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Pen and Teller, A study of propagandists.

 
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Pen and Teller, A study of propagandists.
These guys would have to be the worst I've seen in terms of cheap hit pieces.

Skeptics are usually quite harmless. But this show is not skepticism, it's a war on anything that basically goes in a direction of any progress, which is quite telling in itself.

These guys use techniques that are really below the belt too. They go so far as swearing, cursing the person that is suppose to be interviewed. But even more than that the interviews are written like a script and played out like a movie. In other words they aren't actual interviews but they are given the appearance as if it was an interview.

The thing is it's incredibly biased to the point of ridiculous. For instance the idea they want to make fun of, they will present someone that is suppose to represent that idea, and then they will get them to do something like flap there arms like a chicken, and that's suppose to give up the impressed the idea they are putting forth is therefore not credible.

They do many other cheap tricks like this. And it boarders on plain deception of the viewer, some might actually be foolish enough to believe that it's real. That's the concerning thing.

So this thread is about exposing the agenda of pen and teller. Bit by bit. Having a look at their videos and recognizing the pattern. An by studying it we can get a clear picture of their agenda, and the techniques they have used, and to learn how they go about trying to manipulate us.
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12/03/2012 01:26 PM
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Penn & Teller's BULLSHIT. Excellent show.
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I say this because there is a lot to learn from the psychology of propaganda. And pen and teller is a perfect study of what propaganda involves.
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Penn & Teller's BULLSHIT. Excellent show.
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What's excellent about it? lol. It's the least credible show I've ever seen before. That's why I made this thread.
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12/03/2012 01:30 PM
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I say this because there is a lot to learn from the psychology of propaganda. And pen and teller is a perfect study of what propaganda involves.
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No, you say this because you are some young, Leftist, "progressive" idiot.

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12/03/2012 01:32 PM
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Penn & Teller are no better than quackwatch and so on.
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I say this because there is a lot to learn from the psychology of propaganda. And pen and teller is a perfect study of what propaganda involves.
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No, you say this because you are some young, Leftist, "progressive" idiot.

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what's "leftist" suppose to mean? Does that mean pen and teller is "rightist" lol.

And well progress is always good. So if you are progressive that's good.

I'm not sure it's that smart to call progress idiotic.
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12/03/2012 01:34 PM
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Pen and Teller... Thats like getting your news From Comedy Central.
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12/03/2012 01:34 PM
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That penn dude is a big reptilian draco gone full retard
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I just don't understand how you can watch a show like penn and teller, and not be disgusted by it. Unless you are completely as loopy as they are.

like there is obviously a bias agenda there lol. They have made these videos like as if it was a movie, but they do it in interview format, trying to make out they are journalist or something hahahahha.

It's nothing like journalism. It's unprofessional, it's disrespectful to people who are trying to do good in the world. And it's deceptive.

like why and how do they get away with a show like that?

Maybe it's because no-one takes them seriously or notices them. but their videos are just completely off the wall and wacked.

No scholar would ever use penn and teller as a reference, and that's saying something. It's a comedy show, trying to convince, I dunno the bogans of society, that it's journalism.
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I say this because there is a lot to learn from the psychology of propaganda. And pen and teller is a perfect study of what propaganda involves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


No, you say this because you are some young, Leftist, "progressive" idiot.

cruise
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what's "leftist" suppose to mean? Does that mean pen and teller is "rightist" lol.

And well progress is always good. So if you are progressive that's good.

I'm not sure it's that smart to call progress idiotic.
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WTF? Progressives have nohing to do with making progress. Progressives are ruining this country. I get the credo progreesive reports in my email all the time it's always the same crap trying to justify destroying civil rights and banning guns.
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They became popular about the same time Dennis Miller claimed his fame. I think many are empowered to change the population. Some use it for the benefit of others and some deviate from the norm as a result..
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It's because it's trying to tap into the fact that people want skepticism and want to put their head in the sand sometimes. that's essentially what they are trying to tap into and their niche.

