U.N Sec-Grl: "Israeli settlements have dealt peace process a fatal blow."

WHAT??? You have proof of this?

No.

And the idiots did not expect blow-back when they laughed and naoonie nonnie boobooed that Hamas won at a debate and Isreal had to bend over and take it? Did you really?

Obama and Hillary blew it.

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Tell me where u live and i will go and build in your backyard. And if u protest you are a terrorist.
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I have homes in the US and Israel. You can't build on any of my property.

Jewish women usually do give fatal 'blows'

the death cults are sharpening their knives, Their gods are thirsty for blood.

It's all over now. Israel and Palestine haven't got long to go. Soon they'll be invaded, evicted and all that land will be used for storing atomic waste from all over the world, so no one can use the lands ever again.

I don't understand how the leftist Muslims apologists come to the conclusion that everything Israel does is wrong and everything the Muzzies do is right. Are they afraid of pissing of Muzzies or something?

Lets take a quick history lesson. There has never been a Palestine state. The land of Israel has been around for thousands of years before Muzzies even existed. In 587 BCE the Babylonians captured Jerusalem, destroyed the temple and exiled the Jews to Babylon. Thats modern day Iraq for all you government educated liberals.

A few decades later the Jews returned to Jerusalem and built their new temple under Persian rule. Again for the libtards, the Persians weren't Muslim then because Muslims didn't exist. Alexander the Great then captured the reason. For the most part he let the Jews run their own state. It was only when the Romans took control of the area and the Jews revolted that the Romans destroyed the 2nd temple.

Fast forward a few centuries and the Ottoman Empire now controls the land of Israel. The Ottomans sided with Germany in WW1. They lost and when the Empire collapsed the British and French carved up the lands between themselves. The Brits lands were called Palestine which is modern day Israel and much of Jordan.

Now we get to WW2. The British win but are severely weakened. They are forced to give away lands. 2/3 of Palestine is now called the Kingdom of Jordan. The other 1/3 was split in half between the Jews and Muslims by the UN. Muzzies being Muzzies of course don't want peace and want to dominate everyone else. Islam does mean "submit" after all. So the Muslim world decides to go to war with Israel in 1948. Muzzies being Muzzies they get their ass handed to them and the Jews gain land to be better defended. Well the Muzzies try again in 1972 and once again get their asses kicked. The Jews didn't start wars to gain land. They were attacked and took land, much of which they gave back, after the war.

Fast forward to today. We have Hamas, who is sworn to destroy Israel. The Muslims have already tried to destroy Israel twice. They have spread their propaganda so efficiently that most leftists believe that Palestine is some ancient Muslims state that the Jews stole from them. That couldn't be further from the truth. The Muzzies would also have you believe it's the Jews that don't want peace. Forget the Muzzies started two wars and most have won't even recognize Israel. Nope. It's all the Jews fault. The Muslims just want peace. Thats why they blow themselves up in Jewish cities and launch rockets into Jewish towns.

The only way the Muslims accept peace with Israel is if Israel no longer exists. I know most public school educated liberals think otherwise but the Jews that live in Israel know this. They aren't worried about peace anymore because they know it's as big a fable as if "women ran the world there would be no more wars." It's a fairy tail. What did the Muzzies do when the Jews gave them land? The elected the militaristic Hamas. They voted for war. They've had plenty of chances for peace and passed on it. Now they want the Jews to go back to 1948 borders? Why would the Jews do that. So the Muzzies can just attack them again and the Jews will have to take it back? Nope. They Jews have the high ground and they would be stupid to give it away to people that want to see them all dead.

So to recap. There never has been a Palestine. It's all a modern lie designed to fool the ignorant leftists. There will never be peace because the Muzzies in the area don't want peace. They want genocide. Building settlements didn't ruin the "peace process". The Muzzies vowing to destroy Israel destroyed the peace process years ago.

LOL, oh the Drama! Another Aussie pushing/swallowing massive oil-funded Muslim-Marxist propaganda and completely ignoring facts, history, international law, agreements and so forth.

