ASSUME?? Everything ABOUT "chemtrails" is ASSUMPTION! What is shown in this vid is pure ASSUMPTION, presented as if it was FACT! You want figures on Jetfuel consumption per mile? No.. you wan't to know how much stuff is being "sprayed" from those aircraft because that is your base ASSUMPTION! I have to "prove" that some 10,000 gallons of material is absurdly inadequate to cover 300 square miles? Surely you jest.
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You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
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There would have to be chemical tanks in the cargo mixing with other varying types of dispersants, depending on compounds sprayed.
I don't know what you mean by "volume" since I'm not employed by corporate gov't interests to understand details of executing these runs.
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Is looking up the payload of various tankers beyond your capability? Are you this dumb or do you just play dumb on the internet?
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Tell you what. You asked the question, you look it up.
Or am I somehow responsible for you.
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I already did, for the KC135R, and posted it right here. Are you not even reading the thread?
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No I have not read the thread in it's entirety (is there a rule I've missed?) nor interested to dissect your so far inane comments, nor am I inclined to wade through to find your self-proclaimed gem of a revelation.
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You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
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Again,
In Chicago I watched the same aircraft turn and spray rows then columns with even lat/lon increments amounting to over 200 miles linear distance. btw, Months apart the same lat/lon of rows/columns were used.
The ADC's dispersed and merged with the adjacent ADC chemtrail roughly 8 miles apart, this is for some frame of reference as to accepted dispersion rates.
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AC099,
AC200 doesn't exist. But I responded to get some salient data into the thread.
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Don't ask you to ASSUME?? Everything ABOUT "chemtrails" is ASSUMPTION! What is shown in this vid is pure ASSUMPTION, presented as if it was FACT! You want figures on Jetfuel consumption per mile? No.. you wan't to know how much stuff is being "sprayed" from those aircraft because that is your base ASSUMPTION! I have to "prove" that some 10,000 gallons of material is absurdly inadequate to cover 300 square miles? Surely you jest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
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I am sorry, I do not understand what you mean
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As if they know? No... as if they DON'T KNOW- that is the point! They DON'T KNOW that there is no way the capacity of those aircraft could be able to do what they insist is being done! THAT is what is clear!
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Wow- you are ultra sensitive. Don't get your panties in a wad.

You don't know either- that is also a good point. The video does not show typical contrails,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


According to whom?

otherwise we would not be discussing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


You can't be serious. Do you really not see the inherent fallacy in what you just said?

I would like an explanation too but it is all secretive. If it was a harmless act then there would be no issue to inform the public, now would there?
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You mean you declare your premise to be indisputable FACT. How droll. I just SHOWED the fallacy of the basic premise. All you can do is ignore it.
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If you think the plane at 5:06 is emitting a contrail cloud, then you are dense.
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Maybe someday you will learn that images can be deceiving and that just 'looking' at something and making assumptions about it is really bad science. On the other hand, the entire "chemtrail" movement is based on: "LOOOOOK-- you can SEEEEEE THEM!!!!"

If I did not see some liquid substance coming out of that plane I would not be here arguing with you about it.
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See above.

You cannot explain that to me nor are you able to prove it is a contrail.
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See above.

I have never given 2 shits about chemtrails until today- but you seem very passionate about it, which is quite funny.

Where did you read that I said it was a fact? You did not prove a damn thing- there is nothing to ignore.
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See above.
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Don't ask me to assume, I wasn't the one presenting numbers-
You were. For the numbers you put forth, as if you are some sort of contrail-proving expert, you should also calculate how much is coming out.

Finish your example to challenge that other poster, since you think you can prove him wrong
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Don't ask you to ASSUME?? Everything ABOUT "chemtrails" is ASSUMPTION! What is shown in this vid is pure ASSUMPTION, presented as if it was FACT! You want figures on Jetfuel consumption per mile? No.. you wan't to know how much stuff is being "sprayed" from those aircraft because that is your base ASSUMPTION! I have to "prove" that some 10,000 gallons of material is absurdly inadequate to cover 300 square miles? Surely you jest.
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You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.
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Would have to know WHAT about the tanks(other than the capacity)? Please be specific.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
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Nope. It's time for you people who prattle on about how "real" this threat is to face the fact that you don't/can't apply any real science to your claims.
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Wow- you are ultra sensitive. Don't get your panties in a wad.

