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Do people who say the sun/moon are in the wrong place understand what they see? Do people who see "two suns" in images from cheap cameras understand what they see?
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I do not consider it the same issue, nice try.

You were trying to tell me I don't know liquid when I see it.
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It is exactly the same issue. It is about understanding what you are looking at.

Back to the original question, then. If that is "liquid", how long can that aircraft keep up that level of "spraying"?
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I would rather know who, what, where and why vs how long and how much.
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Gads... you really don't get the point. The POINT is that if it is not possible for an aircraft to contain enough material to "spray" what people claim is "chemtrails", then the whole story falls right apart- they aren't seeing "spraying" at all!

Lets say that people were being sprayed, and we had full disclosure, would you feel bad for fighting it for so long? Wouldn't you feel bad if people WERE being hurt in some way?

I am just curious
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It's the same question people ask about debunking "Nibiru" and is moot. I know people are being hurt by hysterical belief in various internet hoaxes. That is a given.
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You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099

Again,
In Chicago I watched the same aircraft turn and spray rows then columns with even lat/lon increments amounting to over 200 miles linear distance. btw, Months apart the same lat/lon of rows/columns were used.
The ADC's dispersed and merged with the adjacent ADC chemtrail roughly 8 miles apart, this is for some frame of reference as to accepted dispersion rates.
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His first post said 300 sq miles, but he did not say how far apart the trails were.

This post he says they were @ 8 miles apart.
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You said "they" referring to the *chemmies* you choose to fight with all the time. I don't know what they tell you so I cannot fight their fights.... got it?
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You really ought to understand the mentality and the position and claims of the people who promote the "chemtrail" story.

I do not recall him saying it covered 300 square miles, just 300 miles which I thought he meant in the form of one trail.
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No, he said that a single plane went back and forth and then 90 degrees to that and that those trails spread out to cover the entire Chicago area.

I am not comparing seeing an eclipse to seeing a chemtrail from the ground... I am comparing it to seeing what I know to be liquid, don't change the subject.
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OK... if that is "liquid" then why doesn't it form a solid column and fall directly to the ground?
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If you think so little of these people, then why do you fight them so much? If you find yourself superior in some way and they will never understand you, then it is a waste of your precious time.

I will have to look at his post again to see if he said 300 square miles.

Because of the speed of the airplane it would not make a single column to the ground, you know that too- you are just trying to test me.
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The point is- you don't think it is "LIQUID" at all. You think it is "mist" from liquid being sprayed, right?

The poster said that a SINGLE aircraft laid down trails of "spray" 8 miles apart, in both directions, which then grew together to cover the entire area. The very idea is absurd.
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AC099,
I'd like to chime in here. The Chicago ADC ops were probably R&D, testing the technique/dispersion rate. Maybe some innocuous chemical marker that could determine efficacy. Data gleaned from the widely dispersed numerous ER, clinics, hospitals. We do have the New Rush hospital designed to treat infectious threats Tower has features to address bioterrorism and deadly pandemic, a clearing house to correlate the marker data.
The fed portion of money for that Rush addition might have had strings attached.


I would rather know who, what, where and why vs how long and how much.

Lets say that people were being sprayed, and we had full disclosure, would you feel bad for fighting it for so long? Wouldn't you feel bad if people WERE being hurt in some way?

I am just curious
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AC099,
I'd like to chime in here. The Chicago ADC ops were probably R&D, testing the technique/dispersion rate. Maybe some innocuous chemical marker that could determine efficacy. Data gleaned from the widely dispersed numerous ER, clinics, hospitals. We do have the New Rush hospital designed to treat infectious threats Tower has features to address bioterrorism and deadly pandemic, a clearing house to correlate the marker data.
The fed money for that Rush addition might have had strings attached.

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Zero evidence of a single plane turning around and laying down patterns of "spray" has been shown.
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I do not consider it the same issue, nice try.

You were trying to tell me I don't know liquid when I see it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


It is exactly the same issue. It is about understanding what you are looking at.

Back to the original question, then. If that is "liquid", how long can that aircraft keep up that level of "spraying"?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I would rather know who, what, where and why vs how long and how much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Gads... you really don't get the point. The POINT is that if it is not possible for an aircraft to contain enough material to "spray" what people claim is "chemtrails", then the whole story falls right apart- they aren't seeing "spraying" at all!

Lets say that people were being sprayed, and we had full disclosure, would you feel bad for fighting it for so long? Wouldn't you feel bad if people WERE being hurt in some way?

