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Again, and again another indication that the country has decended into living hell...cursed by God for rejection of Him...the world will continue its decent into the pit at an alarming rate taking with it the just and the unjust. Kids and animals are the victims.
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I went to a private school. To use this as an alternative to keep your child "safe" from the bad things in public schools is absolutely rediculous. 1/3 of the kids that attended private school with me had been kicked out of public schools and their parents had no choice but to pay for their educations. Therefore exposing the other children to all the ills of the public schools. When I changed over to public schooling I was scared to death until I got there and realized it was a walk in the park compared to the private school experience.
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Bullying is the new "BUZZ" word.

It has been going on for ages, and it will continue to go on for ages. Sorry, but it is a RITE OF PASSAGE into manhood for most young men.

There was a bully in my neighborhood growing up. Kids eventually stopped playing with him and he became an outcast in our neighborhood. He just continued to bully anyone he caught up with, until eventually he found himself no longer the biggest kid in the neighborhood. Eventually, he started getting his ass beat every time he showed up by kids he had bullied over the years. There were always a few kids he could manage to bully but they usually were protected by their friends.

A bully has two possible outcomes in life. They grow up and apologise to everyone the bullied or they grow up to be complete losers.

Gay kids are going to be picked on.
Fat kids are going to be picked on.
Geeky kids are going to be picked on.
Ugly kids are going to be picked on
Poor kids are going to be picked on.
Kids with Braces going to be picked on
Kids with Glasses are going to be picked on
Awkward and Uncoordinated kids are going to be picked on

It is the perseverence through those times that will shape the kids into the people they will become.

Unfortunately, they don't accept what they went through, and try to make sure that it doesn't happen to their children. As a result, children are growing up without any motivation to be more than they are.

Kids that play sports where there is no score kept, or everyone is a winner just for playing.

The gay kid we picked on as a kid grew up to be a famous actor, or a fashion designer, or a musician or a dancer. He may hate how he grew up, but he became a success because he could wait to grow up and be so successful he could leave the peons behind.

The nerdy D&D/computer kid we picked on became an internet millionaire or a computer programmer making 6 figures. He drives a sports car and has a hot asian wife.

The Fat Girl with Braces and Glasses that never got a date and was always teased is now an Attorney will $350 an hour billing. She is incredibly hot. She has a great smile, she got contacts or Lasik surgery. She goes to the gym and you can bounce a quarter off her ass.

The Awkward uncoordinated kid finally grew into his body. He competes in Triathalons. He works out every day and takes Tai-Chi. He has a healthy diet and is in peak physical shape.

The popular girl in school got by on her looks and body and never once used her brain. She is a single mother that drinks too much, smokes too much, and has three kids from at least 2 different fathers. Every man she dates ends up beating her because she is an annoying harpy bitch. She still wears clothes that are made for HS Girls as you can tell by the fact that she is 40 and her clothes say PINK. Her best job was as a receptionist, but that is because she can't make the tips she used to make bartending or working at Hooters

The Jocks and Bullies, for the most part do manual labor, are electricians or plumbers, maybe work in call centers. After the failed out of college and lost their sports scholarship they ended up at the local community college. They were still trying to score HS girls or waitresses.

Now not all of these scenarios are true, but on the whole, the fit a majority of situations.

The trials of your childhood make you who you have become. Only kids that rage against the lot they have been dealt through personal growth have found success. If you laid back and just took it, you deserve what you have become.

It is sad when a kid takes their own life, but it is perseverence through difficult that shapes who you become.
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^^^^^^
THIS
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A tad preachy but yeah....
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Bullying is the new "BUZZ" word.

It has been going on for ages, and it will continue to go on for ages. Sorry, but it is a RITE OF PASSAGE into manhood for most young men.

There was a bully in my neighborhood growing up. Kids eventually stopped playing with him and he became an outcast in our neighborhood. He just continued to bully anyone he caught up with, until eventually he found himself no longer the biggest kid in the neighborhood. Eventually, he started getting his ass beat every time he showed up by kids he had bullied over the years. There were always a few kids he could manage to bully but they usually were protected by their friends.

