THIIS IS IT, BEST PROOF OF CHEMTRAILS, Usaf plan caught starting + stopping spraying

It takes a special form of stupid to vehemently deny something and stand with the opposing view as absolute truth even though
1. You have no actual knowledge of the phenomena in relation to normal aeronautical physics.
2. You have no intimate knowledge or communication with ANY professional aviators, who can tell you first hand these guys fly around with no squawk code.
3. You wouldn't know what a squawk code is, or a transponder, or the tcas that shows not a sign of these guys even when we're flying literally 1000 feet below them
4. You have no intimate knowledge f the air traffic controllers that are buzzed ALL THE TIME from pilots requesting deviations to military and cargo planes THAT ATC ITSELF IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF FLYING IN THE AIRSPACE.

Generally, you have proven yourself a shill. Please mr.shill, tell your handlers if you actually want to put a "dent" in the chemtrail hysteria, you certainly need more "aeronautically challenged" shills that can make it seem like they actually know something...

Planet Earth Under Chemical Attack from ChemTrails
Politics / Environmental Issues
Nov 26, 2012 - 02:52 AM

By: Patrick_Henningsen

[link to www.marketoracle.co.uk]

So far, the evidence presented is evidence of the ignorance of those presenting it.

1) yes, actually I do. The trails Is OBVIOUSLY an aerodynamic contrail. Only an idiot would suggest otherwise.

2) I am a former pilot with a commercial aviation degree from Nathaniel Hawthorne College.

3) that's a claim...with ZERO supporting evidence

4) just another claim with STILL no supporting evidence.

Please provide evidence to support your ridiculous claims...fucking loser!



Chemtards have failed to prove their claims...

I'm not a shill for pointing out that people are making claims and not providing evidence to support them.

As much as you would like your paranoid accusations about me to be true, they aren't.

Show me that I'm wrong about the the contrail in the video in this thread being anything more than an aerodynamic contrail...liar.

I love how you people use the ignorance of other morons who have never studied these subjects as proof.

WOW....El piloto......my hats off to you. Even though I have no aviation knowledge whatsoever......I've been saying the same to the above shill for almost 2 years now. I've been to contrail.science and done some reading and came away more convinced than ever that chemtrails are real. What we are seeing done to the sky on a regular basis is bizarre.

And if anyone has read anything about evergreen it's pretty clear why the USFS did not award them a contract.

Contards.. here's a shovel, dig yourself outta the sandbox.

Try again.

As you stated you went to an aviation college, I'm assuming you are quite familiar with the jaa and it's safe to assume you have at least a ppl, or even a cpl, so please explain what I have asked of you. This should be easy if you actually are what you say you are

Confirmation bias...two morons agree with each other because they share the same ignorant delusion.


And yes, it's obvious that you don't have any knowledge about these subjects.

No need..you have yet to prove a singe trail is anything more than a contrail. It's you who's in the sandbox.

No one is here to prove anything as this is not a fucking science lecture. It's a conspiracy website for discussion. So gtfo bro-bro.

Same old, same old, Noble. Videos and web pages are not what brought most of us to our belief in chemtrails.

You've come up against people who are far more intelligent than yourself with thick skin (name calling/insults, really?).

From what I witness going on with the trails....I believe the video could be true. Why not? If they can blatantly put this crap up there and we see it for what it is, then, yes, and it does change the air quality, oh yeah.

Explain what an "aerodynamic contrail means to you, then?
Also explain the relationship between condensation and ambient humidity in relation to contrails?
Also can you explain what a fuel dump is, and what is the usual mechanism of operation in a standard modern commercial airliner?
Can you also give ANY reference, video, or link to a plane having an "aerodynamic contrail" in normal operational flight at cruise altitude?

I bet it would be pretty hard (impossible) to find, as any overwing condensation is caused by the disparity of temperatures from the top of the airfoil meeting faster, colder air under the airfoil. This usually happens during take of or landing during in humid overcast conditions when the plane is flying in a high drag configuration. The thing is, at cruise altitude, the temperature is ON AVERAGE around -50 degrees Fahrenheit, there is no disparity between the temperatures under te airfoil and above it, thus your subsections are wholly incorrect and show you truly have not an inkling of a clue to how a real aircraft works or even basic terminology to classic aviation phenomena.


