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I use colloidal silver for those nasty coughs...and I have told multitudes to do the same...

BUT...w/the silver...you need to put it in a spray bottle of some sort and INHALE the spray...YOU WANT IT IN YOUR LUNGS!!!! It works quick...2 days you should be done w/cough!

Some have tried a vaporizer...??? but unless you get directly over it, it MIGHT NOT work????

I and others spray (small spray bottle) directly in to lungs while we inhale deeply!

You won't regret it!

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Thanks for the tips because I have been taking Collodial Silver for days now for my bronchitis and is it doing NOTHING to stop the coughing.

I will spray it like you said and also put it in the humidifier.

The Nasocort and Albuteral is doing nothing to stop the coughing.
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Start taking 10,000 IU daily of Vit. D3.

If you get sick -

Take 100,000 IU daily of Vit. A for 3 days. (no longer or the Vit. A will become toxic)

After 7 days, switch over to 150,000 IU daily of Vit. D3.

After 7 days, back down to 10,000 IU daily of Vit. D3.

D3 is a fat soluble pre-hormone. You can't OD on the above recommended doses.
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Is it good to have D3 circulating through your system? Sure.

Will it stop you getting this bug? Who knows, to infer that it will is misleading.
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I've had a heavy deep cough for 4 months now and started puking up quite a bit of blood almost every morning for the last week.
I've done all the testing and everything seems fine. Could this be a bug like the one in this thread cause doctors have no clue.
Btw I'm only 20 and fairly healthy.
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Ask the Dr to do a blood test for Alpha-1 Antitrypsin Deficiency

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Um wow, considering my work is drywall (constant drywall dust) and cigarettes I'll definitely call tomorrow. Thanks for the post but at age 20 I really hope this isn't it.
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This is why I keep outside human contact to a bare minimum.

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It's not significant .. This is a staph infection
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colloidal silver will kill it, eh?
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My 6 year old son got "bronchitis" Oct.22, 2012, he is still coughing a couple times a day! They said it was bacterial, I got this as well about 3 weeks ago! I am still coughing up crap! They gave me 3 different antibiotics, I stopped on the second day of my 3rd antibiotic, it was making me sooo sick! I feel better, just coughing in the morning , I can hear it breaking up in my chest or upper respiratory , still have some yellowish crap!

I am scared!!!!
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Heavens above!!! A GLPer taking antibiotics!!!! Don't you listen to the cautionary tales of Mopar?

It doesn't matter what's going around you DON'T vaccinate and certainly don't take antibiotics!!

Just a bit of sunshine (that's Vit D3, in case you didn't know!) ... And good thoughts and you will be as right as rain! /sarc
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"And so far, they’ve emerged almost exclusively in health care facilities, picking off the weakest of patients."

Sorry but no doom here
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microbiologist here, a CRE organism, or better known in the medical lab as KPC, which stands for Klebsiella pneumoniae carbapenemase, are gram negative rods.

Staph species are NOT Gram negative rods, they are gram positive cocci, and the drugs used to target gram pos from gram negative differs greatly.

Chances are good that if you're still at home and coughing and your excretions are wierd looking, be happy! why? because your body ACTUALLY has an immune system to fight off the bacteria thats causing the harm. In other words, you DO NOT HAVE KPC, OR CRE!!!

Now, contrast your situation with those that are in the hospital settings, not only are they on multiple medications, those medications are also making them weaker to fight off the bug.

I appreciate a good DOOMSDAY scenario as the next guy, but we have to be realistic about this. Yes, it does occur in hospital settings more often, yes its very tough to treat, the morbidity rate is scary, but lets not get too frenzy about it if the only place its targeting is the hospital itself, and not out in the general public space.
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My 6 year old son got "bronchitis" Oct.22, 2012, he is still coughing a couple times a day! They said it was bacterial, I got this as well about 3 weeks ago! I am still coughing up crap! They gave me 3 different antibiotics, I stopped on the second day of my 3rd antibiotic, it was making me sooo sick! I feel better, just coughing in the morning , I can hear it breaking up in my chest or upper respiratory , still have some yellowish crap!