A bully has two possible outcomes in life. They grow up and apologise to everyone the bullied or they grow up to be complete losers.

Gay kids are going to be picked on.
Fat kids are going to be picked on.
Geeky kids are going to be picked on.
Ugly kids are going to be picked on
Poor kids are going to be picked on.
Kids with Braces going to be picked on
Kids with Glasses are going to be picked on
Awkward and Uncoordinated kids are going to be picked on

It is the perseverence through those times that will shape the kids into the people they will become.

Unfortunately, they don't accept what they went through, and try to make sure that it doesn't happen to their children. As a result, children are growing up without any motivation to be more than they are.

Kids that play sports where there is no score kept, or everyone is a winner just for playing.

The gay kid we picked on as a kid grew up to be a famous actor, or a fashion designer, or a musician or a dancer. He may hate how he grew up, but he became a success because he could wait to grow up and be so successful he could leave the peons behind.

The nerdy D&D/computer kid we picked on became an internet millionaire or a computer programmer making 6 figures. He drives a sports car and has a hot asian wife.

The Fat Girl with Braces and Glasses that never got a date and was always teased is now an Attorney will $350 an hour billing. She is incredibly hot. She has a great smile, she got contacts or Lasik surgery. She goes to the gym and you can bounce a quarter off her ass.

The Awkward uncoordinated kid finally grew into his body. He competes in Triathalons. He works out every day and takes Tai-Chi. He has a healthy diet and is in peak physical shape.

The popular girl in school got by on her looks and body and never once used her brain. She is a single mother that drinks too much, smokes too much, and has three kids from at least 2 different fathers. Every man she dates ends up beating her because she is an annoying harpy bitch. She still wears clothes that are made for HS Girls as you can tell by the fact that she is 40 and her clothes say PINK. Her best job was as a receptionist, but that is because she can't make the tips she used to make bartending or working at Hooters

The Jocks and Bullies, for the most part do manual labor, are electricians or plumbers, maybe work in call centers. After the failed out of college and lost their sports scholarship they ended up at the local community college. They were still trying to score HS girls or waitresses.

Now not all of these scenarios are true, but on the whole, the fit a majority of situations.

The trials of your childhood make you who you have become. Only kids that rage against the lot they have been dealt through personal growth have found success. If you laid back and just took it, you deserve what you have become.

It is sad when a kid takes their own life, but it is perseverence through difficult that shapes who you become.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20795790



Wow AC, that was well put together.
Wish I could give you some Karma for that.
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very sad!!
poor kid!!verysad
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Horrible!



It is what todays' youth are exposed to:

Violence in the Media, Music, Video Games....

Immorality, Porn, Vile Language, dysfunctional homes...


May GOD keep this child in his loving arms and comfort his family...
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and bad medical care , but moderators here only care to pin usseless shit about stupid make up aliens predictions ...

Thread: Warning about Methylprednisolone (Drug of Death)

Not real info that may save lives ....
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A bully has two possible outcomes in life. They grow up and apologise to everyone the bullied or they grow up to be complete losers.

Thoose Bullys I know ended being judges & senators .....

Gay kids are going to be picked on.
Fat kids are going to be picked on.
Geeky kids are going to be picked on.
Ugly kids are going to be picked on
Poor kids are going to be picked on.
Kids with Braces going to be picked on
Kids with Glasses are going to be picked on
Awkward and Uncoordinated kids are going to be picked on


All of the avove better start making life misserable to bullys ... before they make it to the top and its to late ...

They had fucked the world !

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Kids are fucked these days..
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Bullying is the new "BUZZ" word.

It has been going on for ages, and it will continue to go on for ages. Sorry, but it is a RITE OF PASSAGE into manhood for most young men.

There was a bully in my neighborhood growing up. Kids eventually stopped playing with him and he became an outcast in our neighborhood. He just continued to bully anyone he caught up with, until eventually he found himself no longer the biggest kid in the neighborhood. Eventually, he started getting his ass beat every time he showed up by kids he had bullied over the years. There were always a few kids he could manage to bully but they usually were protected by their friends.

