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Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
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grabbed the pic above from a friends source... they are advertising radiation for products rather than price.... just wow.....

ok, from a safety and security stand point... awesome... but a little creepy knowing it has 'active' ingredients?... and the recklessly erroneous reporting already admitted to is sad :(......

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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
So what is the safe threshold in bq/kg? My understanding is that one alpha emitter such as plutonium inhaled in the lungs can damage 10,000 cells. No radiation over background would be my preference!
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
So what is the safe threshold in bq/kg? My understanding is that one alpha emitter such as plutonium inhaled in the lungs can damage 10,000 cells. No radiation over background would be my preference!
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<snip>

Japanese tuna trace radioactive path
Tuesday, 29 May 2012 Rachel Sullivan
ABC

Safety limits
The researchers found the combined Cs concentration in the fish caught in 2011 was up to ten times higher than in other years, but total radiocaesium concentrations were still significantly below the current Japanese safety limit.

Radioceasium levels also varied depending on the tuna's amount of exposure, their size and radioactive decay over time.

Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ), which monitors the situation in Japan in consultation with the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA) say the levels in the fish are not of concern.

"The levels of Cs-137 (6.3+/- 1.4 Bq/kg) and Cs-134 (4.0+/- 1.5 Bq/kg) in Pacific bluefin tuna [in this report] do not represent any health concerns for Australian consumers," says a FSANZ spokesperson.

"Certain foods from Japan, including fish, are subject to testing at the Australian border prior to being allowed into the food supply."

"If the combined levels of C-137 and C-134 in fish are below 1000 Bq/kg the food is considered safe and allowed into the food supply."

"The 1000 Bq/kg limit is an internationally accepted safe level."

<end snip>
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but are they the 'real' levels?, indeed, as you infer, is any level safe?....

in this article the safety level is 100 Bq/Kg

<snip>

The safety limit is 100 Bq/kg, the contaminated beef was abandoned.

They also measured 1086 Bq/Kg of cesium from the pasture.

Even though the radiation level is lower than the safety limit, other beef may be contaminated because of the pasture.

Source

Iori Mochizuki


2012-08-24 13:38:05

Source: [link to fukushima-diary.com]

<end snip>

the water is indeed muddy......

[link to beforeitsnews.com]

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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
I didn't know Greenpeace sold food.

This is an environmental agency ad, to raise awareness, not an actual ad for food.
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I didn't know Greenpeace sold food.

This is an environmental agency ad, to raise awareness, not an actual ad for food.
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good point, but given the situation, perhaps green peace is just 'putting it out there' to calm some nerves?
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
The problem is not the radiationlevels...

It is the fact that plutonium is now in the environment.

Hate to say it, but Japan is doomed.

All this will only result in evacuation of Japan and relocation to other parts of Asia. Plutonium is the baddest of the baddest and really, it is better not to hope too much and leave Japan before your DNA is shot to pieces.
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
The problem is not the radiationlevels...

It is the fact that plutonium is now in the environment.

Hate to say it, but Japan is doomed.

All this will only result in evacuation of Japan and relocation to other parts of Asia. Plutonium is the baddest of the baddest and really, it is better not to hope too much and leave Japan before your DNA is shot to pieces.
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indeed, Pu reports are now being tabled officially....
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I didn't know Greenpeace sold food.

This is an environmental agency ad, to raise awareness, not an actual ad for food.
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O.P. pawned.

dont ruin his fun!!! hes trying to make things scary!
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
The problem is not the radiationlevels...

It is the fact that plutonium is now in the environment.

Hate to say it, but Japan is doomed.

All this will only result in evacuation of Japan and relocation to other parts of Asia. Plutonium is the baddest of the baddest and really, it is better not to hope too much and leave Japan before your DNA is shot to pieces.
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thank fuck we have people like you to put things in perspective.

whatever
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
The problem is not the radiationlevels...

It is the fact that plutonium is now in the environment.

Hate to say it, but Japan is doomed.