You don't know either- that is also a good point. The video does not show typical contrails,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


According to whom?

otherwise we would not be discussing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


You can't be serious. Do you really not see the inherent fallacy in what you just said?

I would like an explanation too but it is all secretive. If it was a harmless act then there would be no issue to inform the public, now would there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


You mean you declare your premise to be indisputable FACT. How droll. I just SHOWED the fallacy of the basic premise. All you can do is ignore it.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


If you think the plane at 5:06 is emitting a contrail cloud, then you are dense.
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Maybe someday you will learn that images can be deceiving and that just 'looking' at something and making assumptions about it is really bad science. On the other hand, the entire "chemtrail" movement is based on: "LOOOOOK-- you can SEEEEEE THEM!!!!"

If I did not see some liquid substance coming out of that plane I would not be here arguing with you about it.
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See above.

You cannot explain that to me nor are you able to prove it is a contrail.
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See above.

I have never given 2 shits about chemtrails until today- but you seem very passionate about it, which is quite funny.

Where did you read that I said it was a fact? You did not prove a damn thing- there is nothing to ignore.
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See above.
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What are you doing on GLP, if you don't allow people to believe what they are seeing? Why fight about that?

So because I see that plane, and cannot explain it- it must not exist? Pisspoor logic right there.

You fail to explain how this plane is emitting a contrail vs a liquid chemtrail. You are just trying to stir shit up.
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AC099,
AC200 doesn't exist. But I responded to get some salient data into the thread.
I am sorry, I do not understand what you mean
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On my ignore list.
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Is looking up the payload of various tankers beyond your capability? Are you this dumb or do you just play dumb on the internet?
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Tell you what. You asked the question, you look it up.
Or am I somehow responsible for you.
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I already did, for the KC135R, and posted it right here. Are you not even reading the thread?
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No I have not read the thread in it's entirety (is there a rule I've missed?) nor interested to dissect your so far inane comments, nor am I inclined to wade through to find your self-proclaimed gem of a revelation.
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I just posted that in the last hour. Who said anything about reading the thread "in its entirety"? The payload of a KC135R is stated to be 83,000 lbs. That equates to approx 10,000 gallons of liquid. The claim is that the contents of a single aircraft can obscure 300 sq miles of sky. Get it? Any more questions?
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According to whom?

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You can't be serious. Do you really not see the inherent fallacy in what you just said?

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You mean you declare your premise to be indisputable FACT. How droll. I just SHOWED the fallacy of the basic premise. All you can do is ignore it.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


If you think the plane at 5:06 is emitting a contrail cloud, then you are dense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Maybe someday you will learn that images can be deceiving and that just 'looking' at something and making assumptions about it is really bad science. On the other hand, the entire "chemtrail" movement is based on: "LOOOOOK-- you can SEEEEEE THEM!!!!"

If I did not see some liquid substance coming out of that plane I would not be here arguing with you about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


See above.

You cannot explain that to me nor are you able to prove it is a contrail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


See above.

I have never given 2 shits about chemtrails until today- but you seem very passionate about it, which is quite funny.

Where did you read that I said it was a fact? You did not prove a damn thing- there is nothing to ignore.
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See above.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


What are you doing on GLP, if you don't allow people to believe what they are seeing? Why fight about that?

So because I see that plane, and cannot explain it- it must not exist? Pisspoor logic right there.

You fail to explain how this plane is emitting a contrail vs a liquid chemtrail. You are just trying to stir shit up.
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because, chemtrails are lies...

how would you handle a teacher at school, a pastor, you mayor or neighbor if they constantly screamed there was a dangerous pack of rabid dogs in your area...but there was none

and all they provided were pics or vids of dogs, some with foam at the mouth...

