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Thinking of buying a Cubic Zirconium engagement ring for fiancee. Should I?

 
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At 10% compounding for 20 years, that would turn into $70,000. Enough to send my kid to a decent college
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You are going to spend the rest of your life with her....she is not worth a real diamond to you?

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That diamond may have come at the expense of someone's life.

If she's too shallow to consider that, I suggest you run the other way, as fast as you can.

[link to www.weddingchicks.com]
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Yeah, that's the other thing. I don't feel like making DeBeers richer.
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I have a semi-related question for the ladies here...
Without delving fully into my personal life, I have a very expensive diamond ring(Platinum, antique in style), 'left over' from my last relationship. I really don't know what to do with it. It is a beautiful ring, and I am sure most women would appreciate it, but I feel it is now a bit tainted. It would be wrong to give it to another woman, if ever that type of situation arises again, wouldn't it? I think it would be, but never have been in that situation. How would a woman feel knowing she is the second recipient of a ring? Mind you, it is a very expensive, beautiful piece of jewelry...
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Rings are lame
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At 10% compounding for 20 years, that would turn into $70,000. Enough to send my kid to a decent college
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just explain all these reasons to her beforehand, then there will be no problems...
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Don't get a cubic zarconia. Get her a Nexus man made diamond.

They are stunning and guaranteed to last a lifetime.

My Sister has had hers for 6 years and it still looks gorgeous.

I think conflict free diamonds are the only way to go. No one died for it, no blood money for it and it's really a diamond made in a lab.

Check out these engagement and wedding set stunning designs. They are nice and affordable. A lot more than $50 - but worth every penny. They can be set in Platinum, gold, silver, etc.

[link to www.diamondnexus.com]

Show her the catalog and let her pick one out.

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I have a semi-related question for the ladies here...
Without delving fully into my personal life, I have a very expensive diamond ring(Platinum, antique in style), 'left over' from my last relationship. I really don't know what to do with it. It is a beautiful ring, and I am sure most women would appreciate it, but I feel it is now a bit tainted. It would be wrong to give it to another woman, if ever that type of situation arises again, wouldn't it? I think it would be, but never have been in that situation. How would a woman feel knowing she is the second recipient of a ring? Mind you, it is a very expensive, beautiful piece of jewelry...
 Quoting: exiled1


im not a chick, but i can assure you "my ex's ring i got back" is WAY bad mojo...lol "recycled" rings are ONLY good if they belonged to great grandma, or french royalty
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Re: Thinking of buying a Cubic Zirconium engagement ring for fiancee. Should I?
Why don't you ask her what she wants? Tell her, I could buy you a plain gold band and spend the money on a house instead, or a nicer honeymoon, or I can get you the big ring if that's what you want.

See what she says. If you don't already know the answer, you shouldn't be geting married.
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I have a semi-related question for the ladies here...
Without delving fully into my personal life, I have a very expensive diamond ring(Platinum, antique in style), 'left over' from my last relationship. I really don't know what to do with it. It is a beautiful ring, and I am sure most women would appreciate it, but I feel it is now a bit tainted. It would be wrong to give it to another woman, if ever that type of situation arises again, wouldn't it? I think it would be, but never have been in that situation. How would a woman feel knowing she is the second recipient of a ring? Mind you, it is a very expensive, beautiful piece of jewelry...
 Quoting: exiled1


im not a chick, but i can assure you "my ex's ring i got back" is WAY bad mojo...lol "recycled" rings are ONLY good if they belonged to great grandma, or french royalty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030


yeah, even if she was OK with it, not sure I would be...perhaps a jewelry store would make a trade if situation arises...
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I have a semi-related question for the ladies here...
Without delving fully into my personal life, I have a very expensive diamond ring(Platinum, antique in style), 'left over' from my last relationship. I really don't know what to do with it. It is a beautiful ring, and I am sure most women would appreciate it, but I feel it is now a bit tainted. It would be wrong to give it to another woman, if ever that type of situation arises again, wouldn't it? I think it would be, but never have been in that situation. How would a woman feel knowing she is the second recipient of a ring? Mind you, it is a very expensive, beautiful piece of jewelry...
 Quoting: exiled1


im not a chick, but i can assure you "my ex's ring i got back" is WAY bad mojo...lol "recycled" rings are ONLY good if they belonged to great grandma, or french royalty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030


yeah, even if she was OK with it, not sure I would be...perhaps a jewelry store would make a trade if situation arises...
 Quoting: exiled1


or a pawn shop, or sell it on craigslist, or save it to give to your daughter (then the "bad mojo" dies, lol))
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I have a semi-related question for the ladies here...
Without delving fully into my personal life, I have a very expensive diamond ring(Platinum, antique in style), 'left over' from my last relationship. I really don't know what to do with it. It is a beautiful ring, and I am sure most women would appreciate it, but I feel it is now a bit tainted. It would be wrong to give it to another woman, if ever that type of situation arises again, wouldn't it? I think it would be, but never have been in that situation. How would a woman feel knowing she is the second recipient of a ring? Mind you, it is a very expensive, beautiful piece of jewelry...
 Quoting: exiled1


