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I Just Read Aleister Crowley's Bio

 
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He was a sick evil human being a bad person and fu** he even has musicians now follow his crap, and I think he's also Paul McCartney's father.
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None of that was in the bio, it did say he had a propensity to terrify people who weren't up to his game. Otherwise, he was just exploring and expressing to the best of his ability, at his own pleasure using his own judgment.

Of course he got dirty, scraped, and hurt a few people... just like little kids do when they play.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


problem is he played with little kids

and goats

do you know how the Thoth Deck was made?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

No, there was nothing sick in the bio. If there is sick stuff, like with little kids, then, well, he went too far.
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he frightened mussolini

mussolini would kill anyone...but not crowley...crowley was banished

when someone as sick as mussolini kicks you out for being sick...well...
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He has come to me in my dreams and molested children in front of me just to enrage me, i ended up ripping off his wanker.
My astral handlers told me to never ever to read his stuff,
I got a new handler and i guess he thought his writings would b a good training manuel, but they just really really messed me up. But at least i know who the creepy molester was.
Read Jack Parsons he's my hero a true savior of mankind.
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The scorn heaped on the chosen one is felt in this life for those that have faith in him. Hmm :) Or is it :( Either way.

On Aleister Crowley...

He is a very misunderstood man. Personally, he very well may have been a saint, and he was fully aware of this. While most saints take on a role of being some sort of savior, Crowley rejected this notion in favor of seeing every man and woman as a savior in their own right. This is the beauty of his work and even the man himself. Any stories of his evil deeds are greatly exaggerated and likely extend from Crowley himself.

It's difficult to understand him and even more difficult to explain, but I'll give it a go. First off, I will compare him to L. Ron Hubbard (who stole his ideas and turned it into the COS [It's also my theory that Crowley knew this would happen/was going on and facilitated it by way of Jack Parsons for his own amusement]). Let's look at the "life story" of LRH. He created this entire mythology surrounding his life experiences that were all falsehoods. I shouldn't need to go into detail here. This was a classic Crowley move. What AC understood fully was the ancient mystery school idea of the Cult of Perception, or (and I forget who this paraphrased quote comes from) "If you can get enough people to believe a lie, then it becomes the truth". L. Ron Hubbard stole this tactic from Crowley. His use of it was influenced by Parsons. It's this train of thought that leads me to believe that much of the sinister mythology surrounding Aleister Crowley stems from the man himself.

Now, to understand Crowley a bit more, we'll look at two examples. In The Book of the Law, he claims that it was divinely inspired by an Egyptian god who called themself Aiwass. Pronounce this phonetically, and it's "I Was". This is a play on the "I Am" of the Old Testament. It was one of Crowley's jokes. He was raised in a strictly Hebraic from of Christianity. Eventually, he came to see hypocracies and inconsistencies within these teachings as a young child. Eventually, he'd write those beliefs in a very polarized fashion, using self-flagellation as a motif. This belief was said to be inspired by Aiwass, or "I Was". Get it?

The second example is the story of Crowley posing as a Catholic writer. He apparently wrote a book that contained him talking out of his ass making fun of Catholic beliefs, but writing it in a style that seemed authentically Catholic. The work went so far as to be published by a Catholic press and lauded by Catholic critics. Later on, he revealed that it was written by the Catholic Church's arch-enemy, the "wickedest man in the world", Aleister Crowley. Do you see his sense of humor?

He was a prankster, forebearer of Tim Leary, Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. By no means was he an evil man. In fact, he understood the principles of the Judeo-Christian faith better than the faith's scholars and took it upon himself to advance them by way of challenging them. During this process, he willingly became a villain. This does not seem typical of an ego-driven man. That's not to say he didn't have an ego -- I'm sure he thoroughly enjoyed all of the negative press. That said, though, he was a more righteous figure than many gave him credit as being.
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Why do you condemn others for drug use but praise him?
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He has come to me in my dreams and molested children in front of me just to enrage me, i ended up ripping off his wanker.
My astral handlers told me to never ever to read his stuff,
I got a new handler and i guess he thought his writings would b a good training manuel, but they just really really messed me up. But at least i know who the creepy molester was.
Read Jack Parsons he's my hero a true savior of mankind.
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I wouldn't be curious to read what Crowley wrote, to be honest. I just respect the way he lived, assuming he didn't violate others.
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Can we crucify you now?
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He has come to me in my dreams and molested children in front of me just to enrage me, i ended up ripping off his wanker.
My astral handlers told me to never ever to read his stuff,
I got a new handler and i guess he thought his writings would b a good training manuel, but they just really really messed me up. But at least i know who the creepy molester was.
Read Jack Parsons he's my hero a true savior of mankind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1757708