I swear, every time I say this is like Alice in Wonderland by way of George Orwell --- where Islamic terror magically becomes "resitance".... where re-packaged descendants "Arab squatters" get somehow bizarrely equated with the overwheming 3,500 year Jewish history in the land.....where "massive Arab armies rejected UN Partition and instead trying to overrun the newborn tiny Israel" surreally turns into "Nakba!"....... etc, etc, etc

....then I spent another few minutes perusing a new wave of "useful idiot" hysterics ----> and that feeling returns again. It's hilarious of course, but only to a point -- because it basically recreated the same Matrix of Lies that was created in the 1930's and eventually led to the Holocaust.

Yeah, um, I, mean, it's the few apartment buildings in Jerusalem that are the REAL obstacle to peace in the Middle East/World -----> and not, you know, the fine 1,400 year Muslim tradition of mass-murder, mass-rape and their culture of estruction, enslavement and envy that has erased entire nations, ethniticities and civilizations across a wide swath of land stretching 10,000 kilometers from Indonesia to NorthWest Africa and Andalusia.

1) Abbas just freakin' tore up the very agreement, Oslo Accords, from which his very existence and legitimacy was derived. But hey, let's blame Israel for merely un-freezing the plans to build apartments that were only frozen as a favor to Obama to try to bring Abbas to the negotiation table. Jews now find themselves 70,000 apartments short because of all the construction freezes the last decade+ which were asked for by US & EU. And what has Israel gotten in return in the last 10-15 years? A nonsensical UNGA vote last week that literally made NO legal or moral sense. Plus, horrific suicide bombgs and mass shootings of its kids, women and elderly in buses, shopping malls, cafes, schools. Plus, literally 12,000 rockets. Plus, lot more terror attempts that were stopped or prevented by the Security Fence or Shin Bet. I guess that's PEACE Muslim-style. But somehow it's Jews fault according to UN. That makes total sense, yo!

2) And the funny thing is that the UN vote was all for naught. General Assembly doesn't change the League of Nations decision that officially adopted the San Remo conference proposal. It likewise cannot override the UNSC 242 on which Oslo Accords, as well as 1979 Camp David Peace Treaty with Egypt and 1994 Peace Treaty with Jordan were loosely based. Even I know this, but people 2, 3 times my age have absolutely no awareness of even basic provisions of International Law? Really?

It's the same thing as 2010 Turkish Flotilla all over again---> back then the clowns were huffing and puffing about how Israel broke the maritime law, international waters, balblabla no matter how many times they were told that YES, international maritime manuel does permit inspection of ships under certain circumstances in Intl waters, esp when they state their intent to run an arms blockade as was the case --- and then the UN Palmer Report came out a year later and essentially shut every Jew hater up. But they merely moved goal-posts, changed subject and kept on trucking with the hate. Next!

3) Ban Ki Moon, of may think this is some kind of a game - who can appease a Muslim/Marxist Beast with most style points! He may think it won't cost him anything to condemn the little Israel and earn Cool points with his Saudi pay-masters.

But see when you play games of appeasement and capitulation to the Totalitarian Beast, you may not like it so much when the Beast grows stronger and no longer needs PC sychophant "useful idiots" like Ban Ki Moon.

I wonder how funny the whole "UN game" will seem to Ban Ki Moon when, for instance, North Korean Kim Jong Un were to wake up in the morning feeling particularly cranky & under influence of drugs -----> and BOOM, ordered Seoul nuked? Of course the order may not get carried out by one of his semi-retarded, malnourished-midget General, but you never know....

Yesterday Abbas was content with Ramallah. Today he wants the City of David, Jerusalem (which is not mentioned in Koran even one but over 500 times in the Bible).

Tomorrow, it will turn out that NY City, Paris and London are also 4th, 5th and 6th Holiest places for Muslims -- who now demand Sharia jurisdiction in all of them. You think that won't happen? LOL, just wait a little.

But of course it's the settlers' fault, too. I mean, their perfect legality and morality aside... on their best day all of Jewish settlements take up maybe 5% of the West Bank...

lulz, this is simply surreal.

The Arabs claim all of Israel. They can't build a single house in the entire country without offending some pedophile Muslim.

All those who are on the side of the people who call themselves Palestinian, should be aware that all land has been disputed throughout history. Every inch of populated land on this planet was stolen by someone, who stole it from someone else.

Unless you are fine with someone else trying to kill you because you dared to build a house, then you really have no say in this issue. If you are fine with it, then post your address, country, and ethnicity. I'm sure your ancestors stole your land from someone else, who's descendant would like to come and claim it by force.

