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I'm in BC and it has been shaking here for weeks. I have never seen it this active in my life. THe Pacific Rim is gonna blow. Just last night after midnight my dog began to howl and he never does that.
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listen to your dog they are smarter then us.My dogs have been on the freak lately infact all my critters been weird but we are in a drought on the very north end of the new madrid.Strange times.
 Quoting: mezroy 20460818


YES! My dog is earthquake sensitive, wakes me up pacing some nights and it took me awhile to connect the dots that those are the nights there are 7+ EQs somewhere in the world. The night of the Japan EQ in 2011 I got no sleep at all, nearly took him to the emergency vet, but that's when I realized what was happening.

Today he has been an absolute WRECK to the point I just gave him a Benadryl to calm the fuck down. I've been home with him all day, he's not sick, things are seemingly peaceful around here, nice weather etc. NO reason he should be whining, hiding, pacing, following me from room to room. Until I read this thread ... damned

Shit happens within 24 hours of the start of this behavior. He started about 10 am Pacific time today.
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That is INCREDIBLE if your dog EVERY SINGLE TIME there has been a 7.0+ quake goes wild.

I find that hard to believe. I guess if there isn't a 7.0 quake in the next 24 hours then it will be the first time the dog has failed the quake test?
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I'm not trying to be a dick, just adding my 2 cents if it can help someone. After the Japan quake I was in touch with a Native American EQ sensitive in Canada, also a woman in Texas, and we tried to coordinate our findings to see if we had a valid EQ prediction system. Of course we didn't, there are too many variables. I do believe the animals are more aware than we are, we just can't always read their signals. Asshole.
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felt it in nyc, very small and twice. I didnt think much of it until i read this post.
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..... "We are talking about the Last Hour." Thereupon, he said: "It will not come until you see ten signs before it, He made a mention of the Smoke, the Dajjal (Anti-Christ), the Daabba, the Rising of the Sun from the West, the Descent of Jesus Son of Mary & (from Heaven), the emergence of Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog & MaGog), and Khusuf (Land Collapses or Landslides) will occur in three places: one in the East, one in the West and one in Arabian Peninsula. At the end, a Fire would burn forth from Yemen (or from Aden .......
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Interesting that you mention the Gulf of Aden, AC. Are aware of all of the quakes that have been happening there in recent weeks & that some are saying that there is a major Portal there? As to OP's original post...I'm near Austin & have been feeling vibrations for a couple of weeks now.
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listen to your dog they are smarter then us.My dogs have been on the freak lately infact all my critters been weird but we are in a drought on the very north end of the new madrid.Strange times.
 Quoting: mezroy 20460818


YES! My dog is earthquake sensitive, wakes me up pacing some nights and it took me awhile to connect the dots that those are the nights there are 7+ EQs somewhere in the world. The night of the Japan EQ in 2011 I got no sleep at all, nearly took him to the emergency vet, but that's when I realized what was happening.

Today he has been an absolute WRECK to the point I just gave him a Benadryl to calm the fuck down. I've been home with him all day, he's not sick, things are seemingly peaceful around here, nice weather etc. NO reason he should be whining, hiding, pacing, following me from room to room. Until I read this thread ... damned

Shit happens within 24 hours of the start of this behavior. He started about 10 am Pacific time today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5542489

That is INCREDIBLE if your dog EVERY SINGLE TIME there has been a 7.0+ quake goes wild.

I find that hard to believe. I guess if there isn't a 7.0 quake in the next 24 hours then it will be the first time the dog has failed the quake test?
 Quoting: endoftimes101


I'm not trying to be a dick, just adding my 2 cents if it can help someone. After the Japan quake I was in touch with a Native American EQ sensitive in Canada, also a woman in Texas, and we tried to coordinate our findings to see if we had a valid EQ prediction system. Of course we didn't, there are too many variables. I do believe the animals are more aware than we are, we just can't always read their signals. Asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5542489


Hey you made the post and the claim

So does your dog do this EVERY SINGLE time there has been a 7.0+ quake?

If so then you will be rich.

I am just asking because you made the claim.

So what is the answer? Does your dog predict every single 7.0+ quake?

