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Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being.

It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is.

The only way it could understand would be to slowly pass the apple through it's plane of existance, and let it circle around it section by section, until it had seen every part of the apple.

It would probably get frustrated at first, wondering why it you wanted it to constantly circle the same red wall over and over. Sometimes the journey was short...other times it was long...and at the end the big red wall became a very small brown wall that eventually disappeared.

But then, hopefully...like that wax on wax off scene from the karate kid...it would come to a sudden epiphany and understanding of the higher meaning...placing all it had experienced into one greater comprehension of truth.

Suddenly, In it's minds eye, it could understand the apple!

Of course it couldn't explain it to others in the 2d realm...there was no way too. They would have to experience the epiphany for themselves...by walking the same journey and seeing each piece until they could put it all together. Some never did, even after seeing all the parts. They just never got the epiphany.

Now consider the 3d world you live in. Consider the paths you walk and the decisions you make. Consider your lifes journey and the things and people you encounter along the way.

It may not all make sense to you now...but in time you may see. And perhaps, just perhaps, God is trying to show you something.

But also remember that just like the apple passing through the plane...there is space above and space below.

Listen to that which comes from above. Do not follow the paths and leadings of that which comes from below.

In time, you will understand.
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Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being.

It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is.

The only way it could understand would be to slowly pass the apple through it's plane of existance, and let it circle around it section by section, until it had seen every part of the apple.

It would probably get frustrated at first, wondering why it you wanted it to constantly circle the same red wall over and over. Sometimes the journey was short...other times it was long...and at the end the big red wall became a very small brown wall that eventually disappeared.

But then, hopefully...like that wax on wax off scene from the karate kid...it would come to a sudden epiphany and understanding of the higher meaning...placing all it had experienced into one greater comprehension of truth.

Suddenly, In it's minds eye, it could understand the apple!

Of course it couldn't explain it to others in the 2d realm...there was no way too. They would have to experience the epiphany for themselves...by walking the same journey and seeing each piece until they could put it all together. Some never did, even after seeing all the parts. They just never got the epiphany.

Now consider the 3d world you live in. Consider the paths you walk and the decisions you make. Consider your lifes journey and the things and people you encounter along the way.

It may not all make sense to you now...but in time you may see. And perhaps, just perhaps, God is trying to show you something.

But also remember that just like the apple passing through the plane...there is space above and space below.

Listen to that which comes from above. Do not follow the paths and leadings of that which comes from below.

In time, you will understand.
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you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free
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Can you explain what it's like in a higher plane? the 4th or even the 5th?
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Thank you for posting this! I figure when the 'veil' is taken away, it will something kind of like what happened in this video...

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Op you seem to have deep understanding of the physical and spiritual planes.

I tell people all the time "nothing is real, everything is possible" because I have figured out that we have the ability in the 4th dimensional plane to shape our reality, just like in our dreams.

Let me explain what dreams really are. When entering dreams, we sort of "astral walk". Our consciousness appears for a short period of time in the higher plane and gives us a grasp of what it's like.

For those who have the ability of lucid dreaming: Lucid Dreaming IS a foreshadowing of Reality shaping.
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Op you seem to have deep understanding of the physical and spiritual planes.

I tell people all the time "nothing is real, everything is possible" because I have figured out that we have the ability in the 4th dimensional plane to shape our reality, just like in our dreams.

Let me explain what dreams really are. When entering dreams, we sort of "astral walk". Our consciousness appears for a short period of time in the higher plane and gives us a grasp of what it's like.

For those who have the ability of lucid dreaming: Lucid Dreaming IS a foreshadowing of Reality shaping.
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for those who had glimpses of etheric reality (i.e. OBE as opposed to lucid dreaming) in full consciousness, the illusion of 3d plane as being all there is to reality is forever shattered.
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Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being.

It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is.

The only way it could understand would be to slowly pass the apple through it's plane of existance, and let it circle around it section by section, until it had seen every part of the apple.

It would probably get frustrated at first, wondering why it you wanted it to constantly circle the same red wall over and over. Sometimes the journey was short...other times it was long...and at the end the big red wall became a very small brown wall that eventually disappeared.

