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Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"

 
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Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
I know next to nothing about UK politics. Is this the UK version of the US Tea Party movement?
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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
[link to www.ukip.org]

There are on the march and will form a government...................................................​.............................................................​.............................................................​.....sometime.


Unfortunately probably not in mine or your liftime.

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I know next to nothing about UK politics. Is this the UK version of the US Tea Party movement?
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Sort of. UKIP wants the UK out of the EU, which is why I support it.

It also wants to put restraints on immigration, and is therefore, of course, a "racist" party.

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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
UKIP's main policy is to have a referendum on Britain's membership of the European Union.

UKIP is STRONGLY in favour of Britain withdrawing from the Union which it considers an overbearing expensive bureaucracy run by unelected control freaks who will do absolutely anything to keep the Euro project going, even if that means people in Greece having to suffer years of grinding poverty to pay back loans lent to it by the European Central Bank.


While the youth of southern Europe face unemployment rates of over 50 percent, the Eurocrats at last weeks budget meeting treated themselves to fine champagne worth £121 a bottle.


Nigel Farage, the leader of UKIP is becoming a national hero, the only politician with the balls to stand up in the European parliament and tell them they are leading Europe to the brink of social collapse.


They smile smugly and take their generous salaries, paid for by flat broke European citizens who DID NOT VOTE FOR THEM.
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Plus Nigel tells it, the way it is.
Just Like Ron Paul.

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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
UKIP's main policy is to have a referendum on Britain's membership of the European Union.

UKIP is STRONGLY in favour of Britain withdrawing from the Union which it considers an overbearing expensive bureaucracy run by unelected control freaks who will do absolutely anything to keep the Euro project going, even if that means people in Greece having to suffer years of grinding poverty to pay back loans lent to it by the European Central Bank.


While the youth of southern Europe face unemployment rates of over 50 percent, the Eurocrats at last weeks budget meeting treated themselves to fine champagne worth £121 a bottle.


Nigel Farage, the leader of UKIP is becoming a national hero, the only politician with the balls to stand up in the European parliament and tell them they are leading Europe to the brink of social collapse.


They smile smugly and take their generous salaries, paid for by flat broke European citizens who DID NOT VOTE FOR THEM.
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And who pays Nigel?

He like the rest of them are rich enough to do the job for free if they care that much, just get paid expenses if it means that much hell they can afford it....

He is in no way a national hero, he got rich as a trader, now gets even richer as a shouter, controlled opposition.
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Yeah Nigel Farage seems very much like their Ron Paul. He's quite passionate and eloquent. I think the analogy to the Taxed Enough Already party is a good one. Their socialist opponents, which as far as I can tell is everyone else in their government, paints them as racist even though it's unfounded, just like our Tea Party.
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And who pays Nigel?

He like the rest of them are rich enough to do the job for free if they care that much, just get paid expenses if it means that much hell they can afford it....

He is in no way a national hero, he got rich as a trader, now gets even richer as a shouter, controlled opposition.
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Your an idiot.

In a free and democratic political system you have to be a part of it, in order to oppose it.

Sure he is an MEP, but that is because he can talk and lead the many other independence parties in the European parliament.

How else is he suppose to do it.

Who else do you see in British politics trying to get their own job in Europe destroyed.

A vast number of MP's in Britain now see the European parliament gravy train as their next stepping stone after Westminster and this now has to stop.

I have voter UKIP for years since they were formed and it now seems that the rolling stone is gathering speed.
I think the Con's and labour had better watch out, the two party system is about to collapse.

hfhfhf
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Nige is the only hope we've got, therefore he is "Da Man".

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Yeah Nigel Farage seems very much like their Ron Paul. He's quite passionate and eloquent. I think the analogy to the Taxed Enough Already party is a good one. Their socialist opponents, which as far as I can tell is everyone else in their government, paints them as racist even though it's unfounded, just like our Tea Party.
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Anyone passionate about the future of their country is always branded racist.

