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Solutions to solve the Fiscal Cliff and decrease national debt! ((Also post your own suggestions here))

 
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As we all know here in the US there are a lot if changes that could happen December 31 due to the agreement president Obama made to raise the debt ceiling. This could be catastrophic and weaken our already fragile economy. Debt can be reduced if the best decisions are made to stimulate the economy and promote spending and money making by Anericans whole decreasing spending and dollar wasting by the government.

So here are a few suggestions that I have and I'd like to know what other suggestions you have. If you recommend something, please explain why you think it would work.

Please, please, please withhold disparaging remarks as I only want solutions to problems.

1 - they have continually threatened to raise taxes on the rich. I understand why they think that would work, but why punish those people that have worked hard to become successful and provided jobs and opportunities for others to make living. I do think the buffet rule is good to a certain degree but I don't think $250,000 is the number as that isn't a lot of money. Think of the NBA luxury tax. They are on the right page. I think that 1.5 million and up should be the ones that have an increase tax rate. Not $250,000. That affects small businesses that want to continually grow their business too much.

2 - just like the FDIC increases insurance to people that put their money in banks and protected banks and allowed them to gain more dollars to grow their investments while keeping minimums of financial assets to safe hairs those funds, we need similar bank incentives that will promote taking more risks on small business that will help them grow their business. Small business and owner's credit scores have been hit and banks don't understand that. So policies should change there and the government can do things to help with that.

3 - if an increase in taxes on the wealthy is going to happen, why not just place increased taxes on luxury things. i.e. high end cars, third plus homes, yachts, anything that the "rich and famous" would purchase so to speak. It won't stop them from purchasing them be ause no matter the price, they will still get them. It's not a matter of money at this point.


4 - tax the HELL on pornagraphy. Sorry folks but its evil and you know it. The porn industry is a multi billion dollar industry and is the scum of the earth. Whether the tax comes to users and/or owners and actors, so be it.

5 - guess what? No matter how many laws or border patrol agents or whatever is out there to control illegal immigrants, we will still have them here. Essentially everyone here is here because of an illegal immigrant as described in the law books. Think pilgrims and Indians. This country was saved by God to be the land of promise where all could come and enjoy the blessings that come by being a God fearing nation. Religion is not my point but if you know the Constitution and read about what our founding fathers went through, then you know what I'm talking about. What I am getting at though is we have jobs here that many will not do. Many are done but what many perceive as illegal immigrants. We yell and shout and despise them, yet we won't do those jobs. We cast stones at them, yet we don't understand what it does to our economy. So what shoułd happen ate helping them get citizenship through working permits first, while appreciating their hard labor. Then taxing them like everyone else to ensure those dollars stay In the US economy instead of it going to other countries via western union or whatever. Like I said, "this land is your land, this land is my land." We are all immigrants to a certain degree. We should hate on our neighbors but find solutions to keep dollars here. Bevause guess what? They are going to be here working regardless. Whether you or we like it or not.

6 - require people to have a savings account. Not necessarily force them, but incentivize them. Self explanatory here

7 - put tighter regulations on non profit organizations. Does it really make sense when a non profit organization has a greater than 25% overhead? Weird that my father in law's neighbor, who is the head of one, lives in a very expensive home and that is all she does. Husband is a fireman.

8 - what is up with the farming situation from the 20's. I hear that the government still pays subsidies to owners with farming land to motivate them NOT to farm. Really? Wasted dollars there.

9 - China. We have made them the most powerful nation in the world. Anyone else understand why this is bad? Especially when there BFFs are Russia, North Kore and probably Iran?

10 - people we need to be proud to work and pay our taxes. We cannot be a lazy nation. I understand we have government programs to help the needy and those that can't work, but so many are taking advantage of it. It may not be you so don't get offended, but our nation was one a powerful one. Not just financially, but with military and innovation. We all need to work and create jobs. Not take advantage of the system. We can't allow coat tail hangers to just ride the train of our financial collapse and longer. It is killing us. We need to motivate others to work and find purpose. We need to help others gain confidence in themselves. We do mot need druggies on welfare. Drug test all on welfare if needed but save those dollars for this'd that truly need it or are in a temporary financial bind and temporary unemployment.

I will have more thoughts I am sure. But what else is out there that could help the US. Those in other countries wanting to post, please do it in a solution oriented way. Thank you!!!
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Re: Solutions to solve the Fiscal Cliff and decrease national debt! ((Also post your own suggestions here))
I could solve it with just one act......



Eliminate capitol gains tax on all certifacates of deposits.......




