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How is this even a surprise to anyone? I thought this was something everyone knew about.
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Kudos to Binney and the other two guys for blowing the whistle.

Whistleblowers are courageous people, though often viewed as the bad guys, especially by their co-workers who are cowards, willing to just look the other way, collect their checks, and call it a day.

The NSA is one of THE most traitorous factions in America today.
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The NSA is heroic and has saved most of NATO a large number of attempted attacks.

More than you would ever know, or want to know.
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I'm sure they have but what are they turning into now? When they develop this kind of technology and turn it inward, against our own people, its the stuff Tyranny is made of. Constitutional protections (like the 4th Amendment) were put into place because man IS EVIL and can't be trusted. The NSA doesn't need to read my posts or email to keep the country safe. Hell, if they did such a great job with what they were doing 20 years ago, why throw the baby out with the bath now?

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Wouldn't it be great if all that data could be used to prove who really did 911?
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is it like free Carbonite service for everyone? bdance
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Wouldn't it be great if all that data could be used to prove who really did 911?
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NSA must have WASTED HUGE HARD DRIVE SPACE storing junk MSGS.
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they don't care, the tax payers are paying for it
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But the biggest idiots in this whole scenario, are atheists. They are so blinded by the "god" of this age, that they can't see what is right in front of their faces. They've been so thoroughly deceived by Satan's highly effective puppets, that they are living under a strong delusion, and actually view the truth as "delusion".

"Intelligent" people (who themselves are deceived) like George Carlin, have effectively removed any shred of faith they may have had, through the use of humor and entertainment. They cannot even see the evil in someone who always wears black, has the absolute FOULEST mouth on the planet, displays the deepest and darkest cynicism, openly and sincerely states that he LOVES natural disasters that kill MILLIONS of people, and places himself "above" the human race, by portraying himself as "so much better" than the rest of you people, who make him sick.

George Carlin was like Satan in the flesh. Very entertaining, but very evil, at heart. Right about many things, but oh so wrong about what REALLY matters in the end. And this guy took a LOT of people with him, away from the truth, through trusting in his own FLAWED "wisdom".

I'm sure that Satan himself has a dazzling sense of humor too, and could probably show up the worlds best comedians. Even so, he could never stand up to the word of God, without being exposed as the LIAR that he is. Just as Satan could not stand up to Jesus, when Jesus rebuked Him with "It is written..."

Every argument I ever saw come out of Carlin's mouth (concerning God) was a distortion of the truth. And EASY to expose, by people who know the word. But his method was very effective, on people who DON'T know the word of God, and cannot see the tactics of the enemy, thereby being totally deceived, by what is OBVIOUS, to the prudent.

Why do I use George Carlin as an example? Because he greatly influenced a LOT of atheist people, who even to this day, don't realize that they literally got their theology from this highly entertaining (and deceived) individual. Or at least had it greatly helped along by this guy. They admire and reverence Carlin so much, that they use exact quotes from his routines, to support their arguments. Apparently not realizing that some people KNOW exactly where they got it from.

But back to the atheists today... Even as every single prophecy of the old and new testament, (including the Mark of the Beast) is fulfilled, or in the process of being fulfilled, they STILL cannot see it.

Even the power "elite" believe in a "god", only it's not the real God, but the pretender to the throne. The "god" of this age. The true Creator God's people can see the struggle that is going on, and know there is a God. The Luciferians have their OWN "god". But the atheists are just 100% spiritually blind. They are SO blind that cannot see this MONUMENTAL battle going on, all around them.

The scriptures say that Satan "deceives the whole world". All except for the very elect. I suggest that you stop placing your faith in comedians, and get serious about learning the truth, with a sincere heart, and genuine intentions.

It won't be much longer before the rest of the TOTAL CONTROL GRID is in place, and you will not even be able to fart, without the "authorities" knowing about it. Let alone, buying and selling.

The whole system is satanic to the core, just like Hollywood, the media, "education", "government", and yes... man-made institutionalized RELIGION. If it's mainstream ANYTHING, then Satan is running the show.

