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What Linux to download?

 
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12/02/2012 07:35 AM
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What Linux to download?
I posted a few weeks back about a friend who got scammed into letting some bunch of cowboys gain remote access to his computer.


We're now trying to reformat his machine but nothing is working. Is it possible that they've panted a virus or whatever to stop us from reformatting?

What if we try Linux instead of the sieve, sorry, Windows?

Any help appreciated. If all else fails, Mr Remington is coming out. lol
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12/02/2012 07:39 AM
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Re: What Linux to download?
Give Ubuntu a try.
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12/02/2012 07:40 AM
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Ubuntu is worthless.

Sabayon is where you need to be.
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12/02/2012 07:42 AM
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Re: What Linux to download?
OpenSuse
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12/02/2012 07:44 AM
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[link to www.opensuse.org]
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12/02/2012 07:45 AM
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Re: What Linux to download?
Thanks folks. Giving them all a look now.tounge
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12/02/2012 07:47 AM
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Just because you dont know how to use a computer doesnt mean it has a virus.

Insert Windows CD/DVD
Restart and enter BIOS - enable CD/DVD as boot device.
Boot from Windows Disk (You may need to press something as the computer starts)
Select to delete the existing partitions and do a fresh install.
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12/02/2012 07:47 AM
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Re: What Linux to download?
Forget Ubuntu.

Try Fedora.
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12/02/2012 07:49 AM
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Wait a second. If you can't even reformat the hard drive, you're either doing something wrong or the computer itself is broken and needs to be repaired. Probably the hard drive.

What you need to do is get a cd-rom or disk with fdisk and some repartition software. Wipe out any hard drives and partitions. Reformat and repartition. Then reinstall windows. You can do this step WITHOUT the shitty CD windows tells you to do it with.

And yes, Linux also has some utilities to do this.
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Re: What Linux to download?
I posted a few weeks back about a friend who got scammed into letting some bunch of cowboys gain remote access to his computer.


We're now trying to reformat his machine but nothing is working. Is it possible that they've panted a virus or whatever to stop us from reformatting?

What if we try Linux instead of the sieve, sorry, Windows?

Any help appreciated. If all else fails, Mr Remington is coming out. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28905616

Just tried Linux Mint in an old laptop. UUUGLY.

Linux as a kernel is good, but GNU/Linux distros are the suckage for anything but computer nerds.
Google should get serious about OFFICIALLY releasing Android (which is based on Linux kernel, thus compatible with Linux drivers).
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12/02/2012 07:54 AM
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Linux Mint
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Just because you dont know how to use a computer doesnt mean it has a virus.

Insert Windows CD/DVD
Restart and enter BIOS - enable CD/DVD as boot device.
Boot from Windows Disk (You may need to press something as the computer starts)
Select to delete the existing partitions and do a fresh install.
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Fair comment, however I'm liaising with someone who does know and he tells me it's 99% certain it's got a virus.

Thanks for your input - we'll try that next!
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Re: What Linux to download?
Just because you dont know how to use a computer doesnt mean it has a virus.

Insert Windows CD/DVD
Restart and enter BIOS - enable CD/DVD as boot device.
Boot from Windows Disk (You may need to press something as the computer starts)
Select to delete the existing partitions and do a fresh install.
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Ah, just re-read this. First thing we tried I'm afraid. No joy.

We can get into bios no problem, won't then boot the disc and says both that thee is no hard drive fitted or that files are missing
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12/02/2012 07:59 AM
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Wait a second. If you can't even reformat the hard drive, you're either doing something wrong or the computer itself is broken and needs to be repaired. Probably the hard drive.

What you need to do is get a cd-rom or disk with fdisk and some repartition software. Wipe out any hard drives and partitions. Reformat and repartition. Then reinstall windows. You can do this step WITHOUT the shitty CD windows tells you to do it with.

And yes, Linux also has some utilities to do this.
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Got said software. System simply wont let us make any changes. Am def leaning towards the fault scenario.
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12/02/2012 08:04 AM
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Re: What Linux to download?
Just because you dont know how to use a computer doesnt mean it has a virus.

