A simple checllist to see just WHO you really serve. LIGHT or DARKNESS. Check your FRUITS. | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21997452 United States 12/01/2012 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | extreme is bad I find myself on the light side in most cases but, lets say someone breaks into your house and is raping your daughter, you come home as he is trying to leave you get him down and can 1) Let him go and show him extreme love and forgiveness 2) Beat the hell out of him can call the cops 3) Kill him Notice how 1 and 3 are the EXTREMES and aren't a;ways the best choice The golden rule - moderation and balance |
aliensbro User ID: 27403091 United States 12/01/2012 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can extreme love be a bad thing? If everyone loved everyone there would be no more death and suffering. If everyone put everyone else first and gave instead of taking there would be no want or starvation. That is a bad thing? Well have you ever seen a homicide due to lover infatuation? That's how. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28415203 United States 12/01/2012 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Courage...The ability to face any foe or situation without wavering. Does not seek to save self at the expense of others. Feels fear as is natural but does not give in to it. Marches into battle with character and steadfast resolve to do what is right at whatever cost. So how do you march into battle for what's right with meekness, humility, love, mercy, humility, and gentleness? I'm talking real battle, psychical as well as spiritual/emotional The battle should never happen in the first place if Forgiveness is ones 1st principle. In fact most of the attributes you mention for Light would prevent a practitioner from battle. No battle and evil wins. Psycho/sociopaths reek havoc on the Light. See the dilemma? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17843752 Australia 12/01/2012 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | extreme is bad Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21997452 I find myself on the light side in most cases but, lets say someone breaks into your house and is raping your daughter, you come home as he is trying to leave you get him down and can 1) Let him go and show him extreme love and forgiveness 2) Beat the hell out of him can call the cops 3) Kill him Notice how 1 and 3 are the EXTREMES and aren't a;ways the best choice The golden rule - moderation and balance Thats true. But thats courage and sacrificing onself for the sake of others is it not? You find a person doing that to someone you love. They could kill you if you try to stop them but because of "Love" and the drive to sacrifice your own safety for the sake of others you press in with courage and self sacrifice to defend the weak. What you have described is all the traits of Light. You can forgive that person but you also must stop the attack. Justice is the attack on the person perpetrating the evil act. But once the perp is subdued and the innocent save from further harm the true test of light is will you then forgive that person in order to show him what love is and in so doing reach past the hate and evil which drove the perp to the attack and expose that darkened heart to light? Could you do that? Could you do the same thing if the attack wat hapenning to someone you had no connection to? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17843752 Australia 12/01/2012 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Courage...The ability to face any foe or situation without wavering. Does not seek to save self at the expense of others. Feels fear as is natural but does not give in to it. Marches into battle with character and steadfast resolve to do what is right at whatever cost. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28415203 So how do you march into battle for what's right with meekness, humility, love, mercy, humility, and gentleness? I'm talking real battle, psychical as well as spiritual/emotional The battle should never happen in the first place if Forgiveness is ones 1st principle. In fact most of the attributes you mention for Light would prevent a practitioner from battle. No battle and evil wins. Psycho/sociopaths reek havoc on the Light. See the dilemma? No dilemma. Where evil abounds its because those who claim to bear the light do nothing to stop it. That is cowardice and selfishness which are traits of darkness. To do nothing in the face of injustice and evil is to take sides with the injustice and evil. Courage requires battle on behalf of the weak. To lay onself down for another to do what is right regardless of the cost. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25904315 United States 12/01/2012 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I am on laptop now so (hopefully) will not make so many typos. You have a good heart and this world, unfortunately, has many black hearts crawling around. They will sniff your kind out, and use you up. Unless, of course, you REALIZE the difference between being loving and being a moran. Moran= Sacrifice to everyone, even demons and asshats. Loving= Understanding that many people are morans, but you care for them anyway, WITHOUT sacrificing yourself. Cheers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18557444 Australia 12/01/2012 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25904315 I am on laptop now so (hopefully) will not make so many typos. You have a good heart and this world, unfortunately, has many black hearts crawling around. They will sniff your kind out, and use you up. Unless, of course, you REALIZE the difference between being loving and being a moran. Moran= Sacrifice to everyone, even demons and asshats. Loving= Understanding that many people are morans, but you care for them anyway, WITHOUT sacrificing yourself. Cheers Being on the side of light does not mean sitting back and being walked over by evil. Thats the trait of darkness called "Cowardice" which is to refuse to fight evil. If you refuse to fight evil you are not on the side of light but of darkness. To be on the side of light means to use courage and self sacrifice which means using wisdom to know where and when to fight. If someone attacks you there is a right of defense if it causes harm to others who are innocent. If you do not defend yourself or others it is cowardice and selfishness. To be of the light does not mean to be a whimp. It means to be a true warrior. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25904315 United States 12/01/2012 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you innocent too? Why do you feel the need to protect the innocent? Smells like arrogance. ahh, I am in a cocky mood. Most definetly fight for good against all odds. Just older now, and wasted alot of energy on people who just lapped it up and continued being evil. Was just warning you. Maybe you will have a different experience, and I Hope You do!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18557444 Australia 12/01/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you innocent too? Why do you feel the need to protect Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25904315 the innocent? Smells like arrogance. ahh, I am in a cocky mood. Most definetly fight for good against all odds. Just older now, and wasted alot of energy on people who just lapped it up and continued being evil. Was just warning you. Maybe you will have a different experience, and I Hope You do!! If you fight evil with evil you just double the evil. If you fight evil with good you might not always win every battle but the winning of the war is certain. Water always puts out fire. Some houses get burnt down and some lives are lost. But in the end evil devours itself and water will kill it in the end. The water is the good and the fire is the evil. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25904315 United States 12/01/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carry on my wayward son......... there will be peace when you are done. *kansas* I think? lol one of them seventies bands. I found my peace, and have passed the torch. Ying/Yang Good/Evil Makes a good drama that is everlasting. Yet, I know aboulety nothing. Mean it, don't get this game at all. Other than there will always be good vs evil. Now just an observer. |
FlashMob User ID: 12260220 United States 12/01/2012 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can extreme love be a bad thing? If everyone loved everyone there would be no more death and suffering. If everyone put everyone else first and gave instead of taking there would be no want or starvation. That is a bad thing? You contradict yourself. How can ONE GIVE without another TAKING? In the end, we will all TAKE at some point. You may fool me once. But twice is unlikely |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26267702 United States 12/01/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Courage...The ability to face any foe or situation without wavering. Does not seek to save self at the expense of others. Feels fear as is natural but does not give in to it. Marches into battle with character and steadfast resolve to do what is right at whatever cost. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28415203 So how do you march into battle for what's right with meekness, humility, love, mercy, humility, and gentleness? I'm talking real battle, psychical as well as spiritual/emotional The battle should never happen in the first place if Forgiveness is ones 1st principle. In fact most of the attributes you mention for Light would prevent a practitioner from battle. No battle and evil wins. Psycho/sociopaths reek havoc on the Light. See the dilemma? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16720032 United States 12/01/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The telltale traits of LIGHT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17283308 Forgiveness...forgiving no matter what the cost. Humility...never puffing onself up and thinking you are "Chosen" or "Special" or "Better" than anyone else. Mercy...showing mercy especially where none is actually deserved. This ties in with Forgiveness...and requires humility to operate. Love..keeps no record of wrongs done. Gives of self freely and with joy to all without exemtion of class or status. Will sacrifice self for the sake of another. never condemns another and always sees the good and hopes for the good of others. Self sacrifice...tied in with Love. Will lay aside self for others no matter the cost to self. Will die to protect others and will go without meeting its own needs to meet the needs of others without regard to status or position. Tied in with Love and Mercy. Gentleness...does not force itself on others. Speaks gently and with humilty. Does not threaten or force others and does not demand to be heard or to get its own way. Meekness...ability to suffer the stubborness of others without getting all worked up. Can see past the surface to what lies beneath but does not force its opnion even when it knows it is in the "Right" Will speak with a gentle spirit and always strive never to draw attention to itself. Courage...The ability to face any foe or situation without wavering. Does not seek to save self at the expense of others. Feels fear as is natural but does not give in to it. Marches into battle with character and steadfast resolve to do what is right at whatever cost. What contradictory and cowardly bullshit. Here is what I believe. I believe in CONSEQUENCES. If someone does something unforgivable then they are OUT of my life. According to your bullshit I should just forgive them, keep them in my life and let them screw me over again. And you know what pride is a GOOD thing. If you aren't proud of yourself then maybe there is a fucking reason for it eh? So take your moralistic, better-than-thou attitude and shove it up your ass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19041317 Australia 12/02/2012 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The telltale traits of LIGHT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17283308 Forgiveness...forgiving no matter what the cost. Humility...never puffing onself up and thinking you are "Chosen" or "Special" or "Better" than anyone else. Mercy...showing mercy especially where none is actually deserved. This ties in with Forgiveness...and requires humility to operate. Love..keeps no record of wrongs done. Gives of self freely and with joy to all without exemtion of class or status. Will sacrifice self for the sake of another. never condemns another and always sees the good and hopes for the good of others. Self sacrifice...tied in with Love. Will lay aside self for others no matter the cost to self. Will die to protect others and will go without meeting its own needs to meet the needs of others without regard to status or position. Tied in with Love and Mercy. Gentleness...does not force itself on others. Speaks gently and with humilty. Does not threaten or force others and does not demand to be heard or to get its own way. Meekness...ability to suffer the stubborness of others without getting all worked up. Can see past the surface to what lies beneath but does not force its opnion even when it knows it is in the "Right" Will speak with a gentle spirit and always strive never to draw attention to itself. Courage...The ability to face any