I am just curious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


It's the same question people ask about debunking "Nibiru" and is moot. I know people are being hurt by hysterical belief in various internet hoaxes. That is a given.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I will have to agree to disagree in order to get you off my back. I do think it is possible, so there is where we disagree.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."-Voltaire
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AC099,
GPS navigation made the lines an even lat/lon number each run.
I've lived in Chicago many years and calculated the separation distance by using Chicago landmarks in the satellite/ADC imagery.

With the daylight runs and visual confirmation of dispersion, night ADC ops are a no-brainer.

You assume you KNOW that they can't cover 300 miles, but you also would have to KNOW how much is coming out any any given time. And you woulld have to know about the tanks themselves.

Go ahead... finish you number crunching. You bothered to make it this far, and you even referred to the guy as an idiot- so prove to him what he himself witnessed is wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099

Again,
In Chicago I watched the same aircraft turn and spray rows then columns with even lat/lon increments amounting to over 200 miles linear distance. btw, Months apart the same lat/lon of rows/columns were used.
The ADC's dispersed and merged with the adjacent ADC chemtrail roughly 8 miles apart, this is for some frame of reference as to accepted dispersion rates.
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His first post said 300 sq miles, but he did not say how far apart the trails were.

This post he says they were @ 8 miles apart.
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the tankers had no Radar signal.

these are not airplanes.

they are cloaked alien ships.

watch the movie "The Arrival" alien11
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By the way... the Youtube title of that vid contains this: "Chemtrail Pilots SPRAYING BLOOD". Do you believe that BLOOD was being sprayed?? And you don't get that there is subterfuge and intent to mislead built into this story and that specific vid?
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the tankers had no Radar signal.

these are not airplanes.

they are cloaked alien ships.

watch the movie "The Arrival" alien11
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You said "they" referring to the *chemmies* you choose to fight with all the time. I don't know what they tell you so I cannot fight their fights.... got it?
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You really ought to understand the mentality and the position and claims of the people who promote the "chemtrail" story.

I do not recall him saying it covered 300 square miles, just 300 miles which I thought he meant in the form of one trail.
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No, he said that a single plane went back and forth and then 90 degrees to that and that those trails spread out to cover the entire Chicago area.

I am not comparing seeing an eclipse to seeing a chemtrail from the ground... I am comparing it to seeing what I know to be liquid, don't change the subject.
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OK... if that is "liquid" then why doesn't it form a solid column and fall directly to the ground?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


If you think so little of these people, then why do you fight them so much? If you find yourself superior in some way and they will never understand you, then it is a waste of your precious time.

I will have to look at his post again to see if he said 300 square miles.

Because of the speed of the airplane it would not make a single column to the ground, you know that too- you are just trying to test me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


The point is- you don't think it is "LIQUID" at all. You think it is "mist" from liquid being sprayed, right?

The poster said that a SINGLE aircraft laid down trails of "spray" 8 miles apart, in both directions, which then grew together to cover the entire area. The very idea is absurd.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


If he watched it happen, then it is not absurd to him.

I do not know the small details about the substance, but when compared to a contrail cloud it appears to be heavier and more liquid.
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By the way... the Youtube title of that vid contains this: "Chemtrail Pilots SPRAYING BLOOD". Do you believe that BLOOD was being sprayed?? And you don't get that there is subterfuge and intent to mislead built into this story and that specific vid?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Sensational titles are common on threads and on youtube in order to attract attention. I don't think his intentions are sinister. In my opinion it was not blood but the sunset behind it which he left in the last shot (he could have removed the sunset and left us wondering).
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The poster said that a SINGLE aircraft laid down trails of "spray" 8 miles apart, in both directions, which then grew together to cover the entire area. The very idea is absurd.
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Yup, absurd... until you spent a few hours watching it happen.
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It is exactly the same issue. It is about understanding what you are looking at.

Back to the original question, then. If that is "liquid", how long can that aircraft keep up that level of "spraying"?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I would rather know who, what, where and why vs how long and how much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Gads... you really don't get the point. The POINT is that if it is not possible for an aircraft to contain enough material to "spray" what people claim is "chemtrails", then the whole story falls right apart- they aren't seeing "spraying" at all!

Lets say that people were being sprayed, and we had full disclosure, would you feel bad for fighting it for so long? Wouldn't you feel bad if people WERE being hurt in some way?

