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Nasa unveils Mars Curiousity findings today at 12pm EST (watch live)

 
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"It's...It's a cookbook!"

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How To Cook Forty Humans. (tree house of horror ,The Simpsons)i just hope there aint dust on it.yoda
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You didn't need to explain it to me, I got the reference immediately.

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h2o (water), o2 (oxygen), and co2 (carbon dioxide) were gas vapors released upon heating up soil samples.
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How do you know??
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organic compounds found in the soil
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Damn you OP. I can't view it, but the news indicates otherwise.

"At this point in the mission, the instruments on the rover have not detected any definitive evidence of Martian organics."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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Damn You!!

Be man enough to appoligize ..

The guy is right
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He said they found organics in the martian soil. They actually said they haven't yet found definitive evidence of organics. They said, and I quote, "we have no definitive detection of Martian organics at this point, but we will keep looking in the diverse environments of Gale Crater."
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finding O2 in the soil pretty much confirms there was once life on mars
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cruise

No, it doesn't.

Does iron ore prove life?
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organic compounds found in the soil
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Damn you OP. I can't view it, but the news indicates otherwise.

"At this point in the mission, the instruments on the rover have not detected any definitive evidence of Martian organics."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


try the other streams, I don't think the space.com one is streaming..

I didn't say they found aliens. organic compounds doesn't necessarily mean "living organisms." but as John Grotzinger just said, finding organics is rare.
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I didn't say you said anything about aliens. Martian organics doesn't mean living organisms. It means organic compounds from mars. They haven't yet found definitive evidence of that according to them. They probably thought they had at first hence the hyped up tweet, but further examination didn't pan out would be my guess.
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NASA will provide a live webcast to detail its latest discoveries by the Mars rover Curiosity today at 12 p.m. EST (1500 GMT) during a press conference at the annual Fall Meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco. A teleconference later today will also udpate the public on NASA's farflung Voyager spacecraft, which are poised to exit the solar system.
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CheMin's examination of Rocknest samples found the composition is about half common volcanic minerals and half non-crystalline materials such as glass. SAM added information about ingredients present in much lower concentrations and about ratios of isotopes. Isotopes are different forms of the same element and can provide clues about environmental changes. The water seen by SAM does not mean the drift was wet. Water molecules bound to grains of sand or dust are not unusual, but the quantity seen was higher than anticipated.

SAM tentatively identified the oxygen and chlorine compound perchlorate. This is a reactive chemical previously found in arctic Martian soil by NASA's Phoenix Lander. Reactions with other chemicals heated in SAM formed chlorinated methane compounds -- one-carbon organics that were detected by the instrument. The chlorine is of Martian origin, but it is possible the carbon may be of Earth origin, carried by Curiosity and detected by SAM's high sensitivity design.

To paraphrase- yes they have found the organic componentents that could sustain life on mars. Again could does nit mean does but the possibility is ever so likely . In other words mats proves a viable out Post for mining and colonization.
Manned crafts to be sent in
near future.
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[link to www.space.com]

NASA will provide a live webcast to detail its latest discoveries by the Mars rover Curiosity today at 12 p.m. EST (1500 GMT) during a press conference at the annual Fall Meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco. A teleconference later today will also udpate the public on NASA's farflung Voyager spacecraft, which are poised to exit the solar system.
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CheMin's examination of Rocknest samples found the composition is about half common volcanic minerals and half non-crystalline materials such as glass. SAM added information about ingredients present in much lower concentrations and about ratios of isotopes. Isotopes are different forms of the same element and can provide clues about environmental changes. The water seen by SAM does not mean the drift was wet. Water molecules bound to grains of sand or dust are not unusual, but the quantity seen was higher than anticipated.

SAM tentatively identified the oxygen and chlorine compound perchlorate. This is a reactive chemical previously found in arctic Martian soil by NASA's Phoenix Lander. Reactions with other chemicals heated in SAM formed chlorinated methane compounds -- one-carbon organics that were detected by the instrument. The chlorine is of Martian origin, but it is possible the carbon may be of Earth origin, carried by Curiosity and detected by SAM's high sensitivity design.

To paraphrase- yes they have found the organic componentents that could sustain life on mars. Again could does nit mean does but the possibility is ever so likely . In other words mats proves a viable out Post for mining and colonization.
Manned crafts to be sent in
near future.
resist
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Ho Hum.

Without even getting there, methane has already been hinted by an Italian Astronomer a few years ago.

So, keep waiting for nothing...
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71491977N 29323006W Go to google mars go to that location and zoom in to about 10,000 feet and you will see our base so much for the rover
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"It's...It's a cookbook!"

ahhh
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"It's...It's a cookbook!"

ahhh
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Now that was funny! You got me to LOL on this one.
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finding O2 in the soil pretty much confirms there was once life on mars
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no it doesn't. O2 is the natural state of oxygen in it's atomic form.

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that's true, but IMO, I guess it all depends on how much oxygen was found. If the soil was less than like .50 - 5% oxygen then yeah we can call that natural oxygen.

