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Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed

 
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Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
I received a letter from the Illinois Department of Revenue yesterday stating that I owe $2500 in back taxes from 2008. I looked up my prepared tax return and noticed that I did owe the state $459 (after deductions), and I obviously forgot to send it in. But now they're charging me the full tax amount of $1700 (before deductions), along with penalties and interest.

Anyone ever go through this and get the amount reduced? Maybe get payment plans? My problem is that I don't have the money to pay it in the next 30 days like the letter states.
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Anyone have any experience with this? Any advice?
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Just throw the chit away and go back to your life, it`s only a piece of paper.
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RUN!!!
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Call them on Tuesday (they'll be grouchy on Monday, everyone is) and make a payment plan. No big deal. I had to do this in Indiana and they split it out over 12 months.

But don't just ignore it or they'll clean out your bank account with no warning or garnish your paycheck. I had the bank account thing happen to me when I was younger, trust me, you don't want that.
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Call them on Tuesday (they'll be grouchy on Monday, everyone is) and make a payment plan. No big deal. I had to do this in Indiana and they split it out over 12 months.

But don't just ignore it or they'll clean out your bank account with no warning or garnish your paycheck. I had the bank account thing happen to me when I was younger, trust me, you don't want that.
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You think I can get the amount reduced?
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12/02/2012 12:24 AM
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There is no reason to up it to 1700 and eliminate any legitimate deductions you claimed. IN WRITING negotiate to the original 400 something plus penalties and interest. THEN make a payment plan IN WRITING. No phone calls. All that matters is the paper trail. E-mails MIGHT be okay, but you need to print them out, yours and theirs both. Good luck.
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12/02/2012 12:26 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
I received a letter from the Illinois Department of Revenue yesterday stating that I owe $2500 in back taxes from 2008. I looked up my prepared tax return and noticed that I did owe the state $459 (after deductions), and I obviously forgot to send it in. But now they're charging me the full tax amount of $1700 (before deductions), along with penalties and interest.

Anyone ever go through this and get the amount reduced? Maybe get payment plans? My problem is that I don't have the money to pay it in the next 30 days like the letter states.
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Don't pay. It shows that you acknowledge that you owe it. If you make any payment at all or call them up, you are in essence saying you know you owe them money. Then you are on the hook for it all. If you ignore the letter, it'll die.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, but I know how debt collection works.
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12/02/2012 12:27 AM
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DUDE ALL JOKING ASIDE!!!! I GOT THE SAME LETTER FROM ILLINOIS THIS YEAR ABOUT 2010. I owe them 2500? Try 348. Yeah Illinois is run by con-artists.
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
I received a letter from the Illinois Department of Revenue yesterday stating that I owe $2500 in back taxes from 2008. I looked up my prepared tax return and noticed that I did owe the state $459 (after deductions), and I obviously forgot to send it in. But now they're charging me the full tax amount of $1700 (before deductions), along with penalties and interest.

Anyone ever go through this and get the amount reduced? Maybe get payment plans? My problem is that I don't have the money to pay it in the next 30 days like the letter states.
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Don't pay. It shows that you acknowledge that you owe it. If you make any payment at all or call them up, you are in essence saying you know you owe them money. Then you are on the hook for it all. If you ignore the letter, it'll die.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, but I know how debt collection works.
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if you ignore the letter, eventually you will lose your house
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
I received a letter from the Illinois Department of Revenue yesterday stating that I owe $2500 in back taxes from 2008. I looked up my prepared tax return and noticed that I did owe the state $459 (after deductions), and I obviously forgot to send it in. But now they're charging me the full tax amount of $1700 (before deductions), along with penalties and interest.

Anyone ever go through this and get the amount reduced? Maybe get payment plans? My problem is that I don't have the money to pay it in the next 30 days like the letter states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465586


Don't pay. It shows that you acknowledge that you owe it. If you make any payment at all or call them up, you are in essence saying you know you owe them money. Then you are on the hook for it all. If you ignore the letter, it'll die.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, but I know how debt collection works.
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if you ignore the letter, eventually you will lose your house
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Then you could get an Obamaphone a live like royalty.
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12/02/2012 12:31 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Tell them you don't have any gold or silver to pay them with.
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12/02/2012 12:36 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
if you hope to negotiate the amount down, you'll need a lawyer. that will likely cost much more than the bill. probably better off just biting the bullet, going in with a GOOD attitude, and trying to get a 2 or 3 year payment plan worked out.
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12/02/2012 12:41 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
omg don't ignore it, they'll just take it - they can and will do that. they have different "rules" than just your average creditor.

