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If you are still believing the Bible there are many clear contradictions in it about Jesus

 
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If you are still believing the Bible there are many clear contradictions in it about Jesus
A sample of what has been checked out:

31) John 3:17 Jesus contradicts himself when he says, "God didn’t send his son into the world to condemn it, but to save it." Jesus seems to forget his own stories.

32) James 4:3 If your prayers are not answered, it’s your own damned fault. This is in direct contradiction to where Jesus says "seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be known to you".

33) "If Jesus bears witness of himself his witness is true" John 8:14, "If I bear witness of myself it is not true." John 5:31

34) "I am with you always, even unto the end of the world" (Matthew 28:20), versus "For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always" (Matthew 26:11 , Mark 14:7, John 12:8) and "Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am thither ye cannot come" (John 7:34). Is this the kind of friend one can rely on?

35) "And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her" (Mark 10:11 & Luke 6:18), versus "And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery" (Matthew 19:9). In the book of Matthew, Jesus said a man could put away his wife if one factor-- fornication--is involved. In Mark and Luke he allowed no exceptions.

36) Jesus is quoted: "Judge not, and ye shall be not judged; condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven" (Luke 6:37 & Matthew 7:1), versus "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). Jesus stated men are not to judge but, then, allowed it under certain conditions. As in the case of divorce, he can’t seem to formulate a consistent policy.

37) "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46, (also note the time before crucification where Jesus prays for the "cup to passeth over me") versus "Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour?’ No, for this purpose I have come to this hour" (John 12:27 RSV). Jesus can’t seem to decide whether or not he wants to die. One moment he is willing; the next he isn’t.

38) In Luke 23:30 ("Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, fall on us, and to the hills, cover us") Jesus quoted Hosea 10:8 ("...and they shall say to the mountains, cover us; and to the hills, fall on us"). And, like Paul, he often quoted inaccurately. In this instance, he confused mountains with hills.

39) "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they know him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist" (Matthew 17:11-13). John the Baptist was beheaded, but Jesus was not. And what did John the Baptist restore? Nothing!

40) We are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18 & 36) yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matthew 19:16-18 (saving by works)-if he wanted eternal life.

41) In Luke 12:4 Jesus told his followers to "Be not afraid of them that kill the body." But Matthew 12:14-16, John 7:1, 8:59, 10:39, 11:53-54, & Mark 1:45 show that Jesus consistently feared death. Jesus went out of his way to hide, run, and attempt escape from the Roman and Jewish authorities.

42) Matthew 5:28 says to sin in "your heart" is considered a sin in itself. The messiah is supposed to be God incarnate, not able to sin, yet in Matthew 4:5 & Luke 4:5-9, Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert, which is sinning in his heart. Jesus also took upon all the sins of the world during his crucifixion, so how can it be said that "Jesus was the perfect man without sin"? This would lead one to believe he was not the Messiah.

43) Jesus told us to "Love your enemies; bless them that curse you," but ignored his own advice by repeatedly denouncing his opposition. Matthew 23:17 ("Ye fools and blind"), Matthew 12:34 ("0 generation of vipers"), and Matthew 23:27 (". . . hypocrites . . . ye are like unto whited sepulchres. . .") are excellent examples of hypocrisy.

44) Did the people of Jesus’ generation see any signs? (Matthew 12:38-40) Jesus announced that no signs would be given to that generation except the Resurrection itself. (Mark 8:12-13) Jesus announced that no signs would be given to that generation. (Mark 16:20) They went out preaching, and the Lord confirmed the word through accompanying signs. (John 20:30) Jesus provided many wonders and signs. (Acts 2:22) Jesus provided many wonders and signs. (Acts 5:12 & 8:13) many signs and wonders were done through the apostles.

45) Jesus commands the disciples to go into Galilee immediately after the resurrection. Matthew 28:10 Jesus commands the disciples to "tarry in Jerusalem" immediately after the resurrection.

