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Pen and Teller, A study of propagandists.

 
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I know i have a lot of typos guys im typing really fast and this keyboard is not the best. I'll do a proper study of there shows later it's going to be fun though.

with my serious posts I've make sure there no errors in typing.
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stfu
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
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I personally like Penn and Teller. I've always admired their illusions as well as their show Bullshit.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


there show is called "bullshit"?

hahahaha

I like them but they are just retarded their views on things.
And the fact their show is fantasy, doesn't helpwhen they are trying to express opinions that are suppose to be serious, and yet it's a comedy? But it's political.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Yep, their show was called "Bullshit." It was on Showtime for a while. Not sure if it still is. They put a humorous twist on their show, naturally. But that's because they've always had humor in their act. It's what people expect of them and it's what they do well.

Their show isn't fantasy. It's just a different way of looking at some things that's all. You're taking the show much too seriously. Although they do make some good plausible points in many of their subjects, the show is still pretty lighthearted.

Lighten up.
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stfu
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
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Doing it for effect. It is an act. It brings in money for them.
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It's more than an act they are trying to be political and scientific. Each show they do is about a subject and about something, and they make conclusions. If it was an act they would not be making conclusions as if they were academics on a subject rofl.

they trying to present themselves as if they were academics. Doesn't anyone notice that.....

but their show is just pure fantasy. in the presentation of like science, but it's not science it's a hit piece on whatever subject they decide.
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12/03/2012 02:19 PM

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stfu
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Doing it for effect. It is an act. It brings in money for them.
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It's more than an act they are trying to be political and scientific. Each show they do is about a subject and about something, and they make conclusions. If it was an act they would not be making conclusions as if they were academics on a subject rofl.

they trying to present themselves as if they were academics. Doesn't anyone notice that.....

but their show is just pure fantasy. in the presentation of like science, but it's not science it's a hit piece on whatever subject they decide.
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Give me an example. Is there a specific show that irked you the most?
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
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I personally like Penn and Teller. I've always admired their illusions as well as their show Bullshit.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


there show is called "bullshit"?

hahahaha

I like them but they are just retarded their views on things.
And the fact their show is fantasy, doesn't helpwhen they are trying to express opinions that are suppose to be serious, and yet it's a comedy? But it's political.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Yep, their show was called "Bullshit." It was on Showtime for a while. Not sure if it still is. They put a humorous twist on their show, naturally. But that's because they've always had humor in their act. It's what people expect of them and it's what they do well.

Their show isn't fantasy. It's just a different way of looking at some things that's all. You're taking the show much too seriously. Although they do make some good plausible points in many of their subjects, the show is still pretty lighthearted.

Lighten up.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Are you mad lady?

lighten up? I been laughing my head off at it. Just cause I don't agree with you don't mean I'm not laughing at it.

And yes, their show is overall fantasy, they don't make good points at all, their conclusions are based on their own biased pre-conceived idea that they have an agenda to have haha. how can it possibly be neutral? You got to get real at some point.

and that's the point trying to hide behind the banner of comedy does not escape the fact they are trying to debate something, with basically trick photography and unfair hit pieces that border on deceptive.

That is so no plausible. And you would have to be brain dead to think it is plausible, or in any context scientific, or in any context academic.

I've never seen someone try to be funny, and with magic tricks, while trying to be a journalist, while trying to look scientific.

It's just ridiculous.
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not to mention yelling and swearing in your videos hahaha.

like explicit language in it, while trying to convince the viewer of something.
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I personally like Penn and Teller. I've always admired their illusions as well as their show Bullshit.
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there show is called "bullshit"?

hahahaha

I like them but they are just retarded their views on things.
And the fact their show is fantasy, doesn't helpwhen they are trying to express opinions that are suppose to be serious, and yet it's a comedy? But it's political.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Yep, their show was called "Bullshit." It was on Showtime for a while. Not sure if it still is. They put a humorous twist on their show, naturally. But that's because they've always had humor in their act. It's what people expect of them and it's what they do well.

Their show isn't fantasy. It's just a different way of looking at some things that's all. You're taking the show much too seriously. Although they do make some good plausible points in many of their subjects, the show is still pretty lighthearted.

Lighten up.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Are you mad lady?

lighten up? I been laughing my head off at it. Just cause I don't agree with you don't mean I'm not laughing at it.

