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Sugar is a poison?! I'm starting to agree...I'll tell you why

 
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Sugar is a poison?! I'm starting to agree...I'll tell you why
I'm not going to link to any articles or YouTube videos because there are plenty out there. But I will share my personal experience coming to the conclusion that they are on to something here.

So I have always been in incredible shape. Extremely fit and ripped. But I do have a sweet tooth. Always have.

When I was 20 years old I found out I had non-hodgkin's lymphoma.

Before this I had never been sick a day in my life. After finishing treatments I moved back out on my own (needed help from parents while going thru chemo and radiation). And after beating cancer I would catch EVERY single cold or flu that anyone within 15feet of me had.

And it would take me so much longer to get over even just a little cold. I'm talking 9 days +.

Also about this time I start having severe bowel problems. First they tell me it was a byproduct of the cancer treatments. Then they said it dairy. Then they said it was gluten. Then they said it was chrones. Then they said it was ulcerative colitis. Then they said it was extreme irritable bowel syndrome.

So for 15 years I'm living with this crap. No pun intended. I was going thirteen times per day.

I was getting colds and flu at the drop of a hat. I had tonsil stones that were disgusting.

So now I have my baby son. I'm still very fit and muscular (despite the bowel problems). And his poop is not turning to solid after starting solid foods.

Pediatrician runs a bunch of tests and finds out he has a sugar intolerance. My wife says "I wonder if that is your problem too...you do have a bad sweet tooth".

So I stop instantly any and all sugar including starchy stuff like rice.

And instantly...I mean the VERY next morning, ALL of my problems were solved.

I no longer had any bowel problems. If I caught a cold...a good night's sleep fixed it all up. That's if I even I caught it in the first place now.

My tonsil stones have vanished. My "fuzzy" tongue is gone.

Not to mention that little extra 4 vanity pounds around the waste are gone.

My mind is clearer than it has been in YEARS. I have way more energy.

My baby son's poop is normal.

Sorry for the long post...but there is no doubt in my mind that sugar has been the culprit for some pretty serious health issues for me.

And the timing makes sense....

At 18 years old I move out of my parents' house where I didn't get much sugar. At age 20 I get cancer and there is no history in my family. I move back in and get healthy again. Move back out and start having all the previously mentioned health problems.

15 years of suffering and literally in one day I am back to normal.

All by just cutting out the sugar.

I hope someone else gets help / relief from this.
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bump only because i hope I help that one person out there who is as miserable as I was.
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have you seen this about what chemo does to the liver?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This in turn affects digestion. The liver eventually heals itself. If not still bombarded with meds.
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Refined sugar isn't good for you. Natural sugars are better.
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My sister has a corn allergy OP.

Try finding ANYTHING in the grocery store that doesn't have some form of corn, especially High Fructose Corn Syrup...didn't realize JUST HOW MANY THINGS contain it. It is in probably at least 75% of all prepackaged or canned foods in one form or another.
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Thanks for the heads-up OP, I will make the attempt to cut out sugar. My people have been suffering with diabetes for a long time, mostly because the government issued food is mostly starch, such as a lot of pasta, and corn products.
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OP, what do you eat instead?

I'm trying to cut out sugar, gluten, dairy and GMOs but I literally can't find anything to eat, so I eat some shit foods.
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No pic, no stick! Link or stink?
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What exactly is a "sugar" intolerance?

If it is from sugar, then it would seem things such as rice or pasta (non gluten) would still be ok. Otherwise you'd have intolerance to carbs, which doesn't seem possible.
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Yes it is poison. We were never meant to eat sugar in the quantities we do. It is very toxic at the amount today's diet has. Sugar is cancer's favorite food and needs it to thrive & spread. Viruses & bacteria also love it as it causes wear & tear on the immune system & organs, making them work harder.
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You need to get a new pediatrician.


Your baby does not have a 'Sugar Intolerance" he has a yeast infection that was caused by the antibiotic that they typically shoot them up with at birth that kills off the good gut bacteria that keep yeast bacteria in check.


You have the same problem from the Chemo.
Your symptoms read like a checklist for a systemic Candida Albicans infection, that research shows 80% of the population has, and is not aware of.

Yeast feed off of sugar and as they consume the sugar they release 75 different toxins.

The bad news is that it takes dedication and time to fight it. The good news is that it doesn't cost much.

This site is a great place to start. They aren't trying to sell anything all the information is free.

You didn't mention the persistent athletes foot, or the rash that you get with the little blisters that itch like crazy or the eye floaters , but I bet they are there also right?

[link to www.candida-albicans-cure.com]

Pleas take this seriously and spend 15 minutes reading.
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OP, what do you eat instead?

I'm trying to cut out sugar, gluten, dairy and GMOs but I literally can't find anything to eat, so I eat some shit foods.
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For breakfast I eat eggs with onion and cheese with turkey bacon or some other kind of sausage. And sometimes hashes potatoes.