A bully has two possible outcomes in life. They grow up and apologise to everyone the bullied or they grow up to be complete losers.

Gay kids are going to be picked on.
Fat kids are going to be picked on.
Geeky kids are going to be picked on.
Ugly kids are going to be picked on
Poor kids are going to be picked on.
Kids with Braces going to be picked on
Kids with Glasses are going to be picked on
Awkward and Uncoordinated kids are going to be picked on

It is the perseverence through those times that will shape the kids into the people they will become.

Unfortunately, they don't accept what they went through, and try to make sure that it doesn't happen to their children. As a result, children are growing up without any motivation to be more than they are.

Kids that play sports where there is no score kept, or everyone is a winner just for playing.

The gay kid we picked on as a kid grew up to be a famous actor, or a fashion designer, or a musician or a dancer. He may hate how he grew up, but he became a success because he could wait to grow up and be so successful he could leave the peons behind.

The nerdy D&D/computer kid we picked on became an internet millionaire or a computer programmer making 6 figures. He drives a sports car and has a hot asian wife.

The Fat Girl with Braces and Glasses that never got a date and was always teased is now an Attorney will $350 an hour billing. She is incredibly hot. She has a great smile, she got contacts or Lasik surgery. She goes to the gym and you can bounce a quarter off her ass.

The Awkward uncoordinated kid finally grew into his body. He competes in Triathalons. He works out every day and takes Tai-Chi. He has a healthy diet and is in peak physical shape.

The popular girl in school got by on her looks and body and never once used her brain. She is a single mother that drinks too much, smokes too much, and has three kids from at least 2 different fathers. Every man she dates ends up beating her because she is an annoying harpy bitch. She still wears clothes that are made for HS Girls as you can tell by the fact that she is 40 and her clothes say PINK. Her best job was as a receptionist, but that is because she can't make the tips she used to make bartending or working at Hooters

The Jocks and Bullies, for the most part do manual labor, are electricians or plumbers, maybe work in call centers. After the failed out of college and lost their sports scholarship they ended up at the local community college. They were still trying to score HS girls or waitresses.

Now not all of these scenarios are true, but on the whole, the fit a majority of situations.

The trials of your childhood make you who you have become. Only kids that rage against the lot they have been dealt through personal growth have found success. If you laid back and just took it, you deserve what you have become.

It is sad when a kid takes their own life, but it is perseverence through difficult that shapes who you become.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20795790


Good observation, it's just human nature & this survival of the fittest attitude. But, bullying is the biggest menace to humanity & our future. If bullying was put a stop to.. those kids would still grow up to be successful or not, but too many are not given the chance to get out of the trauma of bullying. I'm in my late 40s, still having intense traumatic flash-backs & nightmares to this day, affecting my happiness & day to day life, even been seeing a psychologist to discuss it with. She's looks & sounds exactly like Kate Middleton, one of the best in the country apparently, but she has helped me take the edge off my trauma a little bit. I was severely bullied, mentally and physically every single day, just because I had a hare-lip cleft & speech problems. I was very alone at school, both at comprehensive & boarding school, with daily beatings from bigger & older lads, & girls teasing me over my mouth with horrific words, getting lads to beat me up in front of them. Teachers were violent too, getting full on thumps in the stomach, even tied to a scaffolding pole & beaten. I took a lot of time off school, partly for medical treatment for my mouth, but also for having repeat treatment to repair the damage done to my mouth every time I was kicked & thumped in the head. The teachers were evil bastards.. but the girls were the worst with their nasty words. I usually used my arms to protect my face, but just kick out or roll into a ball, or run like hell. The teachers not only didn't stop fights, but even supervised fights after school in the playground or car park. When I complained about being bullied I was accused of complaining. I did attempt suicide both at home & school more than once.. but it phased no-one, got no sympathy or support from anyone. My mother was a violent bully to me too, so got it at home too, as well as to & from school.
I left school not being able to form friendships, relationships, belief a word anyone said, trusted or relied or anyone for anything, with 'fighting' parents wasting my teenage years with moving around from place to place, in the UK & Ireland, & having lots of major operations, so couldn't work much too, just working as a builder with my Dad mostly, learning new skills. Since then I've done courses & work in computer maintenance, electronics, video production/editing, but am happy now running my own van doing my own courier business. Got my own 1 bed apartment in central London, great view of the Shard & the London wheel etc.. but just lonely.. need a woman.. who can even be part of the business too. I think meeting a woman would make those horrible traumatic memories go away too. London is a lonely place though.. which is why I'll probably move down the coast around Brighton.. it's 'lovely' down there, with friendly people! I wish Londoners were more friendly.