It just an cheap shop by their opponents.

hfhfhf
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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
And who pays Nigel?

He like the rest of them are rich enough to do the job for free if they care that much, just get paid expenses if it means that much hell they can afford it....

He is in no way a national hero, he got rich as a trader, now gets even richer as a shouter, controlled opposition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645124


One thing about British politics, the public face of it at least, is the shouting. Never quite understood why. I chalked it up to the wigs, just something ya'll do, so to speak. We have spirited debates and sometimes there's fisticuffs on the floor even but the choreographed shouting that goes on in England does almost ring like badly acted theatre, doesn't it?
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Nigel is not on his own in Europe, he is assisted by others who can get the message over as well.

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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
And who pays Nigel?

He like the rest of them are rich enough to do the job for free if they care that much, just get paid expenses if it means that much hell they can afford it....

He is in no way a national hero, he got rich as a trader, now gets even richer as a shouter, controlled opposition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645124


Your an idiot.

In a free and democratic political system you have to be a part of it, in order to oppose it.

Sure he is an MEP, but that is because he can talk and lead the many other independence parties in the European parliament.

How else is he suppose to do it.

Who else do you see in British politics trying to get their own job in Europe destroyed.

A vast number of MP's in Britain now see the European parliament gravy train as their next stepping stone after Westminster and this now has to stop.

I have voter UKIP for years since they were formed and it now seems that the rolling stone is gathering speed.
I think the Con's and labour had better watch out, the two party system is about to collapse.

hfhfhf
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Who you calling an idiot you fuckbag.


Go fuck yourself.

Voting is for stupid dicks who think they will change anything, show me one mp one mep who is not rich, who does not outright own their own home, who did not have a private education, show me one who fucking struggles, they do not represent the people the real fucking people, they are detached from the struggles that not having money brings, detached from real people so they don't represent them, you who have voted, I bet you own your own house right! or plan to right! How the fuck can we own land! who do I pay the universe!

I want to watch the whole fucking system crash not just the two party bullshit, you fucking nicompoop, Farage is a stooge, controlled opposition, someone for the downtrodden to fall behind.

Call me a fucking idiot.
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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
One thing about British politics, the public face of it at least, is the shouting. Never quite understood why. I chalked it up to the wigs, just something ya'll do, so to speak. We have spirited debates and sometimes there's fisticuffs on the floor even but the choreographed shouting that goes on in England does almost ring like badly acted theatre, doesn't it?
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Don't get confused here.
Nigel Farage is an MEP, (Member of the European Parliament), which sits in the European Parliament at Strasbourg.

The House of Commons is the Parliament of the UK which is in London.

Kinda like the difference between your state Senate and the House of Representatives

hfhfhf
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Who you calling an idiot you fuckbag.
Go fuck yourself.

Voting is for stupid dicks who think they will change anything, show me one mp one mep who is not rich, who does not outright own their own home, who did not have a private education, show me one who fucking struggles, they do not represent the people the real fucking people, they are detached from the struggles that not having money brings, detached from real people so they don't represent them, you who have voted, I bet you own your own house right! or plan to right! How the fuck can we own land! who do I pay the universe!

I want to watch the whole fucking system crash not just the two party bullshit, you fucking nicompoop, Farage is a stooge, controlled opposition, someone for the downtrodden to fall behind.

Call me a fucking idiot.
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I don't think I need to, you obviously already know you are.

hfhfhf
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Yeah Nigel Farage seems very much like their Ron Paul. He's quite passionate and eloquent. I think the analogy to the Taxed Enough Already party is a good one. Their socialist opponents, which as far as I can tell is everyone else in their government, paints them as racist even though it's unfounded, just like our Tea Party.
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Farage is no Ron Paul. He would never approach criticising fiat finance the way Paul does with the Fed Reserve.