I am just curious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


It's the same question people ask about debunking "Nibiru" and is moot. I know people are being hurt by hysterical belief in various internet hoaxes. That is a given.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I will have to agree to disagree in order to get you off my back. I do think it is possible, so there is where we disagree.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."-Voltaire
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Your tag is funny, considering that we are not "allowed" to question the chemtrail or Niburu story without it being cited as proof it is right.
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The poster said that a SINGLE aircraft laid down trails of "spray" 8 miles apart, in both directions, which then grew together to cover the entire area. The very idea is absurd.
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Yup, absurd... until you spent a few hours watching it happen.
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It would be so simple for you to video that SAME single plane passing overhead again and again and again and prove your story. Funny how you never do that.
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The poster said that a SINGLE aircraft laid down trails of "spray" 8 miles apart, in both directions, which then grew together to cover the entire area. The very idea is absurd.
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Yup, absurd... until you spent a few hours watching it happen.
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It would be so simple for you to video that SAME single plane passing overhead again and again and again and prove your story. Funny how you never do that.
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I think he mentioned having posted videos before
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You really ought to understand the mentality and the position and claims of the people who promote the "chemtrail" story.

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No, he said that a single plane went back and forth and then 90 degrees to that and that those trails spread out to cover the entire Chicago area.

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OK... if that is "liquid" then why doesn't it form a solid column and fall directly to the ground?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


If you think so little of these people, then why do you fight them so much? If you find yourself superior in some way and they will never understand you, then it is a waste of your precious time.

I will have to look at his post again to see if he said 300 square miles.

Because of the speed of the airplane it would not make a single column to the ground, you know that too- you are just trying to test me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


The point is- you don't think it is "LIQUID" at all. You think it is "mist" from liquid being sprayed, right?

The poster said that a SINGLE aircraft laid down trails of "spray" 8 miles apart, in both directions, which then grew together to cover the entire area. The very idea is absurd.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


If he watched it happen, then it is not absurd to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Duh? People believe what people believe. That doesn't make it true.

I do not know the small details about the substance, but when compared to a contrail cloud it appears to be heavier and more liquid.
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I agree, it APPEARS that way. However... to jump from that to "chemtrails" is one hell of a leap. It APPEARS that they are "SPRAYING BLOOD" later in the same vid and they TELL YOU that is what is happening. Does that make it true??
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By the way... the Youtube title of that vid contains this: "Chemtrail Pilots SPRAYING BLOOD". Do you believe that BLOOD was being sprayed?? And you don't get that there is subterfuge and intent to mislead built into this story and that specific vid?
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Sensational titles are common on threads and on youtube in order to attract attention. I don't think his intentions are sinister. In my opinion it was not blood but the sunset behind it which he left in the last shot (he could have removed the sunset and left us wondering).
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Right... outright lying is not sinister, it is just good marketing! Why do people let blatant lies like that go by, but take to task everything the "mainstream media" says? Don't look now, but people believe all sort of nonsense they see on Youboob. Maybe it is not as blatant as "SPRAYING BLOOD", but it is equally as false.
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I would rather know who, what, where and why vs how long and how much.
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Gads... you really don't get the point. The POINT is that if it is not possible for an aircraft to contain enough material to "spray" what people claim is "chemtrails", then the whole story falls right apart- they aren't seeing "spraying" at all!

Lets say that people were being sprayed, and we had full disclosure, would you feel bad for fighting it for so long? Wouldn't you feel bad if people WERE being hurt in some way?

I am just curious
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


It's the same question people ask about debunking "Nibiru" and is moot. I know people are being hurt by hysterical belief in various internet hoaxes. That is a given.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I will have to agree to disagree in order to get you off my back. I do think it is possible, so there is where we disagree.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."-Voltaire
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Your tag is funny, considering that we are not "allowed" to question the chemtrail or Niburu story without it being cited as proof it is right.
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You misread the meaning of the quote. I put the quote there, referring to an authority who puts a negative label on those who question them.