Anyway, the Government, local councils & child protection groups should make it a number ONE priority to outlaw bullying altogether in schools. I went to the Christian Brothers school in Ireland for 2 years, everyone was my best friend.. never got bullied or called names once ever.

I've heard some of the bullies who left me traumatised & suicidal, have either died in fights or were killed in the army, killed racing drunk on a motorbike in a 30mph speed limit, got jailed for crimes.. inc: peedo bullying (one molested his own kids.., only got 3 yrs! sick!), the others in miserable dead end jobs, out of work with kids.

Mentally I'm ok now, not taking it personally anymore.. but I'm trying my best to forgive the bullies, wishing them love instead of revenge, but it's an emotional roller coaster from suicidal thoughts to fuck it get over it.. I survived! I feel sadness for victims of bullies though.

I just want anyone in power to read this thread.. cos bullying 'has to STOP!' if we're ever.. gonna have peace in the future. Bullies should be put in sin bin, educated on the consequences of bullying. Corporal punishment should be back in schools.. but not like the old system.. where I'd see & be the victim of verbal & physical abuse.. but a 'qualified' teacher with a license to dish out physical punishment when needed, so the punishment is recorded.. so that no teacher abuse can take place.

I feel for this kid, cos I was suicidal at school a lot.. but obviously we don't have access to guns like you Americans. The most I could muster was an overdose, electrocuting or cutting myself. It's only when I refused to eat or drink for several days the bullies backed off then, esp: when the girls intervened to stop, telling me to eat again with promises of being nice, but it didn't last.

BULLYING HAS TO BE STOPPED! to save future generations from making the world a nasty place to live in. We need LOVE..!

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Bullying is the new "BUZZ" word.

It has been going on for ages, and it will continue to go on for ages. Sorry, but it is a RITE OF PASSAGE into manhood for most young men.

There was a bully in my neighborhood growing up. Kids eventually stopped playing with him and he became an outcast in our neighborhood. He just continued to bully anyone he caught up with, until eventually he found himself no longer the biggest kid in the neighborhood. Eventually, he started getting his ass beat every time he showed up by kids he had bullied over the years. There were always a few kids he could manage to bully but they usually were protected by their friends.

A bully has two possible outcomes in life. They grow up and apologise to everyone the bullied or they grow up to be complete losers.

Gay kids are going to be picked on.
Fat kids are going to be picked on.
Geeky kids are going to be picked on.
Ugly kids are going to be picked on
Poor kids are going to be picked on.
Kids with Braces going to be picked on
Kids with Glasses are going to be picked on
Awkward and Uncoordinated kids are going to be picked on

It is the perseverence through those times that will shape the kids into the people they will become.

Unfortunately, they don't accept what they went through, and try to make sure that it doesn't happen to their children. As a result, children are growing up without any motivation to be more than they are.

Kids that play sports where there is no score kept, or everyone is a winner just for playing.

The gay kid we picked on as a kid grew up to be a famous actor, or a fashion designer, or a musician or a dancer. He may hate how he grew up, but he became a success because he could wait to grow up and be so successful he could leave the peons behind.

The nerdy D&D/computer kid we picked on became an internet millionaire or a computer programmer making 6 figures. He drives a sports car and has a hot asian wife.

The Fat Girl with Braces and Glasses that never got a date and was always teased is now an Attorney will $350 an hour billing. She is incredibly hot. She has a great smile, she got contacts or Lasik surgery. She goes to the gym and you can bounce a quarter off her ass.