I am scared!!!!
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Get some colloidal silver quick! It works, cured my pneumonia in 4 days!
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This does work have used it many times,streph throat,severe colds, etc...
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I wonder how the lack of enzymes in our diet plays into this.
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get your fucking Herb Thyme Tea out get your Oil of Oregano and lets do this
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My 6 year old son got "bronchitis" Oct.22, 2012, he is still coughing a couple times a day! They said it was bacterial, I got this as well about 3 weeks ago! I am still coughing up crap! They gave me 3 different antibiotics, I stopped on the second day of my 3rd antibiotic, it was making me sooo sick! I feel better, just coughing in the morning , I can hear it breaking up in my chest or upper respiratory , still have some yellowish crap!

I am scared!!!!
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Weaponized mycoplasma..Doxycycline long term with a strong immune system should work
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My 6 year old son got "bronchitis" Oct.22, 2012, he is still coughing a couple times a day! They said it was bacterial, I got this as well about 3 weeks ago! I am still coughing up crap! They gave me 3 different antibiotics, I stopped on the second day of my 3rd antibiotic, it was making me sooo sick! I feel better, just coughing in the morning , I can hear it breaking up in my chest or upper respiratory , still have some yellowish crap!

I am scared!!!!
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Heavens above!!! A GLPer taking antibiotics!!!! Don't you listen to the cautionary tales of Mopar?

It doesn't matter what's going around you DON'T vaccinate and certainly don't take antibiotics!!

Just a bit of sunshine (that's Vit D3, in case you didn't know!) ... And good thoughts and you will be as right as rain! /sarc
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Are you being sincere or sarcastic?

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Holy Sheet ! I thought I would look up CRE and in the first minute of doing so, I have to look up other words and check this out !
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P.S. I have been taking antibiotics since July (4 different kinds so far) and I'm still sick, I was told I have a genetic condition called AATD but now I am wondering if that's true

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This bug has been around for some time, though it's dna might have gotten a protein tweak that may have made it a bit more virulent. This bug used to mainly effect immune comprimised individuals...such as people undergoing cancer treatment, etc...
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My 6 year old son got "bronchitis" Oct.22, 2012, he is still coughing a couple times a day! They said it was bacterial, I got this as well about 3 weeks ago! I am still coughing up crap! They gave me 3 different antibiotics, I stopped on the second day of my 3rd antibiotic, it was making me sooo sick! I feel better, just coughing in the morning , I can hear it breaking up in my chest or upper respiratory , still have some yellowish crap!

I am scared!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539806


Unfortunately, and I dont wish to sound to be making any personal attack on you, but.

The very thing that you did, ie, stopping a course of antibiotics half way through a course is EXACTLY how these superbugs have come to be.

Antibiotics make you feel better, but this is because they are killing what is making you sick.

If you begin to feel better that is because some but not all of the bugs that have been making you ill are gone but also some are still in your better feeling body and they need to be killed too.

Sure you will get better once your own defense system has had a leg up so to speak, but those last few (billions of)bugs that you didnt kill but exposed to your antibiotics will and do develop resistance to that antibiotic and you will continue for some time shedding these exposed bugs for others to pick and presto, that person cant get effective treatment with that antibiotic you were prescribed.

And so the process goes on until we have bugs that no known medicines will kill...SUPERBUGS!

"still have some yellowish crap"!You describe is absolutely FULL of partly exposed bugs, taking their first steps towards becoming another superbug, so please use good hygene and stay away from other people until you KNOW that you are totally clean again, please.

I do suggest that you have your sputum tested by a pathology lab, sorry but thats the only way to know, and if you still have a low grade infection, they will be able to identify what antibiotic will clear your infection.

This is all the result of people NOT being adequately educated in the correct use of antibiotics and consequences that can and have occurred.

I hope you fully recover and have no unpleasant outcomes.

cheers

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Sheet ! Check this out, look at the "image" of the phage ....


A bacteriophage (informally, phage) is a virus that infects and replicates within bacteria. The term is derived from 'bacteria' and the Greek &#966;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#8150;&#957; phagein "to devour". Bacteriophage are composed of proteins that encapsulate a DNA or RNA genome, and may have relatively simple or elaborate structures. Their genomes may encode as few as four genes, and as many as hundreds of genes. Phage replicate within bacteria following the injection of their genome into the cytoplasm. Bacteriophage are among the most common and diverse entities in the biosphere.[1]

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I use colloidal silver for those nasty coughs...and I have told multitudes to do the same...

