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I defer to people who know what they're talking about.
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You can hold up a mirror, and I will hold one back.

Science is scared shitless.

They know we just magically appeared... but shudder at the thought of Creationists knowing their weakness.

In this case Science and Creation hold hands and walk down the path together.
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How did we magically appear? Are you talking about the first appearance of micro-organisms? If that's the case no one has the answer to that. Science has hypothesis' on how it may have occured, but simply inserting a celestial being into the equation that you can't verify in the first place is illogical.
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Careful what you say man. We DO KNOW when life appeared.

Fossils of 2 sophisticated types of bacteria begin at around 4.5 billion years ago, while Earth was still very hot and plasmid.
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I'm completely lost on your train of thought.
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1. How far is heaven from earth ?
2. How far is hell from earth?
2.1 What is the temparature of hell fire ?
3. If a believer rapes a non believer and resulting
fetus is aborted, who goes to heaven and who goes to hel
4. Did Hitler's army go to heaven
4.1 What happened to millions of jew souls after they were tortured in concentration camp ? did they go to hell ?
Is God hitler like ?
5. How will you recognize Jesus after you die ?
6. How will you travel to heaven
7. How will you time pass in heaven ?
8. Is sex, porn allowed in heaven?
9. Is wine/good food allowed in heaven ?
10. If Jesus has forgiven all crime and sins, why the hell is judiciary needed ?
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1. Why are wasting time writing a lot of questions that humans do not have answers to?
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I believe maybe the poster is stating the obvious, no matter what "team" one is on, it is all specualtion, or should we call it "faith". The mere fact that these religions preach one goes to eternal hell fire for getting those "questions wrong humans dont have the answers to" should be one's first red flag.
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Sure they can make that argument, but its not a very good one.The word speaks for itself, Its not just a story is The story.i do not know where jesus was crucified,I wasnt there, Were you? The point is that Jesus was crucified,God created us and we uncreated him.


alien7
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The level of stupid here just rose to unprecedented levels...congrats!
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Its all about positives and negatives...all i see are people saying this is stupid o his is wrong but your not presenting why or hows its wrong.Make a valid point or arguement or i would say based on your post that you are correct....the levels are unprecedented.


alien7
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The real truth is that NOBODY (not THE fucking nobody lol) knows.
It is ALL theory and conjecture. There might be a god/s. We MAY have evolved.
Fuck, we may have sprouted from a cabbage or a seed.
NOBODY knows and I don't give a fuck what anyone says to the contrary.
To 'believe' in any one theory is ridiculous and a waste of time and energy.
Research our origins, yes!
"Believe' in any one theory, NO!
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I believed every word of this.

Till I memorized every word of this...






I asked myself over and over... is this for real.

My conclusion is the same. The theory has factual evidence.

I support it.

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"We fight for truth, so love may venture, and peace may follow" ~ Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."
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Anyone with believes in that besides that of the lord Jesus Christ bring you theory's here,So that I can disprove and eliminate them one by one.

alien7
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Beat these talking monkeys into dust..Tell them the truth and they will still not be set free,,They need to be brought into their own lies and trickseeeeeeee
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If God actually did come down from heaven and space to all the top atheist in the world and say "here i am"....Instead of believe,They would check into mental institutions.Sometimes it seems like somethings are not meant to be.


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Your throwing pearls out here OP>
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I'm sure you're doing the Lord's work by insulting everyone who doesn't agree with you. Congrats?
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Im only a man, I am just human, have you always turned the other cheek when someone insulted you? Yea neither have I.
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And yet, you want us to serve a "god" that makes us feel guilty for the inadequacies HE designed us with?

That makes sense... not.
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I don't care who you serve and i have not said that i do.


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I'm sure you're doing the Lord's work by insulting everyone who doesn't agree with you. Congrats?
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Im only a man, I am just human, have you always turned the other cheek when someone insulted you? Yea neither have I.
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And yet, you want us to serve a "god" that makes us feel guilty for the inadequacies HE designed us with?

That makes sense... not.
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I don't care who you serve and i have not said that i do.


alien7
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Congratulations! You are continuing to show you are a mindless SHILL!!