If so then I guess we are about to have another one according to your statements.

According to your claim your dog is acting worse than before the big Japan quake. I mean that is a pretty big deal if your dog does this every single time and this time it is worse than ever.

Again, I am just asking. They were your claims. Not mine.

We are looking for the truth in posts. If the above is true then that is a big deal. We will expect the dog to be correct again. If that is indeed the case.
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listen to your dog they are smarter then us.My dogs have been on the freak lately infact all my critters been weird but we are in a drought on the very north end of the new madrid.Strange times.
 Quoting: mezroy 20460818


YES! My dog is earthquake sensitive, wakes me up pacing some nights and it took me awhile to connect the dots that those are the nights there are 7+ EQs somewhere in the world. The night of the Japan EQ in 2011 I got no sleep at all, nearly took him to the emergency vet, but that's when I realized what was happening.

Today he has been an absolute WRECK to the point I just gave him a Benadryl to calm the fuck down. I've been home with him all day, he's not sick, things are seemingly peaceful around here, nice weather etc. NO reason he should be whining, hiding, pacing, following me from room to room. Until I read this thread ... damned

Shit happens within 24 hours of the start of this behavior. He started about 10 am Pacific time today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5542489

That is INCREDIBLE if your dog EVERY SINGLE TIME there has been a 7.0+ quake goes wild.

I find that hard to believe. I guess if there isn't a 7.0 quake in the next 24 hours then it will be the first time the dog has failed the quake test?
 Quoting: endoftimes101


I'm not trying to be a dick, just adding my 2 cents if it can help someone. After the Japan quake I was in touch with a Native American EQ sensitive in Canada, also a woman in Texas, and we tried to coordinate our findings to see if we had a valid EQ prediction system. Of course we didn't, there are too many variables. I do believe the animals are more aware than we are, we just can't always read their signals. Asshole.
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And I wasn't trying to be a dick either. I was asking you some questions about how often this happens.

I have no doubt your dog can sense quakes. My dog does the same. I was asking about your claims on the 7.0+ comment.

That is all.
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I do not follow him around with a notebook documenting everything he does but yes, his behavior today is more nervous and pacing than it was on March 11, 2011, the date of the Japan earthquake. According to that I venture to say there will be a large magnitude over 7.0 EQ somewhere in the world, likely by 10 a.m. Pacific time tomorrow.

The other behaviors were hindsight 20/20, as I would recall him waking me up with nervous pacing behavior, then later that day or night I would find that there had been a 7.0 or so EQ somewhere in the world.

To reiterate, I did think I was onto something and joined with 2 other people to try to work out a prediction system. We did not accomplish it and I believe it's more due to human interpretation failure than to the signals that the animals get.

I am not bragging or trying to get rich or famous here, so go ahead and laugh if no big EQ hits by tomorrow. I will personally be relieved if no one is hurt or killed or loses their home. Just wanted to add my comments, sheesh, sorry I didn't realize you were the Truth Police and required documentation of everyone's postings.
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I do not follow him around with a notebook documenting everything he does but yes, his behavior today is more nervous and pacing than it was on March 11, 2011, the date of the Japan earthquake. According to that I venture to say there will be a large magnitude over 7.0 EQ somewhere in the world, likely by 10 a.m. Pacific time tomorrow.

The other behaviors were hindsight 20/20, as I would recall him waking me up with nervous pacing behavior, then later that day or night I would find that there had been a 7.0 or so EQ somewhere in the world.

To reiterate, I did think I was onto something and joined with 2 other people to try to work out a prediction system. We did not accomplish it and I believe it's more due to human interpretation failure than to the signals that the animals get.

I am not bragging or trying to get rich or famous here, so go ahead and laugh if no big EQ hits by tomorrow. I will personally be relieved if no one is hurt or killed or loses their home. Just wanted to add my comments, sheesh, sorry I didn't realize you were the Truth Police and required documentation of everyone's postings.
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Naaaa I got fired from the truth police. Some conspiracy to run me out.

I was just wondering if you were overstatating your dogs ability. Saying something happens every single time is a big deal.