Insert Windows CD/DVD
Restart and enter BIOS - enable CD/DVD as boot device.
Boot from Windows Disk (You may need to press something as the computer starts)
Select to delete the existing partitions and do a fresh install.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12546839


Ah, just re-read this. First thing we tried I'm afraid. No joy.

We can get into bios no problem, won't then boot the disc and says both that thee is no hard drive fitted or that files are missing
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Sounds like a BIOS-rewriting trojan or a severe hd or controller (possibly mobo) malfunction/crash. Try subbing a drive, if you have one to spare.
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12/02/2012 08:04 AM
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I got tired of my wife getting viruses and trojans,
so I loaded Ubuntu on her computer.
She knows ZERO about anything but Bookface and
her other nutty sites.
She had absolutely no problems with it, and hasn't
skipped a beat in several years now.

If you are looking for a good linux version,
Ubuntu is the best one to jump out of windows to.
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12/02/2012 08:05 AM
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Wait a second. If you can't even reformat the hard drive, you're either doing something wrong or the computer itself is broken and needs to be repaired. Probably the hard drive.

What you need to do is get a cd-rom or disk with fdisk and some repartition software. Wipe out any hard drives and partitions. Reformat and repartition. Then reinstall windows. You can do this step WITHOUT the shitty CD windows tells you to do it with.

And yes, Linux also has some utilities to do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629



Got said software. System simply wont let us make any changes. Am def leaning towards the fault scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28905616


Well, hopefully you took precautions and have important files (pirated mp3's, porn etc.) on a backup HD. Sometimes it's much easier and way faster to just bite the bullet and do a fresh install instead of wasting days trying to root out the problem.
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12/02/2012 08:08 AM
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format the hard drive externally, then insert drive back into computer and follow the instructions given to you earlier in thread :)
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12/02/2012 08:09 AM
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If the computer doesn't "see" the hard drive,
you ain't goin nowhere.
Swap out hard drives to narrow down the problem.
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Re: What Linux to download?
Wait a second. If you can't even reformat the hard drive, you're either doing something wrong or the computer itself is broken and needs to be repaired. Probably the hard drive.

What you need to do is get a cd-rom or disk with fdisk and some repartition software. Wipe out any hard drives and partitions. Reformat and repartition. Then reinstall windows. You can do this step WITHOUT the shitty CD windows tells you to do it with.

And yes, Linux also has some utilities to do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629



Got said software. System simply wont let us make any changes. Am def leaning towards the fault scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28905616


Well, hopefully you took precautions and have important files (pirated mp3's, porn etc.) on a backup HD. Sometimes it's much easier and way faster to just bite the bullet and do a fresh install instead of wasting days trying to root out the problem.
 Quoting: Richterscale


HeHe, yeah, all the good stuff is backed up.

We are trying to do a fresh install but can't get in to do any changes. We can access bios, and change priority to the cd drive, but then it won't allow any alterations. Either saying that it can't find the hard drive, or that configuration files are now missing and or corrupted.
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Wait a second. If you can't even reformat the hard drive, you're either doing something wrong or the computer itself is broken and needs to be repaired. Probably the hard drive.

What you need to do is get a cd-rom or disk with fdisk and some repartition software. Wipe out any hard drives and partitions. Reformat and repartition. Then reinstall windows. You can do this step WITHOUT the shitty CD windows tells you to do it with.

And yes, Linux also has some utilities to do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629



Got said software. System simply wont let us make any changes. Am def leaning towards the fault scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28905616


Try resetting the bios, pull the battery for a few minutes from the motherboard. Make sure the hard drive is connected properly, try another cable or power supply. You are being kind of vague, saying the system won't let you make any changes. That doesn't sound like any error message I've ever heard of.

But computers are simply, a virus is a virus, it has to be somewhere to interrupt your computering. So if you delete all of that data like on the hard drive, the virus is gone. If it's something loaded in the master boot partition, you boot up to a boot disk with its own minimal OS that allows you to reformat/repartition. If something has fried the hard drive, you'll need a new hard drive. Like if the virus has literally corrupted your hard drive beyond repair, you buy a new hard drive and format/install your OS onto that.