You atheists who can't see this, are truly the blindest, most deceived people on earth. Even the "elite" know that there is a god. Ironic that you people who can't see the obvious, call people who CAN see the truth, "stupid".
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First of all, I do not disagree with your anthem against the NSA, (which I did not include in the quote of your post).

But beyond that . . .

Your anti-atheist rant is, perhaps more than any I've read here, absolute PROOF of your total lack of faith and belief.

That someone who claims to be an absolute believer in a christian god, you are giving "satan" total credit for what's happening in the world, rather than focusing on the positives and power of your "god".

And the fact that you are so angry, so filled with hate against atheists, means that you are not a loving, open-minded, respectful person - despite the fact that it seems perfectly logical that a truly loving "god" would advocate that his believers possess such positive and good traits.

To the contrary of what you claim, most atheists and agnostics understand more clearly what's going on in this universe than ANY so-called believer or hardcore religionist could ever begin to understand or interpret - because their thought processes are not clouded by bias, bigotry, hate, and disrespect and their spirit is not veiled in hypocrisy and ignorance and negatively-driven agendas.

I believe that you - and others like you - should step back and ask yourselves WHY you are so filled with hate and disrespect.

And I contend that you all could learn a great deal from atheists and agnostics and the intelligent freethinkers of this world.
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There is an ocean of data and a minnow to figure it out.
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Agreed but could you imagine things if ai becomes reality
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NSA must have WASTED HUGE HARD DRIVE SPACE storing junk MSGS.
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Seriously, it would take the size of a small country to house all the data and crap posted daily on the interwebz.
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read about quantum memory
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NSA must have WASTED HUGE HARD DRIVE SPACE storing junk MSGS.
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Right now its simply to be gathered and stored so that if they deem you a threat or target they can pull up all this data on you and ruin your life / family / career.

It seems to be mainly used against whistle-blowers or people like that General Petereus mentioned in the video.

I'm sure it won't be long until they can analyse it all as it comes in.
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If they would ever try that, then the prosecutor, judge and anyone involved should have to have all their information pulled and shown to the court. I guarantee that would stop them in their tracks.
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You know, pretty soon, judges and juries will be obsolete.
\peace
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NSA must have WASTED HUGE HARD DRIVE SPACE storing junk MSGS.
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POOT! s226rockon
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NSA must have WASTED HUGE HARD DRIVE SPACE storing junk MSGS.
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Right now its simply to be gathered and stored so that if they deem you a threat or target they can pull up all this data on you and ruin your life / family / career.

It seems to be mainly used against whistle-blowers or people like that General Petereus mentioned in the video.

I'm sure it won't be long until they can analyse it all as it comes in.
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If they would ever try that, then the prosecutor, judge and anyone involved should have to have all their information pulled and shown to the court. I guarantee that would stop them in their tracks.
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You know, pretty soon, judges and juries will be obsolete.
\peace
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Pretty soon, the big computer will just tell the death squads which one of us to liquidate next.
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First of all, I do not disagree with your anthem against the NSA, (which I did not include in the quote of your post).

But beyond that . . .

Your anti-atheist rant is, perhaps more than any I've read here, absolute PROOF of your total lack of faith and belief.

That someone who claims to be an absolute believer in a christian god, you are giving "satan" total credit for what's happening in the world, rather than focusing on the positives and power of your "god".

And the fact that you are so angry, so filled with hate against atheists, means that you are not a loving, open-minded, respectful person - despite the fact that it seems perfectly logical that a truly loving "god" would advocate that his believers possess such positive and good traits.

To the contrary of what you claim, most atheists and agnostics understand more clearly what's going on in this universe than ANY so-called believer or hardcore religionist could ever begin to understand or interpret - because their thought processes are not clouded by bias, bigotry, hate, and disrespect and their spirit is not veiled in hypocrisy and ignorance and negatively-driven agendas.

I believe that you - and others like you - should step back and ask yourselves WHY you are so filled with hate and disrespect.

And I contend that you all could learn a great deal from atheists and agnostics and the intelligent freethinkers of this world.
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granny

You "freethinking" sons a bitches are the ones that got us into this mess.
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Right now its simply to be gathered and stored so that if they deem you a threat or target they can pull up all this data on you and ruin your life / family / career.