I was curious. If the dog can do this then it is a big deal.

Let's see what happens and come back tomorrow. Maybe there will be a 7.0 quake somewhere in the world. If so then kudos to your dog.
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WOW! And here I thought I was losing my marbles!! Past few days I've been feeling very low, long drawn out vibrations while sitting at my computer or laying in bed (times when I'm idle). It was so subtle I thought I was imagining it. Guess not! I'm located in eastern Oklahoma.
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This is when I feel it. And I can't tell if it's internal or not. It usually doesn't last more than 20-30 seconds. It FEELS like and earthquake. I live on the NJ coast so they're rare. I can say that I've been feeling these 'vibrations' ever since we felt the DC earthquake back in august '11, once or twice a week. it's freaky.
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I'm in BC and it has been shaking here for weeks. I have never seen it this active in my life. THe Pacific Rim is gonna blow. Just last night after midnight my dog began to howl and he never does that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26410914
listen to your dog they are smarter then us.My dogs have been on the freak lately infact all my critters been weird but we are in a drought on the very north end of the new madrid.Strange times.
 Quoting: mezroy 20460818


YES! My dog is earthquake sensitive, wakes me up pacing some nights and it took me awhile to connect the dots that those are the nights there are 7+ EQs somewhere in the world. The night of the Japan EQ in 2011 I got no sleep at all, nearly took him to the emergency vet, but that's when I realized what was happening.

Today he has been an absolute WRECK to the point I just gave him a Benadryl to calm the fuck down. I've been home with him all day, he's not sick, things are seemingly peaceful around here, nice weather etc. NO reason he should be whining, hiding, pacing, following me from room to room. Until I read this thread ... damned

Shit happens within 24 hours of the start of this behavior. He started about 10 am Pacific time today.
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Me thinks it could be the big one if your dog is sensitive to this.

It could be either San Andreas or worse Yellowstone. uhoh
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Watch your dogs out in your yard too if they are free to roam. Our dogs will follow the ground with their noses glued to it right before an EQ. They follow straight lines back and forth north-south tracking something that isn't there. When they are inside, they are backs to the wall and hunkered down.
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Odd you should mention that (the sniffing). My dog is usually pretty "laid back", and sometimes I think she has to stumble over something before she notices it. This afternoon a few minutes after 4 (pacific time) we went down to feed the chickens (SouthWest of the house) and she suddenly started running across the lawn with her nose down and making loud snorting sounds. She was running SOUTH, just as you mentioned. There have been no "stranger" animals here, as far as I know, so I don't know WHAT she was tracking, but she was moving quickly. Mid-Willamette Valley Oregon here, half-way between Portland and Salem.

Then I came in after awhile and logged on to GLP to discover that there had been an earthquake in Alaska. Hmmmm!
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Dude, if you guys are serious about the vibrations, it means 21st December stuff is really going to happen.

The poles are going to suddenly shift. That's what you are feeling. And suddenly it will flip.
ahhhsiren2

Can anyone describe this vibration in more detail. Is it like low scale earthquake/after shocks?

Nothing on mainstream media is reporting this. Can you give link to any news source?
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listen to your dog they are smarter then us.My dogs have been on the freak lately infact all my critters been weird but we are in a drought on the very north end of the new madrid.Strange times.
 Quoting: mezroy 20460818


YES! My dog is earthquake sensitive, wakes me up pacing some nights and it took me awhile to connect the dots that those are the nights there are 7+ EQs somewhere in the world. The night of the Japan EQ in 2011 I got no sleep at all, nearly took him to the emergency vet, but that's when I realized what was happening.