And yes, their show is overall fantasy, they don't make good points at all, their conclusions are based on their own biased pre-conceived idea that they have an agenda to have haha. how can it possibly be neutral? You got to get real at some point.

and that's the point trying to hide behind the banner of comedy does not escape the fact they are trying to debate something, with basically trick photography and unfair hit pieces that border on deceptive.

That is so no plausible. And you would have to be brain dead to think it is plausible, or in any context scientific, or in any context academic.

I've never seen someone try to be funny, and with magic tricks, while trying to be a journalist, while trying to look scientific.

It's just ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Your first two statements in this thread that you created..

"These guys would have to be the worst I've seen in terms of cheap hit pieces.

Skeptics are usually quite harmless. But this show is not skepticism, it's a war on anything that basically goes in a direction of any progress, which is quite telling in itself.
"

I think that qualifies as you needing to lighten up..

Also, I asked if there was a show that irked you the most. What conclusions have you disagreed with the most? Or do you just think that they're 100% wrong on everything?

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stfu
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Rofl

He's not even credible. No-one gets their knickers in a not like that unless they are completely bonkers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Doing it for effect. It is an act. It brings in money for them.
 Quoting: Prostetnik


It's more than an act they are trying to be political and scientific. Each show they do is about a subject and about something, and they make conclusions. If it was an act they would not be making conclusions as if they were academics on a subject rofl.

they trying to present themselves as if they were academics. Doesn't anyone notice that.....

but their show is just pure fantasy. in the presentation of like science, but it's not science it's a hit piece on whatever subject they decide.
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Actually now that you mention it, you are right. They bulldoze over every other idea and theory. Penn is like a big bully. But both of them are really smart, so I cannot see them actually being taken in by some of the stuff they come up with.
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Pen and Teller... Thats like getting your news From Comedy Central.
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cruise

Whaaa, you mean Jon Stewart and that dumbass Colbert are not 'reputable'?

/sarcasm/

No doubt though... that's like getting a world understanding from the funnies outta your local newspaper!
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It's like dressing up as a clown, to run for president. And saying that every night you get anal probed by wonder woman, but you have a degree in quantum physics at the same time, and have won the Nobel peace prize, but your currently in charge of a nuclear weapons program and running a campaign to invade iran, and you claim your superman, but you don't believe in UFOs.

and you do magic tricks while conducting experiments in the lab, and you go out and report the news but you add bit and pieces to it depending on what you want to make up.
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thats how fucking crazy these guys are.
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Pen and Teller... Thats like getting your news From Comedy Central.
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cruise

Whaaa, you mean Jon Stewart and that dumbass Colbert are not 'reputable'?

/sarcasm/

No doubt though... that's like getting a world understanding from the funnies outta your local newspaper!
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People don't actually get their news from Stewart and Colbert, that's just what some people say. You kind of already have to be up on the news to get what they're referring to on their shows, otherwise no one would get the jokes.
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It's like dressing up as a clown, to run for president. And saying that every night you get anal probed by wonder woman, but you have a degree in quantum physics at the same time, and have won the Nobel peace prize, but your currently in charge of a nuclear weapons program and running a campaign to invade iran, and you claim your superman, but you don't believe in UFOs.

and you do magic tricks while conducting experiments in the lab, and you go out and report the news but you add bit and pieces to it depending on what you want to make up.
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Haha! Yeah, it is like they can't make up their minds on what image they of themselves they are trying to project.
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there show is called "bullshit"?

hahahaha

I like them but they are just retarded their views on things.
And the fact their show is fantasy, doesn't helpwhen they are trying to express opinions that are suppose to be serious, and yet it's a comedy? But it's political.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Yep, their show was called "Bullshit." It was on Showtime for a while. Not sure if it still is. They put a humorous twist on their show, naturally. But that's because they've always had humor in their act. It's what people expect of them and it's what they do well.

Their show isn't fantasy. It's just a different way of looking at some things that's all. You're taking the show much too seriously. Although they do make some good plausible points in many of their subjects, the show is still pretty lighthearted.

Lighten up.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Are you mad lady?

lighten up? I been laughing my head off at it. Just cause I don't agree with you don't mean I'm not laughing at it.

And yes, their show is overall fantasy, they don't make good points at all, their conclusions are based on their own biased pre-conceived idea that they have an agenda to have haha. how can it possibly be neutral? You got to get real at some point.

and that's the point trying to hide behind the banner of comedy does not escape the fact they are trying to debate something, with basically trick photography and unfair hit pieces that border on deceptive.

That is so no plausible. And you would have to be brain dead to think it is plausible, or in any context scientific, or in any context academic.

