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Don't go into the light when you die.

 
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One time during an out of body travel, I left an etheric projection (staring at a wall in a relatively mundane house) and entered an astral projection (flying out over a high energy replica of a mid western City) via mindful meditation.

Point is, no need to traverse through a scene... especially if it is booby trapped with spirit bait. Simply go within...
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hell planet, my ass
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It is hell if a person is born into some shitty, horrible place in Africa or South America, or a really trashy, crappy place in some other part of the world.

Look at all the misery and horror some humans are stuck with from the day they're born to the day they die. You'd have to be a masochist to want to be trapped in a life like that.

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Well I was born in America buddy and it aint too sweet here either.


I know a few people in African and South America who had easier lives than I did.


So don't be ingnorant all of your life.




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[googlevid] the more i've learned,the less i know,perhaps it's a test of faith.i was very ill,and i had crippleig arthriyus in one knee mostly,a psychic,who i just went too cos mum gave me it as a present,she turned aroud at end saying she'd been told to give me an angel type tape for med.i tried it for 14 days,then suddenly i saw a blue ball light running up and down thet leg.next day i woke up with no pain and no pills needed for last 7 years.i also got taken away by beings of light,and it was pure bliss,like bathing in love,no worries even for my child.i begged to stay with them,but told it would burn me out,i had to come back.i trust them and am more scared of being left alone in desolation.
church of euthanasia.
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The best way to avoid the 'soul trap' after death is to stop believing in reincarnation. Beliefs are powerful, so if you believe in reincarnation, you are going to be attracted to it after death. It's not going to help by avoiding the light (which only keeps you in the lower planes, which are naturally dark, with little or no light). While you are wandering in the lower dark planes, you will be approached by entities who share your belief in reincarnation. You will be convinced that you need to reincarnate, that everyone does it, that it cannot be avoided.

The belief in reincarnation on earth is a fallacious one and prevents progression to higher spiritual realms after transition.

Numerous cases of obsession have been due to spirits who, in endeavoring to “reincarnate” in children, have found themselves imprisoned in the magnetic aura, causing great suffering to both their victims and themselves.
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Thirty Years Among the Dead by Dr. Carl Wicklund
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What about just hanging out in front of it and not doing anything?
Or maybe having a seat before you go rushing into something else?

I guess they'd call that purgatory?

Op, if you can go "around" the light, shouldn't you be able to see up, down, left, and right of the light. Hmmm.
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Stop and think. You're right don't rush into anything. "FEEL" your way through. Not going to the light does not mean earthbound or purgatory. See what happens. You should not feel compelled to do anything.

You must navigate your way through the dimensional prison grid and escape the earthly perimeter.
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Thank you.

I've been so asleep the past several incarnations I couldn't leave - couldn't go back home. I guess I just finally accepted that I was stuck here....but you - you give me hope.

Thank you so much. hugs :')
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The best way to avoid the 'soul trap' after death is to stop believing in reincarnation. Beliefs are powerful, so if you believe in reincarnation, you are going to be attracted to it after death. It's not going to help by avoiding the light (which only keeps you in the lower planes, which are naturally dark, with little or no light). While you are wandering in the lower dark planes, you will be approached by entities who share your belief in reincarnation. You will be convinced that you need to reincarnate, that everyone does it, that it cannot be avoided.

The belief in reincarnation on earth is a fallacious one and prevents progression to higher spiritual realms after transition.

Numerous cases of obsession have been due to spirits who, in endeavoring to “reincarnate” in children, have found themselves imprisoned in the magnetic aura, causing great suffering to both their victims and themselves.
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Wow! I recently had a dream RIGHT about that.
One of my brothers (a dream character, not real people) told me "do not believe in reincarnation".

The whole reincarnation stuff, along with the karma BS, always has been smelly of a trap system to me, designed to get you stuck instead of becoming free to do whatever you want and go wherever you feel like going. It would also "cheapen" the value of your relationships.
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when you die, if you are confused about where to go, you have done something wrong.
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Don't even think about that idea..."you will".

