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Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?

 
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Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
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I think they want the lower tier of society to compete with workers in third world countries that make 7 dollars a day.
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I think they want the lower tier of society to compete with workers in third world countries that make 7 dollars a day.
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Or just starve. Whatever.

Yes unions need busting. Who do these people think they are, expecting 40 hour workweeks?
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

such laws render collective bargaining impossible, and allow employers to run roughshod over their employees. i work blue collar in a "right to work" state. the long term consequences of such laws is the lowering of wages all across the blue collar fields, the flight of truly skilled trades and crafts workers, and depressed economy in general. a well paid work force is the engine of a healthy economy. that idea is borne out by examination of EVERY boom or bust in this country. the slow destruction of unions over the past 3 decades is one of the MAJOR factors in the sorry shape of our economy.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
Your American freedoms are a fucking joke.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

It is just a ploy to legally hire illegal immigrants. This is just the start man, Dream Act coming next. Government should stay out of what a private employer decides to do with his/her employees period. Read between the lines.
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I think they want the lower tier of society to compete with workers in third world countries that make 7 dollars a day.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

such laws render collective bargaining impossible, and allow employers to run roughshod over their employees. i work blue collar in a "right to work" state. the long term consequences of such laws is the lowering of wages all across the blue collar fields, the flight of truly skilled trades and crafts workers, and depressed economy in general. a well paid work force is the engine of a healthy economy. that idea is borne out by examination of EVERY boom or bust in this country. the slow destruction of unions over the past 3 decades is one of the MAJOR factors in the sorry shape of our economy.
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Sorry but, I don't buy it.^^^ You're a union worker - aren't ya?
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
Personally, I support the Right to Work laws.

Joining a union should not be a requirement for employment. There may have been a time when unions were a positive thing. Now? Not so much. Not when there are certain union leaders who are no more than thugs.

I also oppose card check.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

It is just a ploy to legally hire illegal immigrants. This is just the start man, Dream Act coming next. Government should stay out of what a private employer decides to do with his/her employees period. Read between the lines.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


I'm not sure 'at this point' based on what others here have said - what to think of that law. I've never been a union worker.

I think you might be wrong on 'legally hire illegals' - if its against the law -well-its against the law. However, there might be a lot more research to be done on the 'legalities' per state and hireing illegals.

I don't know enough about that law. Like I said in the op - I'm just hearing about it...

What I do definantly know is that - come to GLP, ask the question and people give you links and food for thought....its all good.hf
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
Personally, I support the Right to Work laws.

Joining a union should not be a requirement for employment. There may have been a time when unions were a positive thing. Now? Not so much. Not when there are certain union leaders who are no more than thugs.

I also oppose card check.
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I sooo agree with you....I should have the right to work without being extorted.....simple as that.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

such laws render collective bargaining impossible, and allow employers to run roughshod over their employees. i work blue collar in a "right to work" state. the long term consequences of such laws is the lowering of wages all across the blue collar fields, the flight of truly skilled trades and crafts workers, and depressed economy in general. a well paid work force is the engine of a healthy economy. that idea is borne out by examination of EVERY boom or bust in this country. the slow destruction of unions over the past 3 decades is one of the MAJOR factors in the sorry shape of our economy.
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Sorry but, I don't buy it.^^^ You're a union worker - aren't ya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

no, i certainly am not a union worker. i'm a non union welder in florida (a right to work state). i have seen what unions can do, and what a lack of ability to unionize does. i have seen well paying industries go to shit when the unions got "busted" and non union workers flooded it. i have seen shops where the union was voted out, and the abuses of power started within weeks. if you cant have a "closed shop" you can not effectively engage in collective bargaining. i honestly dont give a damn what you "buy", history bears out every one of my stances. the booming middle class of the mid 20th century was because of strong union membership. the slow disintegration of the middle class in this country EXACTLY follows the loss of union power in labor and trades. working conditions before the union boom were deplorable. job site safety, wages, spending power, and the entire local economy all see an uptick when unions gain power, all ALWAYS go down when unions lose power. but go ahead, allow your governor to enact such a law, and then come back in 10 years and tell me much everything has improved, lol. im not going to hold my breath, because i KNOW what will happen, and YOU will find out at your own expense.
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"Right to Work" does nothing to stop a person from joining a union. It just says union membership can not be required to get a job. Unions still exist in right to work states.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