I've never seen someone try to be funny, and with magic tricks, while trying to be a journalist, while trying to look scientific.

It's just ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Your first two statements in this thread that you created..

"These guys would have to be the worst I've seen in terms of cheap hit pieces.

Skeptics are usually quite harmless. But this show is not skepticism, it's a war on anything that basically goes in a direction of any progress, which is quite telling in itself.
"

I think that qualifies as you needing to lighten up..

Also, I asked if there was a show that irked you the most. What conclusions have you disagreed with the most? Or do you just think that they're 100% wrong on everything?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Why on earth would you defend penn and teller like it's a serious thing? Are you wacked or something?

you can't support penn and teller and be academic at the same time cause that's impossible.

You asking me what political thing or show I disagreed with. That would be like asking me after the circus show which red nosed clown was right and wrong when they were fighting.

Since it's a made up act. I'm only going to study it as a piece of propaganda, like the fantasy show it is, not actually debate with them, because it's not a debate it's a hit piece on whatever subject they do.
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Yep, their show was called "Bullshit." It was on Showtime for a while. Not sure if it still is. They put a humorous twist on their show, naturally. But that's because they've always had humor in their act. It's what people expect of them and it's what they do well.

Their show isn't fantasy. It's just a different way of looking at some things that's all. You're taking the show much too seriously. Although they do make some good plausible points in many of their subjects, the show is still pretty lighthearted.

Lighten up.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Are you mad lady?

lighten up? I been laughing my head off at it. Just cause I don't agree with you don't mean I'm not laughing at it.

And yes, their show is overall fantasy, they don't make good points at all, their conclusions are based on their own biased pre-conceived idea that they have an agenda to have haha. how can it possibly be neutral? You got to get real at some point.

and that's the point trying to hide behind the banner of comedy does not escape the fact they are trying to debate something, with basically trick photography and unfair hit pieces that border on deceptive.

That is so no plausible. And you would have to be brain dead to think it is plausible, or in any context scientific, or in any context academic.

I've never seen someone try to be funny, and with magic tricks, while trying to be a journalist, while trying to look scientific.

It's just ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Your first two statements in this thread that you created..

"These guys would have to be the worst I've seen in terms of cheap hit pieces.

Skeptics are usually quite harmless. But this show is not skepticism, it's a war on anything that basically goes in a direction of any progress, which is quite telling in itself.
"

I think that qualifies as you needing to lighten up..

Also, I asked if there was a show that irked you the most. What conclusions have you disagreed with the most? Or do you just think that they're 100% wrong on everything?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Why on earth would you defend penn and teller like it's a serious thing? Are you wacked or something?

you can't support penn and teller and be academic at the same time cause that's impossible.

You asking me what political thing or show I disagreed with. That would be like asking me after the circus show which red nosed clown was right and wrong when they were fighting.

Since it's a made up act. I'm only going to study it as a piece of propaganda, like the fantasy show it is, not actually debate with them, because it's not a debate it's a hit piece on whatever subject they do.
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In other words, you can't give me a specific example.


As for why I would defend Penn and Teller? I'm basically just responding to a thread on a message forum.....that you started :)
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look at him in this animation.

stfu

He is full on fighting like in a serious way. hahaha.

So he's trying to achieve something, but with a combination of techniques.

in this instance we are to be intimidated by him pointing at us cause of his authority. lmao.
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I like to know the enemy. I listen to Penn's Sunday School Podcast.
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Are you mad lady?

lighten up? I been laughing my head off at it. Just cause I don't agree with you don't mean I'm not laughing at it.

And yes, their show is overall fantasy, they don't make good points at all, their conclusions are based on their own biased pre-conceived idea that they have an agenda to have haha. how can it possibly be neutral? You got to get real at some point.

and that's the point trying to hide behind the banner of comedy does not escape the fact they are trying to debate something, with basically trick photography and unfair hit pieces that border on deceptive.

That is so no plausible. And you would have to be brain dead to think it is plausible, or in any context scientific, or in any context academic.

I've never seen someone try to be funny, and with magic tricks, while trying to be a journalist, while trying to look scientific.

It's just ridiculous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Your first two statements in this thread that you created..

"These guys would have to be the worst I've seen in terms of cheap hit pieces.

Skeptics are usually quite harmless. But this show is not skepticism, it's a war on anything that basically goes in a direction of any progress, which is quite telling in itself.
"

I think that qualifies as you needing to lighten up..