It seems to be mainly used against whistle-blowers or people like that General Petereus mentioned in the video.

I'm sure it won't be long until they can analyse it all as it comes in.
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If they would ever try that, then the prosecutor, judge and anyone involved should have to have all their information pulled and shown to the court. I guarantee that would stop them in their tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1371185


You know, pretty soon, judges and juries will be obsolete.
\peace
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Pretty soon, the big computer will just tell the death squads which one of us to liquidate next.
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Yes, I believe your response is not only logical but a probability given our current trajectory.
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It started under Clinton
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NSA Decode this:

O51&I^lkjhgU&%JHgI&^i6o8kjHKGK!jk1h~JHLIU8545rey][lkJnjkjh*&5​465410...
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Oh! How rude!

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NSA can suck my balls.. ya..thats right, keep that on file!
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That's 5 stars in my book. Right on, man..

Peace.
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First of all, I do not disagree with your anthem against the NSA, (which I did not include in the quote of your post).

But beyond that . . .

Your anti-atheist rant is, perhaps more than any I've read here, absolute PROOF of your total lack of faith and belief.

That someone who claims to be an absolute believer in a christian god, you are giving "satan" total credit for what's happening in the world, rather than focusing on the positives and power of your "god".

And the fact that you are so angry, so filled with hate against atheists, means that you are not a loving, open-minded, respectful person - despite the fact that it seems perfectly logical that a truly loving "god" would advocate that his believers possess such positive and good traits.

To the contrary of what you claim, most atheists and agnostics understand more clearly what's going on in this universe than ANY so-called believer or hardcore religionist could ever begin to understand or interpret - because their thought processes are not clouded by bias, bigotry, hate, and disrespect and their spirit is not veiled in hypocrisy and ignorance and negatively-driven agendas.

I believe that you - and others like you - should step back and ask yourselves WHY you are so filled with hate and disrespect.

And I contend that you all could learn a great deal from atheists and agnostics and the intelligent freethinkers of this world.
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granny

You "freethinking" sons a bitches are the ones that got us into this mess.
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No doubt, this ^^^ bit of kindness and respect coming from a "good christian" who never thinks for himself/herself.

Enjoy your sheeple existence.
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No human being could make heads or tales of such vast bandwidth even if possible but you can use your imagination what could yoda
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NSA, suck my dick.

Signed,

Elaine
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I hope they're getting this:

( . Y . )

and this:

8===============D
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It started under Clinton
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How so? I'm curious.

hf
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I hope they're getting this:

( . Y . )

and this:

8===============D
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LOL...that's hysterical! I'm new to key board art and I can't believe I actually get it. I'm not known for getting jokes that's for sure.
ura
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are you sure he isnt a psy op trying to scare everyone into keeping quiet?

the govt makes so many mistakes daily do you honestly think they can do this now


if you are a target as they said they might watch you but unless you use a cc card or something I doubt that they are already using this on everyone

you know the states are just now trying to integrate nationally for the police and past records on people, they still need to use the phone lines to ask questions or to find some basic info out (as they themselves stated they are not CSI) How on earth do you think they could be doing this with any speed or exact person useages yet? They usually have been concerned with their own records (govt workers) and also foreign intelligences first, not yours, the corporations want yours for marketing info.

If it a federal offence to open someones regular mail then it should be the same for email.
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fuck the nsa, fuck the nwo store that bitch face. fuck your life LOL.
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NSA must have WASTED HUGE HARD DRIVE SPACE storing junk MSGS.
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they don't care, the tax payers are paying for it
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I was told by an insider about 12 years ago, that one of the MAIN initial (and ongoing) purposes for the internet, was for the categorization of men, women, and children.

It's ALWAYS been about data-mining. And this new mega-traitorous facility in Utah is the crowning glory. One that Hitler could only have dreamed about.

Back in the 40's, one of Hitlers biggest frustrations, was not being able to tell for certain, who was loyal to the Reich, and who posed a THREAT to the Reich. Which was a legitimate concern.