But then, hopefully...like that wax on wax off scene from the karate kid...it would come to a sudden epiphany and understanding of the higher meaning...placing all it had experienced into one greater comprehension of truth.

Suddenly, In it's minds eye, it could understand the apple!

Of course it couldn't explain it to others in the 2d realm...there was no way too. They would have to experience the epiphany for themselves...by walking the same journey and seeing each piece until they could put it all together. Some never did, even after seeing all the parts. They just never got the epiphany.

Now consider the 3d world you live in. Consider the paths you walk and the decisions you make. Consider your lifes journey and the things and people you encounter along the way.

It may not all make sense to you now...but in time you may see. And perhaps, just perhaps, God is trying to show you something.

But also remember that just like the apple passing through the plane...there is space above and space below.

Listen to that which comes from above. Do not follow the paths and leadings of that which comes from below.

In time, you will understand.
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nice to see you. may your understanding of upper planes of reality help others to get there for the first time, or to realize they already are there with one foot

hf
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Op you seem to have deep understanding of the physical and spiritual planes.

I tell people all the time "nothing is real, everything is possible" because I have figured out that we have the ability in the 4th dimensional plane to shape our reality, just like in our dreams.

Let me explain what dreams really are. When entering dreams, we sort of "astral walk". Our consciousness appears for a short period of time in the higher plane and gives us a grasp of what it's like.

For those who have the ability of lucid dreaming: Lucid Dreaming IS a foreshadowing of Reality shaping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28979819


for those who had glimpses of etheric reality (i.e. OBE as opposed to lucid dreaming) in full consciousness, the illusion of 3d plane as being all there is to reality is forever shattered.
 Quoting: andreidita



Really? Is it that eye opening?


Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality?
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Op you seem to have deep understanding of the physical and spiritual planes.

I tell people all the time "nothing is real, everything is possible" because I have figured out that we have the ability in the 4th dimensional plane to shape our reality, just like in our dreams.

Let me explain what dreams really are. When entering dreams, we sort of "astral walk". Our consciousness appears for a short period of time in the higher plane and gives us a grasp of what it's like.

For those who have the ability of lucid dreaming: Lucid Dreaming IS a foreshadowing of Reality shaping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28979819


for those who had glimpses of etheric reality (i.e. OBE as opposed to lucid dreaming) in full consciousness, the illusion of 3d plane as being all there is to reality is forever shattered.
 Quoting: andreidita



Really? Is it that eye opening?


Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality?
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Please answer me

I need answers

this is fucking important to me
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This will be the beginning
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Really? Is it that eye opening?


Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality?
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i see human beings as beings spread on a band from 3d density (bodily/material awareness) to pure spirit (7th could be a tentative labeling)...

the struggle is to fully ground consciousness in upper levels of one self.

we start with short glimpses of other levels...
then we ground them more and more...
and yes, the experience of etheric body consciousness and thus perceiving what we call physical reality in the etheric/energetic body i find it to have a revelatory effect in moving one's consciousness upwards
i had 2 short previews of that
and they were uncalled
they just happened
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Really? Is it that eye opening?


Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality?
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i see human beings as beings spread on a band from 3d density (bodily/material awareness) to pure spirit (7th could be a tentative labeling)...

the struggle is to fully ground consciousness in upper levels of one self.

we start with short glimpses of other levels...
then we ground them more and more...
and yes, the experience of etheric body consciousness and thus perceiving what we call physical reality in the etheric/energetic body i find it to have a revelatory effect in moving one's consciousness upwards
i had 2 short previews of that
and they were uncalled
they just happened
 Quoting: andreidita


Thanks. I agree, we only have short glimpes and we get very little information.


Can you explain in detail those 2 short previews? Were they in sleep or just happened during daytime?
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^ I want to ascend into higher planes, to escape this shitty matrix illusion where I lost all my beloved ones.

I want to know how to adjust my vibratory rate. I read a lot about tesla and schuman resonance. I know that it's realy. I just need to know how to adjust it or make it vibrate faster.