Because You once died.....have "no will".

Because where there is " the Will You have the Way".

But once You die..."Your Way" is cut off from "You" and there fore so is "Your Will".

And guess what that leaves "You"?

Into "The Way" that is not by "Your Will" but "that Will" "that owns That Way".

And so it is and so be it That Power that is both The Will and The Way we all get pulled into and before once we die and are cut off from:............

The day of our own way and will in and on and of the Land of the living.


So do not worry about where you will flee to or choose to go whether left or right to or fro forward or backward.
Do not worry what you will eat what you will drink what you will wear...

For "You will Not" have any will for anything that is or has to do with "Your Own Will" or rather or prefer or even "Own Way at all".

"You" are taken.....

You are "taken".

"Taken takes you" whether you want to go or not.

Who are you "to make a choice" when you have entered the realm of "no longer your choice".

"Even You who think that very taken is Your choice you choose to take to go"...

Wow, we think this so?

How easy it is to think we can think even it so...

It is all a question that awaits and answer and this answer will be held to the one who answered that question...

It is yea or it is nay....before the end of that thinkers day.

In and on and of the land of the living.

Think that thought that thought unto and into you to think about. its thought which was given to share with in your own thoughts.

So when the time comes it can take you where you would rather be even if you can not fully understand where that place is and where the opposite to it is also.

That is why there will be no way nor will of any man to have to make any choice of who to go with or which way to go...once the man had died.

We have no worry at all in this for no one will deceive us or beguile us to go unto any such a way that would be wrong and damnable unto us..

Because no man will ever have such a way to ever die and enter into....nor any man have such a will that he dies it continues to take him his own ways by his own wills.

We have nothing to fear but death and hell its self and these are already defeated unto all who answer Yea unto The Way that is unto Life Everlasting.

For That Way is the Power and the Will that has defeated death and hell even this world...

Peace and rest unto every soul who answers yea in its life while here it does live it....and there it shall live it even much more and much better than it can ever see or know while here.
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Go around instead.
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indeed - Don't go into the light when you die.

Only in the movies that open-gate is a "just one time opportunity"...

In reality, because HE already loves you and HE has all the time in the world, HE won't mind if you will try something different first, like scouting the universe a few zillion years and when you finally think you're done, you could ask him to open "that" door again... (and he will). Why wouldn't he?
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Go around instead.




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Carol-Ann?
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Well, thank you.

I just died and chose the dark side.

Now I'm stuck in this forum forever.
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lol! That's hilarious.


I was think the same thing.






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paid your due$?
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What about just hanging out in front of it and not doing anything?
Or maybe having a seat before you go rushing into something else?

I guess they'd call that purgatory?

Op, if you can go "around" the light, shouldn't you be able to see up, down, left, and right of the light. Hmmm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407980


Stop and think. You're right don't rush into anything. "FEEL" your way through. Not going to the light does not mean earthbound or purgatory. See what happens. You should not feel compelled to do anything.

You must navigate your way through the dimensional prison grid and escape the earthly perimeter.
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its not about making choices in the moment, your intent is bare, before you understand what's happening you are reacting, in that reaction is when it comes out of nowhere onto you

that's why people spend lifetimes achieving the sage behavior, if you dont have it by the time youre dead youre done for
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Fuck You. You don't have a clue what to do or not to do and your going to tell people not too.

My mother years ago had a death experience. She died for 5 minutes on an operating table in the 60's.

She said she felt amazing peace. Felt safe and warm and cared for and loved. She was in a beautiful Valley with flowers and tree's and it was sunny and beautiful.

There was a little walk over bridge across a creek and somebody standing there waiting to take her across the bridge. This person was iluminated with white light. Their hand outreached for her. She said she really wanted to go.

But she decided to stay and told the person it was not her time. She stayed for me. She told them I was too young to be without her and that she was going too stay for a while longer.

See recovered from Death.

So don't lay that crap about the light being a bad thing when you know shit about shit. Just because you've heard some crazy fucking crap about it being a soul trap which nobody knows until the time when you do die for sure you should shut the fuck up about it.