46) Matthew 28:18 & John 3:35 both tell that Jesus said he could do anything. Yet Mark 6:5 says Jesus was not all powerful.

47) Jesus says in Luke 2:13-14 that he came to bring peace on earth. Matthew 10:34 Jesus back peddles and says he did not come to bring peace on earth.

48) Did Christ receive testimony from man? "Ye sent unto John and he bare witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man." John 5:33-34 "And ye shall also bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning." John 15:27

49) Christ laid down his life for his friends. John 15:13 & 10:11 Christ laid down his life for his enemies. Romans 5:10

50) Deuteronomy 23:2 says that bastards can not attend church unto the tenth generation. If Jesus was spawned by Mary and Jehovah as the Bible claims then he is technically a bastard and should not be the leader of the church.

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Don´t stay shallow, in the biblical teachings.
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Satanist confirmed, ignore politely.
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YOU are the satanist.
You don't even question or refute what was written above, you jut project evil onto whomever wrote it. You DO the opposite of Christ. banana2s226
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YOU are the satanist.
You don't even question or refute what was written above, you jut project evil onto whomever wrote it. You DO the opposite of Christ. banana2s226
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You've just done the exact same thing. Don't lecture me about your hypocritical morals, there's only one word and it's not yours.
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comprehend much? guess not!
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Are you asking a question? What are you trying to say because I have read your contradictions and there are not any. There is alot of misunderstanding but no contradictions. What is it that you want to know. What message are you getting at with this thread.
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Are you asking a question? What are you trying to say because I have read your contradictions and there are not any. There is alot of misunderstanding but no contradictions. What is it that you want to know. What message are you getting at with this thread.
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If there are not any contradictions at all, would you do me a favor? Go over each point and point out the misunderstanding. Surely you could take the time to do this. You might save a few people from burning in flames forever and I am sure that Jesus will award you with a crown if you do.
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31) John 3:17 For God did not send his son to condemn the world but that through him the world would be saved.

Because of the first sin everyone went to Hell. Including the people of God. When he died on the cross and resurrected death and hell were defeated. He went within hell and took his people from there. Anyone that comes to Jesus Christ receives his spirit and they don't go there anymore. You are a Spirit who is eternal where you spend eternity depends on you. This physical reality is an illusion. But through him no one has to go to this of torment because of original sin.

32) James 4:3 You ask and do not receive because you ask amiss that you may spend on pleasure.

Have you read James because he is talking to people that are not of God.

Ask and you shall receive is accurate I am a witness to that. But it also depends what you ask for.
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34) "I am with you always, even unto the end of the world" (Matthew 28:20), versus "For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always" (Matthew 26:11 , Mark 14:7, John 12:8) and "Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am thither ye cannot come" (John 7:34). Is this the kind of friend one can rely on?


All of this is accurate When he says I'm with you always is because his spirit is always gonna be with a person. The part where he says me you have not always was regarding him physically not being there because he was leaving to heaven. Ye shall seek me and not find me because physically again he was not gonna be there. You have to understand that the way he spoke was spiritual. An example would be born again. This is not physical terminology but a spiritual.


Let me explain. When a person humbles them selves and Ask God the father to forgive them of their sins and accepts Jesus Christ as savior. You open yourself up spiritually speaking where his spirit comes within you. It's an experience because you feel everything that is happening. Beautiful experience by the way. This is being born again. It's being born by his spirit. It's a supernatural experience. It's an awakening by his spirit filling you within. You get to become sensitive to spiritual things.
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Often times when you ask God for something, it is just not feasible for it it happen immediately.

You my have been starving and asked for food, so God will provide the peanut butter and jelly, but it's on you to make the sandwich.

I too can attest to God. I had reached a plateau in my negative lifestyle and had asked God to help me out of that mess. I was sincerely scared because I had 'reached the top' but knew I was actually stuck in a personal hell and living in Sin.

It did not happen instantly but I can tell you within a very short period of time (weeks) I was provided an exit strategy which included a golden parachute, if you know what I mean. Now I can tell you that it is real, as I am living way better then I was in the past (and I was living FAT!) so all Glory goes to God, hollowed be His Name, His Kingdom come, His will be done - on Earth as it is in Heaven..