I feel that I have the capacity to do. But some puzzle pieces are missing.

I don't care if some people think I'm crazy. I pity them. They don't know.
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Really? Is it that eye opening?


Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality?
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Please answer me

I need answers

this is fucking important to me


unfortunately i did not have time to explore more thoroughly the nature of the etheric make-up of our reality...
one thing i noticed though is that upon the etheric sky...
the most noticeable object is a swastika like object...
that is what that ancient symbol referred to...
the center of the world...
which is probably our galactic center...
which in physical 3d reality is perceived as a black hole...
but in etheric vision (which is of electro magnetical nature) it can be perceived directly...
and this is of course logical if you think of how magnets work...
that is they have a radius of influence and all that is within that radius is attracted...
and we are clearly in the radius of our galactic centre...
and that fact can be perceived (felt) at etheric levels
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^ I want to ascend into higher planes, to escape this shitty matrix illusion where I lost all my beloved ones.

I want to know how to adjust my vibratory rate. I read a lot about tesla and schuman resonance. I know that it's realy. I just need to know how to adjust it or make it vibrate faster.


I feel that I have the capacity to do. But some puzzle pieces are missing.

I don't care if some people think I'm crazy. I pity them. They don't know.
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if you stop pulling the 11th finger you will get a good start
And allso listen to your heart
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Really? Is it that eye opening?


Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28979819


Please answer me

I need answers

this is fucking important to me
 Quoting: andreidita


unfortunately i did not have time to explore more thoroughly the nature of the etheric make-up of our reality...
one thing i noticed though is that upon the etheric sky...
the most noticeable object is a swastika like object...
that is what that ancient symbol referred to...
the center of the world...
which is probably our galactic center...
which in physical 3d reality is perceived as a black hole...
but in etheric vision (which is of electro magnetical nature) it can be perceived directly...
and this is of course logical if you think of how magnets work...
that is they have a radius of influence and all that is within that radius is attracted...
and we are clearly in the radius of our galactic centre...
and that fact can be perceived (felt) at etheric levels


This is interesting...

The swastika had a deep meaning for high evolved ancient civilization here on earth who had mastered anti-gravity and electro magnetical technology.

So they knew about ascending into etherical reality?

Sounds like some sort of source to me..
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:whatdoyousee?:
What happened to my beloved GLP????.
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ya lost me at two dimensional beingbanana2
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This is interesting...

The swastika had a deep meaning for high evolved ancient civilization here on earth who had mastered anti-gravity and electro magnetical technology.

So they knew about ascending into etherical reality?

Sounds like some sort of source to me..
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for sure, otherwise how could they have had knowledge of anti-gravity and electro magnetical technology?
what surprises me is that there are a lot of books about lucid dreaming and astral projection, and still there are no consensual facts about those so called upper planes...
and this makes me question the validity of those experiences...
which have to be a mixture of real perception and distorted illusory/subconscious influenced perception, without enough lucidity on the part of the individuals in question to separate them...

for example...there is a basic fact that i had to experience and which is generally not mentioned in literature...

during my life i had 4 conscious experiences of etheric body departing from the physical one...
in the first one i was still centered in the rational mind...
and the result was a mixture of fear with a desire to verify by opening the physical eyes...

the other three experiences happened after i had already centered my consciousness in the heart center...
and all three of them were triggered by the activation of the heart center...
when this happens there is no fear...
and also the movement of the etheric body is achieved from the center of the chest...
in books i guess that is what is referred as 'intention'...

so, activation of one's heart center i found through experience to be a necessary step...
and it is never mentioned in those books...

i will get back later i have to go buy some bread :)
i am here for sharing freely of what i experienced and understood...
this i find to be one of the essential points of living...
that's why i also have my email public...
i'll get back a little later

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Aren't we more than just 3 demential? Isn't 3D just x,y,z coordinates? You have to also add time and temperature?
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Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being.

It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is.
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Sure, it can't understand more than 2 dimensions because it lives in 2 dimensions. But you have no problem understanding more than 3 dimensions, even though you live in 3 dimensions.