But it' actually making other skeptics look much less credible. Cause they go under the banner of skepticism, when it's not really proper skepticism at all. Skepticism is suppose to be neutral.
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The thing is it's incredibly biased to the point of ridiculous. For instance the idea they want to make fun of, they will present someone that is suppose to represent that idea, and then they will get them to do something like flap there arms like a chicken, and that's suppose to give up the impressed the idea they are putting forth is therefore not credible.
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That is the point of Penn & Teller. This is their shtick. That is what people watch them for. If you don't like it, there are other entertainments.
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12/03/2012 01:45 PM
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12/03/2012 01:47 PM
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Yes, I too am enraged that people are entertained by a show hosted by two magicians.

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12/03/2012 01:49 PM
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once you reach a certain level of awareness in your mind. Penn and teller just look right ridiculous.

It almost gets embarrassing, to watch their videos you start feeling stupid that you are even watching.

I mean look at their photos for christ sake look at this.



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like are they for real?

there's so many ridiculous pictures of them.
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Just 2 little-Jews who had to do the "casting couch" in front of the "blackmail camera".

This ones are hiding being the "libertarian" side of the "left vs right" jewish "thesis-><-antithesis" dialectic.
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OP, don't argue with them in here.

When you evolve to a level of understanding beyond your peers, I refer it to as the "Knowing and the great alone."

It can't be related, it must be experienced at that level.
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ROFL

why would you call them magicians.


They are not magicians. Just cause they throw in some cheap half baked magic tricks don't make them magicians. It make them clown journalist that hide under a banner of comedy, while trying to pass political ideas off as credible??

come on I know you guys are this stupid.
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if I do the egg and cup trick am I a magician too?

hahaha


playing with baking soda or whatever else doesn't count as a proper career as a magician.

like nothing penn and teller ever impressed me in terms of magic haha.

but as for there videos, god they are cheap hit pieces if I ever saw them.
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I say this because there is a lot to learn from the psychology of propaganda. And pen and teller is a perfect study of what propaganda involves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


No, you say this because you are some young, Leftist, "progressive" idiot.

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29000281


what's "leftist" suppose to mean? Does that mean pen and teller is "rightist" lol.

And well progress is always good. So if you are progressive that's good.

I'm not sure it's that smart to call progress idiotic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


WTF? Progressives have nohing to do with making progress. Progressives are ruining this country. I get the credo progreesive reports in my email all the time it's always the same crap trying to justify destroying civil rights and banning guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1411970


Notice how NOTHING that "Progressives" ever want/demand involves rolling-back the power of the State, and getting Government out of peoples' lives?

Ever notice that?

"Progressives" are either "useful idiots", or statist scum with a power-grabbing agenda.

damned
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
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I personally like Penn and Teller. I've always admired their illusions as well as their show Bullshit.
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
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YOU have no credibility, you unrepentant STATIST!

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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


I personally like Penn and Teller. I've always admired their illusions as well as their show Bullshit.
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there show is called "bullshit"?

hahahaha

I like them but they are just retarded their views on things.
And the fact their show is fantasy, doesn't helpwhen they are trying to express opinions that are suppose to be serious, and yet it's a comedy? But it's political.
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Pen and Teller... Thats like getting your news From Comedy Central.
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Sadly millions do by watching the Daily Show... They think its "news"

putin
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pen comes across as an abusive loud mouth...i call bullshit on him
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The thing that is so messed up about it, is how they always side with the argument that is most wrong, that's the thing that makes it really dubious.

like there's something going on there for certain.


I don't really care about their magic tricks. Anyone can buy magic tricks off the internet these days. It's not impressive i prefer serious magicians that actually have some decision illusions up their sleeve.


The only real illusions they create that is worthy or study is the propaganda in there shows.
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Doing it for effect. It is an act. It brings in money for them.

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