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The actual military directive. Don't know if you can access it outside the UK.

[link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]

An actual facsimile of actual letter.
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Downloads fine here.

Makes you wonder wtf though.
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Amazing. You BS about how respected the times is knowing full well that it is owned and controlled by the most corrupt mop in the world who would fill the paper with lies after lies in order to cheat people in to invading Iraq. And you have the cheek to call it respectfull. You are such a brain washed laugh.

And on one more note while we are at it, assuming the paper is telling us the actual truth (which would be very very rare). About the fact that militery does not have enough funds and they are indeed on a quest to cut down millions from their bills.
Don't you think in the light of current economical situation it is more likely that army is actually trying to cut costs?
Do you have to be so childish as to read end of the world in every single piece of so called news?
Are you perhaps tired of your life and hate yourself so much with nowhere to escape that you wish the world to end and hence grap on to any shit to prove your dissability to handel life.
Growup
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I've long held the suspicion that all the ancient evidence hints strongly at something, or someone returning. I don't think natural disasters could be predicted, but some ship/fleet on a regular journey could be timetabled. I still think Daniken was on to something - maybe many details were off - but the core idea.

All the ancient religious texts that speak of 'giants' - including the Bible - all the weird old mega architecture pointing at very specific stars, all the old 'giant skeletons' found across the north eastern United States, the Mayan calendar (yes, I'm aware that it doesn't imply the Earth is ending - but it does clearly point to something important happening). Then there are all the crop circle 'warnings' (not all of which can be said to be fakes), and the contactees and abductees (again, can they all be mad?), not to mention the very tangible preparations that have been taking place like the Moscow civil defence project that had to be finished by late 2012.

In a nutshell humans have been obsessed with 'gods' from the stars for all of our known history. All the religions say the 'gods' will return. Man has spent untold energies and riches on building tributes and trying to appease the 'gods', and we have so many bits of history and biology that don't make sense unless you add some other advanced civilisation tinkering with it all.

I'm still on the fence about the whole 2012 thing - but I think it is perfectly plausible that aliens with a vested interest in us are going to make a return. Depending on how they view our development may well decide what course of action they take.
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Amazing. You BS about how respected the times is knowing full well that it is owned and controlled by the most corrupt mop in the world who would fill the paper with lies after lies in order to cheat people in to invading Iraq. And you have the cheek to call it respectfull. You are such a brain washed laugh.

And on one more note while we are at it, assuming the paper is telling us the actual truth (which would be very very rare). About the fact that militery does not have enough funds and they are indeed on a quest to cut down millions from their bills.
Don't you think in the light of current economical situation it is more likely that army is actually trying to cut costs?
Do you have to be so childish as to read end of the world in every single piece of so called news?
Are you perhaps tired of your life and hate yourself so much with nowhere to escape that you wish the world to end and hence grap on to any shit to prove your dissability to handel life.
Growup
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I think it is you who needs to grow up. You clearly have a very poor grasp of the English language, and a very poor comprehension of reality.
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Amazing. You BS about how respected the times is knowing full well that it is owned and controlled by the most corrupt mop in the world who would fill the paper with lies after lies in order to cheat people in to invading Iraq. And you have the cheek to call it respectfull. You are such a brain washed laugh.

And on one more note while we are at it, assuming the paper is telling us the actual truth (which would be very very rare). About the fact that militery does not have enough funds and they are indeed on a quest to cut down millions from their bills.
Don't you think in the light of current economical situation it is more likely that army is actually trying to cut costs?
Do you have to be so childish as to read end of the world in every single piece of so called news?
Are you perhaps tired of your life and hate yourself so much with nowhere to escape that you wish the world to end and hence grap on to any shit to prove your dissability to handel life.
Growup
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Sorry, but why are you on a conspiracy web site?
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Has anyone else noticed how as we get closer to the much anticipated date some people seem to be reacting with denial? There seem to be a lot of people now who are really trying to talk down the possibility of anything happening - completely ignoring the masses of evidence.