Ok dude.
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Imagine trying to explain an apple to a two dimensional being.

It wouldn't have a clue as to what you are describing. It has no concept of 3 dimensions. It doesn't know what "up" is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14093935


Sure, it can't understand more than 2 dimensions because it lives in 2 dimensions. But you have no problem understanding more than 3 dimensions, even though you live in 3 dimensions.

Ok dude.
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Do we? We don't understand time, yet.

Time isn't linear, like everyone suggests. Time is one point. That is what's all about.

Now, try to imagine time as point. Past, present, future at one point. It's impossible to imagine.

Our bodies are at too lower vibratory rates to comprehend the real concept of time as point.
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For those who want to know where OP got the idea from, read Flatland e-book here: [link to manybooks.net]
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Aren't we more than just 3 demential? Isn't 3D just x,y,z coordinates? You have to also add time and temperature?
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yes, we live in 4 dimmensions: x,z,y(3D space) plus time.
temperature is energy potential of particular object or system, thus temperature IS energy that we can understand this way.
einstein's famous equation is E=m.c2, which means EVERYTHING is energy in our 4D reality, some energy is in densier form (tangible fixed objects) other is less dense (electromagnetism => e.g. light)
i believe some individuals may have a glimpse of higher dimmensions, but i think it is impossible to understand more than 4D with our 3D brains floating through the fourth dimmension (time).
if i say i do understand 4D (which i don't :), it means that 'now', 'yesterday' or 'tommorow' are meaningless words ;)

hf
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Thankyou for your thread

I appreciate your golden nuggetshf
Yeshua/Christ Jesus/Esu Sananda/Christ Michael Aton/CM/ATON was Jesus Christ oversoul as he walked the earth,set up the Kingdom of Heaven within. To get to Father/Mother God is through your own Heart Portal, we have been gifted the HOly Spirit/HigherSelf as our guide.

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Love yourself, and your world will heal around you like the waves in the ocean. When ONe unites with the Holy Spirit/HigherSelf, it becomes your mate, you are inlove with the Divine within, then comes the relationship for he is the direct line to Father Source so you experience that connection, so then it becomes your rule of measure as to who knows the FAther, The kingdom is within...
The Path to the New World is guilt, shame, and regret free.

Dear Father Mother God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can (Me) and the wisdom to know the difference. I AM getting better everyday. Truly.......


God's dream is our Destiny...Light and Life. We can do it.
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Thanks hf
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Op you seem to have deep understanding of the physical and spiritual planes.

I tell people all the time "nothing is real, everything is possible" because I have figured out that we have the ability in the 4th dimensional plane to shape our reality, just like in our dreams.

Let me explain what dreams really are. When entering dreams, we sort of "astral walk". Our consciousness appears for a short period of time in the higher plane and gives us a grasp of what it's like.

For those who have the ability of lucid dreaming: Lucid Dreaming IS a foreshadowing of Reality shaping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28979819


for those who had glimpses of etheric reality (i.e. OBE as opposed to lucid dreaming) in full consciousness, the illusion of 3d plane as being all there is to reality is forever shattered.
 Quoting: andreidita



Really? Is it that eye opening?


Are you saying you already experienced etheric reality?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28979819


Please answer me

I need answers

this is fucking important to me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28979819


For me, yes... prayer with the will to look through the veil or lattice .... to the sighting of subatomic before my eyes!!!!!
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OP- Been watching Cosmos on Netflix? You pretty much plagiarized Carl Sagan for the first half of your idiotic post.
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For me, yes... prayer with the will to look through the veil or lattice .... to the sighting of subatomic before my eyes!!!!!
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what you describe here, i associate with an experience in which, after i read the book of revelations and another book and made certain clicks, it seems i reached such an elevated state of mind, that when i went to bed and closed my eyes, i saw a tiny dot on inner vision, that i could focus into, and go through it with my consciousness in a place with electric blue kind of spheres interconnected with many threads.
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Good posts, andreidita!

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