seventh day adventists are a satanic cult

God sanctified the 7th-day. It is God's Sabbath. He is Lord of the Sabbath.

Dont complicate the issue as if we are not Christian every day.

Here is some of what God commanded the Israelites about the sabbath:

12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee.

13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:

14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.

15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
(Deuteronomy 5:12-15)


Please note these important details:

* God commanded the Israelites to keep the sabbath, because He rescued them from slavery in Egypt. Nowhere in that passage did God say anything about what Christians should do.

* Nowhere in that passage did God say "Christians must go to church on the sabbath". God said Israelites must stay home and not work on the sabbath. Not the same thing at all.

* Nowhere in that passage did God say "Christians must not go to church on sunday". There is nothing about sunday at all in that passage.

God commanded the Israelites to stay home and not work on the sabbath. God did not command the Christians to go to church on saturday and refrain from going to church on sunday.

God commanded the Israelites to do a lot of other things regarding the sabbath, such as executing people who break the sabbath, for example. Do you execute sabbath-breakers? Or do you think "Go to church on saturday" is a good enougn approximation to what God commanded the Israelites to do?

You can't focus on one detail "what day is the sabbath" and ignore all the other details, such as "who did God command to keep the sabbath", "why did He command them to keep the sabbath", "what did He command them to do on the sabbath".

Nowhere in the ten commandments or anywhere else in the bible did God command "Christians must go to church on saturday".

Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his disciples
doing the same. John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5

There are a lot of Christian denominations in error about many doctrines, that does not make them 'satanic'. They may have been founded by agents of satan but the Christians within are just misled like most others.

You say:

Eph 2:8 "For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"

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Understand "the wages of sin is death" but by grace we are saved. Grace is forgiveness of sin. This doesnt mean we do not need baptism. The verse doesnt say that and no doctrine is built upon any one verse.

Jesus set the example for his new followers with baptism that symbolizes the coming resurrection.
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"Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." John 3:5

"He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned." Mark 16:16.

"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. ... knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." Romans 6:4-6
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The Israelites were God's people coming out of Egypt. There were no Christians at the time. The Israelites were being reminded of God's law. God's 10C law has been from creation where God rested the 7th day. This was before there was any Israel. Noah kept the law; Abraham kept the law. All God's people follow God's law.


Jesus then told us in the NT to continue to observe God's 10C law.

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Mt.19:16 "And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. He said to him, Which?
Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

The disciple asked, which law, not knowing if Jesus meant the law of Moses or God's 10C law. Then Jesus names a few to explain God's law which law.


Mt.5:19 Whoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Im not defending Ellen White, only the doctrines of the SDAs, most I find biblical.

SDA dont use female pastors at this point. Ellen was said to be a prophet, not a pastor. There are examples of OT female prophets God used. Although Ellen White and other SDA founder were wrong about a couple of doctrines (Earth Beast & Sunday Laws) most of what are in her books was just common Christian well understood theology of the day, since lost by most of Christianity.

Anyone that teaches that salvation is by anything other than grace through faith in Christ (Rom. 10:9-10, 13, Gal. 2:21, Eph. 2:8-9) is satanic according to God (John 8:37-44).

Kolbrin would be a gnostic text without any Christian support. We have all the Christian books in the Bible.

The Israelites were God's people coming out of Egypt. There were no Christians at the time. The Israelites were being reminded of God's law. God's 10C law has been from creation where God rested the 7th day. This was before there was any Israel. Noah kept the law; Abraham kept the law. All God's people follow God's law.

SDA churches absolutely utilize female pastors. Talk about polluting the Lord's sabbath by supplicating to a woman preaching the gospel.

Pretty good dialogue going on here. I am thankful for most of the comments and make no judgements at all on either the charges made against the SDA church or its founder Ellen White and her husband James white. As a very real matter of fact, Ellen White correctly foretold the state of the church today as it stands. As one poster stated, there are many churches which call themselves SDA, but have never heard or discuss the writings of Ellen White. I try my best to understand what even the staunchest of critics say and why they feel the way they do. Quite frankly, I have looked over the material posted and checked the links to see if there was anything there that I have not seen before. Again, quite frankly, I was disappointed at the scholarship involved. I just found mostly grasping at straws.