But so far what you are describing is just gibberish, saying the system "won't let" you. Computers will let you do whatever you want to do to them, IF you know what you're doing.
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Wait a second. If you can't even reformat the hard drive, you're either doing something wrong or the computer itself is broken and needs to be repaired. Probably the hard drive.

What you need to do is get a cd-rom or disk with fdisk and some repartition software. Wipe out any hard drives and partitions. Reformat and repartition. Then reinstall windows. You can do this step WITHOUT the shitty CD windows tells you to do it with.

And yes, Linux also has some utilities to do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629



Got said software. System simply wont let us make any changes. Am def leaning towards the fault scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28905616


Try resetting the bios, pull the battery for a few minutes from the motherboard. Make sure the hard drive is connected properly, try another cable or power supply. You are being kind of vague, saying the system won't let you make any changes. That doesn't sound like any error message I've ever heard of.

But computers are simply, a virus is a virus, it has to be somewhere to interrupt your computering. So if you delete all of that data like on the hard drive, the virus is gone. If it's something loaded in the master boot partition, you boot up to a boot disk with its own minimal OS that allows you to reformat/repartition. If something has fried the hard drive, you'll need a new hard drive. Like if the virus has literally corrupted your hard drive beyond repair, you buy a new hard drive and format/install your OS onto that.

But so far what you are describing is just gibberish, saying the system "won't let" you. Computers will let you do whatever you want to do to them, IF you know what you're doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


Well forgive me for the gibberish. I readily admit to not being an expert, but I'm simply relating what's happening. I do hear what you're saying, but what I'm really looking for is a pointer as what to do next - hopefully from someone who 'knows what they're doing'. I'll address my personal shortcomings some other time.

hf
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12/02/2012 08:21 AM
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download the opensuse 12.2 iso and burn it to a dvd... then take dvd and boot off it for a clean install let it find your hard drives, format and install Opensuse on the hard drive.
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12/02/2012 08:22 AM
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You do this next.

You detail step by step what you are trying to do to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the OS. Then when you get to the "error" message you tell us exactly what it says, word for word.

Then we will be able to tell you exactly what to do.


But if you want an educated "guess" about what's going on, the hard drive is screwed and you can save yourself a lot of hassle by going and getting a new or used one, popping it in, and installing the OS on that hard drive. Used hard drives are CHEAP, you can probably get a 100 gig for 20 bucks at a local computer shop.


So detail what steps you are taking and error messages you receive, or replace the hard drive on a hunch that it's fubar.

And as I said, pop out the flat battery that holds the bios settings just in case something is screwy there. Put it back in a few minutes later, bios refreshed. Now go change back all your settings and try again.
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12/02/2012 08:23 AM
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Its sound like you have corrupt BOOT.ini,
there you go OP [link to www.techrepublic.com]

I vote for any distro with KDE it just work.
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12/02/2012 08:27 AM
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Its sound like you have corrupt BOOT.ini,
there you go OP [link to www.techrepublic.com]

I vote for any distro with KDE it just work.
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You don't need "boot.ini" to reformat a hard drive. Maybe if you are booting into a striped down Microsoft Dos to start the reformat.
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12/02/2012 08:29 AM
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OP also make sure you have tried this boot disk, I've used it for years.

[link to www.ultimatebootcd.com]
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Easy to use for non-techies = Linux Mint
For Power users = Arch Linux

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Its sound like you have corrupt BOOT.ini,
there you go OP [link to www.techrepublic.com]

I vote for any distro with KDE it just work.
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You don't need "boot.ini" to reformat a hard drive. Maybe if you are booting into a striped down Microsoft Dos to start the reformat.
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Aha ok where is located diskpart ?

[link to support.microsoft.com]

just sayng.
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12/02/2012 09:19 AM
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Fedora Linux is the only linux with a solid company behind it.

Red Hat.

They simply rock.

There's too much to prove my point.

Just take my word that you will not be disappointed.

[link to fedoraproject.org]

Enjoy a really good Linux Distro.
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12/02/2012 09:26 AM
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BTW

The creator of Linux, Linus Torvalds uses Fedora himself ;)
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