Not going into the light could turn you into a lost soul and be stuff in the middle of nowhere forever. How the fuck would you know anything.

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Fuckin-A!
(OP) has no clue what he's talking about. And he has the
audacity to lead others down a fools errand!
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The light is God. Why would you want to avoid God, unless of course you've done something you are ashamed of?

Reincarnation is not forced. It is a choice. If you aren't satisfied with a life well lived, you can choose to try again. If not, you can remain in the spirit realm carrying that unresolved karmic burden for the rest of eternity. Your choice.
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The light is God. Why would you want to avoid God, unless of course you've done something you are ashamed of?

Reincarnation is not forced. It is a choice. If you aren't satisfied with a life well lived, you can choose to try again. If not, you can remain in the spirit realm carrying that unresolved karmic burden for the rest of eternity. Your choice.
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You can amend the wrongs you have done while you are in the afterlife, before you can advance to higher planes. (You don't have to reincarnate, ie. attach your spirit to a baby on earth.) For instance if you harmed someone, you can become that person's guardian angel for a while and by helping him, repay the wrong you did. Or if you hated and abused your child, you can work with abused children in the afterlife and help to mend their spirits, thus making amends in the afterlife for the wrongs you did in this life.
We will all make amends for the wrongs we have done, if not in this life, then in the afterlife, and we will be able to receive guidance as to how best to do that, if we ask for the help.
Our future in the afterlife is endless and unlimited in its possibilities.
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FWIW - I've read that there are two lights...

One white - Stay away from this one

One magenta - THIS is the one you want to go in.
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Did you guys ever read the book that was written by a brain surgeon that did not believe in SHIT. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Soul Nothing. believed that people who had near death experiences were full of shit or delusional. I mean this guy was empty. Void of anything. When your dead your dead.

Then he died. Brain dead. His doctors said no way. Brain mush. Pull the plug.

Well he did not die. Came back with brain function which he should not have because of the bacteria virus that grabbed his brain. But he did. Full function and wrote a book about his experience and what happen to him during the point in time that he died. Then he tried to disprove of what he experienced.

The gist of it. Heaven and hell. The light is where true peace lies and there's a big whole universe that we trancend too. You have to go for the light. Sorry to burst your bubble. If we come back its by choice. It always is.

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Interesting, there was just a rerun of this guy on Oprah OWN Soul Sunday show! I just watched it an hour ago. Very interesting, but not far from what I always believed anyway. Loved the point he made that our BRAIN is secondary to our SOUL....and the all being LOVE of everything! hf
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Did you guys ever read the book that was written by a brain surgeon that did not believe in SHIT. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Soul Nothing. believed that people who had near death experiences were full of shit or delusional. I mean this guy was empty. Void of anything. When your dead your dead.

Then he died. Brain dead. His doctors said no way. Brain mush. Pull the plug.

Well he did not die. Came back with brain function which he should not have because of the bacteria virus that grabbed his brain. But he did. Full function and wrote a book about his experience and what happen to him during the point in time that he died. Then he tried to disprove of what he experienced.

The gist of it. Heaven and hell. The light is where true peace lies and there's a big whole universe that we trancend too. You have to go for the light. Sorry to burst your bubble. If we come back its by choice. It always is.

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Interesting, there was just a rerun of this guy on Oprah OWN Soul Sunday show! I just watched it an hour ago. Very interesting, but not far from what I always believed anyway. Loved the point he made that our BRAIN is secondary to our SOUL....and the all being LOVE of everything! hf
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you watch Oprah?
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Who did you all think the angel of "light" was? Ya, your living in hell now, a sort of Purgatory. You do it over and over again. We're all just waiting for the second and final death.
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Who did you all think the angel of "light" was? Ya, your living in hell now, a sort of Purgatory. You do it over and over again. We're all just waiting for the second and final death.
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hmmmn,interesting,when i was total psychotic that's exactly what i was being told.to this day voice still tells me i'm dead,hell,they even let me take a photo of my dead face.drs went nuts when i showed them,ooops.
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What if the light is just the light of the operating theater shining through an open vagina?