All this will only result in evacuation of Japan and relocation to other parts of Asia. Plutonium is the baddest of the baddest and really, it is better not to hope too much and leave Japan before your DNA is shot to pieces.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28844658


Exactly, its not that easy to pick up Alpha Emitters. And a lot of plutonium has been released in Japan. In one of the recent stories on Enenews almost as much plutonium was released as Cesium at 11km from the accident. Still if the safe limits for 134/137 are known from nuclear testing and accidents, isn't there usually plutonium in the mix? Mox fuel only provides less than a 10 percent increase in plutonium does it not?
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
Ohhh nose...what if Al-CIAda obtains some Japanese produce then blows up a dirty cabbage on Wall Street?

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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
Wow, its like the game "Fallout". Strange world we live in.
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
The Japanese people are reduced to being filters. Living filters.

At the end of the foodchain, all will accumulate in those who eat anything off the land.

They will slowly die and thus absorbing the plutonium in their bodies. Along with anything else that is alive there.

If you want to make money, and what I hear is true, then bet on a total collapse over time. It may just take 5 years before the full effects become apparent to the common people.

Dont think for a minute that anyone in Japan with half a brain and money to spend is eating anything originating from Japan.

Here in China, EVERYTHING from Japan is now checked for radiation. Ships are being sent back.

Exports to China have collapsed and how long do you think the politicians can pretend all is well and there is still hope?

If you know anything about science, plutonium, and you take time to think then you will know the sad truth: Japan is a dead man walking and the clock is ticking....
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
The People here dont get it,
our max allowed Level here in Japan
is 100 Bq which is very low,
the People in the USA, Australia or Canada are still
eating Food with up to 1.000 Bq.!
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
Fish is not the main carrier of radionuclides. This fact since discovery is known in Lithuania for some time now. Was aired on TV several times. Radiation is not confined in water bodies. Radionuclides constantly surface from the bottom with organic material.
This effect was found and mostly expressed in lakes where water level does not change a lot and forms a highly radioactive line where water meets coast with accumulated sediment of floating particles. According to old or more strict regulations this line should have been cleaned up in lots of lakes despite numerous decades since anything serious. EU regulations are less strict and everything is within limits.
Oceans do not have strict line, but it is highly likely that surfaced sediment in the same way goes to the shorelines and accumulates there or is dispersed with waves through droplets into the air at the seaside.

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The People here dont get it,
our max allowed Level here in Japan
is 100 Bq which is very low,
the People in the USA, Australia or Canada are still
eating Food with up to 1.000 Bq.!
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charlie

quite sad really.
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Greenpeace are a bunch of sell outs.
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Greenpeace are a bunch of sell outs.
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you would think they would scream blue murder.......
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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
politely.. about how many 1 stars does it take to wake your people up and demand a response to fix things......
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Do the Op do not realize that this
is a Advertisment for and Pro- Greenpeace
and not the weekly Shopping Guide?


When i watch for our Citizen Network
and trust them i can still buy Fish
which is free of Contamination and
even the highest Amount of Contamination
in Sea-Fish is still under 100 Bq,
the only thing i would avoid are Sea-Fruits
from the East of Japan!
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Do the Op do not realize that this
is a Advertisment for and Pro- Greenpeace
and not the weekly Shopping Guide?


When i watch for our Citizen Network
and trust them i can still buy Fish
which is free of Contamination and
even the highest Amount of Contamination
in Sea-Fish is still under 100 Bq,
the only thing i would avoid are Sea-Fruits
from the East of Japan!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28245035


yes i do, and thankyou for pointing it out.. but it is still a saluted buying guide.... when i buy or catch a fish i don't think Bq/Kg..... sorry, get used to it.. and further, your comment makes it transparent that you are comfortable with this.....

.. its smacks of public assurance and safety, when the evidence points otherwise....

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No, it is not a "Buying Guide"
but an Advertisement that is showing
the danger of Nuclear Energy!


And yes, for us in Japan it became "normal"
to look and think about the Contamination,
People everywhere should do this because
nearly every single Country got a nuclear Problem rofl
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No, it is not a "Buying Guide"
but an Advertisement that is showing
the danger of Nuclear Energy!


And yes, for us in Japan it became "normal"
to look and think about the Contamination,
People everywhere should do this because
nearly every single Country got a nuclear Problem rofl
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do you HONESTLY....... HONESTLY, sleep well with children and families there?.. HONESTLY?

(you could be the first country to take a step forward).....

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Re: Advertising price per Bq/Kg for foods stuff in Japan rather than price..... speechless.....
@ Cp,

yes, we do!

