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they've got a sneaky trick they use that's very effective. first they will promote the very excellent writings of the church reformers of the 16th century and the puritans of the 17th century, and then once you become part of their church they switch it for occult propaganda.
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we know who is whom

lol

there is no hiding the fact

all is as it should be at this moment in time

regardless

these are to serve as examples for those who as yet have no affiliation

with either darkness or light
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Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE (Page 3)

Why do people accept the words of a mere man as if they were spoken by God?

Everyone needs to stop listening to Paul as if he speaks for Christ once and for all.
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You are calling God a liar when God says all scripture is given by God (2 Tim. 3:16) and that every word is pure (Prov. 30:5).

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. (Mark 3:29)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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According to those same scriptures the author of 2 Tim. and Gal. is described as having a murderous heart and is a self-professed deceiver for Christ sake post conversion. Yet you choose to believe his words as if God spoke them.

God's Word is pure and that became my first clue he wasn't speaking through Paul. A mountain of evidence followed and continues to grow higher that we should trust Jesus not Paul with nothing in the scriptures to say otherwise unless of course its Paul himself.

So in the name of free will continue doing the Lord's work, passing judgement and loudly proclaiming others in league with Satan while never looking inwardly knowing you are perfectly saved by your faith just as Paul has instructed. I mean as long as there seems to be no stopping you anyhow.

You can choose Jesus or Paul. Not both.
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Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE (Page 3)

Why do people accept the words of a mere man as if they were spoken by God?

Everyone needs to stop listening to Paul as if he speaks for Christ once and for all.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic



You are calling God a liar when God says all scripture is given by God (2 Tim. 3:16) and that every word is pure (Prov. 30:5).

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. (Mark 3:29)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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According to those same scriptures the author of 2 Tim. and Gal. is described as having a murderous heart and is a self-professed deceiver for Christ sake post conversion. Yet you choose to believe his words as if God spoke them.

God's Word is pure and that became my first clue he wasn't speaking through Paul. A mountain of evidence followed and continues to grow higher that we should trust Jesus not Paul with nothing in the scriptures to say otherwise unless of course its Paul himself.

So in the name of free will continue doing the Lord's work, passing judgement and loudly proclaiming others in league with Satan while never looking inwardly knowing you are perfectly saved by your faith just as Paul has instructed. I mean as long as there seems to be no stopping you anyhow.

You can choose Jesus or Paul. Not both.
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God gave man God's perfectly preserved word in the King James Bible so that
everyone can read and understand it, without needing wicked deceivers to
reinterpret and edit it for them.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Tim. 3:16)

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but
by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matt. 4:4)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but
holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Pet. 1:20-21)

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city,
and from the things which are written in this book. (Rev. 22:19)
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Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE (Page 3)

Why do people accept the words of a mere man as if they were spoken by God?

Everyone needs to stop listening to Paul as if he speaks for Christ once and for all.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic



You are calling God a liar when God says all scripture is given by God (2 Tim. 3:16) and that every word is pure (Prov. 30:5).

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. (Mark 3:29)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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According to those same scriptures the author of 2 Tim. and Gal. is described as having a murderous heart and is a self-professed deceiver for Christ sake post conversion. Yet you choose to believe his words as if God spoke them.

God's Word is pure and that became my first clue he wasn't speaking through Paul. A mountain of evidence followed and continues to grow higher that we should trust Jesus not Paul with nothing in the scriptures to say otherwise unless of course its Paul himself.

So in the name of free will continue doing the Lord's work, passing judgement and loudly proclaiming others in league with Satan while never looking inwardly knowing you are perfectly saved by your faith just as Paul has instructed. I mean as long as there seems to be no stopping you anyhow.

You can choose Jesus or Paul. Not both.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic

God gave man God's perfectly preserved word in the King James Bible so that
everyone can read and understand it, without needing wicked deceivers to
reinterpret and edit it for them.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Tim. 3:16)

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but
by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Matt. 4:4)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but
holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Pet. 1:20-21)

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city,
and from the things which are written in this book. (Rev. 22:19)

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While there are those who believe Paul is a False Apostle and might claim the Bible needs to be edited I myself am not among them. I view the King James Bible as a complete work and Paul's role in it as a means to fulfill prophecy. What is required to see this is objectively viewing the work as a whole.