Today he has been an absolute WRECK to the point I just gave him a Benadryl to calm the fuck down. I've been home with him all day, he's not sick, things are seemingly peaceful around here, nice weather etc. NO reason he should be whining, hiding, pacing, following me from room to room. Until I read this thread ... damned

Shit happens within 24 hours of the start of this behavior. He started about 10 am Pacific time today.
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My dog ran out of the house and bit someone today, completely unprovoked. So he is now under 'house arrest' for 14 days and the cops left here a little while ago. Thank god his rabies and all was up-to-date, but he has never done anything like that before. He has been climbing on the back of the couch and shaking for a few days, as well as my cats. Everyone wants to be up high. And here is what 3 seismos are showing, one in Michigan has had heavy vibes for the past few hours:

Michigan: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

Illinois: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

Mississippi: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

Montana & Maine showing anomalies as well. Same kind of vibration as this past weekend.
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I'm happy to hear that the cops did not show up and shoot your dog.
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He was locked down and hidden away just to be sure
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Dude, if you guys are serious about the vibrations, it means 21st December stuff is really going to happen.

The poles are going to suddenly shift. That's what you are feeling. And suddenly it will flip.
ahhhsiren2

Can anyone describe this vibration in more detail. Is it like low scale earthquake/after shocks?

Nothing on mainstream media is reporting this. Can you give link to any news source?
 Quoting: Fooled


Hi Fooled. MSM (lamestream media) most likely will never report on this. They remain hush hush on so many things going on. That's why few people other than those in the immediate area, know anything of that monster sinkhole in Louisiana.
The only link I can provide is the one in the original post.

As far as feeling the vibrations...the only way I can describe them would be as a gentle shaking...kind of like standing next to a washing machine that is off-balance.
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Maybe just many of us are becoming more sensitive to the planet...either because we have become more aware of it through daily study or our senses are becoming heightened...
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Only ones that are going to feel the vibrations are the ones sitting on there asses all day doing nothing but thinking of crap to post here.
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Only ones that are going to feel the vibrations are the ones sitting on there asses all day doing nothing but thinking of crap to post here.
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No, that's not the only people who feel ground vibrations.
I have felt them while outside working on my family's property, which is 30 miles from town...up on a mountain.
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2 stars? scratching
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well i just hit you with 5

:)
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Me too! Apparently some people are more sensitive than others to this sort of thing. Thanks for letting the rest of us know!

bump hf bump
 Quoting: Eggcellent


I think it's just the shills....one starring threads of important topics as a means of discrediting those threads to dissuade people from reading them.
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gave you 5 stars as well, because there definitely seems to be something changing

Spidey sense would say something is up, although it probably isn't linked to a specific doom date...more like a wave building

like most waves and changes of trends, people with their ears close to the ground will be the first to pick up slight changes

....by the time it is front page news, the wave is too close to avoid

I read GLP in order to find threads like this

:)
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No worries, it's just the engines firing up. You know it is called "Spaceship Earth" for a good reason right?
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Ok, that was cool :-)


Raised in the Rockies.. this place doesn't have earthquakes at all, really.
Lived in Seattle for 20 years, and San Diego for 2 years.
I know what all sizes of earthquakes feel like.

Been back in the Rockies for a couple years...
and have been feeling them for a few months now. Little, quiet, tremors.
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n.central fl hearing loud booms that shake ground sometimes. freaked me and some people out tonight.. we're living in the beginning of the end. study bible prophecy.. time for soul refining.. time for now.
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well i just hit you with 5

:)
 Quoting: Dr. Acula




Me too! Apparently some people are more sensitive than others to this sort of thing. Thanks for letting the rest of us know!

bump hf bump
 Quoting: Eggcellent


I think it's just the shills....one starring threads of important topics as a means of discrediting those threads to dissuade people from reading them.
 Quoting: Nika


gave you 5 stars as well, because there definitely seems to be something changing

Spidey sense would say something is up, although it probably isn't linked to a specific doom date...more like a wave building

like most waves and changes of trends, people with their ears close to the ground will be the first to pick up slight changes

....by the time it is front page news, the wave is too close to avoid

I read GLP in order to find threads like this

:)
 Quoting: IssueX


I agree IssueX. It's a building up...a chain reaction sort of. And those who are in touch with the earth so to speak, feel it when others don't. It's also not just feeling physical vibrations but also shifts in energy too.