Unless nobody has really noticed, the entire world is falling into apostasy. A whole bunch of "reformed" SDA's are calling for the same thing as the OP--"come out of her my people". They think themselves enlightened and make judgement upon them, and I can fully understand why. Most simply do not want to be looked upon as "fringe" or cultic and they certainly do not want to experience tribulation. For many, their 'gods' have become their health message, the Sabbath question, doctrinal differences, vegetarianism, and a number of other things. I still love them dearly just as I do many of other denominations, and I fully expect many of them to respond to the "straight and true testimony" called forth by the True Witness to the Laodiceans which represents lukewarmness in ALL the churches on earth in these last days of earth's history.

The enemy of souls has had a field day with the SDA church. There are champions of God there just as there are everywhere. God has His agents throughout the world and in the palaces and courts and political institutions, holding back the tide of evil untill all things are in place. There are many "sighing and crying for all the abominations in the earth--not the least being our own beloved church. Who do you think Satan will FIRST send his agents to? To those churches who are already under his control. No, he will try to subjugate God's people who are SEEKING to do God's will and have not fallen to Satan's delusions and deceptions. As the Lord said to Elijah in his darkest hour, He still has His 7000 who have not bowed to Baal. He was not alone and neither are we. As the OP stated, all of Ellen White's writings are there for anyone to read at their leisure for free. I have read ALL of it over the last 40 years, and I am the most critical reader of anything. She has done nothing but open the scriptures to me in wonderful beauty. Mock on you soldiers of the cross if that is what is called from you. I have studied every religion on earth over these last 40 years, and I have come away wanting until I found a book completely by "accident" which filled every yearning in my soul for truth. Did the church fill my need? Absolutely not. We cannot trust in the "arm of man"--however enlightened he may appear to be. We cannot make blanket statements about New Age thinking any more than we can about anything else. Just because similar language is used does not make us New Agers. Most of what Ellen White wrote was in the 1800's. Because someone picks it up and uses the same words such as "Mother Earth", it does not make the original writer New Age. The "proof" of her "witchcraft" is very poor at best, and outright lies at worst. In all that I have read and seen, she was just a very humble woman who had several children and only one man in her entire life. She dressed VERY conservatively, and donated untold millions from her writings to hospitals, sanitariums, churches (many of which she raised herself), and untold amounts of money to needy people throughout the world--often right out of the blue and at exactly the moment it was needed. This was all at a time when there were no "writeoffs" or tax deductions for charity. No amount of mockery can change that. She was the most prolific writer in history (either male or female), traveled the entire world and established churches all over the world that still stand today--often facing adversity which would wilt most of us. This is my story and I will gladly stand with the people of God when the enemy comes to destroy us.

Christians are a fucking Satanic cult. They avoid any real critical thinking and deny god's blessings in the form of psychoactive plants. You cannot know christ unless you die and are saved. . . Through the ego death that psychedelics provide.

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. (Genesis 3:1)

Many satanic cults teach biblical doctrines, but slip in just a few of their father's lies making them corrupt.

Rat poison is 99% food, and 1% poision, yet it's sufficient to kill the consumer.

SDA churches absolutely utilize female pastors. Talk about polluting the Lord's sabbath by supplicating to a woman preaching the gospel.

