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I would like to get your take on this the most controversial scripture in the Bible. If you say that you believe the bible then you have to believe this.


1 John 3:6-9

New King James Version (NKJV)

6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

So please explain
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Many people are incapable of true comprehension. Scripture cited by itself oftentimes won't make sense because you have to understand either context, or its use as a foreshadow, typology, etc.

That's why the bible is so misunderstood by those too lazy to study.
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22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

... Luke 8:21 He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice.

... 17Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them. John 13

... Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
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Many people are incapable of true comprehension. Scripture cited by itself oftentimes won't make sense because you have to understand either context, or its use as a foreshadow, typology, etc.

That's why the bible is so misunderstood by those too lazy to study.
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In contexts this was spoken by John, one of the 12 apostils also known as the one who was most loved by Jesus. He was also one of the three who stayed by Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane and who accompanied him to His meeting with Moses Elijah and Abraham. He was also a recipient of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. He preached this as part of the gospel after the ascension of Jesus. It must also be considered in conjunction with wat Jesus said in

Matthew 7:21-26

New King James Version (NKJV)

I Never Knew You21

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
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22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

... Luke 8:21 He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice.

... 17Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them. John 13

... Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
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I just quoted these scripture to answer another post. Just to be clear are you saying that Christians real Christians live a sin free life?
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22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

... Luke 8:21 He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice.

... 17Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them. John 13

... Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I just quoted these scripture to answer another post. Just to be clear are you saying that Christians real Christians live a sin free life?
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You know the answer don´t you.


Jesus leads the Way, not one Christian.
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It's rather simple. Those who are awake (saved) can not sin. But most of those who think they are saved are really not, for it is much more than simply 'believing in jesus'. It's like this:

Everything is one:

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

So let's think about it this way, if your entire body is ONE, but for some reason you see your feet as separate from yourself, then you would not worry about your feet getting hurt, either by you or someone/something else. But, if you realize one day that those feet you have been seeing are actually a part of you, then it would be impossible to ignore any pain inflicted upon them, or to not take care of them as you would the rest of yourself.

It is about being born again, and all of the supposed christians who think you can just say something to make that happen are delusional.

Everything 'outside' of yourself is actually a part of yourself, and it takes being born again to have this truth realized, it cannot be realized through logic or any other human means. It is the light of God that brings this about, and some will receive the light and some will not. It is not a matter of choice.

Thank you.
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22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

... Luke 8:21 He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice.

... 17Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them. John 13

... Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I just quoted these scripture to answer another post. Just to be clear are you saying that Christians real Christians live a sin free life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


You know the answer don´t you.


Jesus leads the Way, not one Christian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Ok the answer lies in this wat do say


Jesus versus Satan
Jesus
-
John 13:34
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34 ‘A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
-
1. Love is patient.
2. Love is kind.
3. It does not envy.
4. It does not boast.
5. It is not proud.
6. It does not dishonour others.
7. It is not self-seeking.
8. It is not easily angered.
9. It keeps no record of wrongs.
10. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
11. It always protects.
12. Always trusts.
13. Always hopes.
14. Always perseveres.
15. Love never fails.
-
Satan
-
‘A new command I give you: hate one another. As I have hated you, so you must hate one another.
-
16. Hate is inpatient,
17. Hate is unkind.
18. It envies.
19. It boasts.
20. It is proud.
21. It dishonours others.
22. It is self-seeking.
23. It is easily angered.
24. It keeps record of wrongs.
25. Hate delights in evil and rejoices in the lie.
26. It always harm
27. Always distrusts.
28. Is always without hope.
29. Always destroys.
30. Hate always fails.
-
The choice is yours
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22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

... Luke 8:21 He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice.

... 17Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them. John 13

... Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I just quoted these scripture to answer another post. Just to be clear are you saying that Christians real Christians live a sin free life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


You know the answer don´t you.


