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Is religion a mental illness? Or does it exploit mental illness?

 
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Wonderful insights from (most) of the people in this thread! Thank for your thoughts =]
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it would appear OP's mental illness has caused him to flee from certain facts
within his own thread

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest
his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)
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What if everything IS God?
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God created everything,
or everything created itself
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What if everything IS God?
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Wonderful insights from (most) of the people in this thread! Thank for your thoughts =]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

it would appear OP's mental illness has caused him to flee from certain facts
within his own thread

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest
his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)

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The Bible is no more fact than any other book.
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God created everything,
or everything created itself
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What if everything IS God?
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that's just another way of saying that everything created itself and that there is no God

calling "white" "black" does not change the fact that it's "white"
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God created everything,
or everything created itself
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What if everything IS God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

that's just another way of saying that everything created itself and that there is no God

calling "white" "black" does not change the fact that it's "white"
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But if all things come from God, wouldn't everything in existence be a part of God? How else could it exist?
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Wonderful insights from (most) of the people in this thread! Thank for your thoughts =]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

it would appear OP's mental illness has caused him to flee from certain facts
within his own thread

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest
his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


The Bible is no more fact than any other book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

A complex creation must have a creator (Rom. 1:20).

That's why you never see a tornado rip through a junkyard and accidentally
assemble a fully fueled and functioning 747 jet airplane.

Since their must be a creator, it is most important that man find out who God is
(John 1:1) and what God wants (Eccl. 12:13).

God says man will know the Bible is the Word of the one, true living God
because it is the only Word that always tells the absolute truth about
everything (Isa. 42:9, 46:10, Deut. 4:35).

It does.

"The reason people scoff at the Bible is because of their lifestyle. They don't
want there to be a God, because God interferes with their lifestyle, and so
they scoff at the Bible because of their lusts." - Kent Hovind



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A complex creation must have a creator (Rom. 1:20).

That's why you never see a tornado rip through a junkyard and accidentally
assemble a fully fueled and functioning 747 jet airplane.

Since their must be a creator, it is most important that man find out who God is
(John 1:1) and what God wants (Eccl. 12:13).

God says man will know the Bible is the Word of the one, true living God
because it is the only Word that always tells the absolute truth about
everything (Isa. 42:9, 46:10, Deut. 4:35).

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Please stop using the Bible to prove the Bible is true. That will never convince anyone with a modicum of common sense.
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Just curious.

I personally think it's a cleverly executed attack on people with a tendency towards paranoid delusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
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Religion gives people the tools for which to live, it also gave people a chance to get together once a week, and reaffirm those Christian values, and those neighborly ties. This was very important in our formalative years in coming together as a society, and a soft landing in the introduction of laws which formalized these values.

Are great thinkers religious? No, great thinkers must be free of such concepts as religion. Although their bodies must abide by the laws of man, and their social responsibilities, their minds must be free to wander, and to question, and to weigh, and to see from all perspectives.

We, on the lunatic fringe are the great thinkers of this age, and we are ridiculed the same way as the thinkers of old were. We come together, exchange knowledge, explore alternative ideologies, always questioning, always sharing, always changing. Just like the great thinkers, Pluto, Aristotle, Jesus.

So, is religion a mental illness? Is my post the rambling of an insane woman? Or a wise fool? You'll never know.
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Very well said, Aunty Flo!!

Kismet
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It's a twisted way to think. Totally outside the box.
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A complex creation must have a creator (Rom. 1:20).

That's why you never see a tornado rip through a junkyard and accidentally
assemble a fully fueled and functioning 747 jet airplane.

Since their must be a creator, it is most important that man find out who God is
(John 1:1) and what God wants (Eccl. 12:13).

God says man will know the Bible is the Word of the one, true living God
because it is the only Word that always tells the absolute truth about
everything (Isa. 42:9, 46:10, Deut. 4:35).

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Please stop using the Bible to prove the Bible is true. That will never convince anyone with a modicum of common sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

Don't let the Bible citations throw you chief.

Ignore those, and you still have an explanation that puts your sad, evil religion to shame.
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Re: Is religion a mental illness? Or does it exploit mental illness?
Just curious.

I personally think it's a cleverly executed attack on people with a tendency towards paranoid delusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

There are only 2 religions, and everyone has one.

Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

Being "open to a multitude of possibilities" doesn't change
the fact that there are only 2.

But you well know this, you wicked deceiver.
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Re: Is religion a mental illness? Or does it exploit mental illness?
Just curious.

I personally think it's a cleverly executed attack on people with a tendency towards paranoid delusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

There are only 2 religions, and everyone has one.

Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

Being "open to a multitude of possibilities" doesn't change
the fact that there are only 2.

But you well know this, you wicked deceiver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


What if I believe God but I don't ascribe to any religion?
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Re: Is religion a mental illness? Or does it exploit mental illness?
Just curious.

I personally think it's a cleverly executed attack on people with a tendency towards paranoid delusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

There are only 2 religions, and everyone has one.

Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

Being "open to a multitude of possibilities" doesn't change
the fact that there are only 2.

But you well know this, you wicked deceiver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Only two you say?
Fuck me but you are an arrogant little cunt...
Who/what created god?
Or was it an immaculate masturbation session?!
If that is the extent of your intellectual capacity it may just be feeding time :-)
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Just curious.

I personally think it's a cleverly executed attack on people with a tendency towards paranoid delusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

There are only 2 religions, and everyone has one.

Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

Being "open to a multitude of possibilities" doesn't change
the fact that there are only 2.

But you well know this, you wicked deceiver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Actually, the 3rd possibility is that there was no beginning.
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I don't think religion is a mental illness. That said, I do think people with mental illness will take it a bit too far. To me, those seem to be the radical fundamentalists of any religion.
"Well-behaved women seldom make history." —Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale
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your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

There are only 2 religions, and everyone has one.

Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

Being "open to a multitude of possibilities" doesn't change
the fact that there are only 2.

But you well know this, you wicked deceiver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


What if I believe God but I don't ascribe to any religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321

Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14) is not a religion, He is the truth (John 14:6).

Everything else is a 'religion.'

When you say you believe god, you are talking about yourself as a living god.

God, the Word (John 1:1), is available to all to read and understand, whereas
your god is your own personal lusts.
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your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

There are only 2 religions, and everyone has one.

Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

Being "open to a multitude of possibilities" doesn't change
the fact that there are only 2.

But you well know this, you wicked deceiver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Only two you say?
Fuck me but you are an arrogant little cunt...
Who/what created god?
Or was it an immaculate masturbation session?!
If that is the extent of your intellectual capacity it may just be feeding time :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. (Isa. 43:10)

Someone who believes they're a living god calling a witness for God "arrogant" is sad.
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I don't think religion is a mental illness. That said, I do think people with mental illness will take it a bit too far. To me, those seem to be the radical fundamentalists of any religion.
 Quoting: Southern OR

everyone is a radical fundamentalist believer in their religion

as of now, you are a radical fundamental believer in yourself as a living god
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Freedom of Conscience/Religion is foundational to Freedom & Liberty. You may not agree with others' religion but atheistic violence begins with such rhetoric as yours.
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I think most people who believe in a higher power of some sort - an infinitely consistent variable that's part of every equation in existence - do so out of comfort. It benefits their personal lives and I think it's safe to say that most people have no problem with that.

However, so many people become stubborn in a belief out of fear. They think that if they even consider the possibility of being wrong, they will be punished both in this life and the following one(s) because they've been wired to think that way. If that isn't the definition of superstition, I don't know what is.
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your religion that you accidentally evolved from a soup of water and rocks billions
of years ago is certainly a sick delusion...call it mental illness if you like
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


I love the way religitards always assume that anyone who is not religious is an evolutionist.
Are you people that fucking stupid?
Seriously, we don't all 'believe' in evolution. Most of us are open to a multitude of possibilities with regards the origins of humankind.

And even if some of us do 'believe' in evolution and that we evolved from some primordial sludge, we don't get on our knees and attempt having a personal relationship with it!

You muppet!
:-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28888125

There are only 2 religions, and everyone has one.

Either God created everything, or everything created itself.

Being "open to a multitude of possibilities" doesn't change
the fact that there are only 2.