I wouldn't be curious to read what Crowley wrote, to be honest. I just respect the way he lived, assuming he didn't violate others.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


he violated many

the most famous is the incident of the creation of the Thoth deck

he held an artist, a young lady, in a room in his home -- forcibly, against her will -- and psychologically tortured and dominated her and forced her to paint this deck. he finally released her when he was satisfied with her work.
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Why do you condemn others for drug use but praise him?
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I don't know who you're referring to here, but my two cents: Crowley was a drug user, not a drug abuser. He fully understood the implications of drug use on his being.
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He lived life to the max,
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I just respect the way he lived,
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Why do you condemn others for drug use but praise him?
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The scorn heaped on the chosen one is felt in this life for those that have faith in him. Hmm :) Or is it :( Either way.

On Aleister Crowley...

He is a very misunderstood man. Personally, he very well may have been a saint, and he was fully aware of this. While most saints take on a role of being some sort of savior, Crowley rejected this notion in favor of seeing every man and woman as a savior in their own right. This is the beauty of his work and even the man himself. Any stories of his evil deeds are greatly exaggerated and likely extend from Crowley himself.

It's difficult to understand him and even more difficult to explain, but I'll give it a go. First off, I will compare him to L. Ron Hubbard (who stole his ideas and turned it into the COS [It's also my theory that Crowley knew this would happen/was going on and facilitated it by way of Jack Parsons for his own amusement]). Let's look at the "life story" of LRH. He created this entire mythology surrounding his life experiences that were all falsehoods. I shouldn't need to go into detail here. This was a classic Crowley move. What AC understood fully was the ancient mystery school idea of the Cult of Perception, or (and I forget who this paraphrased quote comes from) "If you can get enough people to believe a lie, then it becomes the truth". L. Ron Hubbard stole this tactic from Crowley. His use of it was influenced by Parsons. It's this train of thought that leads me to believe that much of the sinister mythology surrounding Aleister Crowley stems from the man himself.

Now, to understand Crowley a bit more, we'll look at two examples. In The Book of the Law, he claims that it was divinely inspired by an Egyptian god who called themself Aiwass. Pronounce this phonetically, and it's "I Was". This is a play on the "I Am" of the Old Testament. It was one of Crowley's jokes. He was raised in a strictly Hebraic from of Christianity. Eventually, he came to see hypocracies and inconsistencies within these teachings as a young child. Eventually, he'd write those beliefs in a very polarized fashion, using self-flagellation as a motif. This belief was said to be inspired by Aiwass, or "I Was". Get it?

The second example is the story of Crowley posing as a Catholic writer. He apparently wrote a book that contained him talking out of his ass making fun of Catholic beliefs, but writing it in a style that seemed authentically Catholic. The work went so far as to be published by a Catholic press and lauded by Catholic critics. Later on, he revealed that it was written by the Catholic Church's arch-enemy, the "wickedest man in the world", Aleister Crowley. Do you see his sense of humor?

He was a prankster, forebearer of Tim Leary, Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. By no means was he an evil man. In fact, he understood the principles of the Judeo-Christian faith better than the faith's scholars and took it upon himself to advance them by way of challenging them. During this process, he willingly became a villain. This does not seem typical of an ego-driven man. That's not to say he didn't have an ego -- I'm sure he thoroughly enjoyed all of the negative press. That said, though, he was a more righteous figure than many gave him credit as being.
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Great writing, thanks.
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I just respect the way he lived,
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"Crowley would eventually introduce the practice of male homosexual sex magick into O.T.O. as one of the highest degrees of the Order."

Did you enjoy it as much?
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What a bunch of lame pansies who think he was something sinister. Very interesting man.