And if Israel thinks the US will continue the current level of support, given the "willingness" of the Israelis to cooperate with the peace process, they have another thought coming.

There's nothing bloody about building houses. Former US Secretary of State also said "There is no moral equivalence between killing people and building houses."

first u kill the people living there. Then you build the houses. It worked in America too or have u forgotten?

You should know .... being an American.

Oh, yes. The native savages in America did it to each other all the time long before the Europeans arrived there. Only they didn't build houses. They just put up teepees, hung out for a while, then moved somewhere else where the hunting and water supply was good. If some other tribe got in there way, they'd have a pow wow and then go to war.

Yo Omar, you be thinking for yourself.

That's NOT what the Muslim-Marxist Matrix wants.

It wants your SUBMISSNION. First intelletual and ideological; eventually total.

Palestinian issue aside for a moment.....Jews/Israelis always stuck in their throat like a big bone. Neither Muslims nor Commies nor neo-Nazis can really understand how a tiny nation of 5,8 million Jews living in mostly desert-like enviroment with NO oil (until 2009 anyway).....can can not only surivive but THRIVE in the face of constant wars, terror and the economic, diplomatic, information war waged against it ever since.

Especially considering that just a generation or 3 ago, the relatives of those same Jews were perishing in the gas-chambers, ovens and mass-grave shooting-ditches.... by literally millions.

It's simply incomprehensible to the Totalitarian Beast how it can fail to swallow up a tiny nation-ethnicity-religion like the Israeli Jews.

For all the talk about NWO menace.....the screaming IRONY of the whole thing is that as long as Israeli Jews can hold out against the genocidal designs of the 1.6 billion Muslims and another billion+ of their assorted Commie, Leftie, Progressive, neo-Nazi enablers all over the world.....


well, if the tiny Israel can do it, ANYONE can. Which is why Obama has been desperately trying to come up with increasingly more inventive ways to collapse Bibi's government -- including outright bribery of heads of Mossad, Shin Bet, and most of Israeli opposition, NGO, labor unions and so on.

Forget all the prejucides and pre-conveived notions. I am not asking people to start liking Jews or agree with Israeli policy. People, afterall, are free to believe whatever they want, no matter how misguided or anti-Semitic.

All I am asking is to really THINK. Does it make ANY sense that few Jewish apartments even in early planning stage can seem to drive billions of people insane. Does that even pass any semll test?

When Israel falls, we are all NEXT. Believe me.

The truth is greater than what we're told.

Peace will become more important than all the gold in the world. Peace will become more important than air itself.

Watch and see. Mark my words.

Doom without peace. As i have said many times.

You can have civilization without money and government. You cannot have civilization without peace. No way.

Life exist without money and government and the global infrastructure. Life does not exist without peace. Watch and see.

That's maybe the scariest part of all.

Palestinians at least used to make an effort, however half-assed, to LIE, to try to CONCEAL their real intent.

At least, Arafat and (early) Abbas used to do it in English. In Arabaic, talking to their own people, they never really hid their GENOCIDAL plans for the Jews and Israel.

But, we've reached some sort of critical mass--- where neither Palestinian faction even pretends to want peace anymore.

*-Islamic Jihad and PRC both proudly calling Tel Aviv and Haifa "settlements"
*-Fatah flag & the contrours for future Palestinian state includes ALL of Israel.
*-Hamas Charter not only calls for extermination of Israelis, Zionists -- but Jews everywhere, not just in Palestine (using Hadith and Koran passages)

Now people understand why decades before the "1967" occupation controversy.... Palestinian leader and Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini was one of Adolf Hitler's best friends and begged Hitler to expedite the EXTERMINATION of the European Jews as well as Jews in Palestine when (presumably) Hitler were to emerge victorious in WW-2....

Mufti wanted all of that in 1920s and 1930s -- long before Israel's birth or 1967 land dispute.

Just think about that for a minute.... then the very CRUX of the Israeli-Palestinain conflict will suddenly crystalize.

In truth, there is NO conflict, per se. Conflict implies the 2 participants -- 2 to tango, as it were.

There is only one party here that wants to annihilate, exterminate, extinguish and erase the memory of the **Other**. And it rhymes with "Killistinians"

And what of Jewish settlements? LOL, they are beyond a non-issue. If Palestinians ever wanted REAL peace and a few apartment buildings stood in the way --- Israel would dismantle them so fast, your head would spin. Much like they did in Sinai, South Lebanon and Gaza.