but not one attack occurred

how would you handle them

probably run them out on a rail
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Tell you what. You asked the question, you look it up.
Or am I somehow responsible for you.
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I already did, for the KC135R, and posted it right here. Are you not even reading the thread?
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No I have not read the thread in it's entirety (is there a rule I've missed?) nor interested to dissect your so far inane comments, nor am I inclined to wade through to find your self-proclaimed gem of a revelation.
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I just posted that in the last hour. Who said anything about reading the thread "in its entirety"? The payload of a KC135R is stated to be 83,000 lbs. That equates to approx 10,000 gallons of liquid. The claim is that the contents of a single aircraft can obscure 300 sq miles of sky. Get it? Any more questions?
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claim <> proof
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Don't ask you to ASSUME?? Everything ABOUT "chemtrails" is ASSUMPTION! What is shown in this vid is pure ASSUMPTION, presented as if it was FACT! You want figures on Jetfuel consumption per mile? No.. you wan't to know how much stuff is being "sprayed" from those aircraft because that is your base ASSUMPTION! I have to "prove" that some 10,000 gallons of material is absurdly inadequate to cover 300 square miles? Surely you jest.
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You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.
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Would have to know WHAT about the tanks(other than the capacity)? Please be specific.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
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Nope. It's time for you people who prattle on about how "real" this threat is to face the fact that you don't/can't apply any real science to your claims.
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I can see this video, they are dropping unknown liquid out of planes, I do not give up and say "yup its just a contrail"- I have the right to question it... got it?

You would have to know how much is being released, how much the tanks hold- assuming they even are the same tanks you think they are and not some undisclosed model.

You are unable and refuse to prove they can't cover 300 miles. Thank you for that revelation.
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You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
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Again,
In Chicago I watched the same aircraft turn and spray rows then columns with even lat/lon increments amounting to over 200 miles linear distance. btw, Months apart the same lat/lon of rows/columns were used.
The ADC's dispersed and merged with the adjacent ADC chemtrail roughly 8 miles apart, this is for some frame of reference as to accepted dispersion rates.
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You can SAY you saw the "same aircraft" turn and make multiple passes over an area, but you have nothing in the way of proof for that exceedingly unlikely claim. The claim that a column of material being "sprayed" from an aircraft could contain enough material to merge with another column 8 miles away is patently absurd.
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AC099,
AC200 doesn't exist. But I responded to get some salient data into the thread.
I am sorry, I do not understand what you mean
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On my ignore list.
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Lucky you... that is all I have to say
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What are you doing on GLP, if you don't allow people to believe what they are seeing? Why fight about that?

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Don't "allow"? How am I not allowing anything? Once again, as is the basis for most of the "woo" stuff, you falsely equate "seeing" with "understanding".

So because I see that plane, and cannot explain it- it must not exist? Pisspoor logic right there.
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What? When did I say the trails behind aircraft don't exist?

You fail to explain how this plane is emitting a contrail vs a liquid chemtrail. You are just trying to stir shit up.
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No, YOU fail to explain how an aircraft can contain the amount of liquid required to do what you claim they are doing.
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If you think the plane at 5:06 is emitting a contrail cloud, then you are dense.
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Maybe someday you will learn that images can be deceiving and that just 'looking' at something and making assumptions about it is really bad science. On the other hand, the entire "chemtrail" movement is based on: "LOOOOOK-- you can SEEEEEE THEM!!!!"

If I did not see some liquid substance coming out of that plane I would not be here arguing with you about it.
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See above.

You cannot explain that to me nor are you able to prove it is a contrail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


See above.

I have never given 2 shits about chemtrails until today- but you seem very passionate about it, which is quite funny.

Where did you read that I said it was a fact? You did not prove a damn thing- there is nothing to ignore.
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See above.
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What are you doing on GLP, if you don't allow people to believe what they are seeing? Why fight about that?

So because I see that plane, and cannot explain it- it must not exist? Pisspoor logic right there.

You fail to explain how this plane is emitting a contrail vs a liquid chemtrail. You are just trying to stir shit up.
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because, chemtrails are lies...

how would you handle a teacher at school, a pastor, you mayor or neighbor if they constantly screamed there was a dangerous pack of rabid dogs in your area...but there was none

and all they provided were pics or vids of dogs, some with foam at the mouth...

but not one attack occurred

how would you handle them

probably run them out on a rail
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Prove they are lies then..... you can't.