But if the Mars soil is 20%+ oxygen then that's proof of life
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71491977N 29323006W Go to google mars go to that location and zoom in to about 10,000 feet and you will see our base so much for the rover
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fail
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This was one for the History books, I am currently rewriting mine as we speak


Thank god for NASA
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Never A Straight Answer
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Never A Straight Answer
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With all the bright minds at NASA, it seems like they could dream up some slightly more entertaining fictions in return for all the taxpayer dollars that are supporting them.

What a waste of money!
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Any sort of organics would be earth shattering.
Religiontards will have to regroup, start thinking up excuses.
There's a reason they executed Galileo, the news that the earth was not the center of the earth released religions hold enough for a growth in human knowledge that is still ongoing.
Can't let that happen again
 Quoting: bvndy


I have to ask WHY does the religious tards have to rethink anything? Is there some kind of biblical passage that states that no life exists beyond earth?
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yeah and they havnt grasped what " one day equals a thousands yrs thing to god...YET
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How disappointing. Was hoping to see fossilized alien03
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whatever

non-event
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whatever

non-event
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the main news, which should enter into the textbooks as previously reported by NASA - it's not news about organics, but the news that The colonization of Mars is not possible: water on Mars contains much more deuterium- more: [link to hainanwel.com]
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Any sort of organics would be earth shattering.
Religiontards will have to regroup, start thinking up excuses.
There's a reason they executed Galileo, the news that the earth was not the center of the earth released religions hold enough for a growth in human knowledge that is still ongoing.
Can't let that happen again
 Quoting: bvndy


I have to ask WHY does the religious tards have to rethink anything? Is there some kind of biblical passage that states that no life exists beyond earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1391353


yeah and they havnt grasped what " one day equals a thousands yrs thing to god...YET
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The more I learn about science the more I believe in God. Most Christains DO NOT believe in the exact wording of the Bible, only the loudest ones.

But in the 90's wasn't there proof of microscopic life on Mars? If so, then there had to be oxygen etc. present for this life to exist. I don't get the big reveal here.
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"It's...It's a cookbook!"

ahhh
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lmao OMG you have the BEST humor, I swear!! ;)

hugs
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Mars Curiousity a la Planet 51 style

Curiousity: Picks up dead rat, moves it out of the way, drops back to the ground.

Curiousity: Sees the rock it wanted to get that dead rat was on top of. Picks up rock and anaylizes. Detects organic compounds as well, (rat doo).
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I do not know about you guys, BUT WE SHOULD BE MORE concern with what is happening here on earth, right now, thna what happended in MARS!!!!...

BS BS BS
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Any sort of organics would be earth shattering.
Religiontards will have to regroup, start thinking up excuses.
There's a reason they executed Galileo, the news that the earth was not the center of the earth released religions hold enough for a growth in human knowledge that is still ongoing.
Can't let that happen again
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I have to ask WHY does the religious tards have to rethink anything? Is there some kind of biblical passage that states that no life exists beyond earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1391353


Nope, but there is one that describes what god "did" create, and, for what purpose, and there ain't fuck all in there about any life anywhere else.
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"It's...It's a cookbook!"

ahhh
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lmao OMG you have the BEST humor, I swear!! ;)

hugs
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hf
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organic compounds found in the soil
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Damn you OP. I can't view it, but the news indicates otherwise.

"At this point in the mission, the instruments on the rover have not detected any definitive evidence of Martian organics."
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Damn You!!

Be man enough to appoligize ..

The guy is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29004908


He said they found organics in the martian soil. They actually said they haven't yet found definitive evidence of organics. They said, and I quote, "we have no definitive detection of Martian organics at this point, but we will keep looking in the diverse environments of Gale Crater."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Oh to hell with the lot of you...we have enough organics in the produce section!

Sorry...I couldn't resist :-)
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So can someone summarize WTF the big announcement was?

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So can someone summarize WTF the big announcement was?

spockwtf
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Nope. It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

Ok, so it actually goes along the lines of, our instruments are working great, we found water, sulfur, and perchlorate salts, and when they heated the sample, the chlorine reacted to form chlorinated methane, but they don't know if the methane came from Mars or if it was just a byproduct of a reaction between the chlorine from the perchlorate and carbon dioxide gas or any possible trace of carbon contamination that flew with the rover.

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Any sort of organics would be earth shattering.
Religiontards will have to regroup, start thinking up excuses.
There's a reason they executed Galileo, the news that the earth was not the center of the earth released religions hold enough for a growth in human knowledge that is still ongoing.
Can't let that happen again
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I have more education than you could ever hope to achieve. I am also a deeply religious believer in Jesus Christ. I have read the Bible.

There are, of course, other worlds with other life.

Jesus Christ is Lord of all of them.

Now, please, take your ethnocentric-isms and shove them.

Thanks.
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So can someone summarize WTF the big announcement was?

:spockwtf:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

Nope. It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

Ok, so it actually goes along the lines of, our instruments are working great, we found water, sulfur, and perchlorate salts, and when they heated the sample, the chlorine reacted to form chlorinated methane, but they don't know if the methane came from Mars or if it was just a byproduct of a reaction between the chlorine from the perchlorate and carbon dioxide gas or any possible trace of carbon contamination that flew with the rover.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


perchlorate salts

Isn't perchlorate salts a type of rocket fuel oxidant?

[link to www.organicconsumers.org]

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