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What about us satanists? Can we get owned too, please? I spend so much time kissing the dark one's ass that I'd hate to be left out...
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Of course but if your a satanist,then you acknowledge the exist of Satan ,In doing that you acknowledge the existence of god.So You are already owned.

alien7
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Other than intelligence, what you sadly lack is a sense of humour...
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I thought it was pretty funny.lol

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Im only a man, I am just human, have you always turned the other cheek when someone insulted you? Yea neither have I.
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And yet, you want us to serve a "god" that makes us feel guilty for the inadequacies HE designed us with?

That makes sense... not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


I don't care who you serve and i have not said that i do.


alien7
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Congratulations! You are continuing to show you are a mindless SHILL!!

5a
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Atheism is impossible. GET OVER IT say somthing that proves me wrong about somthing. Damn im beginning to think you are a single celled organism lol


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And yet, you want us to serve a "god" that makes us feel guilty for the inadequacies HE designed us with?

That makes sense... not.
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I don't care who you serve and i have not said that i do.


alien7
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Congratulations! You are continuing to show you are a mindless SHILL!!

5a
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Atheism is impossible. GET OVER IT say somthing that proves me wrong about somthing. Damn im beginning to think you are a single celled organism lol


tounge
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I don't need to. The burden of proof is on the religious my friend.
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Bigfoot are living Miocene apes. Meaning we did not evolve on this planet.

SO you are more right than you think.

I used to be pro intelligent design, but I hit the books and "wisened" up.

doesnt mean Im a bad person.
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I like some of your post, makes alot of sense but a bigfoot has never been captured,They may not even have ever existed.
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I don't care who you serve and i have not said that i do.


alien7
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Congratulations! You are continuing to show you are a mindless SHILL!!

5a
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Atheism is impossible. GET OVER IT say somthing that proves me wrong about somthing. Damn im beginning to think you are a single celled organism lol


tounge
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I don't need to. The burden of proof is on the religious my friend.
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Maybe but...i never said i was here to prove, i am here to disprove. remember?

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Congratulations! You are continuing to show you are a mindless SHILL!!

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Atheism is impossible. GET OVER IT say somthing that proves me wrong about somthing. Damn im beginning to think you are a single celled organism lol


tounge


I don't need to. The burden of proof is on the religious my friend.


Maybe but...i never said i was here to prove, i am here to disprove. remember?

cool2


So disprove something.
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Congratulations! You are continuing to show you are a mindless SHILL!!

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Atheism is impossible. GET OVER IT say somthing that proves me wrong about somthing. Damn im beginning to think you are a single celled organism lol


tounge


I don't need to. The burden of proof is on the religious my friend.


Maybe but...i never said i was here to prove, i am here to disprove. remember?

cool2


So disprove something.
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Atheism is impossible. GET OVER IT say somthing that proves me wrong about somthing. Damn im beginning to think you are a single celled organism lol


tounge
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I don't need to. The burden of proof is on the religious my friend.
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Maybe but...i never said i was here to prove, i am here to disprove. remember?

cool2
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So disprove something.
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I already did. I disproved atheism and the theory of evolution.I think you should go read jesus's words in the bible, you know the ones in red.Then ask yourself in your heart, are these words right? and then more importantly ask yourself are these the words of a HUMAN?My work is done. Goodnight.

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See, most of the time I woud not even waste my precious time on replying to a redundant bullshit post like this, as i see them 100 times a day on here.

But this is my issue, Im not here to bash anyones faith, the problem is very FEW of the christians I know (and i used to be one by the way) take the fucking time to research anything.

If one was to look into the texts we have from the past, in conjunction with our minds, and in contrast compare, and then come to their own conclusions, fine, so be it. I have, and the christ story is a compilation of many stories. It has been twisted and tampered with several times (Council of Nicea, look it up) So that is my issue, not one's faith.

Stop jumping on the bandwagon and use the fucking brain the creator gave you, and use it for fucks sake. We need truth right now, especially now, not some folk lore bullshit story that was set to entrap you. "Hey just have faith, no need to research or question anything, lay back, Jesus will do the rest" Get the fuck out of here already, wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You did not even try to make your case here and made huge totally unsubstantiated claims.

'the Christ story is a compilation of many stories'

What stories are you referring to? How have you come to the conclusion that it's a compilation?

