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Not sure about this link as it is a paid-for site (The Sunday Times) - [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]

But the intro (sticking to forum fair-use percentage rules) says

"THE British Army has been ordered to take an extended 25-day Christmas holiday or “work from home” in an attempt to cut its gas and electricity bills.

In a move that former military commanders say is unprecedented, a leaked memo from a general says all military and civilian personnel in land forces — amounting to 110,000 men and women — are to take “block leave” for 25 days from December 14 until January 7.

The decision means all army barracks, Territorial Army buildings and other military sites in Britain will close for almost four weeks to provide “an opportunity for utility savings”."


This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

So basically all British troops (at least in the UK) will be stationed at their homes around the country for December 2012.

Is this really a cost cutting measure? Or a way to get well-trained troops positioned around the UK without causing panic in preparation for something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20393570


As an ex British soldier to deliberately position troops and keep it hush is not possible, but the benefits to reduce all bases to skeleton staff have massive cost savings, fuel, food, cleaning the list goes on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22298436


But then again, when you realise that money is not only printed by these same controllers and that when it comes to world domination, they don't hold back on the amount spent on weapons and equipment but yet complain about the triviality of gas and fuel etc, I say your excuse for this action, if true, doesn't hold water.

At the heights of the so called austerity in 2010/2011, there was no shortage of bombs being dropped on Libya and it hasnt stopped them from producing more in the aftermath to replace old/used stock.
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what's BS? The story or the link to doom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20393570


Grow up. Times is the sister paper of Sun tabloid and its owned by you know who.
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Yes, but the Times is also one of the oldest and most respected papers in the entire world. This story is quite odd. If 'something' is returning, from up above, you surely don't want all of your troops sitting together as nice targets on bases. As someone else pointed out, it would be impossible to pre-position troops, vehicles, weapons systems and aircraft to a war footing without arousing public panic because of the timing - so getting your most valuable resources (the manpower) to self-disperse all across the nation seems to make a lot of sense.
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If Operation Blackjack is to play out soon, where in one of its slides, "all persons were asked to stay home and await further instructions", then this move could be another jigsaw puzzle that fits in the bigger picture.
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My boys are just going to enjoy a 5 week party.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Move along folks, there's nothing to see here.
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the link to the facsimilie document worked fine.

It appears legitimate.
And it makes no sense whatever to me. Unless further orders are to come once the mandatory break begins.


I believe the entire Mayan hysteria is nothing but a new-age, de- religionized parody of the old "the end of the world is nigh" type of Christian preaching.

I trust the bible FAR MORE than a bunch of mezo americans who practiced human sacrifice.
That we fall for this, well, that part is on us.
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This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

Link??
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My boys are just going to enjoy a 5 week party.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Move along folks, there's nothing to see here.
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Tell your boy's to party hard.. It might be their last.
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I've long held the suspicion that all the ancient evidence hints strongly at something, or someone returning. I don't think natural disasters could be predicted, but some ship/fleet on a regular journey could be timetabled. I still think Daniken was on to something - maybe many details were off - but the core idea.

All the ancient religious texts that speak of 'giants' - including the Bible - all the weird old mega architecture pointing at very specific stars, all the old 'giant skeletons' found across the north eastern United States, the Mayan calendar (yes, I'm aware that it doesn't imply the Earth is ending - but it does clearly point to something important happening). Then there are all the crop circle 'warnings' (not all of which can be said to be fakes), and the contactees and abductees (again, can they all be mad?), not to mention the very tangible preparations that have been taking place like the Moscow civil defence project that had to be finished by late 2012.

In a nutshell humans have been obsessed with 'gods' from the stars for all of our known history. All the religions say the 'gods' will return. Man has spent untold energies and riches on building tributes and trying to appease the 'gods', and we have so many bits of history and biology that don't make sense unless you add some other advanced civilisation tinkering with it all.

I'm still on the fence about the whole 2012 thing - but I think it is perfectly plausible that aliens with a vested interest in us are going to make a return. Depending on how they view our development may well decide what course of action they take.
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I love your viewpoint. I think the reason why all mil personnel might be dispersed is because of this event (widely regarded as the return of the gods which is covered in this Thread: Foretold Floodings, Ice-Age, Magnetic Reversal and more....E.T. Contactees Messages (Video Collection & Analysis).

