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If the Files That Pvt. Bradley Manning Released Were So Precious, Why was a 21-Year Old Private Allowed Access to Them?

 
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If the Files That Pvt. Bradley Manning Released Were So Precious, Why was a 21-Year Old Private Allowed Access to Them?
If the Files That Private Bradley Manning Released Were So Precious, Why Was a 21-Year Old Private Allowed Access To Them, Along With 2,500,000 Other Files?

It feels like we're in the Soviet Union watching a show trial in 1964.
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Re: If the Files That Pvt. Bradley Manning Released Were So Precious, Why was a 21-Year Old Private Allowed Access to Them?
At some point the system has to trust that their information is safe with their indoctrinated workers. Occasionally a worker slips through the cracks who has an agenda above their secretive little program. Or maybe they are PART of their program.

As a young soldier I was privy to plenty of information. They had to trust somebody at some point. And like Manning, that person was me. And plenty of others too. But like most things sensationalized, the Manning phenomenon is probably all set up. A clever ruse.

Guys from my platoon still have home videos of the gulf war that would make most folks vomit on their shirt. A quick call to CNN or an anonymous post here and there and I guarantee the whole nation would be in turmoil in a matter of hours over what really went on there.

But people like us don't want the attention. Of course there are nefarious goings-on. And there already exists a surplus of information that should be worthy of revolution. But people will never come together and will never do anything to fix the problems. Why add to the turmoil. The masses are drooling morons. Those of us holding info know it. Nobody will do anything and exposing YET more lies will never work.

People like manning are usually pawns in the bigger game of chess. But if this world is going to fix itself, there must be a massive awakening. Bradly manning releasing some files, whether genuine or not, is like throwing a grape at a train.
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At some point the system has to trust that their information is safe with their indoctrinated workers. Occasionally a worker slips through the cracks who has an agenda above their secretive little program. Or maybe they are PART of their program.

As a young soldier I was privy to plenty of information. They had to trust somebody at some point. And like Manning, that person was me. And plenty of others too. But like most things sensationalized, the Manning phenomenon is probably all set up. A clever ruse.

Guys from my platoon still have home videos of the gulf war that would make most folks vomit on their shirt. A quick call to CNN or an anonymous post here and there and I guarantee the whole nation would be in turmoil in a matter of hours over what really went on there.

But people like us don't want the attention. Of course there are nefarious goings-on. And there already exists a surplus of information that should be worthy of revolution. But people will never come together and will never do anything to fix the problems. Why add to the turmoil. The masses are drooling morons. Those of us holding info know it. Nobody will do anything and exposing YET more lies will never work.

People like manning are usually pawns in the bigger game of chess. But if this world is going to fix itself, there must be a massive awakening. Bradly manning releasing some files, whether genuine or not, is like throwing a grape at a train.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22232752


That was one of the most insightful posts I've ever read. I can't agree more with you.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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At some point the system has to trust that their information is safe with their indoctrinated workers. Occasionally a worker slips through the cracks who has an agenda above their secretive little program. Or maybe they are PART of their program.

As a young soldier I was privy to plenty of information. They had to trust somebody at some point. And like Manning, that person was me. And plenty of others too. But like most things sensationalized, the Manning phenomenon is probably all set up. A clever ruse.

Guys from my platoon still have home videos of the gulf war that would make most folks vomit on their shirt. A quick call to CNN or an anonymous post here and there and I guarantee the whole nation would be in turmoil in a matter of hours over what really went on there.

But people like us don't want the attention. Of course there are nefarious goings-on. And there already exists a surplus of information that should be worthy of revolution. But people will never come together and will never do anything to fix the problems. Why add to the turmoil. The masses are drooling morons. Those of us holding info know it. Nobody will do anything and exposing YET more lies will never work.

People like manning are usually pawns in the bigger game of chess. But if this world is going to fix itself, there must be a massive awakening. Bradly manning releasing some files, whether genuine or not, is like throwing a grape at a train.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22232752


If you wouldn't mind, private message/mail me. I'd like to ask you a few things about the Gulf War. Or feel free to post it. If you'd rather do neither, I understand. But I'd like to ask you something. Thanks.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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WikiLeaks is a psy-ops designed to release information that the government never could officially.
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Re: If the Files That Pvt. Bradley Manning Released Were So Precious, Why was a 21-Year Old Private Allowed Access to Them?
At some point the system has to trust that their information is safe with their indoctrinated workers. Occasionally a worker slips through the cracks who has an agenda above their secretive little program. Or maybe they are PART of their program.

As a young soldier I was privy to plenty of information. They had to trust somebody at some point. And like Manning, that person was me. And plenty of others too. But like most things sensationalized, the Manning phenomenon is probably all set up. A clever ruse.

Guys from my platoon still have home videos of the gulf war that would make most folks vomit on their shirt. A quick call to CNN or an anonymous post here and there and I guarantee the whole nation would be in turmoil in a matter of hours over what really went on there.

But people like us don't want the attention. Of course there are nefarious goings-on. And there already exists a surplus of information that should be worthy of revolution. But people will never come together and will never do anything to fix the problems. Why add to the turmoil. The masses are drooling morons. Those of us holding info know it. Nobody will do anything and exposing YET more lies will never work.

People like manning are usually pawns in the bigger game of chess. But if this world is going to fix itself, there must be a massive awakening. Bradly manning releasing some files, whether genuine or not, is like throwing a grape at a train.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22232752


That was one of the most insightful posts I've ever read. I can't agree more with you.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


They told me that if I ever told anyone the things I knew, that

A. No one in a position to do anything would ever believe me anyway, and

B. Whoever I told would just go running back to them to rat me out.
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Re: If the Files That Pvt. Bradley Manning Released Were So Precious, Why was a 21-Year Old Private Allowed Access to Them?
At some point the system has to trust that their information is safe with their indoctrinated workers. Occasionally a worker slips through the cracks who has an agenda above their secretive little program. Or maybe they are PART of their program.

As a young soldier I was privy to plenty of information. They had to trust somebody at some point. And like Manning, that person was me. And plenty of others too. But like most things sensationalized, the Manning phenomenon is probably all set up. A clever ruse.

Guys from my platoon still have home videos of the gulf war that would make most folks vomit on their shirt. A quick call to CNN or an anonymous post here and there and I guarantee the whole nation would be in turmoil in a matter of hours over what really went on there.

But people like us don't want the attention. Of course there are nefarious goings-on. And there already exists a surplus of information that should be worthy of revolution. But people will never come together and will never do anything to fix the problems. Why add to the turmoil. The masses are drooling morons. Those of us holding info know it. Nobody will do anything and exposing YET more lies will never work.

People like manning are usually pawns in the bigger game of chess. But if this world is going to fix itself, there must be a massive awakening. Bradly manning releasing some files, whether genuine or not, is like throwing a grape at a train.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22232752


That was one of the most insightful posts I've ever read. I can't agree more with you.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


They told me that if I ever told anyone the things I knew, that

A. No one in a position to do anything would ever believe me anyway, and

B. Whoever I told would just go running back to them to rat me out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29126824


Private message me.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.

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