Money would pour into banks. Banks would compete with higher returns. Small business could borrow and BOOOOM.
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12/02/2012 10:55 AM
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Reform medicare, medicaid and social security.

Bring back the troops home.

Cut extended unemployment.

Cut free money to the banksters.

Ban high frequency trading.

Raise interest rates.

Cut budget to deficit 0.

Cut all foreign aid.

Cut all student loans.

Should be a good start.
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12/02/2012 11:07 AM
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Wall Street & London's greed is the root cause of the current economic collapse. Well, this is not a unique situation. Did you know that there have been 47 depressions in the USA alone since 1790. And each one was caused by greedy Banksters seeking greater profits by cheating the citizens.

This is a cycle of *Designed Harvesting*, not accidental events.

Blankfein's lying. WALL ST crashed the economy, NOT Medicare, SS and other worker-earned benefits. Make Wall St pay for a change. Institute a small financial speculation tax, maybe 0.05% on each trade.

Abuse of tax havens by the 1% equals $1Billion of Grand Theft / yr from ALL the citizens of this country. End It Now.

End tax subsidies to Big Ag, Oil, Pharma, the FIRE Sector, the MIC & Corporate job/factory out-sourcers. Why should the government subsidise their ability to accumulate obscene profits at our expense?
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12/02/2012 11:07 AM
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Getting rid Capital gains sounds good. Why punish those that want to invest into businesses to grow it? That is a coattail tax.
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12/02/2012 11:10 AM
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Wall Street & London's greed is the root cause of the current economic collapse. Well, this is not a unique situation. Did you know that there have been 47 depressions in the USA alone since 1790. And each one was caused by greedy Banksters seeking greater profits by cheating the citizens.

This is a cycle of *Designed Harvesting*, not accidental events.

Blankfein's lying. WALL ST crashed the economy, NOT Medicare, SS and other worker-earned benefits. Make Wall St pay for a change. Institute a small financial speculation tax, maybe 0.05% on each trade.

Abuse of tax havens by the 1% equals $1Billion of Grand Theft / yr from ALL the citizens of this country. End It Now.

End tax subsidies to Big Ag, Oil, Pharma, the FIRE Sector, the MIC & Corporate job/factory out-sourcers. Why should the government subsidise their ability to accumulate obscene profits at our expense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342985


I've seen a few movies depicting this. It's true. Dirty bankers and politicians. Greed and power are the root causes. That's not what this nation was built on. Also anyone know the median income of politicians and bankers? Doesn't Pelosi have a built in golden parachute for life?
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12/02/2012 11:14 AM
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end the Fed?
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12/02/2012 11:14 AM
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Follow iceland... Debt forgiveness, its just a number that no one likes
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12/02/2012 11:24 AM
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end the Fed?
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Yes. Bring back treasury greenbacks and a national sales tax.vendetta
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12/02/2012 11:41 AM
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What do Iceland do? And why?
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12/02/2012 11:44 AM
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Offer student loan forgiveness in exchange for no entitlements in the future.
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12/02/2012 11:49 AM
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How much student loan debt forgiveness? I heard that is the next bubble? Last one was real estate and we know what happened there. In fact it's still not over as many haven't been reported by banks yet.
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12/02/2012 12:01 PM
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SOLUTION:

We dont owe the money.

the debt has been incurred by fraud. Arrest the bankers. Discharge the debt. Take the stolen $ from the bankers.
Carshy McCarsh

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12/02/2012 12:09 PM
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I have a solution:

Nationalize the fucking Fed.
That's right, just like Barry did with GM and student loans, just boom, take it over so that it belongs to the US government, instead of the banker cabal.

Fix that shit right up over night.
Tell me what this tastes like...
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Offer student loan forgiveness in exchange for no entitlements in the future.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