im not a chick, but i can assure you "my ex's ring i got back" is WAY bad mojo...lol "recycled" rings are ONLY good if they belonged to great grandma, or french royalty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030


yeah, even if she was OK with it, not sure I would be...perhaps a jewelry store would make a trade if situation arises...
 Quoting: exiled1


or a pawn shop, or sell it on craigslist, or save it to give to your daughter (then the "bad mojo" dies, lol))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030


no daughters, definitely not craigslist, listing that type of thing will get your ass killed...pawn shops spell out a huge loss...but i guess it isn't doing anything for me now...maybe ill trade it in for a jetskipeace
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If you buy the cubic tell her the truth.

The price of real diamonds is ready

to crash and when that happens

I'll buy you the real thing

from Russia's relatively

new find which is

far superior to

Africa's.
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im not a chick, but i can assure you "my ex's ring i got back" is WAY bad mojo...lol "recycled" rings are ONLY good if they belonged to great grandma, or french royalty
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030


yeah, even if she was OK with it, not sure I would be...perhaps a jewelry store would make a trade if situation arises...
 Quoting: exiled1


or a pawn shop, or sell it on craigslist, or save it to give to your daughter (then the "bad mojo" dies, lol))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28823030


no daughters, definitely not craigslist, listing that type of thing will get your ass killed...pawn shops spell out a huge loss...but i guess it isn't doing anything for me now...maybe ill trade it in for a jetskipeace
 Quoting: exiled1



What about a high end auction house. You can set the starting amount.
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I'm a jeweler and just an FYI, I get at least three bitches a day asking me to test their new engagement ring. 1/5 are fake. But wait, the funny part is ; they always come with friends.



lmao
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I'm a jeweler and just an FYI, I get at least three bitches a day asking me to test their new engagement ring. 1/5 are fake. But wait, the funny part is ; they always come with friends.



lmao
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i dont get it, whats the funny part of that???
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buy moissanite, my opinoin: much nicer.
my wife wanted brilliant diamond rings, once we saw the price for moissanite, that was good enough for her.


[link to www.moissanite.com]


don't hide it from you fiancee, one walk through a mall jewlery store and the jig is over, they have hand held spectrometers and know in a heart beat if it's not diamond.
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12/02/2012 12:42 AM
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CZ is more brilliant than Diamond and looks better as far as I'm concerned. Plus it would only be $50.00

Should I just buy it and see if she values me for me instead of my money?
 Quoting: Cheap Chalupa 754169


Hmm.....starting your married life off with a lie. Well done!! I'd be kicking your ass to the curb. It's not about the money...it's about the deception.
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Op, If you don't wanna spend a lot of $$$ or simply can't, you can get diamond engagement rings for under a $100. They won't be massive rocks or anything but it's better that a cubic z. I had a so-called "quality" cubic z and as others said, they get yucky over time. Here's some rings to check out:

Under $100:

[link to www.helzberg.com]

[link to www.helzberg.com]

Not sure if you wanna spend a grand or not but the one below is nice. It's got 1 CT worth of stones in white gold for $999. The "center stone" gives the illusion of a big engagement ring but is actually made of many small diamonds as opposed to one large rock ring that cost $10k:

[link to www.helzberg.com]

What ever you do, don't go deep in debt for a fancy ring. You could take the 5 to 10k and use it towards a down payment on a house or to get you and her out of debt.
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You are going to spend the rest of your life with her....she is not worth a real diamond to you?

Granted, if you can't afford it, go small....but don't be deceitful.


I also on the other hand think its ridiculous for women to get huge rocks. I think it's better if you start small, then every 5 years replace the stone with a bigger one......so by the time you're married 40 years you earned that huge rock!!!
 Quoting: J-Honey


I was thinking it would be more reasonable to take the $10,000 and put it into a college fund for our future kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754169


Why not offer her a ring with something other than a diamond? Does she like amethysts or peridot or topaz? These are not that expensive. Rubies, emeralds and sapphires can be more expensive than diamonds.
Some women prefer not to wear a diamond.
Or another possibility would be a band with some type of floral or decorative motif without a stone.
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Buy her the CZ,---- BUT---- tell her it is temporary until the two of you pick out the ring of her dreams together from what the two of you can afford. At that point you can make a logical choice together. Maybe a ring won't be as important to her as a down payment on a small home. You should be honest and make big decisions together. Diamond rings are very expensive and should be a decision made together. You can get her a diamond wedding band with lots is of small diamonds for a lot less money than a solitaire diamond. They sparke just as much and won't break your budget. Whatever you do, do it together.
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You are going to spend the rest of your life with her....she is not worth a real diamond to you?