The Awkward uncoordinated kid finally grew into his body. He competes in Triathalons. He works out every day and takes Tai-Chi. He has a healthy diet and is in peak physical shape.

The popular girl in school got by on her looks and body and never once used her brain. She is a single mother that drinks too much, smokes too much, and has three kids from at least 2 different fathers. Every man she dates ends up beating her because she is an annoying harpy bitch. She still wears clothes that are made for HS Girls as you can tell by the fact that she is 40 and her clothes say PINK. Her best job was as a receptionist, but that is because she can't make the tips she used to make bartending or working at Hooters

The Jocks and Bullies, for the most part do manual labor, are electricians or plumbers, maybe work in call centers. After the failed out of college and lost their sports scholarship they ended up at the local community college. They were still trying to score HS girls or waitresses.

Now not all of these scenarios are true, but on the whole, the fit a majority of situations.

The trials of your childhood make you who you have become. Only kids that rage against the lot they have been dealt through personal growth have found success. If you laid back and just took it, you deserve what you have become.

It is sad when a kid takes their own life, but it is perseverence through difficult that shapes who you become.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20795790

Bullshit. Most kids that are seriously bullied end up with PTSD, self harm, or become abusers themselves. Stfu with this stereotyping crap, it's bullshit and lacks real insight. Anyone who thinks kids just need to toughen up to overcome bullying is a bully themselves. ALL humans have different internal capacities for coping, don't lay your toughen up bullshit on others that have been truely affected by bullying. It's shit like this attitude that lets us accept this and maintains the fucking status quo
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Bullshit. Most kids that are seriously bullied end up with PTSD, self harm, or become abusers themselves. Stfu with this stereotyping crap, it's bullshit and lacks real insight. Anyone who thinks kids just need to toughen up to overcome bullying is a bully themselves. ALL humans have different internal capacities for coping, don't lay your toughen up bullshit on others that have been truely affected by bullying. It's shit like this attitude that lets us accept this and maintains the fucking status quo
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Of course it does screams the liberal pussy. Keep believing the social manipulation that nurture makes you who you are.

I love this argument. Liberals will yell and scream that people are a product of their environment and not born that way...until they talk about the gays who have no choice because they are born that way.

NO!. Show me the studies. Show me the proof. Maybe in the everybody is a winner world of today where it is easy to blame all your problems on anything and everything but yourself and people believe you, but it is a lie.

I was bullied. I do not have nightmares. I do not beat women. I do not beat children. I am not abusive.

As for the status quo. I am completely sure you despise the status quo. You probably want to blame someone for all your problems.

I blame bullies. I blame the elite. I blame the jews. I blame the blacks.I blame the whites. I blame the republicans. I blame the democrats. I blame the Arabs. I blame the I blame the Corporations. I blame the bankers. I blame the media I blame the government. I blame the feminist. I blame the religious. I blame the atheist. The only person you refuse to blame is yourself.

When you oversleep and show up late to work, is it the fault of all the idiots that caused traffic? Or yours for not giving yourself enough time to get to work? God forbid you arrive at work 15 minutes early.

When a girl rejects you for a man ahe finds more attractive it's because she is a slut, or a whore, or wants him for his money, not because you play 6 hours of Halo everyday and won't watch chick-flicks with her is it?

When you are in debt it's because the banksters forced you to buy a large screen TV, and a new smart phone every 6 months, and a house you couldn't afford with no money down, and went out to eat 2x per week and bought a $4 coffee 2x per day. It was the evil banksters, not your reckless I entitled attitude...right?

It is people like you that ruin the world. Not bullies.

There is a poster before you that got the shit beat out of him for having a hairlip. Guess what. Him, I feel sorry for, because that is fucked up to pick on kids with a physical deformity. I feel bad because it sounds like every time he tried to get it fixed he would get fucked up and it would ruin the repair work. That is awful, and I feel bad for him, but he is an adult now, and he should not be still clinging to the terrors of his past. He will never move forward until he can escape his self imprisionment.

When I was young it was sticks and stones will break my bones by names will never hurt me. Now name calling is bullying too.