I'll still eat a banana and REAL oatmeal (not the strawberries and cream kind) about 3 days per week. They don't seem to hurt me. But my favorite of pineapple is a no no.

I still have coffee but it has to be black. That French vanilla creamer has a lot of sugar in it. Especially for how much coffee I drink.

For lunch I usually have turkey and Swiss on wheat with lettuce tomato onion and peppercinis. And I'll eat jalapeño chips about half the time.

For dinner I'll eat grilled chicken or grilled steak on salad. Salad has onion carrots( small amount of carrot), avocado, cherry tomatoes, walnuts croutons and just a few crasins.

Or for dinner I'll have tacos with everything on it. The flour tortilla doesn't seem to hurt.

Or salmon with horseradish and steamed/grilled veggies and sometimes mashed potatoes ( not too much of those)

Basically now I eat normal like I did when I was kid living in my parents house. Eat non processed foods (most have lots of sugar) and I quit eating the cookie or half a twix after dinner.

But a huge culprit that I didn't realize was rice. And I ate rice quite a bit.
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You need to get a new pediatrician.


Your baby does not have a 'Sugar Intolerance" he has a yeast infection that was caused by the antibiotic that they typically shoot them up with at birth that kills off the good gut bacteria that keep yeast bacteria in check.


You have the same problem from the Chemo.
Your symptoms read like a checklist for a systemic Candida Albicans infection, that research shows 80% of the population has, and is not aware of.

Yeast feed off of sugar and as they consume the sugar they release 75 different toxins.

The bad news is that it takes dedication and time to fight it. The good news is that it doesn't cost much.

This site is a great place to start. They aren't trying to sell anything all the information is free.

You didn't mention the persistent athletes foot, or the rash that you get with the little blisters that itch like crazy or the eye floaters , but I bet they are there also right?

[link to www.candida-albicans-cure.com]

Pleas take this seriously and spend 15 minutes reading.
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No athletes foot or rash or blisters. But I do have an eye floater that I have had since I was 7 years old.

It could be what you are talking about. But with my current diet I feel perfectly normal like I used to before I started eating too much sugar when I left my parents house 20 years ago.

Reading through your linked info seems like someone can really get caught up with trying to get rid of that stuff. Maybe even a little bit of "chasing the dragon" so to speak.

But I wouldn't be surprised if that is what it is. I did have a couple of bouts with thrush and some fungal infections during the cancer treatments.

But thank you the same.
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have you seen this about what chemo does to the liver?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This in turn affects digestion. The liver eventually heals itself. If not still bombarded with meds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1547099


That's why they said it was a byproduct of the cancer treatments. But now that it is perfectly normal literally within 1 day of cutting out sugar and rice..I'm hoping it is healed. Since every other single measure of health (and I have to have a lot periodically for cancer check ups) check fine. Liver function is good. Kidneys are good. CBC is good. Pet scan 3yers ago was good. Only thing off was a1c on last blood work. And that was because I was eating too much sugar. It was .1 above normal. So not bad, easily taken care of now that I have cut out sugar.
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I have had weight problems from 4th grade on.

Then came the stomach problems in Jr. High and on. always worrying if i'm gonna have stomach problems and need to shit, but always needing to shit is the problem!

Every day situations become unbearable... sitting in a class room then later in conference rooms.

10 years ago I got really healthy. Exercised, Triathlon training... and I ate really good. I had less stomach problems. But i ate less in general and was on a strict daily routine so things seemed ALMOST normal.

Gained all the weight back. Since I have so many injuries and I'm older I realized I couldn't burn the fat off like I did before.

Ditched the carbs and sugars. It was rough the first couple weeks. I went 9 months w/o sugar. Never felt better in my life. Weight comes off easy compared to what I had to do in the past.

No stomach issues. If i have to go it's usually 10-60 mins after I eat. That's it. Don't even worry about it anymore. (this alone is why I wont eat sugar/carbs again) but also..

My mind is clearer. I can focus better. I'm putting muscle on and don't think I'm losing any muscle. I sleep better. I'm more hornier then at any point in my life. I could have a wife, gf and a mistress and satisfy them all no problem.

I tested the carb waters a month ago... to see what would happen.

Felt hung over the next day, felt like i had lead in my belly, got lazy and lethargic.. and of course... full of gas and shitting all day.

Wish I'd known sugar was bad back in the early 90's. My whole life would of been different.
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i had a bad tooth. Hurt like a sonofabitch every time I ate anything sweet. So I quit eating or drinking anything wight sugar in it and was intending to go to the dentist to get it fixed or pulled or whatever.

But it healed on its own after a couple of weeks without sugar.

I now eat sugar by the ton again.

Yeah. Sugar is poison. But... it gets me through the day.
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I have had weight problems from 4th grade on.