I think this event, of which no one is certain of what this could potentially mean or result into, warrants all persons to be with their families. Until this event or the outcome transpires, the controllers cant continue with Business as usual.

This thought process is exactly why the FED charter will be 99 years this 21 Dec, 2012. Why the fiscal cliff is moved till the beginning of next year. This is why the perception of a financial crisis has been created even though the system wasnt threatened and could still serve the controllers for another millenia. Unless of course they know the system wont stand in the face of what's coming and they just want to defraud the masses all over again.

This is exactly what Operation Blackjack depicts and mentions in its many slides - Aquarius and Operation Nephilim. Aquarius implies that we move into the age of Aquarius sometime soon.....a point which I also covered in the thread of which the government had a ceremony for. That ceremony was the supposed MLK memorial, a statue which is no more than a subliminal sphinx. A sphinx is a memorial for the entry into the Age of Aquarius. Things are either being moved forward, stalled or held to the last minute until this event takes place and the controllers chart the next course of human history. They dont know what will happen.

Remember Rumsfeld's Known Knowns, Known Unknowns and Unknown Unknowns. Well, this says it all.

Something is coming, and coming soon. I stated in my ET thread that many contactees have said the ETs will be returning. Not only that, Chris Thomas, argues that there will be a consciousness shift and our full soul energies with full psychic abilities will be integrated into the human bodies before the 21st of December 2012.

All these events could explain why the military had to take a break. An unprecedented break never in its long history and it just so happens to be in December 2012, of all years?

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This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

Link??
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In the original post but it's behind a paywall.
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mayan doom preparedness
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Also something to think about:

Surely the Ministry of Defence has contracts with energy and service providers - set contracts with set prices. I doubt very much they are paying domestic retail rates for electricity! And as for 'cleaning etc' - I run a cleaning contractor business and we charge pre-agreed amounts - as does everyone in the industry; so a client couldn't save money by 'not having us in for a few weeks'.

I could be wrong, but I really can't see how, when everything is contracted, they would save money on these things. Even if they did, then the amounts saved would be very small in terms of the defence budgets. Places would still have to be lit and heated for security and building maintenance purposes anyway.

Its a BS excuse. Whatever the reality its a load of crap about saving money - it simply won't save enough to matter.
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100% agreed. There is definitely some other reason for this; the 'cost-saving' measure doesn't hold water.

Here's a snippet from the letter:

"Stand-Down. In recognition of the extraordinary demands that have been placed on military personnel during the last 12 months... the period 17 - 21 December is to be designated as a Stand-Down, an authorised absence from duty."

LOOK AT THOSE DATES!!!!! THIS IS A COVER FOR THE MILITARY PTB TO GO UNDERGROUND WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING THEIR ABSENCE. "THE CHOSEN" AMONG THE MILITARY RANK AND FILE WILL BE ACCOMPANYING THEM.
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bump good find OP!
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This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

Link??
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In the original post but it's behind a paywall.
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I take it the article is referring to British forces in those nations - as all of them are places where we have combat forces, recruiting operations or training operations. Americans in particular may not be aware Britain has military interests in these places.
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This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

Link??
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In the original post but it's behind a paywall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20393570


I take it the article is referring to British forces in those nations - as all of them are places where we have combat forces, recruiting operations or training operations. Americans in particular may not be aware Britain has military interests in these places.
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Yes, it applies to British forces in those areas. The USA isn't the only country to have bases abroad (as I'm sure you are aware).
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hands up who's getting more and more concerned the closer we get to this date

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the link to the facsimilie document worked fine.

It appears legitimate.
And it makes no sense whatever to me. Unless further orders are to come once the mandatory break begins.


I believe the entire Mayan hysteria is nothing but a new-age, de- religionized parody of the old "the end of the world is nigh" type of Christian preaching.

I trust the bible FAR MORE than a bunch of mezo americans who practiced human sacrifice.
That we fall for this, well, that part is on us.
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The Bible is rife with human sacrifice. It is part historical document, dramatic fiction, and the magic mushroom/hallucinogenic ramblings of a schizophrenic social outcast and his band of merry men.
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OK .. I got a question .

Stand down period "AD 14 DEC 12 to FP 7 Jan 13"

Assuming AD is what I think it is (ie: 100 BC/ 2012 AD) .. what is FP?