All of these latest advancements in tyranny tools, are going to end up creating an out-of-control LIVING HELL.

The IDIOT on this thread who was spouting the "virtues" of the NSA, is going to rue the day he praised this illegal and unconstitutional abomination.
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But the biggest idiots in this whole scenario, are atheists. They are so blinded by the "god" of this age, that they can't see what is right in front of their faces. They've been so thoroughly deceived by Satan's highly effective puppets, that they are living under a strong delusion, and actually view the truth as "delusion".

"Intelligent" people (who themselves are deceived) like George Carlin, have effectively removed any shred of faith they may have had, through the use of humor and entertainment. They cannot even see the evil in someone who always wears black, has the absolute FOULEST mouth on the planet, displays the deepest and darkest cynicism, openly and sincerely states that he LOVES natural disasters that kill MILLIONS of people, and places himself "above" the human race, by portraying himself as "so much better" than the rest of you people, who make him sick.

George Carlin was like Satan in the flesh. Very entertaining, but very evil, at heart. Right about many things, but oh so wrong about what REALLY matters in the end. And this guy took a LOT of people with him, away from the truth, through trusting in his own FLAWED "wisdom".

I'm sure that Satan himself has a dazzling sense of humor too, and could probably show up the worlds best comedians. Even so, he could never stand up to the word of God, without being exposed as the LIAR that he is. Just as Satan could not stand up to Jesus, when Jesus rebuked Him with "It is written..."

Every argument I ever saw come out of Carlin's mouth (concerning God) was a distortion of the truth. And EASY to expose, by people who know the word. But his method was very effective, on people who DON'T know the word of God, and cannot see the tactics of the enemy, thereby being totally deceived, by what is OBVIOUS, to the prudent.

Why do I use George Carlin as an example? Because he greatly influenced a LOT of atheist people, who even to this day, don't realize that they literally got their theology from this highly entertaining (and deceived) individual. Or at least had it greatly helped along by this guy. They admire and reverence Carlin so much, that they use exact quotes from his routines, to support their arguments. Apparently not realizing that some people KNOW exactly where they got it from.

But back to the atheists today... Even as every single prophecy of the old and new testament, (including the Mark of the Beast) is fulfilled, or in the process of being fulfilled, they STILL cannot see it.

Even the power "elite" believe in a "god", only it's not the real God, but the pretender to the throne. The "god" of this age. The true Creator God's people can see the struggle that is going on, and know there is a God. The Luciferians have their OWN "god". But the atheists are just 100% spiritually blind. They are SO blind that cannot see this MONUMENTAL battle going on, all around them.

The scriptures say that Satan "deceives the whole world". All except for the very elect. I suggest that you stop placing your faith in comedians, and get serious about learning the truth, with a sincere heart, and genuine intentions.

It won't be much longer before the rest of the TOTAL CONTROL GRID is in place, and you will not even be able to fart, without the "authorities" knowing about it. Let alone, buying and selling.

The whole system is satanic to the core, just like Hollywood, the media, "education", "government", and yes... man-made institutionalized RELIGION. If it's mainstream ANYTHING, then Satan is running the show.

You atheists who can't see this, are truly the blindest, most deceived people on earth. Even the "elite" know that there is a god. Ironic that you people who can't see the obvious, call people who CAN see the truth, "stupid".
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First of all, I do not disagree with your anthem against the NSA, (which I did not include in the quote of your post).

But beyond that . . .

Your anti-atheist rant is, perhaps more than any I've read here, absolute PROOF of your total lack of faith and belief.

That someone who claims to be an absolute believer in a christian god, you are giving "satan" total credit for what's happening in the world, rather than focusing on the positives and power of your "god".

And the fact that you are so angry, so filled with hate against atheists, means that you are not a loving, open-minded, respectful person - despite the fact that it seems perfectly logical that a truly loving "god" would advocate that his believers possess such positive and good traits.

