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- User ID: 1547099 United States 12/03/2012 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I understand those events, there were two reasons the angels rebelled and fell 1) Satan was puffed up and thought he would rule heaven and 2) they were angry humans could procreate. Obviously God created the angels with free will ability to sin same as the rest of us and many did just that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145318 United States 12/03/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because they bought into the understanding that forcing man to obey the laws of God was the better choice to rein in this world. Were not the angels responsible in the order of this world. Is not Gods plan to allow man to have "FREEWILL"? Of course it was and its a shame more humans do not understand this. It truly is the the key to all of our spiritual cleansing! |
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Bentleysports (OP) User ID: 28560283 United States 12/03/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I understand those events, there were two reasons the angels rebelled and fell 1) Satan was puffed up and thought he would rule heaven and 2) they were angry humans could procreate. Quoting: - 1547099 Obviously God created the angels with free will ability to sin same as the rest of us and many did just that. Sex is good, but better than Heaven? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23433079 Canada 12/03/2012 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... The way I understand those events, there were two reasons the angels rebelled and fell 1) Satan was puffed up and thought he would rule heaven and 2) they were angry humans could procreate. Quoting: - 1547099 Obviously God created the angels with free will ability to sin same as the rest of us and many did just that. The reason as I understand it is that those angels didnt choose to come down here. They were forced too. You see angels were not created with free will. Satan was an angel before he fell. His name is lucifer. Do you know why he fell? When god created angels he made them "perfect" in his image, without free will to challenge him and his decisions. He made them totally complacent to HIS will. However God got sick of this and he created MAN, who he gave free will, the ability to think for ourselves, the ability to create life, plus many other things angels didnt have. Lucifer asked god why he cared more about us humans and why he gave humans all these things that angels didnt have rather than the "perfect" angels that he created first. God got angry at Lucifer when he asked this question because angels are not allowed to go against gods will. They are not allowed to question god and his decisions. However lucifer wasnt the only one who believed this. There were other angels who believed this too. God Threw lucifer and all the other angels who felt this way out of heaven as a punishment. Because of this Satan grew to HATE and DESPISE the human race and god. Satan swore that he would get revenge on god for casting him out, took his fellow fallen angels and created an army. He swore one day he would return to heaven and take down god, so to speak. So the angels didnt "give up heaven" for this, they had no other choice. As for the other angels, Im not too sure |
Bentleysports (OP) User ID: 28560283 United States 12/03/2012 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... The way I understand those events, there were two reasons the angels rebelled and fell 1) Satan was puffed up and thought he would rule heaven and 2) they were angry humans could procreate. Quoting: - 1547099 Obviously God created the angels with free will ability to sin same as the rest of us and many did just that. The reason as I understand it is that those angels didnt choose to come down here. They were forced too. You see angels were not created with free will. Satan was an angel before he fell. His name is lucifer. Do you know why he fell? When god created angels he made them "perfect" in his image, without free will to challenge him and his decisions. He made them totally complacent to HIS will. However God got sick of this and he created MAN, who he gave free will, the ability to think for ourselves, the ability to create life, plus many other things angels didnt have. Lucifer asked god why he cared more about us humans and why he gave humans all these things that angels didnt have rather than the "perfect" angels that he created first. God got angry at Lucifer when he asked this question because angels are not allowed to go against gods will. They are not allowed to question god and his decisions. However lucifer wasnt the only one who believed this. There were other angels who believed this too. God Threw lucifer and all the other angels who felt this way out of heaven as a punishment. Because of this Satan grew to HATE and DESPISE the human race and god. Satan swore that he would get revenge on god for casting him out, took his fellow fallen angels and created an army. He swore one day he would return to heaven and take down god, so to speak. So the angels didnt "give up heaven" for this, they had no other choice. As for the other angels, Im not too sure They must have had Some free will or why even ask or think those things? Thought is after all the beginning and end of great and wonderful things. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28970751 Australia 12/03/2012 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... Because visiting a big city, as a tourist, with an unlimited budget is fun, the only downfall of our system is it is held up on the backs of our workers, some paid fairly, some paid unfairly from the third world. The evilness of the system is the exploitation involved in the labour market. Take the evil out of the system, and thats what heaven will be like. Fresh, vibrant, fun, yet a haven. Its like that saying.... the devil is in the details, God is in the whole design. |