So you say it is OK to have the rabid dogs, as long as they don't attack? Pisspoor analogy.... sorry

I am 100% allowed to question what I see. I never cared before but now I may have an interest in this subject. Thank you for that.
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You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.
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Would have to know WHAT about the tanks(other than the capacity)? Please be specific.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Nope. It's time for you people who prattle on about how "real" this threat is to face the fact that you don't/can't apply any real science to your claims.
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I can see this video, they are dropping unknown liquid out of planes,
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You mean it LOOKS like it might be liquid. During an eclipse, it "LOOKS" like the sun has a hole in it.

I do not give up and say "yup its just a contrail"- I have the right to question it... got it?
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Question away, but why don't you question the basic premises of "chemtrails" too?

You would have to know how much is being released, how much the tanks hold- assuming they even are the same tanks you think they are and not some undisclosed model.
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:facepalm: The same tanks I think?? Aircraft cannot contain more volume than their own interiors, or carry more than their design payload capacity, hmm? Those are KNOWN aircraft, hmm? There is no MAGIC involved, hmm?

You are unable and refuse to prove they can't cover 300 miles. Thank you for that revelation.
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Obtuse much?
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AC099,
Shills to discredit and derail the chemtrail threads are few but persistant here on GLP. Despite their benign "I want to speak the truth that chemtrails don't exist" they are paid, corporate or govt shills. Thread owners could filter them out but most don't, preventing any constructive discussion. They use multiple AC User ID's, home, office, Starbucks, whatever, all the same nuisance.
On my ignore list.
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Lucky you... that is all I have to say
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What are you doing on GLP, if you don't allow people to believe what they are seeing? Why fight about that?

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Don't "allow"? How am I not allowing anything? Once again, as is the basis for most of the "woo" stuff, you falsely equate "seeing" with "understanding".

So because I see that plane, and cannot explain it- it must not exist? Pisspoor logic right there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


What? When did I say the trails behind aircraft don't exist?

You fail to explain how this plane is emitting a contrail vs a liquid chemtrail. You are just trying to stir shit up.
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No, YOU fail to explain how an aircraft can contain the amount of liquid required to do what you claim they are doing.
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You were making fun of people who believe chemtrails because they can see them. You make fun like you are 12 yrs old- because I QUESTION the unknown liquid coming off an airplane. I can see it- so what the hell do you want me to do with that visual experience?

If you see something, you may not understand it- but you sure as hell can believe your own eyes and QUESTION AUTHORITY.

The video SHOWS the liquid coming off the plane, I don't have to prove a damn thing- it is you who cannot prove it is a contrail.
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You are unable and refuse to prove they can't cover 300 miles. Thank you for that revelation.
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By the way, I have seen that calculation posted before. As with all the thorough debunking of "chemtrails" with solid science, it was roundly ignored.
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Whoever doesn't "believe" (I detest that word) there are not chemtrails they may do so. This is their personal business.
There is so much evidence to the contrary it no longer matters.
Funny but true anecdote, I called NOAA which happens to be only a mile from my house and asked about unusual air activity and the new phenomenon of small aircraft out of a small local airport leaving trails in the sky, always in cold atmospheric conditions, say october through may, resulting in cloudy days for months on end when this area touts sunny weather 225 days a year until this activity began.
The scientist I spoke to seemed interested until quite far into the conversation told me he was BLIND and so couldn't see the sky to know what I was talking about. I laughed at the circular folly of it all.
This is an ironic metaphor for life in the u.s. as a whole.
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...forgot to mention I made this call to NOAA in December 2005.
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AC099,
Shills to discredit and derail the chemtrail threads are few but persistant here on GLP. Despite their benign "I want to speak the truth that chemtrails don't exist" they are paid, corporate or govt shills. Thread owners could filter them out but most don't, preventing any constructive discussion. They use multiple AC User ID's, home, office, Starbucks, whatever, all the same nuisance.
On my ignore list.
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Lucky you... that is all I have to say
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Liar.
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Would have to know WHAT about the tanks(other than the capacity)? Please be specific.

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Nope. It's time for you people who prattle on about how "real" this threat is to face the fact that you don't/can't apply any real science to your claims.
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I can see this video, they are dropping unknown liquid out of planes,
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You mean it LOOKS like it might be liquid. During an eclipse, it "LOOKS" like the sun has a hole in it.

I do not give up and say "yup its just a contrail"- I have the right to question it... got it?
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Question away, but why don't you question the basic premises of "chemtrails" too?