The Gosepl are very consistent and there is absolutely nothing to suggest the story was stitched together from other stories.
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Mithra was born dec 25, not christ, read about Mithracism. read about dionysus, the story of horus. Oh the flood of noah? why dont you read about gilgmesh. I could sit here all day and do this, the point is why are you not knowledgeable about this. Once you do go "oh shit, that sounds just like the story of __________ in my bible". Stop taking a leap of "faith" and start reading. If you are that passionate about your god, then i would think you would log off of GLP and educate yourself. Stop spouting off shit you have no fucking clue about.

Why don't you tell us what concrete evidence you have? Why are the tables always turned as to prove you wrong, WHY DONT YOU PROVE ME WRONG?

If you can do all this putting your deep rooted belief systems aside, and come back with the same claims then, hey, all good. I dont see how you could though.
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What does dec 25 have to do with the Bible. It never mentions such a date. Therefore that point is completely invalid.

There is no way to determine that the epic of Gilgamesh preceded the account of Noah's flood.

Those are the only two you mentioned among all your vitriol and hyperbole. Do you have any better arguments?
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Disprove the countless stories that predate the bible, that is clear to anyone with an ounce of common sense knows the bible is a carbon copy story of those earlier stories? I want to hear how you "reason" with yourself about this?
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Yea Genesis is a 3rd graders cheat sheet from the Sumerian creation epic The Enuma E'lish.

6 tablets of action, one tablet of summation.

Speaks of the great celestial battle (which btw the epic answers almost a dozen of the worlds most puzzling astronomical and geological questions.)
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The similarities are superficial at best. There is nothing that in any way resembles the fall of man through the temptation of Eve, land with many other vast differences. Also, there is no way to establish that the Sumerian myth preceded Genesis. Oh ye of little faith. What would God do with thee when thy ears are so easily tickled by falsities? No fidelity.
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1. How far is heaven from earth ?
2. How far is hell from earth?
2.1 What is the temparature of hell fire ?
3. If a believer rapes a non believer and resulting
fetus is aborted, who goes to heaven and who goes to hel
4. Did Hitler's army go to heaven
4.1 What happened to millions of jew souls after they were tortured in concentration camp ? did they go to hell ?
Is God hitler like ?
5. How will you recognize Jesus after you die ?
6. How will you travel to heaven
7. How will you time pass in heaven ?
8. Is sex, porn allowed in heaven?
9. Is wine/good food allowed in heaven ?
10. If Jesus has forgiven all crime and sins, why the hell is judiciary needed ?
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1. Why are wasting time writing a lot of questions that humans do not have answers to?
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I believe maybe the poster is stating the obvious, no matter what "team" one is on, it is all specualtion, or should we call it "faith". The mere fact that these religions preach one goes to eternal hell fire for getting those "questions wrong humans dont have the answers to" should be one's first red flag.
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Christianity does not preach you'll go to hell for not being able to answer speculative questions. What specifically do you base this claim on?
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What about us satanists? Can we get owned too, please? I spend so much time kissing the dark one's ass that I'd hate to be left out...
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Of course but if your a satanist,then you acknowledge the exist of Satan ,In doing that you acknowledge the existence of god.So You are already owned.

alien7
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Why did you capitalize satan and not God?

You are a wolf in sheep's clothing. A satanist in disguise. It was obvious from the start.
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See, most of the time I woud not even waste my precious time on replying to a redundant bullshit post like this, as i see them 100 times a day on here.

But this is my issue, Im not here to bash anyones faith, the problem is very FEW of the christians I know (and i used to be one by the way) take the fucking time to research anything.

If one was to look into the texts we have from the past, in conjunction with our minds, and in contrast compare, and then come to their own conclusions, fine, so be it. I have, and the christ story is a compilation of many stories. It has been twisted and tampered with several times (Council of Nicea, look it up) So that is my issue, not one's faith.

Stop jumping on the bandwagon and use the fucking brain the creator gave you, and use it for fucks sake. We need truth right now, especially now, not some folk lore bullshit story that was set to entrap you. "Hey just have faith, no need to research or question anything, lay back, Jesus will do the rest" Get the fuck out of here already, wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You did not even try to make your case here and made huge totally unsubstantiated claims.