i am self-employed and always behind on taxes so i have plenty of experience in this, unfortunately.

you may be able to get it reduced, i guess it depends on if all that extra is penalty and interest or not. if so, you're prob gonna have to pay it. sorry.

try not to be too nervous when you call and do NOT be confrontational or demanding, be polite and friendly, even tho you probably won't want to be.

they might try and make you pay a big chunk as down payment initially - i have always gotten out of that so you can sound a little panicky (remember nice and polite at all times) and say you don't know how you will do that and ask if there is anyway to just start making the payments - they have always let me do it that way, but they will try to get a chunk first. also be prepared for them to ask you for a payment right then - i've gotten away with as little as $50.

but you HAVE to do something about it or they'll wipe your bank account clean and they try to do it when they think you have rent/mortgage money in there so they get the most
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12/02/2012 12:43 AM
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Tell the state you will trade them your Obama phone for the balance dew.
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Tell the state you will trade them your Obama phone for the balance dew.
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*due (Iam drinking Mountain Dew) LOL
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12/02/2012 12:47 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
wow, your state sucks. plus they don't honor out of state ccw permits. so, everyone I know drives straight threw without spending a dime....
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wow, your state sucks. plus they don't honor out of state ccw permits. so, everyone I know drives straight threw without spending a dime....
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dew, threw...
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
There is no reason to up it to 1700 and eliminate any legitimate deductions you claimed. IN WRITING negotiate to the original 400 something plus penalties and interest. THEN make a payment plan IN WRITING. No phone calls. All that matters is the paper trail. E-mails MIGHT be okay, but you need to print them out, yours and theirs both. Good luck.
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This^^^ then work out a scheduled payment plan
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12/02/2012 10:59 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Thanks everyone for their input.

I like the idea of doing everything through mail, but my concern is that the letter states I only have 30 days to handle this. Who knows when they'll get around to responding to my letters.
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12/02/2012 11:00 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
DUDE ALL JOKING ASIDE!!!! I GOT THE SAME LETTER FROM ILLINOIS THIS YEAR ABOUT 2010. I owe them 2500? Try 348. Yeah Illinois is run by con-artists.
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Did you get it reduced to $348?
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12/02/2012 11:02 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Act quickly because the amount will continue to go up...
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12/02/2012 11:07 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
Tater, send them $2600 in pennies... and make them mail you a refund. That will fix them.
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12/02/2012 11:25 AM
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Wait until hyperinflation kicks in and you will be paying them back pennies on the dollar.......
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12/02/2012 11:38 AM
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
At least call them up and find out what the extra is for, when by your calculations you only owed $459.
This would be the time to ask whether they actually received your tax return, since if you forgot to send the payment, you might also have forgotten to even mail your tax return. This is indicated by the fact that they are assessing your full amount without deductions. They get that figure from the W-2 that your employer sent them and it looks like they have not even seen the tax return you sent.
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
At least call them up and find out what the extra is for, when by your calculations you only owed $459.
This would be the time to ask whether they actually received your tax return, since if you forgot to send the payment, you might also have forgotten to even mail your tax return. This is indicated by the fact that they are assessing your full amount without deductions. They get that figure from the W-2 that your employer sent them and it looks like they have not even seen the tax return you sent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


You're right. I did have it prepared because I'm looking at the copy, but I forgot to send it in to them. So they only got the original tax amount (pre deductions) from the IRS, which is what their letter says.

One person told me to just send it in with a check for $459 and everything would be good. But I highly doubt that.
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Re: Found out that I owe state back taxes....advice needed
At least call them up and find out what the extra is for, when by your calculations you only owed $459.
This would be the time to ask whether they actually received your tax return, since if you forgot to send the payment, you might also have forgotten to even mail your tax return. This is indicated by the fact that they are assessing your full amount without deductions. They get that figure from the W-2 that your employer sent them and it looks like they have not even seen the tax return you sent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


You're right. I did have it prepared because I'm looking at the copy, but I forgot to send it in to them. So they only got the original tax amount (pre deductions) from the IRS, which is what their letter says.

One person told me to just send it in with a check for $459 and everything would be good. But I highly doubt that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465586


That is close...You need to send the return in with payment. They will probably reply with an interest and penalty amount. They are running the calculations based on the information your have provided... In this case, none.

I had the same thing happen with the feds once, eventually got it resolved.





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