such laws render collective bargaining impossible, and allow employers to run roughshod over their employees. i work blue collar in a "right to work" state. the long term consequences of such laws is the lowering of wages all across the blue collar fields, the flight of truly skilled trades and crafts workers, and depressed economy in general. a well paid work force is the engine of a healthy economy. that idea is borne out by examination of EVERY boom or bust in this country. the slow destruction of unions over the past 3 decades is one of the MAJOR factors in the sorry shape of our economy.
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Sorry but, I don't buy it.^^^ You're a union worker - aren't ya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


i'm not a union worker, but i have seen what he see's.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

such laws render collective bargaining impossible, and allow employers to run roughshod over their employees. i work blue collar in a "right to work" state. the long term consequences of such laws is the lowering of wages all across the blue collar fields, the flight of truly skilled trades and crafts workers, and depressed economy in general. a well paid work force is the engine of a healthy economy. that idea is borne out by examination of EVERY boom or bust in this country. the slow destruction of unions over the past 3 decades is one of the MAJOR factors in the sorry shape of our economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030



Sorry but, I don't buy it.^^^ You're a union worker - aren't ya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

no, i certainly am not a union worker. i'm a non union welder in florida (a right to work state). i have seen what unions can do, and what a lack of ability to unionize does. i have seen well paying industries go to shit when the unions got "busted" and non union workers flooded it. i have seen shops where the union was voted out, and the abuses of power started within weeks. if you cant have a "closed shop" you can not effectively engage in collective bargaining. i honestly dont give a damn what you "buy", history bears out every one of my stances. the booming middle class of the mid 20th century was because of strong union membership. the slow disintegration of the middle class in this country EXACTLY follows the loss of union power in labor and trades. working conditions before the union boom were deplorable. job site safety, wages, spending power, and the entire local economy all see an uptick when unions gain power, all ALWAYS go down when unions lose power. but go ahead, allow your governor to enact such a law, and then come back in 10 years and tell me much everything has improved, lol. im not going to hold my breath, because i KNOW what will happen, and YOU will find out at your own expense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030




Hey, I have said it a few times - I just heard of this law 'tonight' on my local news, I know very little about it.

What little I know of unions is that they extort.

My question would be, why can't the employees unite and call the companies on the carpet without the unions extorting money from all the employees?

If all employees walk out-the company threatens firing them all and they will be replaced by others...that company has to pay a hugh amount to train all new employees...

My mind is whirling from info right now but, it so far seems that the RTW law is a good thing.....maybe I would think different if I ever worked in a situation that had a union. IDK
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

such laws render collective bargaining impossible, and allow employers to run roughshod over their employees. i work blue collar in a "right to work" state. the long term consequences of such laws is the lowering of wages all across the blue collar fields, the flight of truly skilled trades and crafts workers, and depressed economy in general. a well paid work force is the engine of a healthy economy. that idea is borne out by examination of EVERY boom or bust in this country. the slow destruction of unions over the past 3 decades is one of the MAJOR factors in the sorry shape of our economy.
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Bingo!
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"Right to Work" does nothing to stop a person from joining a union. It just says union membership can not be required to get a job. Unions still exist in right to work states.
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this!

I live in a "right-to-work" state, it was one of the reasons I moved here, and would have it no other way.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is an outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

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such laws render collective bargaining impossible, and allow employers to run roughshod over their employees. i work blue collar in a "right to work" state. the long term consequences of such laws is the lowering of wages all across the blue collar fields, the flight of truly skilled trades and crafts workers, and depressed economy in general. a well paid work force is the engine of a healthy economy. that idea is borne out by examination of EVERY boom or bust in this country. the slow destruction of unions over the past 3 decades is one of the MAJOR factors in the sorry shape of our economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030