Jesus leads the Way, not one Christian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Ok the answer lies in this wat do say


Jesus versus Satan
Jesus
-
John 13:34
-
34 ‘A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
-
1. Love is patient.
2. Love is kind.
3. It does not envy.
4. It does not boast.
5. It is not proud.
6. It does not dishonour others.
7. It is not self-seeking.
8. It is not easily angered.
9. It keeps no record of wrongs.
10. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
11. It always protects.
12. Always trusts.
13. Always hopes.
14. Always perseveres.
15. Love never fails.
-
Satan
-
‘A new command I give you: hate one another. As I have hated you, so you must hate one another.
-
16. Hate is inpatient,
17. Hate is unkind.
18. It envies.
19. It boasts.
20. It is proud.
21. It dishonours others.
22. It is self-seeking.
23. It is easily angered.
24. It keeps record of wrongs.
25. Hate delights in evil and rejoices in the lie.
26. It always harm
27. Always distrusts.
28. Is always without hope.
29. Always destroys.
30. Hate always fails.
-
The choice is yours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


Your problem with understanding Jesus´ teachings properly is twofold:

you are used to add
you are used to omit, cherry pick.

The cause: your ego is BIGGER than the one of Jesus. Until then ...
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I just quoted these scripture to answer another post. Just to be clear are you saying that Christians real Christians live a sin free life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


You know the answer don´t you.


Jesus leads the Way, not one Christian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Ok the answer lies in this wat do say


Jesus versus Satan
Jesus
-
John 13:34
-
34 ‘A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
-
1. Love is patient.
2. Love is kind.
3. It does not envy.
4. It does not boast.
5. It is not proud.
6. It does not dishonour others.
7. It is not self-seeking.
8. It is not easily angered.
9. It keeps no record of wrongs.
10. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
11. It always protects.
12. Always trusts.
13. Always hopes.
14. Always perseveres.
15. Love never fails.
-
Satan
-
‘A new command I give you: hate one another. As I have hated you, so you must hate one another.
-
16. Hate is inpatient,
17. Hate is unkind.
18. It envies.
19. It boasts.
20. It is proud.
21. It dishonours others.
22. It is self-seeking.
23. It is easily angered.
24. It keeps record of wrongs.
25. Hate delights in evil and rejoices in the lie.
26. It always harm
27. Always distrusts.
28. Is always without hope.
29. Always destroys.
30. Hate always fails.
-
The choice is yours
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


Your problem with understanding Jesus´ teachings properly is twofold:

you are used to add
you are used to omit, cherry pick.

The cause: your ego is BIGGER than the one of Jesus. Until then ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I find that when people are cornered by the truth they become judgemental, insulting and presumptuous. You have just scored 3 out of three
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See i got you speachless
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I would like to get your take on this the most controversial scripture in the Bible. If you say that you believe the bible then you have to believe this.


1 John 3:6-9

New King James Version (NKJV)

6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

So please explain
 Quoting: 777 28334809


"Whoever abides in Him does not sin"

The truth is, we do not abide in the Lord lest we be born again.

Most people do not understand what it means to be born again.

In this life, we call out to Christ to save us, then we (eventually) die.

When we are born again, we are born into righteousness, our Karma having been cleared. We may inhabit the body of a martyr, or a Saint, and after that we will inhabit the body of Christ, literally.

Our conciousness will be one with Christ as he lived(lives) and we will "take up the cross" and be crucified for the sins of Mankind.

And his seed will remain in him, and he cannots sin, because he has been born of God.
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I would like to get your take on this the most controversial scripture in the Bible. If you say that you believe the bible then you have to believe this.


1 John 3:6-9

New King James Version (NKJV)

6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

So please explain
 Quoting: 777 28334809


"Whoever abides in Him does not sin"

The truth is, we do not abide in the Lord lest we be born again.

Most people do not understand what it means to be born again.


In this life, we call out to Christ to save us, then we (eventually) die.

When we are born again, we are born into righteousness, our Karma having been cleared. We may inhabit the body of a martyr, or a Saint, and after that we will inhabit the body of Christ, literally.

Our conciousness will be one with Christ as he lived(lives) and we will "take up the cross" and be crucified for the sins of Mankind.

And his seed will remain in him, and he cannots sin, because he has been born of God.
 Quoting: Lada D


putin
Oi.. and you started so well then you had to get into the karma BS. We don’t inhabit God, He inhabits us trough his Holey Spirit making us Holey as He is Holey and no sin can stand on Holey ground. The key is to be baptised with the Holey Spirit (Gods Seed)
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
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It's rather simple. Those who are awake (saved) can not sin. But most of those who think they are saved are really not, for it is much more than simply 'believing in jesus'. It's like this:

Everything is one:

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

So let's think about it this way, if your entire body is ONE, but for some reason you see your feet as separate from yourself, then you would not worry about your feet getting hurt, either by you or someone/something else. But, if you realize one day that those feet you have been seeing are actually a part of you, then it would be impossible to ignore any pain inflicted upon them, or to not take care of them as you would the rest of yourself.