BTW .. I Nancy and the Zeta's called post-shift the "AfterTime" .. : /
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I'm gonna go ahead and say something is going on here. But i'm thinking the reasoning behind this move isn't because something will actually happen, as in the end of the world. What I think will happen is they are scared of a lot of people freaking out because they THINK it's the end of the world. So they are ordering soldiers to stay home in the event of some large scale rioting/looting.

Just my 2 cents worth.
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Not sure about this link as it is a paid-for site (The Sunday Times) - [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]

But the intro (sticking to forum fair-use percentage rules) says

"THE British Army has been ordered to take an extended 25-day Christmas holiday or “work from home” in an attempt to cut its gas and electricity bills.

In a move that former military commanders say is unprecedented, a leaked memo from a general says all military and civilian personnel in land forces — amounting to 110,000 men and women — are to take “block leave” for 25 days from December 14 until January 7.

The decision means all army barracks, Territorial Army buildings and other military sites in Britain will close for almost four weeks to provide “an opportunity for utility savings”."


This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

So basically all British troops (at least in the UK) will be stationed at their homes around the country for December 2012.

Is this really a cost cutting measure? Or a way to get well-trained troops positioned around the UK without causing panic in preparation for something?
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“work from home” in an attempt to cut its gas and electricity bills.

Damn. They really ARE fucked if they're that hard up...
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Not sure about this link as it is a paid-for site (The Sunday Times) - [link to www.thesundaytimes.co.uk]

But the intro (sticking to forum fair-use percentage rules) says

"THE British Army has been ordered to take an extended 25-day Christmas holiday or “work from home” in an attempt to cut its gas and electricity bills.

In a move that former military commanders say is unprecedented, a leaked memo from a general says all military and civilian personnel in land forces — amounting to 110,000 men and women — are to take “block leave” for 25 days from December 14 until January 7.

The decision means all army barracks, Territorial Army buildings and other military sites in Britain will close for almost four weeks to provide “an opportunity for utility savings”."


This apples not just to the UK but Germany, Nepal and Brunei, Canada, Belize and Kenya.

So basically all British troops (at least in the UK) will be stationed at their homes around the country for December 2012.

Is this really a cost cutting measure? Or a way to get well-trained troops positioned around the UK without causing panic in preparation for something?
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Thread: Either 8 hours or so OR December 14th.

oh shit
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Guerrilla Warfare, maybe they do know something is coming a force in which you cant take head on.

So they deploy there forces in with the general public, if and when invaded your trained troops can not only evade but train and recruit civy's. And strike an enemy who is over extending it's self now that it has to occupy.

This tactic would be much more effective than massive military strikes against a superior fighting force. You have or will have lost very few personal in the intial attack.

Or there just broke as hell.
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If those soldiers are being asked to work from home does this mean that they are taking there battle gear home with them over the holiday..?
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No, No such a thing is possible or will be allowed. That simply is out of the question and that is why there is nothing to read in to this.

Point is Britain is in a lot of financial trouble. They are no longer able to rob smaller nations to feed their own. Couple with fact that Israel and Zio... are fast losing their position in the world and no longer able to gang up with Britain.
Fact is Britain has to start thinking about feeding itself out of its own money for a change and they have just come to the horrible realiseation that they have no industry left to lean on.
There is no choice left but to start cutting back on everything they can. My bet is in 2013 britain will totally pullout of Afghanistan.
Britain is alomst bankrupt
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ha, they have enough money to bomb libya, enough for afganistan war, they have money to support terrorism in siria.
But they have no money to pay electricity bills for military bases in england.
Whose stupid here sockpuppet
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Exactly. Sending troops home for a few weeks IS NOT GOING TO SAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EVEN REGISTER!!!! They will still have to light and heat the bases for security and maintenance (its winter here - if they just turn the heating off you will get frozen pipes bursting etc). As for other services like cleaning, maintenance and infrastructure they are contracted out, so its not going to save them any money!!! For christ's sake people, the army doesn't pay for services by the hour from 'Bob's Plumbing and Heating Services' from down the freakin' road. And it is not going to be on metered electricity either. Even my nan has a fixed tariff for gas and electricity - so I'd say the bloody army do.
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I'd have to say I agree with that assessment. This kind of "cost cutting " measure would barely even register. If this is legit, it is quite suspect.