OK, that handles about $1 Trillion out of $288 Trillion.
What about the other $287 Trillion?
Tell me what this tastes like...
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12/02/2012 01:43 PM
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Become oil independent and then export the surplus. We have tons of oil and they know it. This combined with ending the Federal reserve would do it.
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12/02/2012 03:00 PM
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Ok so Obama is for change for what is not working in America, so then America has to change. But that means that the old system is not working. What type of new system are we talking about? A computerized socialism? The new technologies have changed us alot. Just because we can do something (technologically) doesn't mean we should do it! I say we should start there.
Secondly, we are all trying to manipulate the system in some regard. This too has to stop! As George Carlin once put it..."The upper class want to own it all so they don't have to pay any taxes, the middle class does all the work and pays all the taxes, and the lower class is there just to scare the hell out of the middle class". In any human system it must be understood that some people will be more prosperous than some others, but if anything is to become realized it takes sacrifice by all of us. I say Obama should organize the industrial might of America by first organizing the working force under a new plan for development of our entire infrastructure. In short we must all agree upon and organized plan and then we must do it! We have everything we need right here in America without having to be so dependent on other nations. NAFTA and NATO have gotten us into alot of trouble world wide and now they the want to abdicate our national sovereignty and give it over to the UN since we have become the greatest debtor nation in the world. If that is the case it is because we have acted unjustly in the past whether it be under the guise of religion or the recreation of the Roman oligarchy. If America is to survive it has to take its lumps just like any other nation but we have to look to the future with the hope of learning from our mistakes.
Nothing can be achieved in this country without true unity. If we are not one people then we will not achieve anything. Philosophically speaking you could argue that all people throughout the world are one people since we are all human and are circumscribed by the same basic limitations of being human. However the transhumanist movement is seducing the population with hopes of technology that will take us beyond our humanity. This has to stop before it rears it's ugly head any further. Mankind has to realize while there are many possibilities for the use of future technology we cannot renounce what has and does make us human beings. Namely the best part of us is that we have the capacity for great good and compassion for our fellow man as well as that for great evil -which is the way things have been going lately. We must realize that we will all stand one day before the great and aweful judge and be held accountable for all of our thoughts words and actions.
A more comfortable living should not always be the goal in life with more and more "stuff". Pretty soon if we do not become humble before our creator and make amends amoungst ourselves we may see right here on the North American continent the things which we have wreaked upon other nations of the world, -not to mention what mother nature has in store for us for upsetting the eco-system of the planet. Once all nations were held to uphold the laws of nature and maintain the biosphere as one of their top priorities. It has to be that way again! We have to be consequent for the choices we make in this life. When we create something which causes an envirnmental toxin or pollutant we must find the will and the means to clean it up. We must become more efficient with all our resources and look to the complete cycle comprehensively in the creation, use and destruction of all products made in America. That means recycling and the best minds need to be put to the task of ensuring that there is a balance in the equation so that the ecosystem does not suffer.
It has been said that numbers do not lie. Well I say they have been a constant lie to to the human race by those who have been manipulating the system of wealth in America. In Iceland they put all their bankers on trial and absolved all the home owner debt. Now their economy is thriving while our continues to flounder. Perhaps something can be learned from this even though it do not advocate a banker witch hunt or burning at the stake etc., we have to begin again with another currency since the old one has been a fiat currency backed by lies. Also the Golden Rule is not "He who has the gold makes the rules", It is "Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself"! If religion speaks the truth of this (and it does) then it can only remain "evil" in the eyes of those who wish to remain in denial of the facts. The entire world is being fashioned into a prison/hell and everyone is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while bargaining with children for a seat in a life boat. I say be a man! If you built it, then you go down with it! The least you can do is minimize the damage and loss of life which you have caused!
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End the Fed, nationalize the greenback, and we end usury:
[link to www.michaeljournal.org]

Institute a transaction tax ON EVERY TRANSACTION, including, and especially HFT, on the stock/commodity exchanges.
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End the Fed, nationalize the greenback, and we end usury:
[link to www.michaeljournal.org]

Institute a transaction tax ON EVERY TRANSACTION, including, and especially HFT, on the stock/commodity exchanges.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28899668


This is really the only TRUE solution. Everything else is just prolonging the problem AS DESIGNED by the Rothschilds.
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12/02/2012 08:14 PM
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Wow great suggestions.
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The whole world is in debt to those who print the money and sell it to us in exchange for everything of value that we possess. Those who print the money we use seem to be printing an endless supply of money to buy up all the world's assets. How retarded can the citizens of the world be to let this continue and allow twenty or so families own and control everything. Time to end the fed and return all their stollen assets back to the people.
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Come on people! What else needs to be done?
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12/05/2012 01:43 AM
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A psychic said today that we will go over the cliff and that nothing can be done about it or at least No one will do anything about it. Why is this?
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quit your job
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I am afraid the system must be reset.
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People don't realize the borrowing and printing is stealing from the people. Who is stuck with the note? Every time an American hears how big the debt is they should feel like someone is stealing their money. We hold the unlimited note that this administration is writing. Do you think the people doing the borrowing care? Where is all this borrowed money going? 6 trillion dollars is a lot of cabbage and where is it?
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Solutions to solve the Fiscal Cliff and decrease national debt! ((Also post your own suggestions here))
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Remove every last politician in Washington and replace them ALL.


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