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Name a group (any 2 or more individuals) who shares the most accurate and honest description of reality and life in this universe.

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Last Edited by halman on 12/06/2012 07:57 AM
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Tao
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Tao
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Tao or Dao or is a Chinese word meaning 'way', 'path', 'route', or sometimes more loosely, 'doctrine' or 'principle'. Within the context of traditional Chinese philosophy and religion, Tao is a metaphysical concept originating with Laozi that gave rise to a religion (Wade–Giles, Tao Chiao; Pinyin, Daojiao) and philosophy (Wade–Giles, Tao chia; Pinyin, Daojia) referred to in English with the single term Taoism. The concept of Tao was later adopted in Confucianism, Chán and Zen Buddhism and more broadly throughout East Asian philosophy and religion in general. Within these contexts Tao signifies the primordial essence or fundamental nature of the universe. In the foundational text of Taoism, the Tao Te Ching, Laozi explains that Tao is not a 'name' for a 'thing' but the underlying natural order of the universe whose ultimate essence is difficult to circumscribe. Tao is thus "eternally nameless” (Dao De Jing-32. Laozi) and to be distinguished from the countless 'named' things which are considered to be its manifestations.
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I like the all encompassing nature of Taoism. And the fact that it has become so much more popular in the Western World over the past few decades. Plus it does not employ a definitive kind of philosophy like you find with so many other shared belief systems. thumbs


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"And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick

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Name a group (any 2 or more individuals) who shares the most accurate and honest description of reality and life in this universe.

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Neil deGrasse Tyson.
[link to www.haydenplanetarium.org]
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Father Lord God All Powerful, and my brother Jesus Christ.
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Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson claims the title "scientist" above all other "ists." And yet, he says he is "constantly claimed by atheists." So where does he stand? "Neil deGrasse, widely claimed by atheists, is actually an agnostic."
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Thread: GOOD VIDEO CLIP-Neil deGrasse Tyson: Atheist or Agnostic?

Name a group (any 2 or more individuals) who shares the most accurate and honest description of reality and life in this universe.

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Neil deGrasse Tyson.
[link to www.haydenplanetarium.org]
 Quoting: *Aurora*


You know, I really didn't take to this guy at first because I initially felt that he was sorta riding Sagan's coattails in his whole approach. He seemed to mimic him too much. But he is just one guy so although he would not be qualified as an answer to the threads question, I did enjoy the video above where he explains about his independent way of thinking. I like him a lot more now.

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"And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick

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No one on THIS planet chuckle
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Oh, and just wanted to give a shout out to 'Family Fued' for inspiring this thread. hf


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GLP of course
Here is where I look back.
Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
A greyhound pass for the boy in the well.

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vedanta....especially the upanishads
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Father Lord God All Powerful, and my brother Jesus Christ.
hf
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Christianity (from the Ancient Greek: Christianos and the Latin suffix -itas) is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings. It also considers the Hebrew Bible, which is known as the Old Testament, to be canonical. Adherents of the Christian faith are known as Christians.

The mainstream Christian belief is that Jesus is the Son of God, fully divine and fully human and the savior of humanity. Because of this, Christians commonly refer to Jesus as Christ or Messiah. Jesus' ministry, sacrificial death, and subsequent resurrection are often referred to as the Gospel, meaning "Good News" (from the Greek: euangélion). In short, the Gospel is news of God the Father's eternal victory over evil, and the promise of salvation and eternal life for all people, through divine grace.
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Most popular answer on the board.

Understandings of Christianity range from the overly simplistic and dogmatic to much more deeper and interconnected realizations that tie into other fields of study and belief systems. I think the main division though within Christianity, which has sects that range a spectrum of conservatism and liberalism, is in the approach people take as far as Jesus is concerned. Was he looking for your worship OR was he trying to teach you something?


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Catholic.

Jesus came to teach, though not only that..
I don't think teaching deserves worship,
it is not for that I worship..
how could I not worship a god who came to the planet, to suffer an agonizing death, so that we could live for eternity?



hi Bowman

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Name a group (any 2 or more individuals) who shares the most accurate and honest description of reality and life in this universe.

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No one on THIS planet chuckle
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Not the absolute, but the most honest and accurate of what's here. thumbs


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Pen & Teller

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GLP of course
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Heya OM. hugs

GLP is like a big block of potential that's made entirely of information and your job as the sculptor is to carve out all the non-essential and useless information to form your view of reality, with discernment* being your sculpting tool.

And, some posters here may subscribe to the fact that within GLP itself are 'groups' whom they might feel are on the cutting edge of getting to know our universe and the reality that it has to offer, I imagine.

*discernment skills may vary from poster to poster.


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The Beatles.
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None. But I have discovered that if you live by the simple philosophy of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" & I add without expecting anything in return, life will be great. Simple, but effective.
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im gonna go ahead and use a lifeline here i just dont know the answer.
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Catholic.

Jesus came to teach, though not only that..
I don't think teaching deserves worship,
it is not for that I worship..
how could I not worship a god who came to the planet, to suffer an agonizing death, so that we could live for eternity?



hi Bowman
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Happy Saturday KK. hugs

I was never a Catholic KK, as my Christian experiences were always on the Protestant side, although we slid around a bit within it between JW's and the Born Again crowd.