Judge not lest ye be judged. What never occurs to almost all so far as I can tell is that warning also applies to judging others to be holy as well as evil. With Paul we find the ultimate example of that error on the holy side with Jesus' supposed followers revering Paul's epistles (letters) as if they were commands directly from God.

Is it so for fetched to believe God gave equal time to His adversary in His own Holy Book to prove His point once and for all?

:the outcome of trusting any other than His appointed messenger is pure folly.

In the New Testament we find God's teachings through His first begotten along side the instructions and interpretations by His main Adversary. Which do you suppose we choose?

'he would fool even the elect if it were possible'

Revelations is the outcome of having chose the latter. IMHO most of the horrors described in the Revelations to St. John have already happened. What's major to be played out are the thousand years of Christ's reign and a giant stone being thrown into the sea after the enemy has been released from the bottomless pit.

me/shrugs

The kingdom of heaven is at hand...

what remains is that all should live as if it were so
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With Paul we find the ultimate example of that error on the holy side with Jesus' supposed followers revering Paul's epistles (letters) as if they were commands directly from God.
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Tim. 3:16)

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but
holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Pet. 1:21)

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. (2 Pet. 1:20)

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Prov. 30:6)

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city,
and from the things which are written in this book. (Rev. 22:19)
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seventh day adventists are a satanic cult
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seventh day adventists are a satanic cult
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Well, according to your rather broad definition of a satanic cult, I would agree if they follow Paul's commands as if they came from the mouth of God. BTW, what Satanic cult do you belong to? Wouldn't be the RCC would it?

'he would fool even the elect if it were possible'

Go ahead and quote second Timothy one more time. The irony of using Paul to paradoxically re-enforce his own words as being Holy never grows old.
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Me thinks the OP has a gigantic plank stuck in their own eye whilst trying to work on the the tiny sliver of the SDA.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic

As a denier of Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14), and therefore a lying
antichrist as reproved by God (1 John 2:22), it is no wonder that you imagine the
SDA cult, which is in fellowship with satan's UN, as having a 'tiny sliver' in their
eye.


Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE (Page 3)

Why do people accept the words of a mere man as if they were spoken by God?

Everyone needs to stop listening to Paul as if he speaks for Christ once and for all.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic

All scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim. 3:16)

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt (Ps. 14:1)
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Pure eh

2 Kings 18:27
Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Ezekiel 23:20
For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Habakkuk 2:16
Drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered.

Malachi 2:3
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.



Matthew , Chapter 5
Jesus says that "Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Luke 12:20 But God said to him, You fool!
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seventh day adventists are a satanic cult
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Well, according to your rather broad definition of a satanic cult, I would agree if they follow Paul's commands as if they came from the mouth of God. BTW, what Satanic cult do you belong to? Wouldn't be the RCC would it?

'he would fool even the elect if it were possible'

Go ahead and quote second Timothy one more time. The irony of using Paul to paradoxically re-enforce his own words as being Holy never grows old.
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I belong to Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14).

The sda cult denies the existence of a literal hell.

Blasphemy.
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Me thinks the OP has a gigantic plank stuck in their own eye whilst trying to work on the the tiny sliver of the SDA.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic

As a denier of Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14), and therefore a lying
antichrist as reproved by God (1 John 2:22), it is no wonder that you imagine the
SDA cult, which is in fellowship with satan's UN, as having a 'tiny sliver' in their
eye.


Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE (Page 3)

Why do people accept the words of a mere man as if they were spoken by God?

Everyone needs to stop listening to Paul as if he speaks for Christ once and for all.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic

All scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim. 3:16)

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt (Ps. 14:1)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491



Pure eh

2 Kings 18:27
Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Ezekiel 23:20
For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Habakkuk 2:16
Drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered.

Malachi 2:3
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.



Matthew , Chapter 5
Jesus says that "Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Luke 12:20 But God said to him, You fool!
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Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's
clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the
thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding
? (Isa. 29:16)

I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have
stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. (Isa. 45:12)

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his
commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. (Eccl. 12:13)
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I belong to Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14).

The sda cult denies the existence of a literal hell.