'the Christ story is a compilation of many stories'

What stories are you referring to? How have you come to the conclusion that it's a compilation?

The Gosepl are very consistent and there is absolutely nothing to suggest the story was stitched together from other stories.
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Mithra was born dec 25, not christ, read about Mithracism. read about dionysus, the story of horus. Oh the flood of noah? why dont you read about gilgmesh. I could sit here all day and do this, the point is why are you not knowledgeable about this. Once you do go "oh shit, that sounds just like the story of __________ in my bible". Stop taking a leap of "faith" and start reading. If you are that passionate about your god, then i would think you would log off of GLP and educate yourself. Stop spouting off shit you have no fucking clue about.

Why don't you tell us what concrete evidence you have? Why are the tables always turned as to prove you wrong, WHY DONT YOU PROVE ME WRONG?

If you can do all this putting your deep rooted belief systems aside, and come back with the same claims then, hey, all good. I dont see how you could though.
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Watching the first 20 minutes of Zeitgeist does not make you a Bible expert. The Zeitgeist claims about Christianity were thoroughly debunked.
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I am not a Atheist! Just think Atheist have a religion and don't know it.



The atheists credo - - - -

We believe in one Matter,
The almighty, the omnipotent
Maker of the whole universe
Of all that is seen and unseen
We believe in one Cosmic Egg
The only Son of Matter
Eternally begotten of Matter
Matter from Matter, Energy from Energy,
True Matter from True Matter
Begotten not made,
Of one being with Matter
Through the Egg all things were made
For us men and for our evolution
It formed itself in the heavens
By the power of the Energy it became incarnate into virgin space, and was made Egg
For our sake, it exploded in a singularity,
expanded, and expanded and became everything
In accordance with the ‘Big Bang’ story
It spread across the heavens and evolved into galaxies
It will continue in glory
Until the ultimate heat death
We believe in the Energy, the giver of life, which proceeds from the Matter and the Egg
With the Matter and the Egg it is worshipped and glorified
It has been revealed by the atheists
We believe in one, secular humanist and Darwinian faith
We acknowledge one, atheistic viewpoint for the education of all.
We look for the oblivion of the dead
And the destruction of the world to come.
Amen
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So God owns us now? I wondered why I always felt like such a slave.
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What about us satanists? Can we get owned too, please? I spend so much time kissing the dark one's ass that I'd hate to be left out...
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Of course but if your a satanist,then you acknowledge the exist of Satan ,In doing that you acknowledge the existence of god.So You are already owned.

alien7
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Why did you capitalize satan and not God?

You are a wolf in sheep's clothing. A satanist in disguise. It was obvious from the start.
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Your right,I am a wolf in sheep clothing, so that when the other wolves comes to kill the sheep, I remove my wool and kill wolves.Now, is capitalization really the point here? It was a mistake, You do know that i'm human right?


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So God owns us now? I wondered why I always felt like such a slave.
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If you built something, wouldn't it be belong to you?



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See, most of the time I woud not even waste my precious time on replying to a redundant bullshit post like this, as i see them 100 times a day on here.

But this is my issue, Im not here to bash anyones faith, the problem is very FEW of the christians I know (and i used to be one by the way) take the fucking time to research anything.

If one was to look into the texts we have from the past, in conjunction with our minds, and in contrast compare, and then come to their own conclusions, fine, so be it. I have, and the christ story is a compilation of many stories. It has been twisted and tampered with several times (Council of Nicea, look it up) So that is my issue, not one's faith.

Stop jumping on the bandwagon and use the fucking brain the creator gave you, and use it for fucks sake. We need truth right now, especially now, not some folk lore bullshit story that was set to entrap you. "Hey just have faith, no need to research or question anything, lay back, Jesus will do the rest" Get the fuck out of here already, wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nice
You did not even try to make your case here and made huge totally unsubstantiated claims.

'the Christ story is a compilation of many stories'

What stories are you referring to? How have you come to the conclusion that it's a compilation?

The Gosepl are very consistent and there is absolutely nothing to suggest the story was stitched together from other stories.
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Mithra was born dec 25, not christ, read about Mithracism. read about dionysus, the story of horus. Oh the flood of noah? why dont you read about gilgmesh. I could sit here all day and do this, the point is why are you not knowledgeable about this. Once you do go "oh shit, that sounds just like the story of __________ in my bible". Stop taking a leap of "faith" and start reading. If you are that passionate about your god, then i would think you would log off of GLP and educate yourself. Stop spouting off shit you have no fucking clue about.