But you well know this, you wicked deceiver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Actually, the 3rd possibility is that there was no beginning.
 Quoting: Brian Moser

that's not a 3rd possibility, that's just another way of saying there is no God
and everything created itself

that's what happens to your brains when taking psychedelics and whoring
after the filth spewed by this satanic wizard:

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Freedom of Conscience/Religion is foundational to Freedom & Liberty. You may not agree with others' religion but atheistic violence begins with such rhetoric as yours.
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you are preaching a false religion, you are not god, God is God (John 1:1)
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I don't think religion is a mental illness. That said, I do think people with mental illness will take it a bit too far. To me, those seem to be the radical fundamentalists of any religion.
 Quoting: Southern OR

everyone is a radical fundamentalist believer in their religion

as of now, you are a radical fundamental believer in yourself as a living god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


You gave me a good laugh with that one. I am just a tiny soul in the grand scheme of things. How can one choose the "correct" religion? Perhaps each one has a piece, and the puzzle can only be completed when they all come together and agree on the larger picture? It would seem more could be achieved by working together than by arguing or warring over who is correct.
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I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale
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I think most people who believe in a higher power of some sort - an infinitely consistent variable that's part of every equation in existence - do so out of comfort. It benefits their personal lives and I think it's safe to say that most people have no problem with that.

However, so many people become stubborn in a belief out of fear. They think that if they even consider the possibility of being wrong, they will be punished both in this life and the following one(s) because they've been wired to think that way. If that isn't the definition of superstition, I don't know what is.
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see, psychedelics make a person feel like their nonsensical ramblings actually
mean something

either God created everything, or everything created itself

though satan would have you believe otherwise, it's that simple
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Depends on what you consider "religion" to be.

The bible defines religion thus:

"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."

Do you consider people who do such things to be mentally ill? I'm pretty sure that Satan thinks so, but how about you?
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I don't think religion is a mental illness. That said, I do think people with mental illness will take it a bit too far. To me, those seem to be the radical fundamentalists of any religion.
 Quoting: Southern OR

everyone is a radical fundamentalist believer in their religion

as of now, you are a radical fundamental believer in yourself as a living god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


You gave me a good laugh with that one. I am just a tiny soul in the grand scheme of things. How can one choose the "correct" religion? Perhaps each one has a piece, and the puzzle can only be completed when they all come together and agree on the larger picture? It would seem more could be achieved by working together than by arguing or warring over who is correct.
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a complex creation must have a creator...have you ever seen a tornado
accidentally assemble a jet plane?

so there must be a God, one God, one truth

God makes the rules, not his creation

God says man will know the Bible is His Word because it is the only Word
that always tells the truth about everything

And it does. It is the Word of God
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Depends on what you consider "religion" to be.

The bible defines religion thus:

"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28765560

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by
every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matt. 4:4)

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish
ought from it
, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which
I command you. (Deut. 4:2)


Do you consider people who do such things to be mentally ill? I'm pretty sure that Satan thinks so, but how about you?
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It doesn't matter what I think, only what God says:

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
(Isa. 64:6)

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I
am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)
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I don't think religion is a mental illness. That said, I do think people with mental illness will take it a bit too far. To me, those seem to be the radical fundamentalists of any religion.
 Quoting: Southern OR

everyone is a radical fundamentalist believer in their religion

as of now, you are a radical fundamental believer in yourself as a living god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


You gave me a good laugh with that one. I am just a tiny soul in the grand scheme of things. How can one choose the "correct" religion? Perhaps each one has a piece, and the puzzle can only be completed when they all come together and agree on the larger picture? It would seem more could be achieved by working together than by arguing or warring over who is correct.
 Quoting: Southern OR

a complex creation must have a creator...have you ever seen a tornado
accidentally assemble a jet plane?

so there must be a God, one God, one truth

God makes the rules, not his creation

God says man will know the Bible is His Word because it is the only Word
that always tells the truth about everything

And it does. It is the Word of God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


Which bible? Old testament, New testament, Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Muslim (yes, they pick and choose to add to the Qur'an), Jewish, Catholic?
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I think it causes mental illness. Out of my family I'm the only one who escaped.
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Good on you! I and a couple of family members escaped from years of it too but I have lost about 5-10 friends over the past 10 years to the illness. It sucks...they are gone, you can't help them, you can't change shit. They are just gone and it is sad.





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