Blasphemy.
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Blasphemy?

Leaving aside the fact that such a belief doesn't even approach a rational use of the term, if you had been listening to the living word instead of Paul you would realize that is not your call to make.

Ever

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Me thinks the OP has a gigantic plank stuck in their own eye whilst trying to work on the the tiny sliver of the SDA.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic

As a denier of Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14), and therefore a lying
antichrist as reproved by God (1 John 2:22), it is no wonder that you imagine the
SDA cult, which is in fellowship with satan's UN, as having a 'tiny sliver' in their
eye.


Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE (Page 3)

Why do people accept the words of a mere man as if they were spoken by God?

Everyone needs to stop listening to Paul as if he speaks for Christ once and for all.
 Quoting: Raymantheheretic

All scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim. 3:16)

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt (Ps. 14:1)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491



Pure eh

2 Kings 18:27
Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Ezekiel 23:20
For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Habakkuk 2:16
Drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered.

Malachi 2:3
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.



Matthew , Chapter 5
Jesus says that "Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Luke 12:20 But God said to him, You fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29286893

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's
clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the
thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding
? (Isa. 29:16)

I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have
stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. (Isa. 45:12)

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his
commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. (Eccl. 12:13)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491


People regard the Ten Commandments as simply basic behavioral rules that God expects of everyone, then of course they will expect everyone to follow them. What these people tend to miss, however, is that this is not how the Jews originally understood the Ten Commandments. Instead, the Ten Commandments were regarded as behavioral rules for Jews — the chosen people. They weren’t commandments for everyone else.


God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8




Judging of others forbidden
Matt 7:1,2
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I find it rather ironic that the very church we try to warn the rest of the world about (Roman Catholic), laughs at most of the Protestant world as following the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church (knowingly and unknowingly) and points out that ONLY the SDA church truly is Sola Scriptura (Bible Alone). The rest of the Protestant world keeps Sunday (a creation of the RC), believes in the Trinity (another Catholic creation with Mary recently being mentioned as one of the Trinity), and a multitude of other things including ceremonies. If we are really a cult, then we have lots of company.
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topope

Give ya a little back up on that commentary, bro :)
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There is nowhere in the bible where it says "Christians must observe Saturday." If you think there is, please quote it.
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Um ... the 4th commandment, dude. :/
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org]
Real men keep Torah.
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Understand "the wages of sin is death" but by grace we are saved. Grace is forgiveness of sin or that we may continue in sin such as observing the wrong day of worship. The only way to get grace is by repenting, and repenting means to sin no more. No repenting, no grace.
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where does the bible say, 'It is wrong to worship on this day'?

it is quite okay to worship on any day.
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God sanctified the 7th-day. It is God's Sabbath. He is Lord of the Sabbath.

Dont complicate the issue as if we are not Christian every day.
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Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his disciples
doing the same. John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5
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Actually, he NEVER broke Shabbat. What he was railing against and DID break were the laws of men. The rules of the "Oral Torah" what is now known as the Talmud.

So much confusion over the average person's inability to learn the distinction between Torah and Talmud.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org]
Real men keep Torah.
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Stop relying on religion and man. Yeshua said to follow Him.
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There is nowhere in the bible where it says "Christians must observe Saturday." If you think there is, please quote it.
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Um ... the 4th commandment, dude. :/
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


There is a spiritual sabbath (rest) that we are to enter, which Yeshua taught. Religion and tradition blinds people to this fact.

Being totally in His will under His direct guidance is the Rest, the true Sabbath. That is what the Promised Land and the Sabbath of physical Israel symbolized. The symbols are the shadow of the future, not the future itself. Religion and practices will never let you rest in Him, for those are works of man's ideas or his clinging to the old covenant, not by His Holy Spirit.
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adventist are one of the most wonderful people that ive met. they are down to earth and respectful. a lot of them love to serve the community by helping the poor and sick. ADRA, their relief agency helps about 25 million a year. from what i saw they like to emphasize that man should follow christ, help the community and try to live a healthy lifestyle. where i live there's a whole bunch of them, here in loma linda, and ive seen nothing but nice things from them.

here is a documentary made recently on the adventists



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Very much my own experience as well. In my time running around trying to find the path that suited my faith (or for a while the lack thereof) I've found in my research that denominations tend to have their areas where they have more "expertise" for lack of a better word.

