I almost hate Christmas now...and today I refused to help put up the tree.

I'm 22 and am no longer participating in fake christmas. Christmas is about the birth of the son of god jesus christ, nothing else. Not bullshit fake santa and all the money you have to spend to go with it. The greedy marketers hijacked christmas and now use it to make money for there own selfish reasons. Wtf does a christmas tree have to do with anything? Just another thing you have to buy. Good for you OP.

it's all about money and shopping now, kinda hate it to

I hate this time of the year. I can't escape the delusional nonsense so much of the human race engages in. The constant Jesus crap, the fake holiday cheer, the craven commercialism is enough. The season makes me kinda hate humanity.

Fuckin' A...grinch alert, and I am pretty sure that with each passing year there will be more grinches.

The Christmas season in particular has been raped and bastardized by all of the fucking greedy corportations. I have to tell you, it just makes me feel fucking sick to my stomach.

I know I'm not alone, I talk to people and they tell me stories of how they have almost bankrupted themselves to make Christmas 'happen' for their children.

It's fucking cruel...kids who have well-to-do parents will 'have Christmas', whereas kids who have poor parents 'will not have a Christmas'.

I say again..."FUCK CHRISTMAS"!

I'm sure you're a miserable fuck pretty much all the time anyway..

Fuck you, you fucking brainwashed, indoctrinated fucking sheep.

Shouldn't you be watching all the Christmas commercials on your giant TV, or out spending what little money you have?

Fucking idiot.

Retailers have fucking ruined it for everyone. The Mexicans eat it up tho.

I think you got the "fake" part backward.

Winter Solstice: evergreen tree sign of eternal life (doesn't "die" and lose leaves in the winter). Sun "dies" in the northern hemisphere (reaches its lowest point in our horizon). Then, after 3 days, on Dec. 25 it begins its march back up in the sky to its apex (as far as our view of it), culminating in the summer solstice (june 21).

Now how does "Jesus" fit into all this? That's the REAL question.

Maybe you need to get down with the NJC. You still have a couple months to get into the spirit!

Christians didn't start Christmas...Pagan worshipers in Babylon did. When Rome converted to Christianity, they wanted to keep their pagan holidays. So they just changed the name from the winter solstice crap.

Quit yer bleatin'

Where's your Christmas spirit? Look on the bright side.

I LOVE Christmas and I'm not even religious.

I love spending time with Family and good friends.

the look on the little ones faces opening up presents is priceless, really

Just because a person does not want to put up a tree and partake in gratuitous gift-giving and crap once a year does not make them a miserable bastard.

How do you know this is not a nice person? He/she did take the tree out, after all. He or she sounds to me like simply had enough of all the pomp and circumstance surrounding this holiday. So what? Let that person be.

You know, it is rather sheep-like and very controlling to REQUIRE that everyone participate in something like a holiday. It's not mandatory, and you can still be a good person and not put up a tree. That's really shallow. I'm sure you would think of OP as a great person if he/she handed out gifts to all the family, put on a fake face, etc.

What about if OP just helps others in more significant ways? Like bring a forgotten person cookies in a nursing home, offer to tutor a child who is failing or struggling at school, ask a neighbor who is elderly if they'd like their leaves raked/garbage bins taken out regularly?

THESE are the signs of a good person, with Christmas in his or her heart. All year long.

You know what? If you don't like it, go stick your head in a hole. We don't all have to march to the beat of your drum, control freak. Get a grip. Everyone is free, and many are good. Take a 2nd look.

Agree.

There's always Hannukah

Last Edited by tarfonwxx on 12/02/2012 01:23 PM

Yep, The Zionist Jew Retailers did a number on all holidays. Just look at all the jew jewler commercials.

When I was a little kid (way long ago), we didn't have much money. We always got Christmas presents though, including new pajamas, which is the only time we got them. We got a few toys and sometimes shoes and underwear. I NEVER felt under-gifted, or felt that my parents didn't love me. I was grateful for what I got. When my kids were little I bought them way too much stuff, but stopped doing that when it got out of hand. My kids are adults now, and we celebrate Christmas very nicely. Homemade gifts and lots of baking (and wine). Life is good.

That's the most important part. Spending time with family and friends. Eating good food and exchanging gifts :)

It's always been that way. Then again poor people are gifted lots of shit from charities if they know where to look. At my sons school all the poor kids get loads of shit. The high school kids take them shopping, they get to get a couple gifts for each family member and gifts for themselves and then a week or so before Christmas the kids stop by your home and drop the presents off.

Toys for tots. People on welfare can also sign up to get gifts for Christmas as well. Churches have programs for poor families at Christmas as well.

For me, when you find out that so much of what you had been led to believe in your life is, was and will be a complete and utter LIE, well it kinda sours you on the things that once may have brought you joy.

It's kinda like this for me anyways, knowing after years of rabbit holes and soul searching and coming to the gut feeling that we the general public (slaves) have been literally fed shit and kept in the dark as to be raised to be authority controlled mindless fools of a corrupt system and then realizing this has been done to you on purpose, ya it makes ya a little sour on stupid mass marketing holidays.

Hmm, 9/11 and all the death that surrounds it, but I'm gonna pretend it doesn't exist and play satan claws and hand out china made crap we don't need.

Or, I'm gonna go buy that china made crap we don't need with debt notes from the fed or bank of Canada that get printed at interest just so I can be enslaved to the criminal foreign banking cabal even further. All while singing we wish you a merry Christmas??

Sorry the secrets are out and the gig is up, I cannot pretend that everything is okay in the land of make believe and lies any longer. My eyes were once blind but now they see. Anyone who tells these lies to children only consent to slavery. If only we can hang on to the spirit of Christmas and do away with all the pagan rituals and commercial and materialism that surrounds it.

Try celebrating Ramadan.
You can turn that bitter feeling into a suicide bombing.

All true and great ideas, but OP is PMSing and wants to wallow in misery, not fix anything.

In other words, AC 28880109 nailed it.

like anything in life, its what you make of it

and its ok being a misery guts when you dont have kids. you can please yourself, but i defy any parent to go full-on grinchtard. no, parents generally have to get into the spirit of it

pity any kid who is raised by 'honest' parents who 'refuse to participate in the lie'

christmas has never been about religion to me, its a wintertime celebration, to appreciate your loved ones and friends, some time off the usual routine. pagan, maybe? i dont really care

This is the first sign of a muslimfication.

I am a father of 5, with 3 grandkids, and we have a celebration of the birth of Jesus now. Their are a few gifts given to the grandkids, and monetary gifts to the adult children. We decided years ago, that it is all about the birth of Christ. My wife decided to have the tree hung from the ceiling upside down, and decorate it with a Christian theme, instead of a Santa Clause theme. I know it sounds strange, but it looks amazing, and the adult children, and grandkids love it. This is about the birth of baby Jesus, and not some commercial gimmic to see how much you can spend!

Fuck all zionist american holidays!!!!