Bentleysports (OP) User ID: 28560283 United States 12/03/2012 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... Because visiting a big city, as a tourist, with an unlimited budget is fun, the only downfall of our system is it is held up on the backs of our workers, some paid fairly, some paid unfairly from the third world. The evilness of the system is the exploitation involved in the labour market. Take the evil out of the system, and thats what heaven will be like. Fresh, vibrant, fun, yet a haven. Its like that saying.... the devil is in the details, God is in the whole design. The details are what we live for... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1711362 Canada 12/03/2012 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... Because here, as humans, they get free will. In heaven there is no free will so you're stuck with the big daddy for eternity. Who would want that? Not me! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28912198 Denmark 12/03/2012 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... Because here, as humans, they get free will. In heaven there is no free will so you're stuck with the big daddy for eternity. Who would want that? Not me! Im not sure they can procreate in heaven.. Fysical experiance Must have thousands of kids up there? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28970751 Australia 12/03/2012 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... Because visiting a big city, as a tourist, with an unlimited budget is fun, the only downfall of our system is it is held up on the backs of our workers, some paid fairly, some paid unfairly from the third world. The evilness of the system is the exploitation involved in the labour market. Take the evil out of the system, and thats what heaven will be like. Fresh, vibrant, fun, yet a haven. Its like that saying.... the devil is in the details, God is in the whole design. The details are what we live for... The details will still be there, the atmosphere will still be set, but the evilness will be neutralised. I don't know how, maybe by magic, maybe by miracle......but the magic atmosphere will still be there. Walk along a beach, under the moon, with a soft tropical breeze touching your skin, with that feeling of magic in the air. Alone, but amongst humanity. That peaceful feeling, that anticipation kissing your soul, thats what I imagine heaven to be like, and that's the humanity in heaven that the Angels favoured. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28795932 United States 12/03/2012 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way I understand those events, there were two reasons the angels rebelled and fell 1) Satan was puffed up and thought he would rule heaven and 2) they were angry humans could procreate. Quoting: - 1547099 Obviously God created the angels with free will ability to sin same as the rest of us and many did just that. Sex is good, but better than Heaven? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1711362 Canada 12/03/2012 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... The way I understand those events, there were two reasons the angels rebelled and fell 1) Satan was puffed up and thought he would rule heaven and 2) they were angry humans could procreate. Quoting: - 1547099 Obviously God created the angels with free will ability to sin same as the rest of us and many did just that. The reason as I understand it is that those angels didnt choose to come down here. They were forced too. You see angels were not created with free will. Satan was an angel before he fell. His name is lucifer. Do you know why he fell? When god created angels he made them "perfect" in his image, without free will to challenge him and his decisions. He made them totally complacent to HIS will. However God got sick of this and he created MAN, who he gave free will, the ability to think for ourselves, the ability to create life, plus many other things angels didnt have. Lucifer asked god why he cared more about us humans and why he gave humans all these things that angels didnt have rather than the "perfect" angels that he created first. God got angry at Lucifer when he asked this question because angels are not allowed to go against gods will. They are not allowed to question god and his decisions. However lucifer wasnt the only one who believed this. There were other angels who believed this too. God Threw lucifer and all the other angels who felt this way out of heaven as a punishment. Because of this Satan grew to HATE and DESPISE the human race and god. Satan swore that he would get revenge on god for casting him out, took his fellow fallen angels and created an army. He swore one day he would return to heaven and take down god, so to speak. So the angels didnt "give up heaven" for this, they had no other choice. As for the other angels, Im not too sure They must have had Some free will or why even ask or think those things? Thought is after all the beginning and end of great and wonderful things. The answer to this question lies in Islamic and arabian mythology which is less corrupted than the christian one. In islamic mythology the guy who asked this question, meaning lucifer, is not an angel but a Djinn. He possess free will just like humans do and due to his beautiful singing voice and music playing abilities, he was raised high up in the heaven to play music there. Thats where he found out about god's plan to create the human race and after god paid attention to Adam 24/7, Lucifer the Djinn got jealous and unlike the angels, did not bow down to the human adam. Thats why he conspired against man and god. Angels never rebelled cause they dont possess free will at all but almost half of the Djinn population took Lucifer's side and war broke out between them and the angels. Djinn were defeated. They live in their own dimension and Lucifer has taken an oath to take as many as he can into the hell fire with him. |
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Lorax User ID: 28841910 United States 12/03/2012 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If HEAVEN Is So Good, Why Were Angels So Tempted To Come Here?" That's a easy one. Most don't go to heaven. The Ten Commandments - There is a lot of people that don't make it past this. Thou shall not kill - war is not a exception. Adultery - I think you get the point. If you think about who is in heaven, it's got to be boring as hell! Lorax |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19976094 United States 12/03/2012 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians spend there lives trying to get to Heaven, but some Angels gave it up for this?!?! Quoting: Bentleysports Can someone give a GOOD reason for that? I can't... Only thing i can come up with is beer and sex. Yep, that's about it. Beer & chicks [link to www.youtube.com] Question is, why would angels be sexually attracted to human females? That's like me being attracted to a monkey. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28872536 United States 12/03/2012 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | better question might be, if this god fellow is so great and powerful, why does he need to enslave humanity for gold and jewels? seems like he would just whip some up in the lab or something..... Do any of you even read the damned book of genocides? |