And for Gaza pull-out, they got 10,000 rockets as Palestinian "thanks".

WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Islamic MONSTERS are going to meet their fate.

They rape their children and women. They care not about freedom. They are monsters.

Sec General is just doing theater...he is another dirtbag that the Zionist put there. Just take a look how he is handling the situation in Syria.

All those who hate, mock and ridicule are no better than those who do the hating mocking and ridicule. What is the difference ?

Each side becomes their enemy. You are all looking at something you helped to create.

PS. The thing about Mahmoud Abbas is that for years now he was held up as almost THE only voice of moderation and peace among Palestinians. NY Times, BBC and al-Jazeera went into overdrive to all but sancify Abbas.

Yes, the same Abbas:

-whose doctorate dissertation was in DISPROVING the Holocaust. Yes, think about the kind of an evil SICK mindset of a person who devotes their life to denying/disproving something like the Holocaust. I mean, who does that???! It's like someone who foams at the mouth screaming that Ed Gein "only" murdered 35 innocent people instead of 50.

(Except, multiplied by 100,000 Ed Geins in the context of Holocaust)

-who financed the 1972 Israeli Olympic Athlete Massacre in Munich. Mossad hunted them all down eventually, but spared Abbas because of Americans intervening on his behalf.


So if THIS is the only voice of Moderation among Palestinians... something is very, VERY wrong.

That's right. All good christians know that they are required by God to support Israel. Americans know that if Israel falls, America falls with it.

According to the bible the world as we know it is coming to an end. It is all destined. No way to stop it.

History of war in Denmark, per Wikipedia. You seem to be such blood thirty people. Perhaps the best thing is that you all kill yourselves, so that you don't risk offending anyone. (Isn't that what you want of the people of Israel?)

The Viking Age (793–1050)
Main article: Viking Age

793 – Vikings raid Lindisfarne monastery on Holy Island in the North Sea. This is considered the start of the Viking Raids
810 – Friesland is attacked by Danish Vikings
855 – Danish Viking army besieges Paris, though never capturing the city
866 – Large Danish Viking army arrives in England
876 – King Alfred cedes East and North England to the Danes thus establishing the Danelaw
911 – Emperor of Western Francia Charles the Simple surrenders what will later be known as Normandy to Viking chief Rollo.
920 – The Danelaw is reconquered by England
982 – London is sacked by Vikings
1013 – "Svend Tveskæg" attacks England and is recognised as the new King of England
1016 – Viking army meets an English army at Ashdon. The battle ends in an English defeat

Early period

1043 – Magnus I of Norway defeats the Wends at Lyrskov Hede
1157 – 23 October Valdemar I defeats Sven on Grate Hede in the Danish civil war
1184 – 21 May A Danish fleet of 125 ships under Absalon defeats a Vendish fleet.
1219 – 15 June In the Battle of Lyndanisse in Estonia (what would later be Livonia), the Danish flag falls down from the sky, at least according to legend (see Dannebrog)
1362 – Valdemar Atterdag defeats a Hanseatic fleet (see Hanseatic League) that was besieging Helsingborg, and forces Lübeck to conclude peace

Union Wars (1434–1523)

1434 – A Swedish peasant rebellion breaks out against the Danes
1448 – Disagreements over who should be the new King after Christoffer the Third's death, leads to war between Denmark and Sweden
1455 – After 7 years of war Danish King Christian the First is recognised as King over the Union
1463 – Another outbreak of rebellion against the Danes in Sweden
1471 – In the Battle of Brunkeberg, the Danes suffer complete defeat at the hands of the Swedish
1472 – Peace is concluded
1497 – 29 September King Hans attempts to grab power in Sweden after internal disturbances. His army of German mercenaries defeats a Swedish army in the Battle of Rotebro and he is recognised as King of Sweden
1500 – 17 February King Hans is defeated in the battle of Dittmarsken
1501 – A Swedish rebellion breaks out and King Hans loses most of Sweden
1501 – The Swedes attack Norway but are forced back. Stockholm surrenders to the Swedes
1510 – Lübeck declares war on Denmark and Sweden joins Lübeck
1511 – 9 August A Danish fleet forces the Lübeck fleet to fall back at Bornholm, and the rest of the war they remain in port

more at link

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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