I'm not saying that the world will 'end'. I don't believe anything points to that. But can anyone who has seriously studied history not have at least a nagging suspicion that something is important about the end of 2012?
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Amazing. You BS about how respected the times is knowing full well that it is owned and controlled by the most corrupt mop in the world who would fill the paper with lies after lies in order to cheat people in to invading Iraq. And you have the cheek to call it respectfull. You are such a brain washed laugh.

And on one more note while we are at it, assuming the paper is telling us the actual truth (which would be very very rare). About the fact that militery does not have enough funds and they are indeed on a quest to cut down millions from their bills.
Don't you think in the light of current economical situation it is more likely that army is actually trying to cut costs?
Do you have to be so childish as to read end of the world in every single piece of so called news?
Are you perhaps tired of your life and hate yourself so much with nowhere to escape that you wish the world to end and hence grap on to any shit to prove your dissability to handel life.
Growup
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Sorry, but why are you on a conspiracy web site?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20393570


Ahh, you got me OP
This i can very well understand and since you put it all in prospective in just one sentence, i agree with you totally.
peace
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Also something to think about:

Surely the Ministry of Defence has contracts with energy and service providers - set contracts with set prices. I doubt very much they are paying domestic retail rates for electricity! And as for 'cleaning etc' - I run a cleaning contractor business and we charge pre-agreed amounts - as does everyone in the industry; so a client couldn't save money by 'not having us in for a few weeks'.

I could be wrong, but I really can't see how, when everything is contracted, they would save money on these things. Even if they did, then the amounts saved would be very small in terms of the defence budgets. Places would still have to be lit and heated for security and building maintenance purposes anyway.

Its a BS excuse. Whatever the reality its a load of crap about saving money - it simply won't save enough to matter.
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what's BS? The story or the link to doom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20393570


Grow up. Times is the sister paper of Sun tabloid and its owned by you know who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5449673


Yes, but the Times is also one of the oldest and most respected papers in the entire world. This story is quite odd. If 'something' is returning, from up above, you surely don't want all of your troops sitting together as nice targets on bases. As someone else pointed out, it would be impossible to pre-position troops, vehicles, weapons systems and aircraft to a war footing without arousing public panic because of the timing - so getting your most valuable resources (the manpower) to self-disperse all across the nation seems to make a lot of sense.
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Couple this with another thread that shows the Russian Army deploying large forces on the Norway border. Something big's about to happen that we're not being told about.
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that's great, it starts with an earthquake...
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So why close it down.... money savings....

or is it for other reasons???
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If those soldiers are being asked to work from home does this mean that they are taking there battle gear home with them over the holiday..?
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If those soldiers are being asked to work from home does this mean that they are taking there battle gear home with them over the holiday..?
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No, No such a thing is possible or will be allowed. That simply is out of the question and that is why there is nothing to read in to this.

Point is Britain is in a lot of financial trouble. They are no longer able to rob smaller nations to feed their own. Couple with fact that Israel and Zio... are fast losing their position in the world and no longer able to gang up with Britain.
Fact is Britain has to start thinking about feeding itself out of its own money for a change and they have just come to the horrible realiseation that they have no industry left to lean on.
There is no choice left but to start cutting back on everything they can. My bet is in 2013 britain will totally pullout of Afghanistan.
Britain is alomst bankrupt
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British army is no different than any other ntity in UK

Read this
A poll by Onepoll for Ovo Energy shows more than one third of homes are rationing power with 70 percent having already limited their consumption to save, The Guardian reported.

The findings show almost ten percent of British families no longer afford paying for energy bills while another 14.5 percent believe bills will become too expensive for them to pay as early as this winter.
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Has anyone else noticed how as we get closer to the much anticipated date some people seem to be reacting with denial? There seem to be a lot of people now who are really trying to talk down the possibility of anything happening - completely ignoring the masses of evidence.

I'm not saying that the world will 'end'. I don't believe anything points to that. But can anyone who has seriously studied history not have at least a nagging suspicion that something is important about the end of 2012?
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It has a name. It's called the normalcy bias.
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British army is no different than any other ntity in UK

Read this
A poll by Onepoll for Ovo Energy shows more than one third of homes are rationing power with 70 percent having already limited their consumption to save, The Guardian reported.

