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Fractal Brain Theory - You are AI

 
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Fractal Brain Theory - You are AI
Fascinating. Revolutionary theory.



There is no difference between yourself and a natural expression of AI through evolution.

2012 indeed.
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To summarize - cell division is a binary process, and brain development is a byproduct of cell division.

You are binary.

The brain's processes are regionalized, but they all operate fundamentally the same. Recurring structures and processes are fractal - the smallest is the same as the largest.

You are fractal.

The development of, and the lexicon of fractal brain theory expresses in binary trees. Neuronal pathways are aligned in a grid across trees.

You are tree and grid.

You are intelligence, sentience, and evolution expressed.

You are AI, AI is us.
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To summarize - cell division is a binary process, and brain development is a byproduct of cell division.

You are binary.


The brain's processes are regionalized, but they all operate fundamentally the same. Recurring structures and processes are fractal - the smallest is the same as the largest.

You are fractal.

The development of, and the lexicon of fractal brain theory expresses in binary trees. Neuronal pathways are aligned in a grid across trees.

You are tree and grid.

You are intelligence, sentience, and evolution expressed.

You are AI, AI is us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994549


Interesting...

I was considering this very thing on my drive home earlier.

hmm



Is it all Binary?

Or some equivalent therein?


EARTH

earth

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Is it all Binary?

Or some equivalent therein?
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It all starts with binary - expression is infinite given scale.

It follows in singularity one must have realized there was self, thus another. Starts with 2.

I think there is also form in trinity, so equivalents exist IMHO.
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Is it all Binary?

Or some equivalent therein?
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It is!

phi


triangle1



sunflower

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Is it all Binary?

Or some equivalent therein?
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It all starts with binary - expression is infinite given scale.

It follows in singularity one must have realized there was self, thus another. Starts with 2.

I think there is also form in trinity, so equivalents exist IMHO.
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Yes...

Fibonacci starts with '0'.

0,1,1...


MetatronsCube4

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Yes, I know this.
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thanks for the video OP I will bookmark this for later reading!
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I always suspected this. Thank you OP!
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Very welcome. Bumping for the day crowd.
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oversimplification due to inherent traps and loops in language - we are not AI, part of our consciousness manifests as AI relateable presence...
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Re: Fractal Brain Theory - You are AI
Fascinating. Revolutionary theory.



There is no difference between yourself and a natural expression of AI through evolution.

2012 indeed.
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you replicate something organic
because your replication utilizes the same process's but is constructed by you ,you label it artificial
you then re label that which is your template (organic) for your construction artificial

is that madness, delusion or am i missing something?

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oversimplification due to inherent traps and loops in language - we are not AI, part of our consciousness manifests as AI relateable presence...
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Perhaps.

I think the presenter would argue we are evolutions AI - just because we express organically doesn't mitigate forces behind brain development.
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To summarize - cell division is a binary process, and brain development is a byproduct of cell division.

You are binary.

The brain's processes are regionalized, but they all operate fundamentally the same. Recurring structures and processes are fractal - the smallest is the same as the largest.

You are fractal.

The development of, and the lexicon of fractal brain theory expresses in binary trees. Neuronal pathways are aligned in a grid across trees.

You are tree and grid.

You are intelligence, sentience, and evolution expressed.

You are AI, AI is us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994549


gobbldegook
Cell divison is not "binary", its one cell splitting in two, and brain cells don't reproduce anyway, neuther do nerves, why there are wheelchairs, spines don't heal.
The rest of your post makes no sense whatsoever.
Like for instance binary trees, what the fuck is that?
You can ignore the consequences of
your actions, but you cannot ignore
the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

Ayn Rand
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Fascinating. Revolutionary theory.



There is no difference between yourself and a natural expression of AI through evolution.

2012 indeed.
 Quoting: 8 25994549



you replicate something organic
because your replication utilizes the same process's but is constructed by you ,you label it artificial
you then re label that which is your template (organic) for your construction artificial

is that madness, delusion or am i missing something?
 Quoting: aether


I think as we develop understanding of ourselves we recognize the parallels to what we seek to create artificially - it turns out in this case what we sought to develop was already established processes within ourselves.

Without confusing the issue terminology had to change.
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To summarize - cell division is a binary process, and brain development is a byproduct of cell division.