I never said it wasn't allowed, I said I questioned your motives for even bothering with it. You don't believe in it but here we are some 12 pages in. I let you criticize me this whole time... I'm still here aren't I?
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Yup, absurd... until you spent a few hours watching it happen.
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It would be so simple for you to video that SAME single plane passing overhead again and again and again and prove your story. Funny how you never do that.
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I think he mentioned having posted videos before
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And do those vids make it clear that it is the SAME PLANE turning around returning over and over again? Of course not- its sheer speculation.
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By the way... the Youtube title of that vid contains this: "Chemtrail Pilots SPRAYING BLOOD". Do you believe that BLOOD was being sprayed?? And you don't get that there is subterfuge and intent to mislead built into this story and that specific vid?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Sensational titles are common on threads and on youtube in order to attract attention. I don't think his intentions are sinister. In my opinion it was not blood but the sunset behind it which he left in the last shot (he could have removed the sunset and left us wondering).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Right... outright lying is not sinister, it is just good marketing! Why do people let blatant lies like that go by, but take to task everything the "mainstream media" says? Don't look now, but people believe all sort of nonsense they see on Youboob. Maybe it is not as blatant as "SPRAYING BLOOD", but it is equally as false.
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You are way too wound up an sensational.... I am done here- I have a life I need to get back to
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Gads... you really don't get the point. The POINT is that if it is not possible for an aircraft to contain enough material to "spray" what people claim is "chemtrails", then the whole story falls right apart- they aren't seeing "spraying" at all!

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It's the same question people ask about debunking "Nibiru" and is moot. I know people are being hurt by hysterical belief in various internet hoaxes. That is a given.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I will have to agree to disagree in order to get you off my back. I do think it is possible, so there is where we disagree.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."-Voltaire
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Your tag is funny, considering that we are not "allowed" to question the chemtrail or Niburu story without it being cited as proof it is right.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You misread the meaning of the quote. I put the quote there, referring to an authority who puts a negative label on those who question them.
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I didn't misread it at all. It is the chemmies who have put themselves in the position of "authority" in that the existence of "chemtrails" can no longer be questioned. They insist it is a given. Nancy Lieder does the same thing with her "Planet X".

I never said it wasn't allowed, I said I questioned your motives for even bothering with it. You don't believe in it but here we are some 12 pages in. I let you criticize me this whole time... I'm still here aren't I?
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The number one response to people coming on threads to debunk stuff is that it automatically proves the thing right. I'm not talking about YOU, in specific. I'm talking about the "movement" with which you seem to be aligning your self.
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By the way... the Youtube title of that vid contains this: "Chemtrail Pilots SPRAYING BLOOD". Do you believe that BLOOD was being sprayed?? And you don't get that there is subterfuge and intent to mislead built into this story and that specific vid?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Sensational titles are common on threads and on youtube in order to attract attention. I don't think his intentions are sinister. In my opinion it was not blood but the sunset behind it which he left in the last shot (he could have removed the sunset and left us wondering).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Right... outright lying is not sinister, it is just good marketing! Why do people let blatant lies like that go by, but take to task everything the "mainstream media" says? Don't look now, but people believe all sort of nonsense they see on Youboob. Maybe it is not as blatant as "SPRAYING BLOOD", but it is equally as false.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You are way too wound up an sensational.... I am done here- I have a life I need to get back to
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


You seriously underestimate the hysterics and fervor behind these internet hoaxes. People are BELIEVING this stuff! People will BELIEVE that that plane is "SPRAYING BLOOD"!
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Re: Amazing chemtrail video shot from Fed Ex plane
By the way... the Youtube title of that vid contains this: "Chemtrail Pilots SPRAYING BLOOD". Do you believe that BLOOD was being sprayed?? And you don't get that there is subterfuge and intent to mislead built into this story and that specific vid?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Sensational titles are common on threads and on youtube in order to attract attention. I don't think his intentions are sinister. In my opinion it was not blood but the sunset behind it which he left in the last shot (he could have removed the sunset and left us wondering).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Right... outright lying is not sinister, it is just good marketing! Why do people let blatant lies like that go by, but take to task everything the "mainstream media" says? Don't look now, but people believe all sort of nonsense they see on Youboob. Maybe it is not as blatant as "SPRAYING BLOOD", but it is equally as false.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You are way too wound up an sensational.... I am done here- I have a life I need to get back to
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Search for "Chemwebs" on Youtube. People BELIEVE that webs they see on fences in their yard, etc have been sprayed out of aircraft!
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I will have to agree to disagree in order to get you off my back. I do think it is possible, so there is where we disagree.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."-Voltaire
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


Your tag is funny, considering that we are not "allowed" to question the chemtrail or Niburu story without it being cited as proof it is right.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You misread the meaning of the quote. I put the quote there, referring to an authority who puts a negative label on those who question them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


I didn't misread it at all. It is the chemmies who have put themselves in the position of "authority" in that the existence of "chemtrails" can no longer be questioned. They insist it is a given. Nancy Lieder does the same thing with her "Planet X".