It is about being born again, and all of the supposed christians who think you can just say something to make that happen are delusional.

Everything 'outside' of yourself is actually a part of yourself, and it takes being born again to have this truth realized, it cannot be realized through logic or any other human means. It is the light of God that brings this about, and some will receive the light and some will not. It is not a matter of choice.

Thank you.
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amen to this,but i really think the op has made a good point,

do you feel cleansed and forgiven?
are you free of sin and demons?

i dont know about me...if i would had to guess i would say i am still accompanied by devils and demons often.
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
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You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
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It's rather simple. Those who are awake (saved) can not sin. But most of those who think they are saved are really not, for it is much more than simply 'believing in jesus'. It's like this:

Everything is one:

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

So let's think about it this way, if your entire body is ONE, but for some reason you see your feet as separate from yourself, then you would not worry about your feet getting hurt, either by you or someone/something else. But, if you realize one day that those feet you have been seeing are actually a part of you, then it would be impossible to ignore any pain inflicted upon them, or to not take care of them as you would the rest of yourself.

It is about being born again, and all of the supposed christians who think you can just say something to make that happen are delusional.

Everything 'outside' of yourself is actually a part of yourself, and it takes being born again to have this truth realized, it cannot be realized through logic or any other human means. It is the light of God that brings this about, and some will receive the light and some will not. It is not a matter of choice.

Thank you.
 Quoting: I am he that is I 7373994


amen to this,but i really think the op has made a good point,

do you feel cleansed and forgiven?
are you free of sin and demons?

i dont know about me...if i would had to guess i would say i am still accompanied by devils and demons often.
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so i would say i am not really born of spirit as a new being as God wants us...

i still reside with my fleshly desires and they are driving me straight to hells gate....
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


So if he said this in Chapter 1 why then did he contradict himself in chapter 3 of the same book? The answer is that he was explaining that we are all in need of salvation and if we say we are not then we are lying. But when we receive His salvation and the Holey Spirit then we are without sin.
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Oi.. and you started so well then you had to get into the karma BS. We don’t inhabit God, He inhabits us trough his Holey Spirit making us Holey as He is Holey and no sin can stand on Holey ground. The key is to be baptised with the Holey Spirit (Gods Seed)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


And how many Christians do you know who are Holy?

Answer: Zero. Christians continue to sin constantly. Many of them worse, because they become vain in their assumed righteousness, haughty, hypocritical.

You do not call out to Christ and become immediately holy or cleansed or any other such thing. Not in this life. Many will try, and that's great, they will reach their destination in Christ faster.

The rest will need to continue to reincarnate upwards, towards living the life of Christ, which they are assured from the Holy spirit, who heard their call for salvation.

Those who don't turn to Christ will continue to incarnate downwards, into more and greater degeneration.
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
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yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
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Oi.. and you started so well then you had to get into the karma BS. We don’t inhabit God, He inhabits us trough his Holey Spirit making us Holey as He is Holey and no sin can stand on Holey ground. The key is to be baptised with the Holey Spirit (Gods Seed)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


And how many Christians do you know who are Holy?

Answer: Zero. Christians continue to sin constantly. Many of them worse, because they become vain in their assumed righteousness, haughty, hypocritical.

You do not call out to Christ and become immediately holy or cleansed or any other such thing. Not in this life. Many will try, and that's great, they will reach their destination in Christ faster.

The rest will need to continue to reincarnate upwards, towards living the life of Christ, which they are assured from the Holy spirit, who heard their call for salvation.

Those who don't turn to Christ will continue to incarnate downwards, into more and greater degeneration.
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wtf does incarnation have to do with Christ or truth?

it goes against everything Jesus said and done....

no judgment and resurrection of the dead=no importance of Christ's sacrifice
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Oi.. and you started so well then you had to get into the karma BS. We don’t inhabit God, He inhabits us trough his Holey Spirit making us Holey as He is Holey and no sin can stand on Holey ground. The key is to be baptised with the Holey Spirit (Gods Seed)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28334809


And how many Christians do you know who are Holy?

Answer: Zero. Christians continue to sin constantly. Many of them worse, because they become vain in their assumed righteousness, haughty, hypocritical.