It is people like you that ruin the world. Not bullies.
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Bullshit. Most kids that are seriously bullied end up with PTSD, self harm, or become abusers themselves. Stfu with this stereotyping crap, it's bullshit and lacks real insight. Anyone who thinks kids just need to toughen up to overcome bullying is a bully themselves. ALL humans have different internal capacities for coping, don't lay your toughen up bullshit on others that have been truely affected by bullying. It's shit like this attitude that lets us accept this and maintains the fucking status quo
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Of course it does screams the liberal pussy. Keep believing the social manipulation that nurture makes you who you are.

I love this argument. Liberals will yell and scream that people are a product of their environment and not born that way...until they talk about the gays who have no choice because they are born that way.

NO!. Show me the studies. Show me the proof. Maybe in the everybody is a winner world of today where it is easy to blame all your problems on anything and everything but yourself and people believe you, but it is a lie.

I was bullied. I do not have nightmares. I do not beat women. I do not beat children. I am not abusive.

As for the status quo. I am completely sure you despise the status quo. You probably want to blame someone for all your problems.

I blame bullies. I blame the elite. I blame the jews. I blame the blacks.I blame the whites. I blame the republicans. I blame the democrats. I blame the Arabs. I blame the I blame the Corporations. I blame the bankers. I blame the media I blame the government. I blame the feminist. I blame the religious. I blame the atheist. The only person you refuse to blame is yourself.

When you oversleep and show up late to work, is it the fault of all the idiots that caused traffic? Or yours for not giving yourself enough time to get to work? God forbid you arrive at work 15 minutes early.

When a girl rejects you for a man ahe finds more attractive it's because she is a slut, or a whore, or wants him for his money, not because you play 6 hours of Halo everyday and won't watch chick-flicks with her is it?

When you are in debt it's because the banksters forced you to buy a large screen TV, and a new smart phone every 6 months, and a house you couldn't afford with no money down, and went out to eat 2x per week and bought a $4 coffee 2x per day. It was the evil banksters, not your reckless I entitled attitude...right?

It is people like you that ruin the world. Not bullies.

There is a poster before you that got the shit beat out of him for having a hairlip. Guess what. Him, I feel sorry for, because that is fucked up to pick on kids with a physical deformity. I feel bad because it sounds like every time he tried to get it fixed he would get fucked up and it would ruin the repair work. That is awful, and I feel bad for him, but he is an adult now, and he should not be still clinging to the terrors of his past. He will never move forward until he can escape his self imprisionment.

When I was young it was sticks and stones will break my bones by names will never hurt me. Now name calling is bullying too.

It is people like you that ruin the world. Not bullies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20795790


WTF does behaving irresponsibly have to do with other people being assholes?

The whole thing about bullying leading to success is total BS.

There is no need to stop bullying though, it is preparation for the rest of life.
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EFFIN WRONG....

A 14-year-old junior high school student in Utah committed suicide by shooting himself in the head in front of a group of classmates Thursday.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

You know what??? DEATH TO BULLIES
 Quoting: Divinityz


Another case where the School and local Government are to blame for this kids death, putting their sallerys before morals.

Bullies get one chance and then permanent expulsion end of.

TEACHERS, you are the epitome of the system they promote and love so much.

And to the poster that is saying kids have no respect anymore, iv herd TEACHERS fing and blinding in front of students.

Feminist scum bags.
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I was bullied in New Zealand for 6 years,
after arriving at age 10 from Australia.

It was pure hell everyday.

I ended up stabbing a bully 9 times with a knife.


Way to go! No regrets I hope. Fuck 'em.





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The severity and the duration of the bullying makes a great difference in the outcome of the victim. Also, for the victim is the realization that no one gives a shit, from fellow classmates to the administration, the feeling helplessness and being alone can be stultifying. There is no hope and no hero coming to the rescue. The damage to self esteem and belief in oneself is shot to hell and that is a deficit that can fuck up ones future potential in career and marriage.
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Can't say that in school anymore.