The findings show almost ten percent of British families no longer afford paying for energy bills while another 14.5 percent believe bills will become too expensive for them to pay as early as this winter.
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Yes. But the Army has a substantially bigger budget than the average British family and like I said before, they won't be paying domestic rates. As for the other stuff, like cleaning etc it will be on contract - so they will have to pay whether they send the soldiers home or not. They will still have to light the bases for security and still have to put the heating on if they want to avoid lots of burst pipes.
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Amazing. You BS about how respected the times is knowing full well that it is owned and controlled by the most corrupt mop in the world who would fill the paper with lies after lies in order to cheat people in to invading Iraq. And you have the cheek to call it respectfull. You are such a brain washed laugh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5449673


So what? When it comes to this report, that newspaper probably is correct. They're not the ones theorizing that the plan for all enlistees to be home in December is for reasons other than to save money.

BTW, if you're a libtard, you're the last to be accusing others of being brainwashed.
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Not sure about this link as it is a paid-for site (The Sunday Times) - [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]

But the intro (sticking to forum fair-use percentage rules) says

"THE British Army has been ordered to take an extended 25-day Christmas holiday or “work from home” in an attempt to cut its gas and electricity bills.

In a move that former military commanders say is unprecedented, a leaked memo from a general says all military and civilian personnel in land forces — amounting to 110,000 men and women — are to take “block leave” for 25 days from December 14 until January 7.

The decision means all army barracks, Territorial Army buildings and other military sites in Britain will close for almost four weeks to provide “an opportunity for utility savings”."


This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

So basically all British troops (at least in the UK) will be stationed at their homes around the country for December 2012.

Is this really a cost cutting measure? Or a way to get well-trained troops positioned around the UK without causing panic in preparation for something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20393570


It's a great idea, a way to save money. Maybe it will start a trend, where the standing army can be at home, ready to be called to action, but not needing to be stationed at the military installation all the time. Computers & internet make it very feasible to work from home.
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Forced leave.
What about the guys who have no where to go?
Now they have to stay in a hotel for almost a month?
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what's BS? The story or the link to doom?
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Grow up. Times is the sister paper of Sun tabloid and its owned by you know who.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5449673


Yes, but the Times is also one of the oldest and most respected papers in the entire world. This story is quite odd. If 'something' is returning, from up above, you surely don't want all of your troops sitting together as nice targets on bases. As someone else pointed out, it would be impossible to pre-position troops, vehicles, weapons systems and aircraft to a war footing without arousing public panic because of the timing - so getting your most valuable resources (the manpower) to self-disperse all across the nation seems to make a lot of sense.
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Couple this with another thread that shows the Russian Army deploying large forces on the Norway border. Something big's about to happen that we're not being told about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28904542


Russia has been planning that troop deployment for years and made it public long ago. Priorities change. It has nothing to do with "something big happening".

This, too, is most likely just what it seems: the Brits want to save money.
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So why close it down.... money savings....

or is it for other reasons???
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Yes, spreading out the troops for some sort of impending attack on the installations. It follows the exact same doctrine that the soviet army uses for it's mobile strategic rocket forces. Rather then place critical assets in hardened, fixed locations, you keep them VERY mobile and during time of war, you flush or scramble them into different locations in the countryside to avoid being taken out all at once. Once the bombs have fallen, you can re muster them centrally again if needed. Question is, did they take their basic gear, weapons, comms etc home with them? If so, there is your answer I think.
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So why close it down.... money savings....

or is it for other reasons???
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Yes, spreading out the troops for some sort of impending attack on the installations. It follows the exact same doctrine that the soviet army uses for it's mobile strategic rocket forces. Rather then place critical assets in hardened, fixed locations, you keep them VERY mobile and during time of war, you flush or scramble them into different locations in the countryside to avoid being taken out all at once. Once the bombs have fallen, you can re muster them centrally again if needed. Question is, did they take their basic gear, weapons, comms etc home with them? If so, there is your answer I think.
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Anybody who has ever been to basic will recognize the order "spread out" during contact with, or expected contact with the enemy.
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Has anyone else noticed how as we get closer to the much anticipated date some people seem to be reacting with denial? There seem to be a lot of people now who are really trying to talk down the possibility of anything happening - completely ignoring the masses of evidence.