UKIP is the establishment-approved approximation to nationalism that stops people becoming racially loyal and tells Whites to give it up.
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those pesky polish are stealing all of the e.u. (900 TRILLION euros and counting). they are officially the most powerful country on earth with a military outweighing america's 500 times over.

it's a misnomer to call poland a super power, it's in fact a super duper power.
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those pesky polish are stealing all of the e.u. (900 TRILLION euros and counting). they are officially the most powerful country on earth with a military outweighing america's 500 times over.

it's a misnomer to call poland a super power, it's in fact a super duper power.
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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
those pesky polish are stealing all of the e.u. (900 TRILLION euros and counting). they are officially the most powerful country on earth with a military outweighing america's 500 times over.

it's a misnomer to call poland a super power, it's in fact a super duper power.
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What this got to do with UKIP?
Keep it on topic will you.....rant
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Who you calling an idiot you fuckbag.
Go fuck yourself.

Voting is for stupid dicks who think they will change anything, show me one mp one mep who is not rich, who does not outright own their own home, who did not have a private education, show me one who fucking struggles, they do not represent the people the real fucking people, they are detached from the struggles that not having money brings, detached from real people so they don't represent them, you who have voted, I bet you own your own house right! or plan to right! How the fuck can we own land! who do I pay the universe!

I want to watch the whole fucking system crash not just the two party bullshit, you fucking nicompoop, Farage is a stooge, controlled opposition, someone for the downtrodden to fall behind.

Call me a fucking idiot.
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I don't think I need to, you obviously already know you are.

hfhfhf
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Twice I baited you with the controlled opposition and twice you ignored it.

Tells me all I need to know about who is the idiot here fuckhead.

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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
those pesky polish are stealing all of the e.u. (900 TRILLION euros and counting). they are officially the most powerful country on earth with a military outweighing america's 500 times over.

it's a misnomer to call poland a super power, it's in fact a super duper power.
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What this got to do with UKIP?
Keep it on topic will you.....rant
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because now poland has regained it's financial and military superiority, those polish nazi bastards will invade germany just as they did in 1939. then they will invade and nazify every country -- including you america.

wake up.
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And who pays Nigel?

He like the rest of them are rich enough to do the job for free if they care that much, just get paid expenses if it means that much hell they can afford it....

He is in no way a national hero, he got rich as a trader, now gets even richer as a shouter, controlled opposition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645124


Your an idiot.

In a free and democratic political system you have to be a part of it, in order to oppose it.

Sure he is an MEP, but that is because he can talk and lead the many other independence parties in the European parliament.

How else is he suppose to do it.

Who else do you see in British politics trying to get their own job in Europe destroyed.

A vast number of MP's in Britain now see the European parliament gravy train as their next stepping stone after Westminster and this now has to stop.

I have voter UKIP for years since they were formed and it now seems that the rolling stone is gathering speed.
I think the Con's and labour had better watch out, the two party system is about to collapse.

hfhfhf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28837065


Who you calling an idiot you fuckbag.


Go fuck yourself.

Voting is for stupid dicks who think they will change anything, show me one mp one mep who is not rich, who does not outright own their own home, who did not have a private education, show me one who fucking struggles, they do not represent the people the real fucking people, they are detached from the struggles that not having money brings, detached from real people so they don't represent them, you who have voted, I bet you own your own house right! or plan to right! How the fuck can we own land! who do I pay the universe!

I want to watch the whole fucking system crash not just the two party bullshit, you fucking nicompoop, Farage is a stooge, controlled opposition, someone for the downtrodden to fall behind.

Call me a fucking idiot.
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You're right he shouldn't call you an idiot. You're clearly a complete braindead fucking moran.
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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
because now poland has regained it's financial and military superiority, those polish nazi bastards will invade germany just as they did in 1939. then they will invade and nazify every country -- including you america.

wake up.
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I'm thinking here, that a couple of pages in your history book got stuck together when you were reading about the outbreak of WWII.

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And who pays Nigel?

He like the rest of them are rich enough to do the job for free if they care that much, just get paid expenses if it means that much hell they can afford it....

He is in no way a national hero, he got rich as a trader, now gets even richer as a shouter, controlled opposition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645124


Your an idiot.