Why don't you tell us what concrete evidence you have? Why are the tables always turned as to prove you wrong, WHY DONT YOU PROVE ME WRONG?

If you can do all this putting your deep rooted belief systems aside, and come back with the same claims then, hey, all good. I dont see how you could though.
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What does dec 25 have to do with the Bible. It never mentions such a date. Therefore that point is completely invalid.

There is no way to determine that the epic of Gilgamesh preceded the account of Noah's flood.

Those are the only two you mentioned among all your vitriol and hyperbole. Do you have any better arguments?
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will we have to live with negroes, mexicans and chinemen in heaven?
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Race is an illusion, race is a product of time with factors such as climate and or location,environment.Understanding is knowing that every man is your brother and every woman is your sister...and that the 7+ billion people populating the earth currently,descended for 8 people. Which was Noah and his family.

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race is a product of evolution.
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nice
You did not even try to make your case here and made huge totally unsubstantiated claims.

'the Christ story is a compilation of many stories'

What stories are you referring to? How have you come to the conclusion that it's a compilation?

The Gosepl are very consistent and there is absolutely nothing to suggest the story was stitched together from other stories.
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Mithra was born dec 25, not christ, read about Mithracism. read about dionysus, the story of horus. Oh the flood of noah? why dont you read about gilgmesh. I could sit here all day and do this, the point is why are you not knowledgeable about this. Once you do go "oh shit, that sounds just like the story of __________ in my bible". Stop taking a leap of "faith" and start reading. If you are that passionate about your god, then i would think you would log off of GLP and educate yourself. Stop spouting off shit you have no fucking clue about.

Why don't you tell us what concrete evidence you have? Why are the tables always turned as to prove you wrong, WHY DONT YOU PROVE ME WRONG?

If you can do all this putting your deep rooted belief systems aside, and come back with the same claims then, hey, all good. I dont see how you could though.
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What does dec 25 have to do with the Bible. It never mentions such a date. Therefore that point is completely invalid.

There is no way to determine that the epic of Gilgamesh preceded the account of Noah's flood.

Those are the only two you mentioned among all your vitriol and hyperbole. Do you have any better arguments?
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"Most of the bible was never meant to be taken literally". That quote came from my grade 11 religion teacher. I went to a catholic school during my ENTIRE 13 years of school. I've had to sit through countless masses and confessions. I had to study the bible and pick out stories and find the "meaning" of them. Countless hours of indocrination. I know all about the bible and all its stories and I dont believe any of it

Do you honestly think the story of GENESIS is real? Do you honestly think the earth was created in 6 days?. Do you honestly think that god ordered the hebrew midwives to kill all male babies in Egypt. Do you honestly believe that noah built a boat big enough to house 2 of every animal? Do you honestly believe that noah parted the red sea and closed it on the Egyptian army. Do you honestly believe that jesus turned 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish in to enough food to feed 5000 men. If you do then I feel bad for you.

I dont consider myself an atheist or an evolutionist, but I certainly DON'T consider myself affiliated with any "God" or religion for that matter. As a matter of fact ALL religions, when you really sit down and think about it, are based off the same thing.

They are all a collection of the same stories that primitive man wrote to explain things and events that happened to them, in a way that they would understand. The original bible had ALOT more stories then you believe, only the "best" ones made it into the bible. Not to mention that alot of the stories were written at different times(somestimes timeframes spanning hundreds of years), by different people(hundreds in fact), has been editied coutless times, retold, translated, and shrunken down to the size it is now.