I'm not saying that the world will 'end'. I don't believe anything points to that. But can anyone who has seriously studied history not have at least a nagging suspicion that something is important about the end of 2012?
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Call it denial if you want but makes no sense to me to believe that our current calendar can in any way be believed to coordinate exactly with the Mayan calendar. The Mayans were astronomy experts and had a long history of making observations and keeping a calendar, probably learned from their ancient ancestors who kept accurate records for thousands of years.
Our current civilization's calendar on the other hand has been through many changes and religious tinkering and is probably very inaccurate astronomically.
The Mayans were likely predicting or calculating an astronomical cycle or event. Our calendar is probably years off from correlating with that same cycle or event. Just because we call this date 12/21/12 does not mean the Mayans would call it the same date if they were still around.

History of the Gregorian calendar
[link to galileo.rice.edu]
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Five stars from down under.
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Ditto.

This is very sus!
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well blow my crocodiles
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[link to www.ushistory.org]

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If those soldiers are being asked to work from home does this mean that they are taking there battle gear home with them over the holiday..?
 Quoting: The Beast 1654766


No, No such a thing is possible or will be allowed. That simply is out of the question and that is why there is nothing to read in to this.

Point is Britain is in a lot of financial trouble. They are no longer able to rob smaller nations to feed their own. Couple with fact that Israel and Zio... are fast losing their position in the world and no longer able to gang up with Britain.
Fact is Britain has to start thinking about feeding itself out of its own money for a change and they have just come to the horrible realiseation that they have no industry left to lean on.
There is no choice left but to start cutting back on everything they can. My bet is in 2013 britain will totally pullout of Afghanistan.
Britain is alomst bankrupt
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lol
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If those soldiers are being asked to work from home does this mean that they are taking there battle gear home with them over the holiday..?
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No, No such a thing is possible or will be allowed. That simply is out of the question and that is why there is nothing to read in to this.

Point is Britain is in a lot of financial trouble. They are no longer able to rob smaller nations to feed their own. Couple with fact that Israel and Zio... are fast losing their position in the world and no longer able to gang up with Britain.
Fact is Britain has to start thinking about feeding itself out of its own money for a change and they have just come to the horrible realiseation that they have no industry left to lean on.
There is no choice left but to start cutting back on everything they can. My bet is in 2013 britain will totally pullout of Afghanistan.
Britain is alomst bankrupt
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ha, they have enough money to bomb libya, enough for afganistan war, they have money to support terrorism in siria.
But they have no money to pay electricity bills for military bases in england.
Whose stupid here sockpuppet
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If those soldiers are being asked to work from home does this mean that they are taking there battle gear home with them over the holiday..?
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No, No such a thing is possible or will be allowed. That simply is out of the question and that is why there is nothing to read in to this.

Point is Britain is in a lot of financial trouble. They are no longer able to rob smaller nations to feed their own. Couple with fact that Israel and Zio... are fast losing their position in the world and no longer able to gang up with Britain.
Fact is Britain has to start thinking about feeding itself out of its own money for a change and they have just come to the horrible realiseation that they have no industry left to lean on.
There is no choice left but to start cutting back on everything they can. My bet is in 2013 britain will totally pullout of Afghanistan.
Britain is alomst bankrupt
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ha, they have enough money to bomb libya, enough for afganistan war, they have money to support terrorism in siria.
But they have no money to pay electricity bills for military bases in england.
Whose stupid here sockpuppet
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Exactly. Sending troops home for a few weeks IS NOT GOING TO SAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EVEN REGISTER!!!! They will still have to light and heat the bases for security and maintenance (its winter here - if they just turn the heating off you will get frozen pipes bursting etc). As for other services like cleaning, maintenance and infrastructure they are contracted out, so its not going to save them any money!!! For christ's sake people, the army doesn't pay for services by the hour from 'Bob's Plumbing and Heating Services' from down the freakin' road. And it is not going to be on metered electricity either. Even my nan has a fixed tariff for gas and electricity - so I'd say the bloody army do.

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