For example, if I want to have an interesting discussion about Daniel and Revelation prophecy, I'll sit down and talk with a well read SDA member. If I want to discuss baptism and Puritan-esque lifestyle obedience, I'll sit down with a Baptist. I want to know more about Torah observance, I'll find a Messianic or Kaarite Jewish dude and so on.

While many have made VERY accurate observations concerning the faults spread around among denominations, few seem to look for the gold in the silt. I choose to take away bits and pieces of each group's wisdom until such a time as I feel comfortable that I've finally got all the bells and whistles down from cover to cover.

I suspect that many here need to take a second look at how much they adhere to Paul's views and opinions from his personal letters vs the words of the Son and the edicts of the Father. But that's just my own personal ax to grind, nothing I'd ever try to force upon another.
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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There is nowhere in the bible where it says "Christians must observe Saturday." If you think there is, please quote it.
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Um ... the 4th commandment, dude. :/
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


There is a spiritual sabbath (rest) that we are to enter, which Yeshua taught. Religion and tradition blinds people to this fact.

Being totally in His will under His direct guidance is the Rest, the true Sabbath. That is what the Promised Land and the Sabbath of physical Israel symbolized. The symbols are the shadow of the future, not the future itself. Religion and practices will never let you rest in Him, for those are works of man's ideas or his clinging to the old covenant, not by His Holy Spirit.
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I can find no fault in your posting. Indeed, they are a shadow picture of things to come. However, I could argue that much is lost on your average Christian simply because they do no honor, observe or even familiarize themselves with the 7 high feasts.

Without these, most don't even really understand what shadow picture has been fulfilled, what will be fulfilled nor the deeper meanings contained within it.

It really IS a beautiful system once you get into it. At least, IMO, anyway.
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As a denier of Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14), and therefore a lying
antichrist as reproved by God (1 John 2:22), it is no wonder that you imagine the
SDA cult, which is in fellowship with satan's UN, as having a 'tiny sliver' in their
eye.


...

All scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim. 3:16)

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt (Ps. 14:1)
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Pure eh

2 Kings 18:27
Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Ezekiel 23:20
For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Habakkuk 2:16
Drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered.

Malachi 2:3
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces.



Matthew , Chapter 5
Jesus says that "Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Luke 12:20 But God said to him, You fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29286893

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's
clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the
thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding
? (Isa. 29:16)

I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have
stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. (Isa. 45:12)

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his
commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. (Eccl. 12:13)
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People regard the Ten Commandments as simply basic behavioral rules that God expects of everyone, then of course they will expect everyone to follow them. What these people tend to miss, however, is that this is not how the Jews originally understood the Ten Commandments. Instead, the Ten Commandments were regarded as behavioral rules for Jews — the chosen people. They weren’t commandments for everyone else.


God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8




Judging of others forbidden
Matt 7:1,2
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I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word
hath no place in you. (John 8:37)

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
(John 7:24)

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt
thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye
. (Matt. 7:5)

Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things
which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. (Titus 1:11)

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound
in the faith. (Titus 1:13)


God, the Word (John 1:1), is the only judge, and Christians are to preach God
(2 Tim. 4:2-5) without shame (Mark 8:38).

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that
obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished
with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the
glory of his power (2 Thess. 1:8-9)
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Stop relying on religion and man. Yeshua said to follow Him.
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God is the Word (John 1:1). All of it.
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Happy Sabboth Brothers and Sisters
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I belong to Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14).

The sda cult denies the existence of a literal hell.

Blasphemy.
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Blasphemy?

Leaving aside the fact that such a belief doesn't even approach a rational use of the term, if you had been listening to the living word instead of Paul you would realize that is not your call to make.

Ever
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God's Word is all that matters.

To deny the existence of a literal hell is to deny God's Word. Elevating oneself
above God is blasphemy (Mark 3:29), which you continue to shamelessly
engage in by proclaiming certain portions of the Bible to be unreliable and not
of God.

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be
weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matt. 25:30)

And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and
gnashing of teeth. (Matt. 13:50)

And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the
kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. (Mark 9:47-48)


Hell is the terrifying wrath of a Holy God against evil (2 Thess. 1:8-9, Rev. 14:11, Heb. 10:31).