BUT...w/the silver...you need to put it in a spray bottle of some sort and INHALE the spray...YOU WANT IT IN YOUR LUNGS!!!! It works quick...2 days you should be done w/cough!

Some have tried a vaporizer...??? but unless you get directly over it, it MIGHT NOT work????

I and others spray (small spray bottle) directly in to lungs while we inhale deeply!

You won't regret it!

applause
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Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes. It Works big time.

The old saying born with a silver spoon in your mouth comes from the days old days of the plague. They would give babies silver spoons to suck on. Kept them from getting sick.
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No, it was about babies born to financially wealthy people - that they were given a "silver spoon" - a culturally prosperous reference.
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It's not significant .. This is a staph infection
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yes and the people who get it are already very messed up and weak. Do you really think the elite and the wealthy are concerned about this for themselves? no.
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George bush sr. Is in the hospital...
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My 6 year old son got "bronchitis" Oct.22, 2012, he is still coughing a couple times a day! They said it was bacterial, I got this as well about 3 weeks ago! I am still coughing up crap! They gave me 3 different antibiotics, I stopped on the second day of my 3rd antibiotic, it was making me sooo sick! I feel better, just coughing in the morning , I can hear it breaking up in my chest or upper respiratory , still have some yellowish crap!

I am scared!!!!
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Get some colloidal silver quick! It works, cured my pneumonia in 4 days!
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Yes!!! Great for lots of things but way cheaper to make yourself! After you buy some and get treated first!
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microbiologist here, a CRE organism, or better known in the medical lab as KPC, which stands for Klebsiella pneumoniae carbapenemase, are gram negative rods.

Staph species are NOT Gram negative rods, they are gram positive cocci, and the drugs used to target gram pos from gram negative differs greatly.

Chances are good that if you're still at home and coughing and your excretions are wierd looking, be happy! why? because your body ACTUALLY has an immune system to fight off the bacteria thats causing the harm. In other words, you DO NOT HAVE KPC, OR CRE!!!

Now, contrast your situation with those that are in the hospital settings, not only are they on multiple medications, those medications are also making them weaker to fight off the bug.

I appreciate a good DOOMSDAY scenario as the next guy, but we have to be realistic about this. Yes, it does occur in hospital settings more often, yes its very tough to treat, the morbidity rate is scary, but lets not get too frenzy about it if the only place its targeting is the hospital itself, and not out in the general public space.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you telling us, the place we go, when we are sick, to get treatment, IS the place this KPC or CRE are spreading like wildfire?

That is NOT reassuring AC!
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They could kill us really fast chemtrailing this stuff and lacing our drinks with steroids.
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microbiologist here, a CRE organism, or better known in the medical lab as KPC, which stands for Klebsiella pneumoniae carbapenemase, are gram negative rods.

Staph species are NOT Gram negative rods, they are gram positive cocci, and the drugs used to target gram pos from gram negative differs greatly.

Chances are good that if you're still at home and coughing and your excretions are wierd looking, be happy! why? because your body ACTUALLY has an immune system to fight off the bacteria thats causing the harm. In other words, you DO NOT HAVE KPC, OR CRE!!!

Now, contrast your situation with those that are in the hospital settings, not only are they on multiple medications, those medications are also making them weaker to fight off the bug.

I appreciate a good DOOMSDAY scenario as the next guy, but we have to be realistic about this. Yes, it does occur in hospital settings more often, yes its very tough to treat, the morbidity rate is scary, but lets not get too frenzy about it if the only place its targeting is the hospital itself, and not out in the general public space.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you telling us, the place we go, when we are sick, to get treatment, IS the place this KPC or CRE are spreading like wildfire?

That is NOT reassuring AC!
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it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc.

Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small.
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microbiologist here, a CRE organism, or better known in the medical lab as KPC, which stands for Klebsiella pneumoniae carbapenemase, are gram negative rods.

Staph species are NOT Gram negative rods, they are gram positive cocci, and the drugs used to target gram pos from gram negative differs greatly.

Chances are good that if you're still at home and coughing and your excretions are wierd looking, be happy! why? because your body ACTUALLY has an immune system to fight off the bacteria thats causing the harm. In other words, you DO NOT HAVE KPC, OR CRE!!!

