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If HEAVEN Is So Good, Why Were Angels So Tempted To Come Here?

 
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Short Answer:

God created a world where matter and spirit could interact. Spirits could inhabit flesh bodies temporarily, said bodies being otherwise animal without this spiritual habitation.

Through a series of unfortunate circumstances, including a certain degree of free-will rebellion, these spirits became stuck in matter and the Earth became a place where perfect beings could no longer inhabit or visit without fear of being trapped.

The first batch of beings created a new race of beings to be their servants while they were stuck here and alienated. These would also be spiritual beings but they would lack certain features that might turn them on to who they really are.

One day, the Earth will "come up" to a point where Angels and Resurrected beings will be able to step foot on Earth directly again and rescue any created beings from perishing when Earth falls for the last time.
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They were tempted by women and at the same time they wanted to have a family Children. They were created to serve and a partner for them was not created. Nor family so many got jealous that we had it and they did not. Which is the reason that some fell into temptation of the flesh nature and had families. The offsprings were what we know as Giants.
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Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?!

Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't...wtf
 Quoting: Bentleysports



No, angels didn't have to give up heaven, I think they can come and go as they want, it is the demons who are stuck here.
 Quoting: K.Kool


bingo...JACOB's LADDER(Jacob's Dream) points this out.
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Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?!

Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't...wtf
 Quoting: Bentleysports


Only thing i can come up with is beer and sex.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Yep, that's about it. Beer & chicks
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Question is, why would angels be sexually attracted to human females? That's like me being attracted to a monkey.
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Well that's when the beer comes in
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?!

Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't...wtf
 Quoting: Bentleysports




Satan was (just about) perfect, and he decided to tell God to "Move over--I want to run things."
Apparently 1/3 of the angels were convinced by him that they could help him run things, because 1/3 of all the angels followed him.
So God dismised them from heaven...they fell.
The devil saw the opportunity to mess up the gene pool so that the fallen angels injected the gene pool of the humans with "hybrids". They did not originally give it up for "this", but after they were here, Satan's diabolical plan began to try to prevent the perfect person, the Messiah from being born, and they will be sentenced to the lake of fire for all eternity.
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You're arguing conjecture and asking people to answer a question which is technically impossible to answer in an HONEST manner. Its all guess work.

First, you have to prove that there's a heaven with hard facts, and resources. Then, prove that there are "angels," which again, need hard facts, evidence, and resources. Then...prove that Angels were "tempted" to come here...which means, that you have to PROVE that something tempted them. Once you have proven something had tempted them, you then have to define what it is while providing PROOF, FACTS, and EVIDENCE.

After those things are done...then ask that question.

But, since you won't be able to prove any of the other points as fact, then, you must realize by now that your question really has no sound basis for existing at all, and should be tossed out as fallacious. --FALLACY--

-Yeah, I know God exists, and yes, I believe in Angels. I don't believe in religion though, and I certainly think certain sciences, mathematics, and theories involving evolution certainly have merit. There's also something to be said about "intelligent design" as well.

Nonetheless...if this is some sort of cry for attention, then, I am sorry that things are going badly for you. But, asking people to give you a definitive answer for an abstract question is just a bit SILLY.
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Angel's guard Saudi Arabia mosques of mecca and taibah from letting the Antichrist to go inside because he is not allowed into those places.
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I don't think it's a choice for Angels to come to earth. More like a consequence for their rebellion. Once they complete whatever then they can go back? I dunno.
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putin

You're arguing conjecture and asking people to answer a question which is technically impossible to answer in an HONEST manner. Its all guess work.

First, you have to prove that there's a heaven with hard facts, and resources. Then, prove that there are "angels," which again, need hard facts, evidence, and resources. Then...prove that Angels were "tempted" to come here...which means, that you have to PROVE that something tempted them. Once you have proven something had tempted them, you then have to define what it is while providing PROOF, FACTS, and EVIDENCE.

After those things are done...then ask that question.

But, since you won't be able to prove any of the other points as fact, then, you must realize by now that your question really has no sound basis for existing at all, and should be tossed out as fallacious. --FALLACY--

-Yeah, I know God exists, and yes, I believe in Angels. I don't believe in religion though, and I certainly think certain sciences, mathematics, and theories involving evolution certainly have merit. There's also something to be said about "intelligent design" as well.

Nonetheless...if this is some sort of cry for attention, then, I am sorry that things are going badly for you. But, asking people to give you a definitive answer for an abstract question is just a bit SILLY.
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A - thanks for trying to be a thread killer
B - your answer was no answer at all
C - saying that you believe in God, but everything I said was fallacious on makes you look silly. Really silly.

And if I wanted attention (which I don't) it certainly wouldn't be from you.

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putin

You're arguing conjecture and asking people to answer a question which is technically impossible to answer in an HONEST manner. Its all guess work.

First, you have to prove that there's a heaven with hard facts, and resources. Then, prove that there are "angels," which again, need hard facts, evidence, and resources. Then...prove that Angels were "tempted" to come here...which means, that you have to PROVE that something tempted them. Once you have proven something had tempted them, you then have to define what it is while providing PROOF, FACTS, and EVIDENCE.

After those things are done...then ask that question.

But, since you won't be able to prove any of the other points as fact, then, you must realize by now that your question really has no sound basis for existing at all, and should be tossed out as fallacious. --FALLACY--

-Yeah, I know God exists, and yes, I believe in Angels. I don't believe in religion though, and I certainly think certain sciences, mathematics, and theories involving evolution certainly have merit. There's also something to be said about "intelligent design" as well.

Nonetheless...if this is some sort of cry for attention, then, I am sorry that things are going badly for you. But, asking people to give you a definitive answer for an abstract question is just a bit SILLY.
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Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?!

Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't...wtf
 Quoting: Bentleysports




hardly

in the first place heaven was not what they'd earned after their acts in the first earth Age

those "angels" were ordained to enter flesh just as the rest of us have done

but they couldn't wait to be born of woman, grow up, and then begin having SEX, as none of us knew when the Father would see fit to place our souls within a flesh embryo in order that we come forth accordingly. His Election, as you may know, were held back and not ordained to enter flesh bodies until this final generation had come into being

and since there were/are no females in heaven, as we were all originally created in His image

when they saw the daughters of Adam, those in the company of satan elected to simply come down and defile said women

in effort to destroy Gods plan for your/their salvation after the fall

by fouling the bloodlines through which Christ was to come forth

same thing satan did in the garden with Adam and Eve

when he sewed his own seed into the earth by way of same

same purpose, same difference

all have been judged and sentenced to death of the soul for the part they've played in such
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It's our job.
We do as we are told.
Last night I spent a half-hour watching a 98-year-old lady sleeping.
It was very gratifying and peaceful.
But, we have a boss and we have a job, no gettin' out of that!
love.
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Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?!

Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't...wtf
 Quoting: Bentleysports


Each one of us got a gaurdian Angel asigned by God He is carefully taking notes of everything you do. So think how many people and how many Angels
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they weren't
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If HEAVEN Is So Good, Why Were Angels So Tempted To Come Here?
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.....because someone has to battle the demons who also come here.

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