..Thank you Lord - for saving me so I can turn and tell others.
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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. - Gentle Jesus Meek and Mild
Luke 19:27
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Don't confuse yourself

Jesus Christ is Meek and loving beyond words. To those that are his. Whoever comes to him will receive his Love.

But whoever refuses him will receive his wrath.

He is

Lamb and Lion
Small and Great
Humble and Exalted
Soldier and Commander
Servant and King of Glory
Just Judge

He died that we may live only through him who takes the curse away from those who come to him. To those that refuse him that curse of original sin is still upon them.
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A sample of what has been checked out:

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cruise
If your soul means so little to you that you parrot lies and crap that has been EASILY debunked (gty.org) you deserve the lake of fire.
Enjoy.
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"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing..." (Cor 1: 18)
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I used to believe until I started questioning verses and their
meaning like this one. no one can answer without clear indoctrination.

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)
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I used to believe until I started questioning verses and their
meaning like this one. no one can answer without clear indoctrination.

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)
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What problem do you have with that verse?
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Believe because that verse was accurate some of them did not taste death but watched Jesus Christ acending into the clouds. Into his kingdom which is in heaven.
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"If you are still believing that you created yourself there are many clear
contradictions in it about you being a living god"

for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. (Gen. 3:19)

no need to continue past that one actually
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I used to believe until I started questioning verses and their
meaning like this one. no one can answer without clear indoctrination.

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)
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What problem do you have with that verse?
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He told his disciples they'd be alive to witness his Second Coming. Clearly failed prophecy.
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YOU are the satanist.
You don't even question or refute what was written above, you jut project evil onto whomever wrote it. You DO the opposite of Christ. banana2s226
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let me guess .... MUSLIMS PAKI BASTARD , AM I RIGHT ...HUH , FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR PEDOPHILE RELIGIOUN
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Maybe he was human.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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I used to believe until I started questioning verses and their
meaning like this one. no one can answer without clear indoctrination.

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)
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What problem do you have with that verse?
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He told his disciples they'd be alive to witness his Second Coming. Clearly failed prophecy.
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They will be alive you twat , the second death is after judgement , so clearly they are still alive ..
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Don't confuse yourself

Jesus Christ is Meek and loving beyond words. To those that are his. Whoever comes to him will receive his Love.

But whoever refuses him will receive his wrath.

He is

Lamb and Lion
Small and Great
Humble and Exalted
Soldier and Commander
Servant and King of Glory
Just Judge

He died that we may live only through him who takes the curse away from those who come to him. To those that refuse him that curse of original sin is still upon them.
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Thanks that is an excellent comparison. hf
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Put down The Bible or your crack pipe you've been smoking, which ever suits you, and never mix the two again.
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Don't confuse yourself

Jesus Christ is Meek and loving beyond words. To those that are his. Whoever comes to him will receive his Love.

But whoever refuses him will receive his wrath.

He is

Lamb and Lion
Small and Great
Humble and Exalted
Soldier and Commander
Servant and King of Glory
Just Judge

He died that we may live only through him who takes the curse away from those who come to him. To those that refuse him that curse of original sin is still upon them.
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So 'God' created us with the curse of sin upon which our fate would be eternal hell but he had to send his son (also considered 'God') to earth to undo the curse the he created and those who don't accept Jesus to lift the original sin that 'God' (also Jesus) created will face the wrath of Jesus ('God').

What a loving 'God' we have! Not only does he create the sin that curses us but he unleashes his wrath on his creation and those who suffer from the sin that he created.

Cool fairy tale bro.

You might want to think twice before you tell others not to confuse themselves.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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So 'God' created us with the curse of sin upon which our fate would be eternal hell but he had to send his son (also considered 'God') to earth to undo the curse the he created and those who don't accept Jesus to lift the original sin that 'God' (also Jesus) created will face the wrath of Jesus ('God').