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ohno
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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Fuck You. You don't have a clue what to do or not to do and your going to tell people not too.

My mother years ago had a death experience. She died for 5 minutes on an operating table in the 60's.

She said she felt amazing peace. Felt safe and warm and cared for and loved. She was in a beautiful Valley with flowers and tree's and it was sunny and beautiful.

There was a little walk over bridge across a creek and somebody standing there waiting to take her across the bridge. This person was iluminated with white light. Their hand outreached for her. She said she really wanted to go.

But she decided to stay and told the person it was not her time. She stayed for me. She told them I was too young to be without her and that she was going too stay for a while longer.

See recovered from Death.

So don't lay that crap about the light being a bad thing when you know shit about shit. Just because you've heard some crazy fucking crap about it being a soul trap which nobody knows until the time when you do die for sure you should shut the fuck up about it.

Not going into the light could turn you into a lost soul and be stuff in the middle of nowhere forever. How the fuck would you know anything.
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So your whole point was that your mom had a near death experience and she came back.. SOUL TRAP. You backed up OP's point.
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Yeah!
Maybe your Mom coming back gave someone else a stillborn baby?
Or that the hands reaching out were the Obstetrician's?
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Research soul catcher techonology, truth has been leaking constantly for some years now...Pandoras box is open.
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what about it...been around for awhile. Ever since Edgar Mitchell founded Noetic sciences....the lab of Evil.
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1 JOHN 1
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him,
and declare unto you, THAT GOD IS LIGHT,
AND IN HIM IS NO DARKNESS AT ALL.



BUT


2 CORINTHIANS 11
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; FOR SATAN HIMSELF IS TRANSFORMED
INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.


15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers
also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.



So you have to KNOW God.

Jesus said, His sheep hear His voice,
and another they will NOT follow.

KNOW the Voice of God, who is the Word of God,
who is Jesus Christ.
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Go around instead.




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What other option would there be then?
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Fuck You. You don't have a clue what to do or not to do and your going to tell people not too.

My mother years ago had a death experience. She died for 5 minutes on an operating table in the 60's.

She said she felt amazing peace. Felt safe and warm and cared for and loved. She was in a beautiful Valley with flowers and tree's and it was sunny and beautiful.

There was a little walk over bridge across a creek and somebody standing there waiting to take her across the bridge. This person was iluminated with white light. Their hand outreached for her. She said she really wanted to go.

But she decided to stay and told the person it was not her time. She stayed for me. She told them I was too young to be without her and that she was going too stay for a while longer.

See recovered from Death.

So don't lay that crap about the light being a bad thing when you know shit about shit. Just because you've heard some crazy fucking crap about it being a soul trap which nobody knows until the time when you do die for sure you should shut the fuck up about it.

Not going into the light could turn you into a lost soul and be stuff in the middle of nowhere forever. How the fuck would you know anything.
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So your whole point was that your mom had a near death experience and she came back.. SOUL TRAP. You backed up OP's point.
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Yep.
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None of what you say matters. We won't know what happens after we die until we get there. So relax about it.
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The elation and "light" quickly turns to complete darkness; I know, I have been there...you have no sensations, whatsoever, just thought...it's utter hell...waiting and waiting......
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There was this Light shining. I turned toward the Light. The Light was very similar to what many other people have described in their near-death experiences. It was so magnificent. It is tangible; you can feel it. It is alluring; you want to go to it like you would want to go to your ideal mother's or father's arms. As I began to move toward the Light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the Light, I would be dead. So as I was moving toward the Light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think
about this; I would like to talk to you before I go.
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Go around instead.
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indeed - Don't go into the light when you die.

Only in the movies that open-gate is a "just one time opportunity"...

In reality, because HE already loves you and HE has all the time in the world, HE won't mind if you will try something different first, like scouting the universe a few zillion years and when you finally think you're done, you could ask him to open "that" door again... (and he will).


Why wouldn't he?
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Maybe God is a dick

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