Also, I asked if there was a show that irked you the most. What conclusions have you disagreed with the most? Or do you just think that they're 100% wrong on everything?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Why on earth would you defend penn and teller like it's a serious thing? Are you wacked or something?

you can't support penn and teller and be academic at the same time cause that's impossible.

You asking me what political thing or show I disagreed with. That would be like asking me after the circus show which red nosed clown was right and wrong when they were fighting.

Since it's a made up act. I'm only going to study it as a piece of propaganda, like the fantasy show it is, not actually debate with them, because it's not a debate it's a hit piece on whatever subject they do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


In other words, you can't give me a specific example.


As for why I would defend Penn and Teller? I'm basically just responding to a thread on a message forum.....that you started :)
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You are starting to get argumentative now even haha.

you sound irritated by the thread though, and you wanted to debate me on one of their shows loll.

the purpose of the thread is I'm going to make an analysis on their videos. I'm not getting specific until we look at the actual videos.
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Your first two statements in this thread that you created..

"These guys would have to be the worst I've seen in terms of cheap hit pieces.

Skeptics are usually quite harmless. But this show is not skepticism, it's a war on anything that basically goes in a direction of any progress, which is quite telling in itself.
"

I think that qualifies as you needing to lighten up..

Also, I asked if there was a show that irked you the most. What conclusions have you disagreed with the most? Or do you just think that they're 100% wrong on everything?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Why on earth would you defend penn and teller like it's a serious thing? Are you wacked or something?

you can't support penn and teller and be academic at the same time cause that's impossible.

You asking me what political thing or show I disagreed with. That would be like asking me after the circus show which red nosed clown was right and wrong when they were fighting.

Since it's a made up act. I'm only going to study it as a piece of propaganda, like the fantasy show it is, not actually debate with them, because it's not a debate it's a hit piece on whatever subject they do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


In other words, you can't give me a specific example.


As for why I would defend Penn and Teller? I'm basically just responding to a thread on a message forum.....that you started :)
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You are starting to get argumentative now even haha.

you sound irritated by the thread though, and you wanted to debate me on one of their shows loll.

the purpose of the thread is I'm going to make an analysis on their videos. I'm not getting specific until we look at the actual videos.
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Nope :) Just shooting the shit on a message board in a thread you created. But it sounds as if you want to just rant rather than discuss so, rant away. Cheers!

cheers
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this thread is like buried even though i recently posted it's not viewable on the first 10 pages even.


I noticed that only the political irrelevant threads ever get pinned too. Like no decent spiritual or decent threads ever get pinned at all.

I see loads of good threads that never get pinned and all the pinned ones I never even hardly click on! due to irrelevance.

The thing that's really revealing is you don't vote to pin a thread, so you never actually get the threads people want pinned. You only get whoever is in charge of the site their agenda pinned.

hahahahah

so that's obviously biased.

I've never even once clicked on the news posted on the left there. It's all things I'm not even interested in.

yet the people that post here, they have the real content that keeps you coming back.
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Why on earth would you defend penn and teller like it's a serious thing? Are you wacked or something?

you can't support penn and teller and be academic at the same time cause that's impossible.

You asking me what political thing or show I disagreed with. That would be like asking me after the circus show which red nosed clown was right and wrong when they were fighting.

Since it's a made up act. I'm only going to study it as a piece of propaganda, like the fantasy show it is, not actually debate with them, because it's not a debate it's a hit piece on whatever subject they do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


In other words, you can't give me a specific example.


As for why I would defend Penn and Teller? I'm basically just responding to a thread on a message forum.....that you started :)
 Quoting: Monk Meat


You are starting to get argumentative now even haha.

you sound irritated by the thread though, and you wanted to debate me on one of their shows loll.

the purpose of the thread is I'm going to make an analysis on their videos. I'm not getting specific until we look at the actual videos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16398850


Nope :) Just shooting the shit on a message board in a thread you created. But it sounds as if you want to just rant rather than discuss so, rant away. Cheers!

cheers
 Quoting: Monk Meat


you don't fool me lady, with fake cheers and fake smiles.

It's not just a rant it's also I'm making valid points with it. Like the thread has a specific purpose to point out that penn and teller are not who they claim they are.

and I can do that by discussing their videos another day when I have more time.
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That penn dude is a big reptilian draco gone full retard
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Those guys are NWO shills who suck Satan's cock HARD

The "insert pic" here on GLP w/ Penn saying "STFU" is from one of his hit jobs against 9/11 truthers

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