What a loving 'God' we have! Not only does he create the sin that curses us but he unleashes his wrath on his creation and those who suffer from the sin that he created.
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Almost.

All who have ever lived and followed God are forgiven their sins. Jesus came that we may know him (God) who created and forgives man of our fallen state of sin.

We are not perfect and do sin. We were created with free will to love or not and with that comes sin - doing good or evil.

Those who choose to reject their creator are destroyed in the end in the lake of fire (hall). Those who accepted the free gift get eternal life. And that is a cool ending.

It's not a fairy tale but world history. 'Caveman' is Satan's fairy tale many believe.
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The story is a little more intense. God created Angels first but when God created his own image (Adam) and told them to bow before his image, Lucifer refused and 1/3 of the angels. Because of this they were cast out onto the earth. Adam and Eve were like little children not knowing right and wrong. Like a puppy and curious like little children. But like little children you tell them don't touch something, they touch it anyways and get burned. God knew what was going to happen and he allowed it to happen that Humans may be like God Knowing.
Adam and Eve sinned but became aware understanding just like God. But there was a bad side to that they would die. Spiritually and Physically. Because of this original sin all men from creation till Jesus Christ went to hell. Seperated between the children of God and others who did wrong but in hell never the less . When Jesus Christ died he went into hell to destroy death and hell. People went to hell because of original sin. Those the receive Jesus Christ that curse is broken through his death. Those that refuse Jesus Christ that curse remains upon them. And will go to that place where you don't have to go.
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There is not ONE single contradiction in the entire Bible. The contradictions are in our own minds and spirits. We refuse to even look at our own limitations, putting ourselves upon the throne of God. What part of "here a little, there a little; line upon line and precept upon precept" do most not understand? Men would limit God and his multifaceted mind. God can LITERALLY begin a sentence from the beginning of the world and end that sentence at the end of the world. How can we possibly know how to interpret this but by the Holy Spirit of God. Men think that God has to put one word after another like they do to have a meaningful sentence. One single word from God created the entire universe. Can we possibly presume to think that we could "understand" that word by just reading it? Of course we couldn't. His ways are so high above our ways that only HE can help us to understand it--and that only imperfectly.

The Lord is Omnipresent. This means that He not only SEES through the ages, He is ACTUALLY there....and there....and there--simultaneously. Can anybody even wrap their minds around this. Combine all this with Omnipotence, Omniscience and other unnamable things puts this so far beyond our understanding that it is a LITERAL miracle that we can even be TAUGHT by God of His great Glory.

Great and learned men down through the ages have attempted to show the "many" contractictions of the Scriptures and have ended up "broken upon the Rock". I have 3 college degrees (for all that is worth), and thought that I would be the one to debunk this garbage once and for all. I said to myself that if I cannot find one scientic thing in this book, what good is it. I found it to be the greatest scientific book I have ever read--once I understood how to interpret it. It is now my guide in ALL THINGS small and great. From the pages of Scripture, I found a theme that literally boggled my mind when I understood it. Science now has a name for it and I can't help but suspect that they pulled it from my own blogs on the subject. It is called the "Calabi-Yau theory", and CERN has plans to conduct experiments to see if, indeed, space itself is what holds all things together and made up of 7-11 dimensions which are "roiling and boiling" around every single piece of matter.

Nature (science) and revelation (Scripture) ALIKE testify of God and His Kingdom. When you look at nature correctly (as opposed to "nature falsely so-called") EVERY SINGLE THING in nature ministers to some other thing. Even death itself, ministers to others. A lifetime of study and research has led me only closer and closer to the truth of the Scriptures. Many things I did not understand, became clear as life led me down its journey and the words of the Scripture jump out in full relief. What a loss it is for those who cannot see!! It is my greatest joy. Everything in life eventually passes and what is important today is nothing tomorrow. Yet, God's Word stands in EVERY situation and prepares us for ANY eventuality. "Even though he slay me, yet will I trust in Him".
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