And the sda cult denies God (John 1:1) because to them, the terrible wrath of
a Holy God is inconsistent with the Christ they've created in their own mind,
and their own personal idea of what constitutes a 'loving' god.
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Shabbat shalom, Rayati. :)
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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you religotards are all out of your fucking minds no matter what the hell you call your believe.Pretty simple, find another website to produce your reigo crap or Im aborting this once excellent website.Doom on religofucks.
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God's Word is all that matters.

To deny the existence of a literal hell is to deny God's Word. Elevating oneself
above God is blasphemy (Mark 3:29), which you continue to shamelessly
engage in by proclaiming certain portions of the Bible to be unreliable and not
of God.

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be
weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matt. 25:30)

And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and
gnashing of teeth. (Matt. 13:50)

And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the
kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. (Mark 9:47-48)


Hell is the terrifying wrath of a Holy God against evil (2 Thess. 1:8-9, Rev. 14:11, Heb. 10:31).

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7254491




Jesus then explained in plain language when hellfire will be - at the end of the world.


Matthew 13:36-43 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came to him, saying, Declare to us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said to them, He that sows the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who has ears to hear, let him hear.

This fire that burns the wicked/tares is said to be at the end of the world. This is later mentioned again in Revelation.

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them...14 This is the second death. And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;


the wages of sin is death, not eternal torture. The sun cult in Rome spread the false doctrine of the immortal soul to support their 'Virgin Mary' & Church.


There is no immortality before the Second Coming.
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Happy Sabbath to those who relish a happy Sabbath. To those who do not, may the Lord bless you richly and lead you into ALL truth. To the OP, my challenge still stands. Come out behind your AC and stand on what you DO believe and who your stance is with. You make some good statements. You also make some seemingly deliberate incorrect statements that are obviously wrong. For example, we SDA's DO believe in a hellfire. We just don't believe in an EVERLASTING hellfire. That doctrine was hatched in the bowels of Jesuit theology by Vatican direction. The Bible CLEARLY states that there is a lake of fire. Its EFFECTS are everlasting--and INCLUDES both death and HELL itself. The concept of everlasting punishment is a creation of Satan, himself, because it is what HE would do if he could ever get the ascendency over Jehovah. It is a HORRIBLE idea and paints the most horrendous picture of God possible.

It never ceases to amaze me how the Lord works. He will even use our enemies to lead others to truth. How amazing is that. In spite of the disinformation on this thread, it has led those who are seeking to know the truth to checking it out for themselves and finding that that it is not what is portrayed by those who are offended by SDA teachings. I don't know about others, but I DO know that if someone is putting down someone or something else for other than what THEY believe, I have to check it out for myself and make my own decision about it. If my faith is so weak that I cannot study for myself to discern the truth, then I have no faith at all. I've studied all the religions and read all of their religious writings--even those who would qualify for a "Satanic label".

God's people are in ALL walks of life--including athiests and agnostics. No one is excluded from God's grace, and not one of us can see the heart like our Father does. God forbid that we should ever try to usurp His loving ways and replace them with our finite and fallible understanding. He is not willing that even one person perish. How could I believe otherwise. I am the chiefest of sinners. I DESERVE TO DIE. But HE has placed HIS robe of righteousness upon me and called me son. HE has led me to the fountain of living waters and restored my soul. I dp not keep Sabbath because of what the SDA church teaches or even what the Bible teaches. I keep it because of who is IN IT--the Lord of creation. I "keep" it in the same way that we are to "keep the feet of the Saints". There are many things that we are to "keep". All of them are for our own admonition. All of them benefit us and others by HIM blessing us with it. The Sabbath, to us, is a breath of fresh air in a totally polluted environment. It is an acknowledgement by us that HE is Lord of our lives--as alien as the experience was to worship on a Saturday--and it WAS very alien to me....until the Lord spoke. I have never looked back since and I will gladly stand with my brethren to boldly proclaim it until we see our Savior coming in the clouds of Heaven. Though HE slay me, yet will I trust in Him.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
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There is nowhere in the bible where it says "Christians must observe Saturday." If you think there is, please quote it.
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Um ... the 4th commandment, dude. :/
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Note that you didn't quote it. The word "Christians" appears nowhere in the ten commandments.
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Note that you didn't quote it. The word "Christians" appears nowhere in the ten commandments.
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God is the same today and yesterday, forever. The Sabbath was from creation. Cain MURDERED Abel? Satan LIED to Eve? They were all there.