Isn't it great?
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the bullying hype is all NWO agenda.
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Its NOT hype, its a reality that students face on a daily basis.

One of my daughters friends gets bullied on a daily basis. The principal & the school cop don't do anything about it.

I was bullied from my first day of Kindergarten thru my senior year of high school. If it turned physical & I defended myself, I was the one who got sent to the principals office not the perpetrators.

I see bullying as a result that no one is home when kids get out of school or to see them off to school in the morning. (it's called family time)
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If it's such a big deal, what have YOU done about it? Goddamned people and their holier-than-thou armchair sociologist BS. You're as much a part of the problem if you aren't offering a solution.
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Bullying needs to be stopped at all cost. Politically correct or not.
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Kids are not taught any Respect

Not for there Parents
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Not even themselves...
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It is purposeful for a future scenario. Until people get that, it will continue.
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Answering your questions...


Yeah so from age 10, being bullied for 6 years,
at age 17 I just had enough and stabbed a bully 9 times.

He had a reputation for bashing people.
And I had never hurt anyone in my life.
So in court the judge was harsh to the bully.

But, the police said I was a few millimetres away from killing the bully. And I could have ended up in a juvenile prison for 7 years. And there I would have got worse bullying from the scum of scum.

So my advice, learn martial arts, do weight training,
and use humour too. And talk to as many people as possible.

I tried to tell my parents and the teachers,
but in those days they thought it was normal.
(1975 - 1981)

But the kids spitting on me with green spit
and the psychological mind bending pain
was hell from age 10 - 16. (17)
And worse than the kicks and punches.

And here is the funny true part...

I survived just to find out the truth...

The Milky Way Galaxy is a busy place with more species of extraterrestrials than you would believe.
And yes, there are wars and bullying happening
OUT THERE.

100% true.
I've done my homework about it all
everyday often for 18 hours a day
since 1996. (And before)




Bless you all. Keep strong.
Help build very large community centers everywhere.
Keep the Internet.
Keep in Contact.
Get Smart.
Love.



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Because the only solution they can ever offer is that Bullying needs to end. And there should be harsh punishment for bullies.

The people that complain about bullying were no doubt bullied themselves, but unlike everyone else who survived it and moved on with life, they are traumatized and can't seem to get over something that they went through years ago.

This was the answer when I was growing up.

ME: Dad. I am being picked on at school and on the playground.

DAD: Come in the garage I'll teach you how to fight. Just don't tell your mom.

ME: Okay.

Maybe I got beat up a few more times, but eventually I won the fight. Hey. A black eye is a good explanation for why the kid had a concusion from a stick upside the head. And 5 years later beating the kids ass a second time for mouthing off at me felt just as good. And having him come to my house to clean out my septic tank 12 years later was even better.
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Instead of making bullying a crime how about those who are getting bullied man up and learn how to beat the shit out of the bully, with or without the aid of non-lethal weaponary. All this nonce shit about "come to the principal or police first".. what ever happened to just kicking ass and then the people in power using some fucking discretion and letting the bullied go without punishment for standing up for himself.
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EFFIN WRONG....

A 14-year-old junior high school student in Utah committed suicide by shooting himself in the head in front of a group of classmates Thursday.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

You know what??? DEATH TO BULLIES
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The individual self-selected out of the gene pool.

Humans are stronger because of this.
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Pussy just eradicated his own gene pool. Syonara sucker. Shoulda took out the little demon bastards that were fuckin with you.
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the bullying hype is all NWO agenda.
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It's not hype, it's an epidemic.
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Turns out he was a big pussy...bulling happens in your entire life...sometimes you need to make a stand
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Bullying is the new "BUZZ" word.

It has been going on for ages, and it will continue to go on for ages. Sorry, but it is a RITE OF PASSAGE into manhood for most young men.

There was a bully in my neighborhood growing up. Kids eventually stopped playing with him and he became an outcast in our neighborhood. He just continued to bully anyone he caught up with, until eventually he found himself no longer the biggest kid in the neighborhood. Eventually, he started getting his ass beat every time he showed up by kids he had bullied over the years. There were always a few kids he could manage to bully but they usually were protected by their friends.