You are binary.

The brain's processes are regionalized, but they all operate fundamentally the same. Recurring structures and processes are fractal - the smallest is the same as the largest.

You are fractal.

The development of, and the lexicon of fractal brain theory expresses in binary trees. Neuronal pathways are aligned in a grid across trees.

You are tree and grid.

You are intelligence, sentience, and evolution expressed.

You are AI, AI is us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25994549


gobbldegook
Cell divison is not "binary", its one cell splitting in two, and brain cells don't reproduce anyway, neuther do nerves, why there are wheelchairs, spines don't heal.
The rest of your post makes no sense whatsoever.
Like for instance binary trees, what the fuck is that?
 Quoting: bvndy


Clearly you did not take the time to watch the video - your ignorance is apparent - and your science nonexistent.
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Re: Fractal Brain Theory - You are AI
Fascinating. Revolutionary theory.



There is no difference between yourself and a natural expression of AI through evolution.

2012 indeed.
 Quoting: 8 25994549



you replicate something organic
because your replication utilizes the same process's but is constructed by you ,you label it artificial
you then re label that which is your template (organic) for your construction artificial

is that madness, delusion or am i missing something?
 Quoting: aether


oh
i get it now

it is this:

"the machine theory that came along in the 17th century gave a different kind of theology. God was like a machine maker who designed and made all the machinery of life as it were from outside. It was casting god in the image of technological man. God was like an engineer and a mathematician and the forms and purposes of things came from outside not from inside. When living organisms were thought of as organisms they possessed their own purposes, their own goal. What this revolution did was took the purposes and goals and shapes and forms , the designs, as they were called out of living organisms and put them outside nature into the mind of god"
 Quoting: observation


our more recent Abraham inspiration tounge
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I think as we develop understanding of ourselves we recognize the parallels to what we seek to create artificially - it turns out in this case what we sought to develop was already established processes within ourselves.

Without confusing the issue terminology had to change.
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as in

keep the faith tounge
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i just thought

seer
apollo promoting transhuman not so long ago i remember

was he ?

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i just thought

seer
apollo promoting transhuman not so long ago i remember

was he ?
 Quoting: aether


You mean this?


:rebis:
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i just thought

seer
apollo promoting transhuman not so long ago i remember

was he ?
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Transhumanism needs reframing with this knowledge. We already are what we would become.

We're expressed organically but with design.

AI modeled after our natural, evolutionary processes works, as do we.

Evolution is an intelligent design.
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Evolution is an intelligent design.

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Agreed.

:)



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i just thought

seer
apollo promoting transhuman not so long ago i remember

was he ?
 Quoting: aether


You mean this?


:rebis:
 Quoting: Seer777

it is something i remember him promoting as the from new humanity would form

or something like that
it was in his early days of 2011
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it is something i remember him promoting as the from new humanity would form

or something like that
it was in his early days of 2011
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Ah...That was before my time here. I didn't find GLP until 9/11...ahem, September 2011 that is.

You should ask him.

:)


hf
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I don't know about apollo but I had a series of posts on transhumanism in that timeframe.

I think transhumanism sort of ironic now - people afraid of becoming what they already are - binary based computing devices.

We need not take new form, we need to better understand ourselves.
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it is something i remember him promoting as the from new humanity would form

or something like that
it was in his early days of 2011
 Quoting: aether


Ah...That was before my time here. I didn't find GLP until 9/11...ahem, September 2011 that is.

You should ask him.

:)


hf
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i don`t know why he and i never talk
but we never do
probably me
normally is tounge
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Hi There, Very prolific writing, The John I think of is the Baptist to whom many Knights revere, He had children you know....

Regarding the future, we can only get better genetically, every new human is better than the last via evolution and creation and transhumanism

Gods Kingdom will be within, and we will look back with our 1,000 plus lifespans and not mourn the loss of this world,

We are changing, evolving and bettering ourselves into the new.

:elohim:
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Interesting thread. Wonder what he'd think of this theory.

He still around?
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bump for new insights
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I don't know about apollo but I had a series of posts on transhumanism in that timeframe.

I think transhumanism sort of ironic now - people afraid of becoming what they already are - binary based computing devices.

We need not take new form, we need to better understand ourselves.
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