You can't escape from your Destiny,
the Life is everywhere dangerous and
not only here in Japan!

The Life here comes with Typhoons,
Landslides, Earthquakes and now
with this type of radiactive Contamination,
we need to learn how we can live with her
because there is no place to hide
also we need to reduce other harm
like reducing the Danger from Chemicals,
Traffic and social Dangers to bring
back a type of Equilibration!

And we need a better Education because
our Kids need to learn how to minimize
the Risks and how to eliminate the Poison,
this mean that we, the Adults, need to give
our best to prepare them!

FYI: do you know that you as a smoking
Person who smoke ca. 20 Cigarettes a day
produce ca. 150 Millisievert a year?
This is ca. 200 Times as much Radioactivity
than the People get in the north of Tokyo,
when you have Kids this means that you
are killing them, much more than Tepco do!

Face the Reality, be Responsible and Humble
but do not forget to live your Life
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@ Cp,

yes, we do!

You can't escape from your Destiny,
the Life is everywhere dangerous and
not only here in Japan!

The Life here comes with Typhoons,
Landslides, Earthquakes and now
with this type of radiactive Contamination,
we need to learn how we can live with her
because there is no place to hide
also we need to reduce other harm
like reducing the Danger from Chemicals,
Traffic and social Dangers to bring
back a type of Equilibration!

And we need a better Education because
our Kids need to learn how to minimize
the Risks and how to eliminate the Poison,
this mean that we, the Adults, need to give
our best to prepare them!

FYI: do you know that you as a smoking
Person who smoke ca. 20 Cigarettes a day
produce ca. 150 Millisievert a year?
This is ca. 200 Times as much Radioactivity
than the People get in the north of Tokyo,
when you have Kids this means that you
are killing them, much more than Tepco do!

Face the Reality, be Responsible and Humble
but do not forget to live your Life
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28245035


The amount of Polonium 210 in cigarettes is not high enough to cause immediate damage. It is in the Picocuries is it not? If you reach a critical threshold of the deadlier isotopes your going to be in series trouble. The relevent question is, how much of the most damaging isotopes are the Japanese going to be consuming in the long run?
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is dispersed with waves through droplets into the air at the seaside.
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'buckyballs'

Radioactive buckyballs from Fukushima invade California beaches
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is dispersed with waves through droplets into the air at the seaside.
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'buckyballs'

Radioactive buckyballs from Fukushima invade California beaches
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 Quoting: Waterbug


Then this guess was right after all.

Some Lithuanian TV took an interview from scientist much more than 5 years ago about lakes and he told about constantly surfacing sediments that are washed to the shore and form radioactive (above background level) line. These news were caught up by reporters and public, so this interview was repeated several times (with question is it dangerous?) where scientist repeated that they are making scientific research and do not perform environmental control. Representative of agency responsible for that added that radioactivity is not above legal limits there.
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politely.. about how many 1 stars does it take to wake your people up and demand a response to fix things......
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ok, so were awake, now what? shall we post stuff on an internet forum?
youve been awake to the problem for so long, what are you doing?
Complaining about how many 1 stars you get in your quest for popularity on an internet forum?

I think its time you got a new hobby.
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politely.. about how many 1 stars does it take to wake your people up and demand a response to fix things......
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ok, so were awake, now what? shall we post stuff on an internet forum?
youve been awake to the problem for so long, what are you doing?
Complaining about how many 1 stars you get in your quest for popularity on an internet forum?

I think its time you got a new hobby.
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it would be nice if they sorted something out; then I would go make a nice hot cuppa, soundly applaud, sigh with relief and stop posting, not so much about popularity as insuring people get to see the 'whole' picture, not just the 'it's all ok' argument....

don't worry, the longer this goes on the more that they will have to admit to... it seems that if TEPCO had its way, we would all be saying it is fine and no problem... this is certainly not the case....
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The funniest part is that the contamination is in no way localized to the nation of japan...

Its not diluted... Its dispersed, evenly across multiple nations...

Everyday there is more...

2 years no containment...

Cancers are beginning to skyrocket...

Think 10 years or 20...
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CitizenPerth.

I really am worried about you. You seem see life only through doom.
Seek help my friend before you wife thinks you are a total tool.
Maybe its too late...

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