Then in Exodus God reminded His people of His law. God's law was restated by Jesus and found throughout the NT books. Nowhere does it say they are done away with, as you imply.
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You are very refreshing. I had thought that we had lost our cult status when certain members of our church decided that we should join the mainstream of other religions by repudiating doctrines that the religious world had a hard time accepting. Since that time, our church has lost its "distinctive flavor" and is looking more and more like the rest of the religious world.

I find it rather ironic that the very church we try to warn the rest of the world about (Roman Catholic), laughs at most of the Protestant world as following the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church (knowingly and unknowingly) and points out that ONLY the SDA church truly is Sola Scriptura (Bible Alone). The rest of the Protestant world keeps Sunday (a creation of the RC), believes in the Trinity (another Catholic creation with Mary recently being mentioned as one of the Trinity), and a multitude of other things including ceremonies. If we are really a cult, then we have lots of company.

We have been teaching for over a hundred and fifty years that the entire Protestant world will unite with Catholicism (and many other offshoot "cults") and become indistinct from one another. This is currently going on now like I have NEVER seen it in my 67 years. It is as common to see a priest, along with other "charismatic" religionists, speak in "unknown tongues", do faith healing, have communion together (god wafer), and a bunch of other ungodly things. Even the OP calls the Law of God as Holy, but is rejecting the fourth Commandment of keeping the Sabbath holy. He nor anyone can show the Sabbath being done away with, yet feels perfectly comfortable disregarding the commandment altogether. It is only one step away from doing the same that The RC has done--namely, removing the commandment about worshipping idols. I grew up in the RC church and I know the kind of pressure put upon us to do as others are doing--namely, genuflecting whenever faced with a statue of a "holy" person or icon or any representation of things in heaven.

I am proudly a Seventh Day Adventist and I know that my church has its shortcomings. I have tried every way possible to disprove the teachings because they did not agree with the garbage I was taught growing up. In every single case, I have found myself proven wrong--joyfully. As an evangelist, I have found BEAUTIFUL people in all walks of life in every religion--including, of course, RC's. Even among non-believers and downright rude and crude people (including people who have killed other people), I have found precious souls. Many times, I have led people to attend other churches than the SDA. Some are simply not ready to receive the in-your-face truth. Some still need milk and cannot commit to a complete change in the life that true Christianity demands: "Be ye perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect." "Faith without works is dead." "Not one jot or tittle" shall change or be taken away from the Law. I believe what God says implicitly. Man's customs and traditions just do not cut it for me. For me it is "thus sayeth the Lord" or nothing. I have tried to disprove Ellen White just as I did the Bible. Again, in every single instance I was proven wrong. She CONSTANTLY points to the Bible and the Bible alone as the foundation. She has consistenly shown that HER WRITINGS are NEVER to be used in any Biblical debate. The FINAL authority is always the Scriptures and any SDA who tries to use HER as the authority without understanding the Scriptures are, in a word, a cult. This can be said of any church or body of believers or of any individual. Blanket statements by anyone on anyone are just simply ignorant. Our battle is "not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers and wickedness in high places..." If just one person was persecuted unfairly by these blanket statements, then the person making those statements (even ignorantly) can be held responsible for that person's blood. That's scriptural.
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Everything you said is 100% the truth! I grew up Baptist, but through a series of miracles that could have only came from God, He lead me to the Seventh Day Adventist Church, and I had never even heard of them at all in my life beforehand. I love the SDA church because most of the people who are there all came out of another denomination that was teaching false doctrine, just wanting to follow Jesus and the Bible 100%! If it is a cult, then PRAISE GOD for sending me there! My life has never been the same since I joined in 1996! You're right, Ellen White herself pointed people to the Bible as the sole source of truth. Her writings always lead me to the Bible and into deeper communion with Jesus. They way you said it all was beautiful. Thank you!

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