He lived life to the max, but of course, there can only be one New Age Messiah. sun

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Did you read a book written about him recently ? When I saw the title of the thread I was going to ask if the author was, lon milo duquette , but now I'm not sure , maybe you read his Wikipedia bio. I was just curious if anyone was familar with lon milo duquette's bio of Crowley ?
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He has come to me in my dreams and molested children in front of me just to enrage me, i ended up ripping off his wanker.
My astral handlers told me to never ever to read his stuff,
I got a new handler and i guess he thought his writings would b a good training manuel, but they just really really messed me up. But at least i know who the creepy molester was.
Read Jack Parsons he's my hero a true savior of mankind.
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I wouldn't be curious to read what Crowley wrote, to be honest. I just respect the way he lived, assuming he didn't violate others.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


He definatly violated me and I would say all of mankind, you'd unde rstand that if u knew about his agenda.
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What exactly, was Crowley's agenda?
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He definatly violated me and I would say all of mankind, you'd unde rstand that if u knew about his agenda.
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What was his agenda? Sounds like he mostly just wanted to be real.
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He definatly violated me and I would say all of mankind, you'd unde rstand that if u knew about his agenda.
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What was his agenda? Sounds like he mostly just wanted to be real.
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then why did he make so much stuff up?
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He definatly violated me and I would say all of mankind, you'd unde rstand that if u knew about his agenda.
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What was his agenda? Sounds like he mostly just wanted to be real.
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then why did he make so much stuff up?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Like what?
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He has come to me in my dreams and molested children in front of me just to enrage me, i ended up ripping off his wanker.
My astral handlers told me to never ever to read his stuff,
I got a new handler and i guess he thought his writings would b a good training manuel, but they just really really messed me up. But at least i know who the creepy molester was.
Read Jack Parsons he's my hero a true savior of mankind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1757708

I wouldn't be curious to read what Crowley wrote, to be honest. I just respect the way he lived, assuming he didn't violate others.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


he violated many

the most famous is the incident of the creation of the Thoth deck

he held an artist, a young lady, in a room in his home -- forcibly, against her will -- and psychologically tortured and dominated her and forced her to paint this deck. he finally released her when he was satisfied with her work.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Wow, that dosnt suprise me but I've never heard of this. Is there information out there about this ? I'm gonna look , of not would you mind sharing more about this story of Crowley and the woman and the tarot deck he "suppusudly" designed ?
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He definatly violated me and I would say all of mankind, you'd unde rstand that if u knew about his agenda.
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What was his agenda? Sounds like he mostly just wanted to be real.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


then why did he make so much stuff up?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Like what?
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


OP, are you saying that A.C. was not envolved with sacraficing or violating children in any kind of way?
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He definatly violated me and I would say all of mankind, you'd unde rstand that if u knew about his agenda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1757708

What was his agenda? Sounds like he mostly just wanted to be real.
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then why did he make so much stuff up?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Quoting my earlier post: "He was a prankster."

It was an artistic statement. He viewed so many people in different religions (mainly Christianity) believing lies as truth that he made up lies and saw how many people he could convince that those lies were gospel. It was a ruse. He was having fun. There was nothing sinister about it. In fact, it was quite light-hearted. He didn't care about the ramifications, which may have been an error, but that's not for us to judge.
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What exactly, was Crowley's agenda?
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His egomanical agenda is to interfere and impede the creation of the new earth and the 1000 years of heaven and the continuation of humanity.......
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What was his agenda? Sounds like he mostly just wanted to be real.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


then why did he make so much stuff up?
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft

Like what?
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


OP, are you saying that A.C. was not envolved with sacraficing or violating children in any kind of way?
 Quoting: YOUCITY 18850702


I have no idea, according to his bio he wrote scathing stuff about human sacrifice...