Then came the stomach problems in Jr. High and on. always worrying if i'm gonna have stomach problems and need to shit, but always needing to shit is the problem!

Every day situations become unbearable... sitting in a class room then later in conference rooms.

10 years ago I got really healthy. Exercised, Triathlon training... and I ate really good. I had less stomach problems. But i ate less in general and was on a strict daily routine so things seemed ALMOST normal.

Gained all the weight back. Since I have so many injuries and I'm older I realized I couldn't burn the fat off like I did before.

Ditched the carbs and sugars. It was rough the first couple weeks. I went 9 months w/o sugar. Never felt better in my life. Weight comes off easy compared to what I had to do in the past.

No stomach issues. If i have to go it's usually 10-60 mins after I eat. That's it. Don't even worry about it anymore. (this alone is why I wont eat sugar/carbs again) but also..

My mind is clearer. I can focus better. I'm putting muscle on and don't think I'm losing any muscle. I sleep better. I'm more hornier then at any point in my life. I could have a wife, gf and a mistress and satisfy them all no problem.

I tested the carb waters a month ago... to see what would happen.

Felt hung over the next day, felt like i had lead in my belly, got lazy and lethargic.. and of course... full of gas and shitting all day.

Wish I'd known sugar was bad back in the early 90's. My whole life would of been different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28812431


You said it perfectly. If I eat any sugar I actually feel hung over in the morning. I too was going to bathroom sometimes up to 13 times in a day when it was real bad.

I really do think that it is some bad stuff and that we all eat too much of it. An looking at ingredients that high fructose stuff is packed into everything!!
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Thanks for the heads-up OP, I will make the attempt to cut out sugar. My people have been suffering with diabetes for a long time, mostly because the government issued food is mostly starch, such as a lot of pasta, and corn products.
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What gov. issued food? I think youre lying. Food stamps is what gov issues for you to buy food, its your choice as to what you buy.

Last Edited by M*walk on 12/03/2012 11:42 AM
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Refined sugar isn't good for you. Natural sugars are better.
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How differnt is the actual stucture of natural sugar compared to that of heavily refined and processed sugar.

What about the structure of GMO plant derived sugars.
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Refined sugar isn't good for you. Natural sugars are better.
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How differnt is the actual stucture of natural sugar compared to that of heavily refined and processed sugar.

What about the structure of GMO plant derived sugars.
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Good question. I can't tell if the problem is the refined sugar or natural or both since I cut it all out. Except.... after I cut it all out I was still having huge problems until I cut out rice as well. That was the last key for me. If that provides any insight. And I was eating rice prolly 2-3 times per week for lunch. Love me some grilled chicken and rice.
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Refined sugar isn't good for you. Natural sugars are better.
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How differnt is the actual stucture of natural sugar compared to that of heavily refined and processed sugar.

What about the structure of GMO plant derived sugars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28708565


Good question. I can't tell if the problem is the refined sugar or natural or both since I cut it all out. Except.... after I cut it all out I was still having huge problems until I cut out rice as well. That was the last key for me. If that provides any insight. And I was eating rice prolly 2-3 times per week for lunch. Love me some grilled chicken and rice.
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Could always replace the white rice I presume you ate (empty carbs), with wild whole grain rice or even better, quinoa. There are alternatives that exist. But the white rices, and flours for that matter (mainly due to bleaching), are no good for sure.

I am really gonna try and make an effort to cut out the sugar in my diet too......it's hard though cause we often have so many cookies and cakes in this house that it is tempting and hard to resist at times, especially lately. I need to start to making my own baked goods with natural, real sugars and sweeteners to replace all that, or at least severely limit my intake otherwise. It's gonna be a challenge.....but really do want to for my health.

Last Edited by ajk on 12/20/2012 07:55 PM
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congrats OP, but your diet is still pretty shitty.

you mentioned craisins on your salad, craisins have added sugar. so thats totally incongruent with the statement you made.

dont eat wheat. wheat is absolute shit.

[link to news.discovery.com]

i eat
hormone, antibiotic free chicken breast
spinach
broccoli/broccolette
quinoa
brown rice
stevia ("better stevia" is the best brand, get the drops, replaces sugar so well. no side effects for me, not unhealthy)
almonds
cashews
kale
any green vegetable for that matter, most veggies are good
i dont eat any fruit because any kind of sugar/starch makes me fart, even fruit. i need to figure that out personally.
vegan protein powders or meal replacement shakes like vega one. (great but overpriced, garden of life raw meal and now tru-food vegan are alternatives.)

also i am going to start getting into tonics, adaptogens, herbs etc.

stuff like reishi mushroom is amazing.

here is a good recipe for an all around magical tonic
Chaga mushroom, reishi mushroom, he shou wu, Himalayan crystal salt, mucuna pruriens, goji extract, freeze dried acai.

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