I did date a Catholic girl once though. : )

Going to a Catholic service was a very intimidating experience for me because of all the ritual that was used and because I wasn't use to it I guess I felt a bit out of place. It had a very rigid feel to it to me.

It was a great surprise to me to learn later on in life just how involved the Catholics were in forming modern education and their involvement in the sciences, especially astronomy. But that part of it doesn't seem to get much publicity until very recently.

I have to admit KK that I have a lot of trouble dealing with forms of spiritual hierarchy. It comes down more to what I can genuinely respect or not. And I CAN respect Jesus' teachings, very much so. I wonder a lot about Jesus the man, and what his personality was really like.


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I'm going with the poster who said "no one on this planet"......Their is always room for error in any idea. I'm sure their are some that come close. All for different reasons :)
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Catholic.

Jesus came to teach, though not only that..
I don't think teaching deserves worship,
it is not for that I worship..
how could I not worship a god who came to the planet, to suffer an agonizing death, so that we could live for eternity?



hi Bowman
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Happy Saturday KK. hugs

I was never a Catholic KK, as my Christian experiences were always on the Protestant side, although we slid around a bit within it between JW's and the Born Again crowd.

I did date a Catholic girl once though. : )

Going to a Catholic service was a very intimidating experience for me because of all the ritual that was used and because I wasn't use to it I guess I felt a bit out of place. It had a very rigid feel to it to me.

It was a great surprise to me to learn later on in life just how involved the Catholics were in forming modern education and their involvement in the sciences, especially astronomy. But that part of it doesn't seem to get much publicity until very recently.

I have to admit KK that I have a lot of trouble dealing with forms of spiritual hierarchy. It comes down more to what I can genuinely respect or not. And I CAN respect Jesus' teachings, very much so. I wonder a lot about Jesus the man, and what his personality was really like.


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It was strange to me too, the form of the Mass, handed down for so many centuries, I grew up with no church, and only became a Catholic at 23.
Now that I understand the meanings behind the rituals, and have a history with them, they have become somewhat precious to me.
I don't think a hierarchy exists in a purely spiritual sense, but for a religion, it ties in the human world with the spiritual, and is necessary for organization and order.
Doesn't give anyone a priority to God, though.

I've always loved the fact that the Church won't compromise on the truth, won't be politically correct or go with the times in order to be popular or get more members.
She just is, resplendent through time, the bride of Christ.

I hadn't darkened the door of the church for a very long time, until fairly recently, and so I have a new found appreciation of her role in my life, and feel like I've come home.

Hmmm, the personality of Jesus, from his words, I can tell he was brilliant, from his actions, I'd say he was courageous and loving, but I know you want the juicy little details, lol.

Happy Saturday to you too!
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Pen & Teller

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Penn & Teller (Penn Jillette and Teller) are American illusionists and entertainers who have performed together since the late 1970s, and are known for their numerous stage and television shows. Their current Las Vegas show is an amalgam of illusion and comedy. Penn Jillette is a raconteur; Teller generally does not speak while performing, although his voice can occasionally be heard during their performance. They specialize in gory tricks, exposing frauds, and performing clever pranks. More recently they have become associated with atheism, scientific skepticism, and libertarianism, particularly through their television show Penn & Teller: Bullshit!.
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Sometimes I love these guys and sometimes I hate them. It depends on what the subject is. But I think the wiki article is correct in associating them with the greater atheist mentality that has been a primary product of Western education. I like their grounding approach but because they are tied to this mentality they can get a bit over zealous and too conservative sometimes. Worth a bunch of lol's for sure.


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Mechanical = CERN

Reality = Me and Hector the talking tea pot.
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OP is trying to have GLP do his Philosophy 101 homework for him. ohyeah
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The Doctor (there's an infinite number of him so it's a group tounge)
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hey bowman

there is the thought to prompt nassim harim and marko rodin to talk to each other
thinking from there rupert sheldrake has joined dave talbot and wal thornhill as dan winter did

include bruce lipton and through 2013 it may be that all 7 discover what they possess in common

which i believe will be of interest to everyone
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The Beatles.
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Why not?

In terms of sharing meaning through artistry, who else has had a bigger impact on the footprint of how that is accomplished than the Fab Four? Music had become the most popular from of artistry in the 20th century and I think that is still the case today. So I don't think that it's any coincidence, that these guys challenged Jesus is terms of popularity. But I don't see it as a better than this or that kind of thing as it was portrayed in the media back in the '60's. To me the rise of the Beatles is more of a complimentary reprisal of the rise of Jesus. : )

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None. But I have discovered that if you live by the simple philosophy of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" & I add without expecting anything in return, life will be great. Simple, but effective.
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And I suspect that's there is more than just one of you out there.

peace


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The Beatles.
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Why not?

In terms of sharing meaning through artistry, who else has had a bigger impact on the footprint of how that is accomplished than the Fab Four? Music had become the most popular from of artistry in the 20th century and I think that is still the case today. So I don't think that it's any coincidence, that these guys challenged Jesus is terms of popularity. But I don't see it as a better than this or that kind of thing as it was portrayed in the media back in the '60's. To me the rise of the Beatles is more of a complimentary reprisal of the rise of Jesus. : )

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Lennon went Commie / Harrison went hippie...the other 2 did not.

Not much common ground there.
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Jesus Christ/ Agent Moulder
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If we're talking music, I have to say U2!

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