Christians themselves contradict one another with their explanation of the stories of the bible. Some believe that the earth was created in 6 days. Some say that it wasnt 6 days in our time but actually 6 "biblical days"(however long that is, well who the hell knows). Some say the earth is only 6000+ years old. I ask where is the evidence. Show me the proof that it was. If the earth was created that fast surely we should have been able to observe other similar events with all the technology now, and the ability to look at the stars. But no we havent. Some believe that noah actually did part the red sea and close it on the advancing pharaoh, but there is no documented accounts of any pharaoh ever perishing in that way. You would think that if the ENTIRE EGYPTIAN ARMY INCLUDING THE PHARAOH failed to return that would be a big thing and be documented accordingly. There was a news report on CNN just last week regarding the fact that some christian scholars now believe that the nativity didnt happen as we all thought. They now believe that there was no animals, no gifts, no manger, that it was all made up. For something that is supposedly "fact", that is alot of inconsistencies, and that is just to start. God is supposed to be all knowing, loving, and forgiving and yet when you actually read up on it god is actually quite the asshole. I think Richard Dawkins came up with the best description of god i have ever heard and it is all true. It is as follows:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all FICTION: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully"

Im sorry but SCIENCE, whether it has been proven fact or not, trumps anything the bible can explain.It helps define who we are, where we came from and where we are going to go. It can, with confidence, show that the earth wasn't created in 6 days. If a theory is proven false then it is studied and modified so that it can be proven as fact. If not then it isnt studied, or at least not by conventional scientists. It doesnt belittle us. It doesnt punish us for not following its beliefs, it encourages challenging its beliefs. In fact that what science is based on. A scientific theory is meant to be proven wrong. It advances science. Heck we now are starting to learn and believe that the THEORY OF RELATIVITY, which is like the most widely known scientic therory, is being proven to be not accurate. It doesnt condem us to an afterlife of fire and brimstone.

It explains the world and how we live it. It explains the processes the earth goes through. It doesn't say "ah well sorry about that tornado that just destroyed your town, but it was gods will cause you are all sinners". It explains that yes we all come from the same DNA. It doesn't matter that your black, white, Chinese, Hispanic, etc, we all have the same DNA. So therefore in a way yes we are brothers and sisters, but not in the literal way.

Science is not a theory, it is a fact. Religions are THEORIES, they have NEVER been proven as facts....EVER. Sure there may be stories in the bible which may have happened, but the bible as a whole is not concrete, it is not fact. Therefore believing that the literal "GOD" exists, or ever did exist
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Mithra was born dec 25, not christ, read about Mithracism. read about dionysus, the story of horus. Oh the flood of noah? why dont you read about gilgmesh. I could sit here all day and do this, the point is why are you not knowledgeable about this. Once you do go "oh shit, that sounds just like the story of __________ in my bible". Stop taking a leap of "faith" and start reading. If you are that passionate about your god, then i would think you would log off of GLP and educate yourself. Stop spouting off shit you have no fucking clue about.

Why don't you tell us what concrete evidence you have? Why are the tables always turned as to prove you wrong, WHY DONT YOU PROVE ME WRONG?

If you can do all this putting your deep rooted belief systems aside, and come back with the same claims then, hey, all good. I dont see how you could though.
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What does dec 25 have to do with the Bible. It never mentions such a date. Therefore that point is completely invalid.

There is no way to determine that the epic of Gilgamesh preceded the account of Noah's flood.

Those are the only two you mentioned among all your vitriol and hyperbole. Do you have any better arguments?
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"Most of the bible was never meant to be taken literally". That quote came from my grade 11 religion teacher. I went to a catholic school during my ENTIRE 13 years of school. I've had to sit through countless masses and confessions. I had to study the bible and pick out stories and find the "meaning" of them. Countless hours of indocrination. I know all about the bible and all its stories and I dont believe any of it

Do you honestly think the story of GENESIS is real? Do you honestly think the earth was created in 6 days?. Do you honestly think that god ordered the hebrew midwives to kill all male babies in Egypt. Do you honestly believe that noah built a boat big enough to house 2 of every animal? Do you honestly believe that noah parted the red sea and closed it on the Egyptian army. Do you honestly believe that jesus turned 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish in to enough food to feed 5000 men. If you do then I feel bad for you.

I dont consider myself an atheist or an evolutionist, but I certainly DON'T consider myself affiliated with any "God" or religion for that matter. As a matter of fact ALL religions, when you really sit down and think about it, are based off the same thing.

They are all a collection of the same stories that primitive man wrote to explain things and events that happened to them, in a way that they would understand. The original bible had ALOT more stories then you believe, only the "best" ones made it into the bible. Not to mention that alot of the stories were written at different times(somestimes timeframes spanning hundreds of years), by different people(hundreds in fact), has been editied coutless times, retold, translated, and shrunken down to the size it is now.