Also, aren't British army units ran pretty much like U.S. army units when it comes to your issued gear? When you get assigned to a U.S. army post you get issued most of the gear you will need according to your MOS. You sign for all of this gear and are responsible for all of it. If anything gets damaged/lost and not reported, you have to pay for out of pocket. This gear is yours while you are assigned to the unit, it goes where you go, including your home while on leave.

The only gear that is not permanently issued to the individual soldiers are rifles/machine guns, amunition/explosives, night vision goggles/scopes. And all of that can be issued out to a unit REALLY FAST. They could have an entire brigade battle ready in under an hour.

So, are British army units not ran the same as U.S. army units when it comes to gear? I would think they would be ran the same.

One more thing. AC #5449673 is a shill. Just thought I would throw that out there.
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This is what next President of EU does. Allows people do die starvig
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OK .. I got a question .

Stand down period "AD 14 DEC 12 to FP 7 Jan 13"

Assuming AD is what I think it is (ie: 100 BC/ 2012 AD) .. what is FP?

BTW .. I Nancy and the Zeta's called post-shift the "AfterTime" .. : /
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AD = After Duties
FP = First Parade
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hmmm
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British officers are notorious fudge packers. They just want to spend some quality time with their boyfriends during the holiday season.
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OK .. I got a question .

Stand down period "AD 14 DEC 12 to FP 7 Jan 13"

Assuming AD is what I think it is (ie: 100 BC/ 2012 AD) .. what is FP?

BTW .. I Nancy and the Zeta's called post-shift the "AfterTime" .. : /
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AD = After Duties
FP = First Parade
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Thanks
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So to speak, quite differently, 2012 might barely be the end of our earth already....See the universe, is so dilated and remote that over the speed of light, our 3d dimensions begin to detach in fragments. Because our 3d dimensions needs The time factor, aka 4th dimension to keep connected in what we know as the 'present' time. Beyond that speed of light limit, if 2012 was to already happening on Rigel, before we can experience their 2012 doom, about 3000 years must elapse.

yeahsure
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So it's pointless, the universe might never meet its havocs unless you can get to wreak it through time portals.
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In a move that former military commanders say is unprecedented, a leaked memo from a general says all military and civilian personnel in land forces — amounting to 110,000 men and women — are to take “block leave” for 25 days from December 14 until January 7.

The decision means all army barracks, Territorial Army buildings and other military sites in Britain will close for almost four weeks to provide “an opportunity for utility savings"
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ATTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!
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Also something to think about:

Surely the Ministry of Defence has contracts with energy and service providers - set contracts with set prices. I doubt very much they are paying domestic retail rates for electricity! And as for 'cleaning etc' - I run a cleaning contractor business and we charge pre-agreed amounts - as does everyone in the industry; so a client couldn't save money by 'not having us in for a few weeks'.

I could be wrong, but I really can't see how, when everything is contracted, they would save money on these things. Even if they did, then the amounts saved would be very small in terms of the defence budgets. Places would still have to be lit and heated for security and building maintenance purposes anyway.

Its a BS excuse. Whatever the reality its a load of crap about saving money - it simply won't save enough to matter.
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100% agreed. There is definitely some other reason for this; the 'cost-saving' measure doesn't hold water.

Here's a snippet from the letter:

"Stand-Down. In recognition of the extraordinary demands that have been placed on military personnel during the last 12 months... the period 17 - 21 December is to be designated as a Stand-Down, an authorised absence from duty."

LOOK AT THOSE DATES!!!!! THIS IS A COVER FOR THE MILITARY PTB TO GO UNDERGROUND WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING THEIR ABSENCE. "THE CHOSEN" AMONG THE MILITARY RANK AND FILE WILL BE ACCOMPANYING THEM.
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Yes, I definitely noticed that in the leave directive. I also noticed that those five days are an "authorised abesence from duty which may be granted by a CO in excess of the normal leave allowance, and as such these 5 days will not be deducted from an individuals annual leave allowance." The military is GIVING them FIVE FREE DAYS of leave, in my opinion to ensure that THOSE FIVE DAYS are CERTAIN to be used as intended.

If your boss says, I am giving you five *free* *additional* days of paid vacation but only on *these* days, I'm pretty sure compliance would be at 100%.

This is absolutely stunning information considering the run-up to 12/21/12. No coincidence here.



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