In a free and democratic political system you have to be a part of it, in order to oppose it.

Sure he is an MEP, but that is because he can talk and lead the many other independence parties in the European parliament.

How else is he suppose to do it.

Who else do you see in British politics trying to get their own job in Europe destroyed.

A vast number of MP's in Britain now see the European parliament gravy train as their next stepping stone after Westminster and this now has to stop.

I have voter UKIP for years since they were formed and it now seems that the rolling stone is gathering speed.
I think the Con's and labour had better watch out, the two party system is about to collapse.

hfhfhf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28837065


Who you calling an idiot you fuckbag.


Go fuck yourself.

Voting is for stupid dicks who think they will change anything, show me one mp one mep who is not rich, who does not outright own their own home, who did not have a private education, show me one who fucking struggles, they do not represent the people the real fucking people, they are detached from the struggles that not having money brings, detached from real people so they don't represent them, you who have voted, I bet you own your own house right! or plan to right! How the fuck can we own land! who do I pay the universe!

I want to watch the whole fucking system crash not just the two party bullshit, you fucking nicompoop, Farage is a stooge, controlled opposition, someone for the downtrodden to fall behind.

Call me a fucking idiot.
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In a certain way I relate to what you are talking about. US politicians are for the most part rich and cannot identify with the average person. Senators are the worst. Look at John Kerry. The guy turns my stomach. In any event, I hope UKIP and the Tea Party succeed. The world needs them to.
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I know next to nothing about UK politics. Is this the UK version of the US Tea Party movement?
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Sort of. UKIP wants the UK out of the EU, which is why I support it.

It also wants to put restraints on immigration, and is therefore, of course, a "racist" party.

cruise
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I am amazed at how a simple word like racist can wield so much power.Whole countries will idly stand by as there homelands are overrun by hordes of non-conformist,ungrateful Muslims and nobody says anything for fear of being called a racist.Somebodies ran a very successful psy ops on the public over there.My golden rule is this,look at these people crying racism,and look at how they treat outsiders in the country they came from,chances are they are doing things to foreigners over there that are far worse than anything they have ever experienced in the country that they immigrated to.Like here in the USA, the Mexican govt. constantly complains about not letting illegals come and go as they please,they want a open border with the USA,but if you`re in Mexico illegally, they will throw you in prison for 2 years. So what im saying is fuck em.take the power away from them and embrace that word.Tell em "that`s right i am racist and you made me that way."
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UKIP is like BNP lite.
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they say some good things,but i have my doubts,

probably another party put in place,just in case the people start leaving the main parties.a safety net party for the elites.
i'm pretty sure they are controlled by TPTB.
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Re: Hey Brits, what is the deal with the "UK Independence Party"
because now poland has regained it's financial and military superiority, those polish nazi bastards will invade germany just as they did in 1939. then they will invade and nazify every country -- including you america.

wake up.
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I'm thinking here, that a couple of pages in your history book got stuck together when you were reading about the outbreak of WWII.

1rof11rof11rof1
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i'm a history teacher at a high achieving northern comprehensive high school with an annual exam pass rate of 99.9%.

i teach the official version of ww2 -- the version my grandfather taught me.

like 9/11, ww2 is a monument lie. carry out the research and you will find that National Socialist Polish Workers' Tea Party was formed in warsaw in 1901.

if you're going to argue facts, make sure you first have them, or end up red faced.
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they say some good things,but i have my doubts,

probably another party put in place,just in case the people start leaving the main parties.a safety net party for the elites.
i'm pretty sure they are controlled by TPTB.
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That's exactly what the main two parties want you to think.

Hundreds of years of conditioning make people vote for the "least worst" of the two parties.

When a real alternative comes along people are conditioned to not accept the choice and fall back to their "programming" which keep the two main parties going.

Sad but true.

another do
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controlled opposition.
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22% in Rotherham!

SUCK IT!
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UKIP is like BNP lite.
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