Christians themselves contradict one another with their explanation of the stories of the bible. Some believe that the earth was created in 6 days. Some say that it wasnt 6 days in our time but actually 6 "biblical days"(however long that is, well who the hell knows). Some say the earth is only 6000+ years old. I ask where is the evidence. Show me the proof that it was. If the earth was created that fast surely we should have been able to observe other similar events with all the technology now, and the ability to look at the stars. But no we havent. Some believe that noah actually did part the red sea and close it on the advancing pharaoh, but there is no documented accounts of any pharaoh ever perishing in that way. You would think that if the ENTIRE EGYPTIAN ARMY INCLUDING THE PHARAOH failed to return that would be a big thing and be documented accordingly. There was a news report on CNN just last week regarding the fact that some christian scholars now believe that the nativity didnt happen as we all thought. They now believe that there was no animals, no gifts, no manger, that it was all made up. For something that is supposedly "fact", that is alot of inconsistencies, and that is just to start. God is supposed to be all knowing, loving, and forgiving and yet when you actually read up on it god is actually quite the asshole. I think Richard Dawkins came up with the best description of god i have ever heard and it is all true. It is as follows:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all FICTION: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully"

Im sorry but SCIENCE, whether it has been proven fact or not, trumps anything the bible can explain.It helps define who we are, where we came from and where we are going to go. It can, with confidence, show that the earth wasn't created in 6 days. If a theory is proven false then it is studied and modified so that it can be proven as fact. If not then it isnt studied, or at least not by conventional scientists. It doesnt belittle us. It doesnt punish us for not following its beliefs, it encourages challenging its beliefs. In fact that what science is based on. A scientific theory is meant to be proven wrong. It advances science. Heck we now are starting to learn and believe that the THEORY OF RELATIVITY, which is like the most widely known scientic therory, is being proven to be not accurate. It doesnt condem us to an afterlife of fire and brimstone.

It explains the world and how we live it. It explains the processes the earth goes through. It doesn't say "ah well sorry about that tornado that just destroyed your town, but it was gods will cause you are all sinners". It explains that yes we all come from the same DNA. It doesn't matter that your black, white, Chinese, Hispanic, etc, we all have the same DNA. So therefore in a way yes we are brothers and sisters, but not in the literal way.

Science is not a theory, it is a fact. Religions are THEORIES, they have NEVER been proven as facts....EVER. Sure there may be stories in the bible which may have happened, but the bible as a whole is not concrete, it is not fact. Therefore believing that the literal "GOD" exists, or ever did exist
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is just ignorant, or insanely dumb, or has just been blinded by faith
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1. How far is heaven from earth ?
2. How far is hell from earth?
2.1 What is the temparature of hell fire ?
3. If a believer rapes a non believer and resulting
fetus is aborted, who goes to heaven and who goes to hel
4. Did Hitler's army go to heaven
4.1 What happened to millions of jew souls after they were tortured in concentration camp ? did they go to hell ?
Is God hitler like ?
5. How will you recognize Jesus after you die ?
6. How will you travel to heaven
7. How will you time pass in heaven ?
8. Is sex, porn allowed in heaven?
9. Is wine/good food allowed in heaven ?
10. If Jesus has forgiven all crime and sins, why the hell is judiciary needed ?
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Looks like OP got owned as he is unable to answer these questions.
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1. How far is heaven from earth ?
2. How far is hell from earth?
2.1 What is the temparature of hell fire ?
3. If a believer rapes a non believer and resulting
fetus is aborted, who goes to heaven and who goes to hel
4. Did Hitler's army go to heaven
4.1 What happened to millions of jew souls after they were tortured in concentration camp ? did they go to hell ?
Is God hitler like ?
5. How will you recognize Jesus after you die ?
6. How will you travel to heaven
7. How will you time pass in heaven ?
8. Is sex, porn allowed in heaven?
9. Is wine/good food allowed in heaven ?
10. If Jesus has forgiven all crime and sins, why the hell is judiciary needed ?
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Looks like OP got owned as he is unable to answer these questions.
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The Bible does answer most of them, yes.

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