Granted, if you can't afford it, go small....but don't be deceitful.


I also on the other hand think its ridiculous for women to get huge rocks. I think it's better if you start small, then every 5 years replace the stone with a bigger one......so by the time you're married 40 years you earned that huge rock!!!
 Quoting: J-Honey


I was thinking it would be more reasonable to take the $10,000 and put it into a college fund for our future kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754169


Why not offer her a ring with something other than a diamond? Does she like amethysts or peridot or topaz? These are not that expensive. Rubies, emeralds and sapphires can be more expensive than diamonds.
Some women prefer not to wear a diamond.
Or another possibility would be a band with some type of floral or decorative motif without a stone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28170048


The pawn shop idea is actually a good one. The rings are reasonably priced and at least you can honestly say you were told it was a diamond.
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You are going to spend the rest of your life with her....she is not worth a real diamond to you?

Granted, if you can't afford it, go small....but don't be deceitful.


I also on the other hand think its ridiculous for women to get huge rocks. I think it's better if you start small, then every 5 years replace the stone with a bigger one......so by the time you're married 40 years you earned that huge rock!!!
 Quoting: J-Honey


I was thinking it would be more reasonable to take the $10,000 and put it into a college fund for our future kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754169


Why not offer her a ring with something other than a diamond? Does she like amethysts or peridot or topaz? These are not that expensive. Rubies, emeralds and sapphires can be more expensive than diamonds.
Some women prefer not to wear a diamond.
Or another possibility would be a band with some type of floral or decorative motif without a stone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28170048


That is another excellent suggestion. Maybe there is another stone she would like....just above all don't lie...
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if she knows its CZ, fine. if you represent it as a diamond, no.
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I was just going to not represent anything at all.

If she gets it appraised and is upset about it not being a Diamond, I figure that is a sign she might be a gold digger.
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Or that you're an A-hole.
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I have a semi-related question for the ladies here...
Without delving fully into my personal life, I have a very expensive diamond ring(Platinum, antique in style), 'left over' from my last relationship. I really don't know what to do with it. It is a beautiful ring, and I am sure most women would appreciate it, but I feel it is now a bit tainted. It would be wrong to give it to another woman, if ever that type of situation arises again, wouldn't it? I think it would be, but never have been in that situation. How would a woman feel knowing she is the second recipient of a ring? Mind you, it is a very expensive, beautiful piece of jewelry...
 Quoting: exiled1


Get the stone reset in a different setting. You don't have to explain where the stone came from. That's my feelings but I'm more of the practical type.
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CZ is more brilliant than Diamond and looks better as far as I'm concerned. Plus it would only be $50.00

Should I just buy it and see if she values me for me instead of my money?
 Quoting: Cheap Chalupa 754169


Hmm.....starting your married life off with a lie. Well done!! I'd be kicking your ass to the curb. It's not about the money...it's about the deception.
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Who said anything about deception? I just wouldn't say anything.
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CZ is more brilliant than Diamond and looks better as far as I'm concerned. Plus it would only be $50.00

Should I just buy it and see if she values me for me instead of my money?
 Quoting: Cheap Chalupa 754169


Hmm.....starting your married life off with a lie. Well done!! I'd be kicking your ass to the curb. It's not about the money...it's about the deception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28373112


Who said anything about deception? I just wouldn't say anything.
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Lying by omission is still deceit.

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Someone on this thread suggested a Nexus "diamond". No no no...these are CZs. There are any number of companies that claim to make a superior diamond substitute, and most of the time their special stones are CZs. Some coat the CZs to make them seem harder, but in the end, they are CZs.
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Well, I took everyone's advice and told her that I wanted to get a synthetic stone and use the money for more practical purposes.

She had a complete meltdown. So I have called it off. I don't want to be legally attached to someone that is that bad with finances.
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A diamond is symbolic of being hard, and unbreakable. That's why people choose it to represent their love for another.

You "put a ring" on something you want to keep, or protect, save and own.

Gold is also symbolic, it will never rust, and is "permanent" much like a diamond.

A gold/diamond ring is thus just a symbol.

What do you think the symbolic significance is giving someone a "fake" diamond, as a foundational piece of your relationship?

If you want to build a relationship on lies, and deceit through omission, then you've chosen well.
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A diamond is symbolic of being hard, and unbreakable. That's why people choose it to represent their love for another.

You "put a ring" on something you want to keep, or protect, save and own.

Gold is also symbolic, it will never rust, and is "permanent" much like a diamond.

A gold/diamond ring is thus just a symbol.

What do you think the symbolic significance is giving someone a "fake" diamond, as a foundational piece of your relationship?

If you want to build a relationship on lies, and deceit through omission, then you've chosen well.
 Quoting: Hales


No deception, I just told her straight out.

The results weren't pretty.

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