"Human sacrifices are today still practised by the Jews of Eastern Europe, as is set forth at length by Sir Richard Burton in the MS which the wealthy Jews of England have compassed heaven and earth to suppress,[145] and evidenced by the ever-recurring Pogroms against which so senseless an outcry is made by those who live among those degenerate Jews who are at least not cannibals."
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What exactly, was Crowley's agenda?
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His egomanical agenda is to interfere and impede the creation of the new earth and the 1000 years of heaven and the continuation of humanity.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1757708


The truth is quite contrary, actually. He (whether intentionally or not) helped to facilitate this 1000 year period of peace. The key to entering this "aeon", as he termed it (do your research, Anonymous), is giving up religious connotations and divisions. This is what the Occult stands for. Occult is the opposite of A Cult. Every religion is a cult through its inherent nature. His agenda was getting people to give this up, which is quite similar to what Christ was trying to do 1900 years before Crowley. He poked fun at fanaticism and blind faith in religious/philosophical/political authority. Many of his adherents didn't get this. Some did. There are many that always have. Typically, they have been dejected and labeled as heretics by the same institutions that need to be overthrown in order for this 1000 period to come about. He was not an egomaniac. If he were, he'd have cared a lot more about his image. He couldn't have cared less about his image, which is why he accepted a villified role as a heretic -- a wicked man. He was standing into direct opposition to egomaniacal methods of control/authoritarian structures.
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Crowley advocated the killing of young boys in rituals. Enough said about the decency of that man.

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Before I ever heard of Crowley and just after I first learned about the illuminati amd Freemason and all this stuff which was in '07 , I found a bio at the library about A.C., the book seemed to be sticking out on the shelf for me to notice it , so I took it home and read it. The author was lon milo duquette and described A.C. In the book a lot like the OP does , he says A.C. Was very "mis understood" and blamed it his reputation on the media.
Brief backround , prior to '07 I never heard of the illumnati or Freemasons.
Some things happened and I became exposed to the truth while living in an apt/loft which used to be a Masonic temple. On 7/2/07 I had an experience with an orb which interacted with me at the masonic temple after I ate a half of mushrooms and meditated. It changed my life in many ways. It felt like a very positive experience and the feeling I felt was the most loving and safe feeling I have ever felt in my entire life, words can't explain it. So about six months later I had a totally diffrent experience envolving orbs. In the bio written by Lon Milo Duquette there were some copies of certain pages out of the Book of Law. Most of the words I could not pronounce. I had no knowledge of the occult prior to this. One night I decided to drink some mushroom tea and meditate and read some of the pages from the Book of Law. It was the worst most horrifying experience in my life. I hadn't seen or had any experience with orbs since the first time on 7/2/07, so I drank the tea , meditated , amd read the words I could hardly pronounce , I was sitting in a chair looking out my window when I saw an orb , it was orangish , then I saw a second one but as my head followed it I realized I couldn't control my neck , at all, it wouldn't move , I was stuck , then my freakin arm flew up like I was puppet or something ! I was freaking , then I flew across the room and was pinned up against the wall and while I was pinned against the wall I saw a really fast movie in my head , then I experienced what hell is like. I feel now like I was an infant playing with fire and I would highley recommend not saying weird words in old books written about satanist.
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He has come to me in my dreams and molested children in front of me just to enrage me, i ended up ripping off his wanker.
My astral handlers told me to never ever to read his stuff,
I got a new handler and i guess he thought his writings would b a good training manuel, but they just really really messed me up. But at least i know who the creepy molester was.
Read Jack Parsons he's my hero a true savior of mankind.
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I wouldn't be curious to read what Crowley wrote, to be honest. I just respect the way he lived, assuming he didn't violate others.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


he violated many

the most famous is the incident of the creation of the Thoth deck

he held an artist, a young lady, in a room in his home -- forcibly, against her will -- and psychologically tortured and dominated her and forced her to paint this deck. he finally released her when he was satisfied with her work.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


So far I haven't been able to find anything about this. Can you provide us with some more information about this please ?
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for a man who everyone calls a murderer & pedo isnt it strange that . . . .

he worked secretly with churchill
he worked secretly with the CIA
was at the top of the scottish rite
Still today he CIA uses many of his symbols from thelma
Obama was photographed wearing a crowley shirt last summer
The nazis desperately tried to get him to work with them (which he did not)
He was photographed on the rollings stones and the beatles albums
He was heavily affiliated with led zeppelin and jimmy page made it a point to buy his boleskine mansion in scotland in the early 70's
Crowley also spent much time in the company with many top politicians and philosophers and scientists of that time

makes a person wonder a little?????????
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Did I lead you that way via a comment link NAM?

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I don't mean to sound naive, but is this the same Mr. Crowley as in the Ozzy Osbourne song?
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