To the contrary of what you claim, most atheists and agnostics understand more clearly what's going on in this universe than ANY so-called believer or hardcore religionist could ever begin to understand or interpret - because their thought processes are not clouded by bias, bigotry, hate, and disrespect and their spirit is not veiled in hypocrisy and ignorance and negatively-driven agendas.

I believe that you - and others like you - should step back and ask yourselves WHY you are so filled with hate and disrespect.

And I contend that you all could learn a great deal from atheists and agnostics and the intelligent freethinkers of this world.
 Quoting: itsamadmadworld




Hey... I'm not here to just tell HALF the truth, and then leave out the MOST important half.

I stand by my words, 100%. You atheists ARE the blindest people in the world. I find it amusing that you also think of yourselves as the most "enlightened", while living in gross darkness.

I knew that the atheist portion of my "rant" would alienate plenty of people, but like I said, I'm not here to pull any punches, or sugarcoat the most important aspect of the spiritual battle going on.

Until you understand it, and see the reality in it, you will continue to live in darkness, and go on thinking that it's just a "coincidence" that ALL bible prophecies have come true, and that all the time-based prophecies being fulfilled to the very year they were prophesied to, is just mere "coincidence".

You pride yourself on "logic", when there is no logic in your argument. You pride yourself as a "Free thinker"? Well, Satan himself is the worlds greatest "free thinker". He's so into "freedom", that he doesn't believe that there should be any RULES in God's kingdom. He thinks that he should be allowed to be his OWN "god".

Sorry, but the job position is FILLED. And you can see the results of a "free thinker" like Satan, wanting to be God, and turning what was once paradise, into a deteriorating, misery filled, DYING world.

You "free thinkers" are just fooling yourself. You will go down with the ship. You are not God, and you do not make the rules. And God, being the Creator, has the sovereign right to decide who lives in HIS creation, and who doesn't.

Satan's time is almost finished. God gave you a way out of this hell called earth, but you spit at His free gift. So be it. But I assure you, that His will, will be done, whether you believe, or don't believe.

And the beautiful part of it all, is that I do not even NEED to convince you of the truth, because it will all become SELF-EVIDENT, in the not too distant future.

You'll get your chance to see that the half of my rant that you didn't like, is actually the half that you should have listened to.

Enjoy the time you have left, my "free thinking" friend.

Dark dark days ahead.
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Good then they will have no misconceptions about how I feel towards them and their commie tendencies.
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First of all, I do not disagree with your anthem against the NSA, (which I did not include in the quote of your post).

But beyond that . . .

Your anti-atheist rant is, perhaps more than any I've read here, absolute PROOF of your total lack of faith and belief.

That someone who claims to be an absolute believer in a christian god, you are giving "satan" total credit for what's happening in the world, rather than focusing on the positives and power of your "god".

And the fact that you are so angry, so filled with hate against atheists, means that you are not a loving, open-minded, respectful person - despite the fact that it seems perfectly logical that a truly loving "god" would advocate that his believers possess such positive and good traits.

To the contrary of what you claim, most atheists and agnostics understand more clearly what's going on in this universe than ANY so-called believer or hardcore religionist could ever begin to understand or interpret - because their thought processes are not clouded by bias, bigotry, hate, and disrespect and their spirit is not veiled in hypocrisy and ignorance and negatively-driven agendas.

I believe that you - and others like you - should step back and ask yourselves WHY you are so filled with hate and disrespect.

And I contend that you all could learn a great deal from atheists and agnostics and the intelligent freethinkers of this world.
 Quoting: itsamadmadworld




granny

You "freethinking" sons a bitches are the ones that got us into this mess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28953439


No doubt, this ^^^ bit of kindness and respect coming from a "good christian" who never thinks for himself/herself.

Enjoy your sheeple existence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28953033



I'm not the one who responded to you earlier, but I will say this:

Your days of "free thinking" are rapidly coming to an end.

Your "free thinking" has created a world of utter godlessness, and lawlessness.

So, ironically, your free thinking" is going to end up destroying itself, with a tyranny unlike the world has ever seen. Pretty soon, thinking is ALL you'll be able to get away with.

You can thank the MASTER free thinker for that.

Enjoy.





GLP