The condensation cloud over a wing forms at higher angle of attack because the air over the wing is at a lower pressure, not temperature. You often saw such condensation during shuttle launches just aft of the SRB cones and the shuttle forward fuselage. Areas where the air pressure was aerodynamically reduced will cause such "clouds" to briefly form.
At flight level, they might form when the aircraft is at relatively high AOA due to weight and cruising altitude. High altitude plus high gross weight (for that altitude) can create such clouds, perhaps accentuated by brief areas of turbulence which create small AOA changes themselves.

It's pressure, not temperature.

sorry for the prev post formatting screwup, not very good at this. Last paragraph are my comments

Are you saying these chemtrail aircraft are stealth? Undetected by TCAS receivers and FAA radar?

And how, as a pilot flying a plane, would you know the squawk of another plane nearby? Or if he's got a transponder operating at all?

Yes, on rare occasions, military aircraft have flown without ATC clearances...it's called MARSA...but it's a very rare occurrence, and the involved military pilots are equipped to remain safely clear of all traffic.

He's saying they operate with no transponder. So in essence, stealth.

Last Edited by aliensbro on 12/01/2012 05:27 PM

and FAA radars have a mode for seeing raw radar returns...

and?

...they would know there was an aircraft there.

Now, where's the evidence than lots of planes are tear-assin' through civil airspace with their transponders off and no flightplan/clearance?

Op here, great insight there sir.

It sickens me to hear what goes on in the airs..

It would be awesome to get insights and information on that matter from people who work at aircontrol towers.

The USAF Pilots don't give a fuck if they are seen or not. Have you watched the other Video in the pinned threads how these fuckers buzz through the airs just 300 feets above the commercial airplane? THEY DONT CARE.

Also, read what El pilot wrote:

4. You have no intimate knowledge f the air traffic controllers that are buzzed ALL THE TIME from pilots requesting deviations to military and cargo planes THAT ATC ITSELF IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF FLYING IN THE AIRSPACE.

^heres the video for those who havent seen it yet

No, chemtards PRETEND that they are intelligent for falling or a stupid hoax.

It's hilarious.

Please continue. Making stupid assumptions and making statements of fact without providing any evidence.

You have no idea how hilarious your ignorance is to others.

Please continue to make stupid claims and using other stupid claims to support them.

Also, link to OTHER stupid chemtard sites to support your ignorant claims.

You can't imagine how entertaining you fools are.

And that's because you are stupid.

By the way, calling stupid people "stupid" is not "name calling". It's just being observant and truthful.

I'm sorry the truth hurts.

Contrails.

This is just so disturbing!

You chemtards have been able to delude yourselves into believing that you understand subjects about which you have only "googled" search terms related to "chemtrails".

Yes, I agree, you have educated yourself completely about the hoax, but you have forgotten to take the time to learn the science and principles of aviation which you dismiss, without ever actually learning them!

I realy do pity you people. What horrific lives you must all live.

Where is your evidence against chemtrails?

OK, it's obvious you are not familiar with military flight operations by this post...and that's ok. Just don't try to tell others how the military buzzes airliners and such. (where did you come up with your "300 feet" number??) Why wouldn't civil ATC be aware of a strange aircraft, squawking or otherwise, inside their airspace...this is just a foolish claim.

The military works within the ATC system, under civil ATC control. Exceptions include when operating in reserved airspace (MOAs, Warning/Restricted Areas, etc) for training, where they are under military control (who also coordinate directly with their adjacent civil ATC counterparts). Then there's MARSA, where controllers/flight crews still coordinate to the best extent possible. That happened on 9/11.

Military jets don't fly willy nilly over the US in an uncontrolled fashion...that's the real deal. Imagine the headlines if nome bonzo jet jockey took out an airliner. That's why the rules are there...

I'll guarantee you the JETLINERS in your video were properly separated vertically, and filmed at a high zoom setting. That planes pass each other on the airways and oceanic tracks is just the routine. RNAV manke such extremely accurate flight paths possible.

Actually calling people stupid is just a bullying tactic, plain and simple and has nothing to do with being observant and truthful, or on topic in this case. Only losers resort to such a low measure of behavior. Who are you trying to kid? Besides yourself, that is.

You sound so much like a child. Are you?

Oh, please don't be horrified or pitiful. Learn to feel good about your fine self righteous, arrogant self. If the material on this thread is so disturbing, please look into other topics that may be more suitable to someone of such a discerning nature.

Chemtrails are very real. We're not horrified. Merely disgusted and concerned. So shill off please.