And thanks for the 5 stars. I am here on glp also for the valuable information and to be educated by those with more knowledge on important issues. And when I come across news or information that you can't get from the lying msm, I feel it's only right to share with others.
There's a wealth of information and real news on glp...some is credible...some is not. You just have to avoid the crap threads and watch for the shills and trolls.
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Only ones that are going to feel the vibrations are the ones sitting on there asses all day doing nothing but thinking of crap to post here.
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What, you scared bro?
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Watch your dogs out in your yard too if they are free to roam. Our dogs will follow the ground with their noses glued to it right before an EQ. They follow straight lines back and forth north-south tracking something that isn't there. When they are inside, they are backs to the wall and hunkered down.
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Odd you should mention that (the sniffing). My dog is usually pretty "laid back", and sometimes I think she has to stumble over something before she notices it. This afternoon a few minutes after 4 (pacific time) we went down to feed the chickens (SouthWest of the house) and she suddenly started running across the lawn with her nose down and making loud snorting sounds. She was running SOUTH, just as you mentioned. There have been no "stranger" animals here, as far as I know, so I don't know WHAT she was tracking, but she was moving quickly. Mid-Willamette Valley Oregon here, half-way between Portland and Salem.

Then I came in after awhile and logged on to GLP to discover that there had been an earthquake in Alaska. Hmmmm!
 Quoting: Eggcellent

It's pretty weird isn't it ? Dogs never follow a straight path when they catch the scent of something, they follow it around. My St Bernard did this as a puppy in Wyoming and continues to do it now in Alabama.

Good to know other dogs do this too. So my dog isn't nuts, it's just me : )
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I didn't feel anything today, but I was on the move most of the day.

Personal pin for later movement..
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Use D cell batteries instead of 9v.
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Your new age god, the devil, is coming to receive your worship. You are picking up the birth pangs.

Your rejection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, comes at a cost.

The Babylon in which you live is falling.
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Your new age god, the devil, is coming to receive your worship. You are picking up the birth pangs.

Your rejection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, comes at a cost.

The Babylon in which you live is falling.
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What does ground movement/vibrations have to do with new age or religion? Serious question...not being sarcastic.
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Your new age god, the devil, is coming to receive your worship. You are picking up the birth pangs.

Your rejection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, comes at a cost.

The Babylon in which you live is falling.
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And then this one time? At band camp?
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I'm in BC and it has been shaking here for weeks. I have never seen it this active in my life. THe Pacific Rim is gonna blow. Just last night after midnight my dog began to howl and he never does that.
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listen to your dog they are smarter then us.My dogs have been on the freak lately infact all my critters been weird but we are in a drought on the very north end of the new madrid.Strange times.
 Quoting: mezroy 20460818


YES! My dog is earthquake sensitive, wakes me up pacing some nights and it took me awhile to connect the dots that those are the nights there are 7+ EQs somewhere in the world. The night of the Japan EQ in 2011 I got no sleep at all, nearly took him to the emergency vet, but that's when I realized what was happening.

Today he has been an absolute WRECK to the point I just gave him a Benadryl to calm the fuck down. I've been home with him all day, he's not sick, things are seemingly peaceful around here, nice weather etc. NO reason he should be whining, hiding, pacing, following me from room to room. Until I read this thread ... damned

Shit happens within 24 hours of the start of this behavior. He started about 10 am Pacific time today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5542489


Me thinks it could be the big one if your dog is sensitive to this.

It could be either San Andreas or worse Yellowstone. uhoh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18968393


Yikes, I'm in Southern Cal ... we did just get one off the coast here, CLOSE. But it was only a 3.1 so I still go with the prediction of a 7+ upcoming. Unfortunately.

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]


M 3.1 - 32km SSW of Port Hueneme, California 2012-12-04 02:36:17 UTC
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Re: Strange “vibrations” detected throughout the United States
It's coming...
The BIG calamity...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27955255


Thread: Are women doubling up on menstual cycles lately?

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 Quoting: ANHEDONIC



so many odd things happening to people everywhere. all of them may not be connected, but I believe many of them are.

I haven't had time to keep up with all the threads in the past few days but I have read several pages on menstral cycle changes. I think out of everything....that's the one that leaves me the most puzzled. many women/young girls around my way say the same thing...that they're having 2 a month...have never done that before. all ages too....teens & older women closer to menapause.

very strange....

hmmm
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