Sorry but, I don't buy it.^^^ You're a union worker - aren't ya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727

no, i certainly am not a union worker. i'm a non union welder in florida (a right to work state). i have seen what unions can do, and what a lack of ability to unionize does. i have seen well paying industries go to shit when the unions got "busted" and non union workers flooded it. i have seen shops where the union was voted out, and the abuses of power started within weeks. if you cant have a "closed shop" you can not effectively engage in collective bargaining. i honestly dont give a damn what you "buy", history bears out every one of my stances. the booming middle class of the mid 20th century was because of strong union membership. the slow disintegration of the middle class in this country EXACTLY follows the loss of union power in labor and trades. working conditions before the union boom were deplorable. job site safety, wages, spending power, and the entire local economy all see an uptick when unions gain power, all ALWAYS go down when unions lose power. but go ahead, allow your governor to enact such a law, and then come back in 10 years and tell me much everything has improved, lol. im not going to hold my breath, because i KNOW what will happen, and YOU will find out at your own expense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030




Hey, I have said it a few times - I just heard of this law 'tonight' on my local news, I know very little about it.

What little I know of unions is that they extort.

My question would be, why can't the employees unite and call the companies on the carpet without the unions extorting money from all the employees?

If all employees walk out-the company threatens firing them all and they will be replaced by others...that company has to pay a hugh amount to train all new employees...

My mind is whirling from info right now but, it so far seems that the RTW law is a good thing.....maybe I would think different if I ever worked in a situation that had a union. IDK
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


Rule By Global Corporations which we live under (instead of a Republic) now want to sell you "Unions are evil" bull to take less pay and horrid working conditions. We went thru this from during Industrial Revolution until the late 1940's and history is repeating itself again.
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Re: Right to Work Law --- what do ya think of it?
"Right to Work" does nothing to stop a person from joining a union. It just says union membership can not be required to get a job. Unions still exist in right to work states.
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No, RTW doesn't stop a person from joining a union...its>>>


right-to-work law

a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.

and you cannot be fired for NOT wanting to join the union...
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I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


Do you think any new Law the system comes up with is to help the populace. Someone is getting paid off to pass this.
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I'm in MI and had never heard of this law, until today on the local news...so of course I looked it up. MI Gov may be signing it into law very soon.

def.- short and sweet..

Right-to-Work Law
noun
a state law making it illegal to refuse employment to a person for the sole reason that he or she is not a union member.


After finding out what it is and reading up on it for MI, I think its a great idea.....something has to start to bring those damn unions to their knees. Corrupt, government ass sucking,blood suckers that they are.

These are the states who already have the Right to Work law in place. MI may be next-soon.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.com]


List: [link to righttoworkstates.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


clappa

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"Right to Work" does nothing to stop a person from joining a union. It just says union membership can not be required to get a job. Unions still exist in right to work states.
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Sorry, back tracking posts.....

RTW stops a union from extorting money from an employee so they can keep their job...! Unions, yes, do exist in RTW states, but the RTW law says I don't have to pay the f-in corrupt union to keep my job!!!!!!
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"Right to Work" does nothing to stop a person from joining a union. It just says union membership can not be required to get a job. Unions still exist in right to work states.
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Sorry, back tracking posts.....

RTW stops a union from extorting money from an employee so they can keep their job...! Unions, yes, do exist in RTW states, but the RTW law says I don't have to pay the f-in corrupt union to keep my job!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


Corporations and Lawmakers can and will be corrupt also. At least a union will somewhat watch your back if they are corrupt or not. A CEO, bankster, or politician will feed you shit and tell you to like it.
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"Right to Work" does nothing to stop a person from joining a union. It just says union membership can not be required to get a job. Unions still exist in right to work states.
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Sorry, back tracking posts.....

RTW stops a union from extorting money from an employee so they can keep their job...! Unions, yes, do exist in RTW states, but the RTW law says I don't have to pay the f-in corrupt union to keep my job!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


sounds like a good thing

unions say RTW is anti worker,
but the individual worker has the right to decide if they want to join the union or not.

RTW states have
more tax revenue,
more jobs,
more companies moving to RTW states,
its great for the economy

Every worker has a choice.

Since when is having a choice a bad thing?

The unions just want more dues to stranglehold our representatives, which is WRONG

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