You do not call out to Christ and become immediately holy or cleansed or any other such thing. Not in this life. Many will try, and that's great, they will reach their destination in Christ faster.

The rest will need to continue to reincarnate upwards, towards living the life of Christ, which they are assured from the Holy spirit, who heard their call for salvation.

Those who don't turn to Christ will continue to incarnate downwards, into more and greater degeneration.
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and btw if you think reincarnation has anything to do with Christ,

ask yourselves,why did God lay such a burden on fucking bugs and animals...
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
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You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
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yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
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Nothing by itself is sinful. The circumstances decide. E.g. eating sweet is no problem until done beyond a healthy measure.
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


So if he said this in Chapter 1 why then did he contradict himself in chapter 3 of the same book? The answer is that he was explaining that we are all in need of salvation and if we say we are not then we are lying. But when we receive His salvation and the Holey Spirit then we are without sin.
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amen to that,it is the truth and God made it known to us for a reason
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


Nothing by itself is sinful. The circumstances decide. E.g. eating sweet is no problem until done beyond a healthy measure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


there are no healthy measures since processed sugar is bad for ou,in any quantity,like sin...
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Oi.. and you started so well then you had to get into the karma BS. We don’t inhabit God, He inhabits us trough his Holey Spirit making us Holey as He is Holey and no sin can stand on Holey ground. The key is to be baptised with the Holey Spirit (Gods Seed)
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And how many Christians do you know who are Holy?

Answer: Zero. Christians continue to sin constantly. Many of them worse, because they become vain in their assumed righteousness, haughty, hypocritical.

You do not call out to Christ and become immediately holy or cleansed or any other such thing. Not in this life. Many will try, and that's great, they will reach their destination in Christ faster.

The rest will need to continue to reincarnate upwards, towards living the life of Christ, which they are assured from the Holy spirit, who heard their call for salvation.

Those who don't turn to Christ will continue to incarnate downwards, into more and greater degeneration.
 Quoting: Lada D


John 13:34
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34 ‘A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
The key to a Holey life lies in observing the new commandment as given to us by Jesus before His assertion. That we should love one another.
I know a lot of people that calls themselves Christians but I know very few real Christians. When you meet one you will know because you will sense the holiness in them and in their presence you will experience peace.
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You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
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yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


Nothing by itself is sinful. The circumstances decide. E.g. eating sweet is no problem until done beyond a healthy measure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


there are no healthy measures since processed sugar is bad for ou,in any quantity,like sin...
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O man you are so far of the beaten track focus
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It is a contradiction that I do not understand.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


Nothing by itself is sinful. The circumstances decide. E.g. eating sweet is no problem until done beyond a healthy measure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


which is not the same with sex for example,sex is here for a purpose,and if you dont fill that purpose you will feel empty,

its like cannabis,people like it because it gets them high and relaxed,but it is not the purpose of the plant,and you are misusing it,therefore sacrificing it for a false purpose/god
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You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
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yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


Nothing by itself is sinful. The circumstances decide. E.g. eating sweet is no problem until done beyond a healthy measure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


there are no healthy measures since processed sugar is bad for ou,in any quantity,like sin...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


Not true. I like eating sweet meals, chocolate, fruit ... more than any other food.
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You can atone for any sin with your repentance = sinless.
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yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


Nothing by itself is sinful. The circumstances decide. E.g. eating sweet is no problem until done beyond a healthy measure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


which is not the same with sex for example,sex is here for a purpose,and if you dont fill that purpose you will feel empty,

its like cannabis,people like it because it gets them high and relaxed,but it is not the purpose of the plant,and you are misusing it,therefore sacrificing it for a false purpose/god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


You cannot be real. Do you each time you have sex procreate?
Not even doable, LOL.
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yes but i think the relevance of repentance is in the act of knowing and understanding (and hating) the consequences of your sin and fault.

i think people are deceived even by letting their children eat sweet,because that makes them sick and that is not the thing God wants for us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


Nothing by itself is sinful. The circumstances decide. E.g. eating sweet is no problem until done beyond a healthy measure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


there are no healthy measures since processed sugar is bad for ou,in any quantity,like sin...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28991966


O man you are so far of the beaten track focus
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actually i dont think i am,that is what i am trying to say,

we take salvation for granted because we think it is the same for us as for God,where in actuality it is not.

we are not on the same page with God,and you can see that from the right start of the bible as well as from the story of freshly saved noah getting drunk with new wine...

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