You would have to know how much is being released, how much the tanks hold- assuming they even are the same tanks you think they are and not some undisclosed model.
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:facepalm: The same tanks I think?? Aircraft cannot contain more volume than their own interiors, or carry more than their design payload capacity, hmm? Those are KNOWN aircraft, hmm? There is no MAGIC involved, hmm?

You are unable and refuse to prove they can't cover 300 miles. Thank you for that revelation.
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Obtuse much?
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I know liquid when I see it vs a contrail cloud, just like I know an eclipse when I see it... nice try though.

If there is a video on a thread involving the questioning the idea of chemtrails, then that would be another discussion. There are some conspiracy theories I do not believe in, but it has to do with what I consider to be damning evidence.

I did not say there was magic involved... sensational much?
I never said the airplanes carried more than their capacity.
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Caffeinated 18 year old.
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What are you doing on GLP, if you don't allow people to believe what they are seeing? Why fight about that?

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Don't "allow"? How am I not allowing anything? Once again, as is the basis for most of the "woo" stuff, you falsely equate "seeing" with "understanding".

So because I see that plane, and cannot explain it- it must not exist? Pisspoor logic right there.
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What? When did I say the trails behind aircraft don't exist?

You fail to explain how this plane is emitting a contrail vs a liquid chemtrail. You are just trying to stir shit up.
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No, YOU fail to explain how an aircraft can contain the amount of liquid required to do what you claim they are doing.
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You were making fun of people who believe chemtrails because they can see them.
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Yes, because "seeing" is not the same as UNDERSTANDING!

You make fun like you are 12 yrs old- because I QUESTION the unknown liquid coming off an airplane.
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No, you THINK you "SEE" liquid being "sprayed". What you should question is what you THINK you "SEE".

I can see it- so what the hell do you want me to do with that visual experience?
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I want you to understand that "seeing" is not the same as UNDERSTANDING.

If you see something, you may not understand it- but you sure as hell can believe your own eyes and QUESTION AUTHORITY.
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No, you CAN'T "believe your own eyes" if you don't UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF WHAT YOU ARE "seeing".

The video SHOWS the liquid coming off the plane, I don't have to prove a damn thing- it is you who cannot prove it is a contrail.
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No, the vid shows something you THINK is liquid being sprayed from tanks on an aircraft, because it LOOKS sorta like that to you. Why can't it be condensate from the engine exhaust?
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You are unable and refuse to prove they can't cover 300 miles. Thank you for that revelation.
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By the way, I have seen that calculation posted before. As with all the thorough debunking of "chemtrails" with solid science, it was roundly ignored.
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So where is it posted then? Did you determine how much comes out, considering how fast the plane is going over the desired area?
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Chemtrail Pilots SPRAYING BLOOD bsflag

One of THE most Stupid threads I've ever seen on glp!!

And It's Pinned...putin
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On the ridiculous claim of blood, I completely agree. These are nasty chemtrails, alright, but I'm sure they're full of chaff or chemicals. Whoever put that Youtube up must have copied it from someone else. On page one of this thread, someone embedded the same video from Liveleak and it doesn't have the blood title.

I'd like to reiterate that I think the purpose of these things is what I posted on page 5 (post that's bolded in the middle).
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Re: Amazing chemtrail video shot from Fed Ex plane
Whoever doesn't "believe" (I detest that word) there are not chemtrails they may do so. This is their personal business.
There is so much evidence to the contrary it no longer matters.
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Right... and there is so much "evidence" that Nibiru exists that it must be true, right? The sheer volume of crapola on these subjects does not make it true. Nonsense cannot validate itself except to those who think quantity equals quality.

Funny but true anecdote, I called NOAA which happens to be only a mile from my house and asked about unusual air activity and the new phenomenon of small aircraft out of a small local airport leaving trails in the sky, always in cold atmospheric conditions, say october through may, resulting in cloudy days for months on end when this area touts sunny weather 225 days a year until this activity began.
The scientist I spoke to seemed interested until quite far into the conversation told me he was BLIND and so couldn't see the sky to know what I was talking about. I laughed at the circular folly of it all.
This is an ironic metaphor for life in the u.s. as a whole.
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The fact that you think the only cause of those cloudy days was small, local aircraft speaks volumes.

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