A bully has two possible outcomes in life. They grow up and apologise to everyone the bullied or they grow up to be complete losers.

Gay kids are going to be picked on.
Fat kids are going to be picked on.
Geeky kids are going to be picked on.
Ugly kids are going to be picked on
Poor kids are going to be picked on.
Kids with Braces going to be picked on
Kids with Glasses are going to be picked on
Awkward and Uncoordinated kids are going to be picked on

It is the perseverence through those times that will shape the kids into the people they will become.

Unfortunately, they don't accept what they went through, and try to make sure that it doesn't happen to their children. As a result, children are growing up without any motivation to be more than they are.

Kids that play sports where there is no score kept, or everyone is a winner just for playing.

The gay kid we picked on as a kid grew up to be a famous actor, or a fashion designer, or a musician or a dancer. He may hate how he grew up, but he became a success because he could wait to grow up and be so successful he could leave the peons behind.

The nerdy D&D/computer kid we picked on became an internet millionaire or a computer programmer making 6 figures. He drives a sports car and has a hot asian wife.

The Fat Girl with Braces and Glasses that never got a date and was always teased is now an Attorney will $350 an hour billing. She is incredibly hot. She has a great smile, she got contacts or Lasik surgery. She goes to the gym and you can bounce a quarter off her ass.

The Awkward uncoordinated kid finally grew into his body. He competes in Triathalons. He works out every day and takes Tai-Chi. He has a healthy diet and is in peak physical shape.

The popular girl in school got by on her looks and body and never once used her brain. She is a single mother that drinks too much, smokes too much, and has three kids from at least 2 different fathers. Every man she dates ends up beating her because she is an annoying harpy bitch. She still wears clothes that are made for HS Girls as you can tell by the fact that she is 40 and her clothes say PINK. Her best job was as a receptionist, but that is because she can't make the tips she used to make bartending or working at Hooters

The Jocks and Bullies, for the most part do manual labor, are electricians or plumbers, maybe work in call centers. After the failed out of college and lost their sports scholarship they ended up at the local community college. They were still trying to score HS girls or waitresses.

Now not all of these scenarios are true, but on the whole, the fit a majority of situations.

The trials of your childhood make you who you have become. Only kids that rage against the lot they have been dealt through personal growth have found success. If you laid back and just took it, you deserve what you have become.

It is sad when a kid takes their own life, but it is perseverence through difficult that shapes who you become.
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Bullshit. Most kids that are seriously bullied end up with PTSD, self harm, or become abusers themselves. Stfu with this stereotyping crap, it's bullshit and lacks real insight. Anyone who thinks kids just need to toughen up to overcome bullying is a bully themselves. ALL humans have different internal capacities for coping, don't lay your toughen up bullshit on others that have been truely affected by bullying. It's shit like this attitude that lets us accept this and maintains the fucking status quo
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This may seem like an insensitive and uncomfortable question, but if the kid had a gun, why didn't he go postal on the bullies?

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the bullying hype is all NWO agenda.
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This.^ Who was the kid's parents? Astrophyscist, military, big ___ (oil, pharm, bank... pick one)?
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It's worse now with social media because now instead of just being confined to school, the bullies often go public with their insults.

Public humiliation is often what tips the scale toward total devastation of lives.
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Instead of making bullying a crime how about those who are getting bullied man up and learn how to beat the shit out of the bully, with or without the aid of non-lethal weaponary. All this nonce shit about "come to the principal or police first".. what ever happened to just kicking ass and then the people in power using some fucking discretion and letting the bullied go without punishment for standing up for himself.
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The principals are often on board with the bullies. Often bullies are "popular" and get good grades. Their targets usually suffer a dramatic decline in academic progress, as they attempt to process what is being done to them.

Often the bully spend three months grooming the target, and most especially authority figures, in order to destroy any future support the target would have gotten. The bully "befriends" the target, but is all the while conning the adults or whoever is in charge, into believing that HE/SHe is being bullied.

They get their cowardly friends to lie and collude with the bullying. It is horrible.

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