Op you are far more "subtil" than any of us are. You are telling outright lies (or somebody else's lies) In my 40 years in the church, I have not seen one female preacher. I have heard that some "reformed" churches may have them or some of the fringe elements. I think that most of what you are saying is just hearsay. Why not stop being an anonymous coward and come out into the open and tell us who YOU are. It's easy to talk crap as an AC. We are trying our best to "reason together" as the Scriptures tell us to do--even with God. Where is your love for the sinner that you seem to think that we all are? I have seen all this and "your kind", thinking that they have a monopoly on the truth and push it on others in very unchristian ways as you are doing here. Come out into the open OP. Register your account and really enlighten us to the truth--not just spewing hatred and misinformation. Your "fruits" are self-evident. I believe Mormonism is a cult, but I would never attack them as you are doing. Negative attacks NEVER teach the truth. They only do the bidding of the enemy and lead nobody to Christ. Finger-pointing is certainly not the way of the Gospel. Christ, Himself, was surrounded by apostasy and evil, yet He never raised His voice to condemn. Everything he said and did was always in love--even when rebuking the ones who were preparing to kill Him. Even if EVERYTHING you are saying were possibly the truth (which it definitely is not), you are not a person that I would equate with a true Christian. You pick and choose which Scripture backs up your twisted view, and ignore the context from which it derives. What makes you hate so much that you would twist things in such a way. Are you Catholic? You obviously are not stupid. What is your view on who are "true" Christians? I suspect that you are Jesuit or Jesuit trained. The material you present has been carefully prepared to attack certain pillars of our church and really reveal you in ways you cannot even imagine. Do you think that we are so mindless and without the gifts of the spirt to see through this charade? As I said in my first post, you are refreshing. We must be doing SOMETHING right to bring this vitriol out of you. I don't hate you nor am I angry at you. I don't pity you either nor do I wish you ill and certainly don't see you as Satanic. You are just flesh and blood. One day, you MAY become a tool of Satan simply by your methods of putting down others and placing labels on them.

I see you on very dangerous ground. Come on out into the open. Until you do, this is a dead thread. Tell us how YOU "honor" the Sabbath. Tell us how YOU worship. You are very good at telling us what you do NOT believe. Now tell us what you DO believe and practice. Are you just making excuses for your own refusal to be baptized or follow any Laws? Are you "saved" in your sin? Do you believe that the coming of Jesus will "cleanse" you of your sin? Do you believe that Jesus can save us FROM our sin or while we are yet sinning? Come on OP. Stand up and be counted. Are you afraid to be judged just as you are judging? No matter what YOUR belief is, WE could do the same to you and pick and choose things out of context to disprove anything you believe in. This is Satanic in and of itself. This is the pot calling the kettle black. It has no place in Christianity and is anathema to the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit of God. Mock on. Until you come out, this is just another boring attack. It's all transparent nonsense. Show us the Christ in you. We've already seen the "other" side. You have been weighed in the balance and found wanting. I'm just flesh and blood telling you this. Hearing this from God will be the last thing you will see or hear before you are cast into the Lake of Fire. It is better for a millstone to be wrapped around your neck and cast into the sea than to harm the "least" of these little ones. I am not harmed by you in any way. I take no offense and even give you the benefit of the doubt. If you are truly sincere, come on out into the open. You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk? LIke I've said to many pastors, "I don't want to see YOU on the pulpit. I want to see Jesus." Likewise, I don't want to see you OP. I want to see Jesus. So far, I do not. Show me.

Me thinks the OP has a gigantic plank stuck in their own eye whilst trying to work on the the tiny sliver of the SDA.

Thread: THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A REAL APOSTLE (Page 3)

Why do people accept the words of a mere man as if they were spoken by God?

Everyone needs to stop listening to Paul as if he speaks for Christ once and for all.

Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his disciples
doing the same. John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5

Christians are a fucking Satanic cult. They avoid any real critical thinking and deny god's blessings in the form of psychoactive plants. You cannot know christ unless you die and are saved. . . Through the ego death that psychedelics provide.

As a denier of Jesus Christ, the living Word (John 1:1, 14), and therefore a lying
antichrist as reproved by God (1 John 2:22), it is no wonder that you imagine the
SDA cult, which is in fellowship with satan's UN, as having a 'tiny sliver' in their
eye.



All scripture is given by inspiration of God (2 Tim. 3:16)

Every word of God is pure (Prov. 30:5)

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt (Ps. 14:1)

Denial of Paul as a true Apostle in no way denies Jesus. Paul's letters are not the living Word of Jesus and believing them as so has wrought the evil foretold in Revelations. Look at yourself OP- ignorantly passing blanket judgement on people you know nothing about. Nuff said

for now...

This is true.

And OP they are not satanic. Just misguided.