I never said it wasn't allowed, I said I questioned your motives for even bothering with it. You don't believe in it but here we are some 12 pages in. I let you criticize me this whole time... I'm still here aren't I?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781099


The number one response to people coming on threads to debunk stuff is that it automatically proves the thing right. I'm not talking about YOU, in specific. I'm talking about the "movement" with which you seem to be aligning your self.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


*Chemmies* are not out to get you, they are not an authority- they don't give you orders, quit being so paranoid. An example of authority is the Government.

You must love to argue... don't you have someone at home you can bother?

Why don't you give up?
Yes I question you, your passion damns itself.
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At 35,000+ feet even a tanker that size is just a spec.

I said it was the fastest mover in the sky that day, viewing time might have been less than 45 seconds per pass!

Now try and track that with a 50-60X spotting scope with a -5 degree foview angle...

Ha, and he wants a video... ludicrous.


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Yup, absurd... until you spent a few hours watching it happen.
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It would be so simple for you to video that SAME single plane passing overhead again and again and again and prove your story. Funny how you never do that.
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I think he mentioned having posted videos before
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US Infidelis
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Sensational titles are common on threads and on youtube in order to attract attention. I don't think his intentions are sinister. In my opinion it was not blood but the sunset behind it which he left in the last shot (he could have removed the sunset and left us wondering).
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Right... outright lying is not sinister, it is just good marketing! Why do people let blatant lies like that go by, but take to task everything the "mainstream media" says? Don't look now, but people believe all sort of nonsense they see on Youboob. Maybe it is not as blatant as "SPRAYING BLOOD", but it is equally as false.
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You are way too wound up an sensational.... I am done here- I have a life I need to get back to
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You seriously underestimate the hysterics and fervor behind these internet hoaxes. People are BELIEVING this stuff! People will BELIEVE that that plane is "SPRAYING BLOOD"!
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I think you are nuts. hiding
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Pisses me off big time. They've been doing this since at least 1995. They are trying to KILL US, no kidding. Aluminum and Barium salts = memory killing mixture ON PURPOSE.

They are trying to make you stupid.

See the National Library of Medicine information here:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

See these articles:

Med Hypotheses. 1993 Oct;41(4):341-3.
Is aluminium an etiologic contributor to alcoholic amnesia and dementia?
Davis WM.
Abstract

Neurotoxicity from excess brain exposure to aluminium (Al) is well-documented, from both clinical observations and animal experiments, to impair learning, memory and cognition. The etiology of the cognitive impairment in chronic abusers of ethanol--alcoholic amnesia or dementia--is not known, but it is likely to be multifactorial. We hypothesize that a slowly-progressive accumulation of Al in the brain, so as to reach functionally-toxic levels, may be one such factor. This could occur because of an increased permeability of intestinal mucosa to entry of Al, arising from sustained exposure of the gastrointestinal tract to alcoholic beverages, plus a trend for more frequent ingestion of antacids based on Al salts for treating gastritis or ulcers caused by such exposure. If this be true, use of Al-containing medications, as well as all avoidable exposures to Al, should be contra-indicated for chronic heavy drinkers.
PMID: 8289699 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

They are making you stupid ON PURPOSE so you do not remember anything.

Barium salts and memory killing:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

See this article, specifically:

Neurology. 2010 May 11;74(19):1546-9.
Elementary, my dear Dr. Allen: the case of barium toxicity and Pa Ping.
Bowen LN, Subramony SH, Cheng J, Wu SS, Okun MS.
Source

Department of Neurology, Movement Disorders Center, University of Florida College of Medicine, FL, USA. lauren.bowen@ufl.edu
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:

We aimed to review the English and Chinese literature on Pa Ping and to confirm by personal interview the story of how its pathogenesis was uncovered.
BACKGROUND:

In 1930, Dr. Alexander Stewart Allen noticed a pattern of illness arising in the region of Kiating, China. Area residents began presenting to local hospitals with nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, and what emerged was a clinical picture of a gradual ascending paralysis that could result in death, termed Pa Ping. All 3 patients observed by Dr. Allen were male, had no family history of the disease, and had recently eaten before the onset of paralysis. Pa Ping developed in Dr. Allen himself, but he survived.
METHODS:

Medical literature was reviewed for primary sources. Interviews of living descendants and friends of the doctors in China and North America were conducted and information was corroborated by written records.
RESULTS:

Dr. Huang, with the National Central University College of Medicine, noticed a striking similarity between Pa Ping and familial periodic paralysis in 12 patients and reported 2 patients with Pa Ping treated with potassium citrate who experienced a reversal of the paralysis. Dr. K.T. Du analyzed meals of patients with Pa Ping seen by Dr. Zhe Tung and found barium in concentrations as high as 25.7%. This finding was confirmed by administering barium chloride to animals, which recapitulated the human syndrome.
CONCLUSIONS:

Although Dr. Huang had correctly noticed an underlying potassium depletion in patients with Pa Ping, the observations of Dr. Zhe Tung and Dr. K.T. Du ultimately established barium-induced hypokalemia as the underlying cause.
PMID: 20458073 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Disease from barium overdose is called "Pa Ping." Symptoms of Pa Ping include:

[link to pmj.bmj.com]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

J Chir (Paris). 1983 Nov;120(11):611-3.
[A case of barium-peritoneum with neurological involvement. Importance of barium determination in biological fluids].
[Article in French]
Deixonne B, Baumel H, Mauras Y, Allain P, Robert C, Raffanel C.
Abstract

Barium in the peritoneum following a barium enema led to a severe and irreversible chronic barium poisoning, although from the abdominal and gastro-intestinal point of view, there were virtually no sequelae. Barium assay on the cerebro-spinal fluid of this patient revealed excessively high levels, which provides the laboratory evidence of the direct action of barium on the central nervous system. Barium assays on biological fluids after barium-peritoneum could be used to assess the degree of barium poisoning and may have prognostic value.
PMID: 6655009 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


And here's the mother load:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Studies such as:

5-Hydroxytryptamine activates a barium-sensitive, cAMP-mediated potassium conductance in the leech giant glial cell.

Ethanol effects on dopaminergic ventral tegmental area neurons during block of Ih: involvement of barium-sensitive potassium currents.

Elevated silver, barium and strontium in antlers, vegetation and soils sourced from CWD cluster areas: do Ag/Ba/Sr piezoelectric crystals represent the transmissible pathogenic agent in TSEs?

(Note: TSE = transmissable spongioform encephalopathy, i.e., MAD COW DISEASE, MAD DEER AND ELK DISEASE, or Cruzefeldt-Jakob Disease in humans)

THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY MAKING YOU STUPID SO YOU DO NOT REACT TO BEING TAKEN OVER BY THE COMMUNISTS.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!

please WAKE UP!!!!!!!

NOW!!!!!

oR YOU WILL BE HERDED OFF TO THE FEMA CREMATORIUM FOR KILLING.
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Tell ya what: It doesn't matter if anything is synced or who was flying the planes from which the videos were shot. The point is that the videos were shot from an aircraft and what they captured is undeniable. Those are NOT contrails.
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So, if those trails are comprised of stuff being "sprayed" from the planes, just how long do you think they could keep "spraying" that volume of stuff from the contents of tanks which would fit in those aircraft?
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First of all, it's not "if". The documentation, from government, confirms stuff being sprayed. Most if the information is about global warming mitigation and radar (military).

I don't know how much a tanker can hold. How many 55 gallon drums x sq ft available in the aircraft = how much? I don't know. Any liquid, which is condensed, becomes an aerosol when sprayed, so all those drums could = a lot of mist. Same for chaff. It's going to cover a lot more cubic ft when sprayed out into the atmosphere.

A 757-200 holds 11,489 gallons of fuel. What would that cover in cubic ft if sprayed? So, that's the kind of fuel that can be in a plane. Now, how much can the body of hold in 55 gallon drums? A LOT.
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Whoever doesn't "believe" (I detest that word) there are not chemtrails they may do so. This is their personal business.
There is so much evidence to the contrary it no longer matters.
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Right... and there is so much "evidence" that Nibiru exists that it must be true, right? The sheer volume of crapola on these subjects does not make it true. Nonsense cannot validate itself except to those who think quantity equals quality.

Funny but true anecdote, I called NOAA which happens to be only a mile from my house and asked about unusual air activity and the new phenomenon of small aircraft out of a small local airport leaving trails in the sky, always in cold atmospheric conditions, say october through may, resulting in cloudy days for months on end when this area touts sunny weather 225 days a year until this activity began.
The scientist I spoke to seemed interested until quite far into the conversation told me he was BLIND and so couldn't see the sky to know what I was talking about. I laughed at the circular folly of it all.
This is an ironic metaphor for life in the u.s. as a whole.
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The fact that you think the only cause of those cloudy days was small, local aircraft speaks volumes.
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As a favor to us all, go die. You are truly like an obnoxious fish-breath cat that keeps returning.
I'm not giving you anything from this point.

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