Now, contrast your situation with those that are in the hospital settings, not only are they on multiple medications, those medications are also making them weaker to fight off the bug.

I appreciate a good DOOMSDAY scenario as the next guy, but we have to be realistic about this. Yes, it does occur in hospital settings more often, yes its very tough to treat, the morbidity rate is scary, but lets not get too frenzy about it if the only place its targeting is the hospital itself, and not out in the general public space.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you telling us, the place we go, when we are sick, to get treatment, IS the place this KPC or CRE are spreading like wildfire?

That is NOT reassuring AC!
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it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc.

Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small.
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to add, the last time i worked on a suspected kpc specimen was around 10-12 months ago, and we've processed how many specimens cultures since then? must be hundreds and hundreds of specimens, before we ever see the next suspected kpc.
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microbiologist here, a CRE organism, or better known in the medical lab as KPC, which stands for Klebsiella pneumoniae carbapenemase, are gram negative rods.

Staph species are NOT Gram negative rods, they are gram positive cocci, and the drugs used to target gram pos from gram negative differs greatly.

Chances are good that if you're still at home and coughing and your excretions are wierd looking, be happy! why? because your body ACTUALLY has an immune system to fight off the bacteria thats causing the harm. In other words, you DO NOT HAVE KPC, OR CRE!!!

Now, contrast your situation with those that are in the hospital settings, not only are they on multiple medications, those medications are also making them weaker to fight off the bug.

I appreciate a good DOOMSDAY scenario as the next guy, but we have to be realistic about this. Yes, it does occur in hospital settings more often, yes its very tough to treat, the morbidity rate is scary, but lets not get too frenzy about it if the only place its targeting is the hospital itself, and not out in the general public space.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you telling us, the place we go, when we are sick, to get treatment, IS the place this KPC or CRE are spreading like wildfire?

That is NOT reassuring AC!
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it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc.

Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small.
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to add, the last time i worked on a suspected kpc specimen was around 10-12 months ago, and we've processed how many specimens cultures since then? must be hundreds and hundreds of specimens, before we ever see the next suspected kpc.
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as a measure of infection control, the hospital environmental staff usually does an excellent job of cleaning up after a patient had expired or discharged from the hospital. They would go through their stringent disinfectant procedures, and take a swab of the area and send to us to plate it ( that is an environmental culture), for example, a swab from a supposedly "clean" bedrail, or door handle, or sink, etc. That, and many other ways which i cannot list for the purpose of it being lengthy, is how hospitals would take great care in preventing anything from possibly transmitting it through the air or by contact.
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Take origano or grapefruit seed extract.

We are breathing air conditioning, mostly from pipes with poor care every day, how surprising.

Next summer cut air conditioning and open the window during the nigh, put the curtains during the day.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you telling us, the place we go, when we are sick, to get treatment, IS the place this KPC or CRE are spreading like wildfire?

That is NOT reassuring AC!
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it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc.

Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small.
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to add, the last time i worked on a suspected kpc specimen was around 10-12 months ago, and we've processed how many specimens cultures since then? must be hundreds and hundreds of specimens, before we ever see the next suspected kpc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28960778


as a measure of infection control, the hospital environmental staff usually does an excellent job of cleaning up after a patient had expired or discharged from the hospital. They would go through their stringent disinfectant procedures, and take a swab of the area and send to us to plate it ( that is an environmental culture), for example, a swab from a supposedly "clean" bedrail, or door handle, or sink, etc. That, and many other ways which i cannot list for the purpose of it being lengthy, is how hospitals would take great care in preventing anything from possibly transmitting it through the air or by contact.
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I'm currently watching CBC "The National" news program.. they just did a piece about seniors who cannot be discharged because they need medical care, but not necissarily hospital care.. and the doctor said, this puts the seniors in danger due to SUPER BUGS that are spread in hospitals. They then went on to say there needs to be more senior care facilities.. etc.

So they are admitting to this problem on MSM news! It must be very prolific for them to admit to something liks Super bugs spreading in hospitals.

Best look after yourself at home whenever possible and stay out of hospitals!

Who'd have thought we would get sicker by going to the hospital? That is just a nightmare scenario for those who have to go to the hospital for care.
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it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc.

Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small.
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to add, the last time i worked on a suspected kpc specimen was around 10-12 months ago, and we've processed how many specimens cultures since then? must be hundreds and hundreds of specimens, before we ever see the next suspected kpc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28960778


as a measure of infection control, the hospital environmental staff usually does an excellent job of cleaning up after a patient had expired or discharged from the hospital. They would go through their stringent disinfectant procedures, and take a swab of the area and send to us to plate it ( that is an environmental culture), for example, a swab from a supposedly "clean" bedrail, or door handle, or sink, etc. That, and many other ways which i cannot list for the purpose of it being lengthy, is how hospitals would take great care in preventing anything from possibly transmitting it through the air or by contact.
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I'm currently watching CBC "The National" news program.. they just did a piece about seniors who cannot be discharged because they need medical care, but not necissarily hospital care.. and the doctor said, this puts the seniors in danger due to SUPER BUGS that are spread in hospitals. They then went on to say there needs to be more senior care facilities.. etc.

So they are admitting to this problem on MSM news! It must be very prolific for them to admit to something liks Super bugs spreading in hospitals.

Best look after yourself at home whenever possible and stay out of hospitals!

Who'd have thought we would get sicker by going to the hospital? That is just a nightmare scenario for those who have to go to the hospital for care.
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it would have to depend on where you are, where those hospitals are. hospitals are not obliged to report to the general public of patient's bacterial cultures, unless if its a endemic situation that has never been encountered before. There are stringent policies in place to protect patient privacy, etc.

Now chances are good that your usual urine culture, or wound or blood culture, might harbor some other organisms that is NOT kpc or cre, because the likelihood of those cultures growing something extremely virulent is extremely small.
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to add, the last time i worked on a suspected kpc specimen was around 10-12 months ago, and we've processed how many specimens cultures since then? must be hundreds and hundreds of specimens, before we ever see the next suspected kpc.
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as a measure of infection control, the hospital environmental staff usually does an excellent job of cleaning up after a patient had expired or discharged from the hospital. They would go through their stringent disinfectant procedures, and take a swab of the area and send to us to plate it ( that is an environmental culture), for example, a swab from a supposedly "clean" bedrail, or door handle, or sink, etc. That, and many other ways which i cannot list for the purpose of it being lengthy, is how hospitals would take great care in preventing anything from possibly transmitting it through the air or by contact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28960778


I'm currently watching CBC "The National" news program.. they just did a piece about seniors who cannot be discharged because they need medical care, but not necissarily hospital care.. and the doctor said, this puts the seniors in danger due to SUPER BUGS that are spread in hospitals. They then went on to say there needs to be more senior care facilities.. etc.

So they are admitting to this problem on MSM news! It must be very prolific for them to admit to something liks Super bugs spreading in hospitals.

Best look after yourself at home whenever possible and stay out of hospitals!

Who'd have thought we would get sicker by going to the hospital? That is just a nightmare scenario for those who have to go to the hospital for care.
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superbugs aren't totally a new discovery, by anyone really. We try to do what we can to the limit of our understanding of how these bugs operate/resistance to getting killed/etc. by treating patients the best we can, it isn't always perfect, that's what its a "medical practice", even doctors aren't pros when it comes to healthcare, they all follow the same set of procedures/controls that has stood the test of time, and proven (statistically that if this is what you do, you should get so and so results) to work, alot of the times.

when you're older, into your senior age, your thymus gland slowly deteriorate, i.e. getting smaller and smaller, this reduces the amount of circulating and production of the t-helper cells, which are responsible for detection and destruction of the infected cells or bacteria, and get rid of it by sending signals to the cytotoxic t-cells to do its job, which is to kill virally infected cells and foreign antigens(in this case, it would be the bacteria by phagocytosis).

so naturally, its the really old ones and the really young ones with their immune system still developing, that are at a more higher risk of getting these infections.
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Re: Mysterious bacteria 'superbug' spreads across country - and it can't be stopped
It does seem something is going on. My daughter developed chicken pox, after receiving the vaccinations & now I have chicken pox!

It seems that either the virus is mutating or is far more potent than in the past.

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Ugh LJS,
Chicken Pox for adults is supposed to be miserable. Hope you get through it without too much grief!
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