foe or situation without wavering. Does not seek to save self at the expense of others. Feels fear as is natural but does not give in to it. Marches into battle with character and steadfast resolve to do what is right at whatever cost. What contradictory and cowardly bullshit. Here is what I believe. I believe in CONSEQUENCES. If someone does something unforgivable then they are OUT of my life. According to your bullshit I should just forgive them, keep them in my life and let them screw me over again. And you know what pride is a GOOD thing. If you aren't proud of yourself then maybe there is a fucking reason for it eh? So take your moralistic, better-than-thou attitude and shove it up your ass. I take it you kinda like the dark side of things? Forgiving someone does not mean letting them stay in your life.. It just means not letting what they did to you get you down forever. Forgiveness also means in its essence to NOT hurt them for hurting you. Ive been hurt plenty. But what I did even in the pain of betrayal was chose NOT to retaliate and bring myself down to their level. Fire cannot put out fire. Forgiving someone does not mean being a dorrmat. But it also means not being a mad cannon shooting everyone dead who ever hurt you either with words or actions. Bear the pain and move on. You keep these people IN your life by always mulling over what they did. If you find yourself ten years down the track still angry at them..they are STILL in your life even if you have not seen them in ten years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16987935 Australia 12/02/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The telltale traits of LIGHT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17283308 Forgiveness...forgiving no matter what the cost. Humility...never puffing onself up and thinking you are "Chosen" or "Special" or "Better" than anyone else. Mercy...showing mercy especially where none is actually deserved. This ties in with Forgiveness...and requires humility to operate. Love..keeps no record of wrongs done. Gives of self freely and with joy to all without exemtion of class or status. Will sacrifice self for the sake of another. never condemns another and always sees the good and hopes for the good of others. Self sacrifice...tied in with Love. Will lay aside self for others no matter the cost to self. Will die to protect others and will go without meeting its own needs to meet the needs of others without regard to status or position. Tied in with Love and Mercy. Gentleness...does not force itself on others. Speaks gently and with humilty. Does not threaten or force others and does not demand to be heard or to get its own way. Meekness...ability to suffer the stubborness of others without getting all worked up. Can see past the surface to what lies beneath but does not force its opnion even when it knows it is in the "Right" Will speak with a gentle spirit and always strive never to draw attention to itself. Courage...The ability to face any foe or situation without wavering. Does not seek to save self at the expense of others. Feels fear as is natural but does not give in to it. Marches into battle with character and steadfast resolve to do what is right at whatever cost. What contradictory and cowardly bullshit. Here is what I believe. I believe in CONSEQUENCES. If someone does something unforgivable then they are OUT of my life. According to your bullshit I should just forgive them, keep them in my life and let them screw me over again. And you know what pride is a GOOD thing. If you aren't proud of yourself then maybe there is a fucking reason for it eh? So take your moralistic, better-than-thou attitude and shove it up your ass. I take it you kinda like the dark side of things? Forgiving someone does not mean letting them stay in your life.. It just means not letting what they did to you get you down forever. Forgiveness also means in its essence to NOT hurt them for hurting you. Ive been hurt plenty. But what I did even in the pain of betrayal was chose NOT to retaliate and bring myself down to their level. Fire cannot put out fire. Forgiving someone does not mean being a dorrmat. But it also means not being a mad cannon shooting everyone dead who ever hurt you either with words or actions. Bear the pain and move on. You keep these people IN your life by always mulling over what they did. If you find yourself ten years down the track still angry at them..they are STILL in your life even if you have not seen them in ten years. Yeah this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16228161 Australia 12/03/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I second the vote for moderation since if you believe that you are only of the light and love" then you are lying. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21155409 And we all know lying is a trait of darkness. Them new agers and 99% of christians have a lot of rethinking to do about what side they are really on dont they? |
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Mr. Deadite User ID: 16214891 United States 12/03/2012 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can extreme love be a bad thing? If everyone loved everyone there would be no more death and suffering. If everyone put everyone else first and gave instead of taking there would be no want or starvation. That is a bad thing? Well have you ever seen a homicide due to lover infatuation? That's how. That type of situation is not a product of love, but rather of selfishness. Typically, it stems from stumbling upon adultery. A lover is cheating on the soon-to-be-killer and commits a crime of passion. Love would let go of the adulterer, accepting that what was isn't what is best and allowing the object of desire to find what is best. It's attachment to one's own idea of what is best that drives them to kill another. This is a form of selfishness because they are unable to let go of their idea. So instead, because they cannot have the life they desire, they kill to make up for it. In this thread, the OP has defended himself quite nicely. What he has said is true. The light is gray to bright, while darkness is just that. In darkness, moderation is unattainable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1277549 United States 12/03/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can extreme love be a bad thing? If everyone loved everyone there would be no more death and suffering. If everyone put everyone else first and gave instead of taking there would be no want or starvation. That is a bad thing? Love isn't necesarily a good thing. Love is just a force trying to express itself. Plenty of evil things have been done in the world because somebody was overwhelmed by love. |