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A Tribute to Communism

 
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I guess some of the young and intellectuals do not know what awaits them the minute the marxists seize power

intellectuals, artists, liberals are considered bourgeois and corrupt by the 'true' marxists who always rise to top of the power structure post revolution




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Attacks on Intelligentsia: Early Attacks

In the years immediately following their accession to power in 1917, the Bolsheviks took measures to prevent challenges to their new regime, beginning with eliminating political opposition. When the freely-elected Constituent Assembly did not acknowledge the primacy of the Bolshevik government, Vladimir Lenin dissolved it in January 1918. The Left Socialist Revolutionary Party, which protested the action, withdrew from the Bolshevik coalition in March, and its members were automatically branded enemies of the people. Numerous opposition groups posed military threats from various parts of the country, placing the survival of the revolution in jeopardy. Between 1918 and 1921, a state of civil war existed.

Bolshevik policy toward its detractors, and particularly toward articulate, intellectual criticism, hardened considerably. Suppression of newspapers, initially described as a temporary measure, became a permanent policy. Lenin considered the Constitutional Democrats (Kadets) the center of a conspiracy against Bolshevik rule. In 1919, he began mass arrests of professors and scientists who had been Kadets, and deported Kadets, Socialist Revolutionaries, Mensheviks, and Nationalists. The Bolshevik leadership sought rapidly to purge Russia of past leaders in order to build the future on a clean slate.

These harsh measures alienated a large number of the intellectuals who had supported the overthrow of the tsarist order. The suppression of democratic institutions evoked strong protests from academics and artists,who felt betrayed in their idealistic belief that revolution would bring a free society. Writers who had emigrated shortly after the revolution published stinging attacks on the new government from abroad. As a result, further exit permits for artists were generally denied.

The disenchantment of the majority of intellectuals did not surprise Lenin, who saw the old Russian intelligentsia as a kind of rival to his "party of a new type," which alone could bring revolutionary consciousness to the working class.

In his view, artists generally served bourgeois interests, a notion that fueled the persecution of intellectuals throughout the Soviet period.



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Anti Intellectualism ...

...Perhaps its most extreme political form was during the 1970s in Cambodia under the rule of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, when people were killed for being academics or even for merely wearing eyeglasses (as it suggested literacy) in the Killing Fields.[2]


why communism kills:

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According to Rudolph Joseph Rummel, the killings done by communist regimes can be explained with the marriage between absolute power and an absolutist ideology – Marxism.[25]


"Of all religions, secular and otherwise," Rummel positions Marxism as "by far the bloodiest – bloodier than the Catholic Inquisition, the various Catholic crusades, and the Thirty Years War between Catholics and Protestants.

In practice, Marxism has meant bloody terrorism, deadly purges, lethal prison camps and murderous forced labor, fatal deportations, man-made famines, extrajudicial executions and fraudulent show trials, outright mass murder and genocide."[26]

He writes that in practice the Marxists saw the construction of their utopia as "a war on poverty, exploitation, imperialism and inequality – and, as in a real war, noncombatants would unfortunately get caught in the battle.

There would be necessary enemy casualties: the clergy, bourgeoisie, capitalists, 'wreckers', intellectuals, counterrevolutionaries, rightists, tyrants, the rich and landlords. As in a war, millions might die, but these deaths would be justified by the end, as in the defeat of Hitler in World War II.

To the ruling Marxists, the goal of a communist utopia was enough to justify all the deaths."[26]



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What's the formal definition of communism?
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That's been tossed down the memory hole. You'll need a pre-1930's or so dictionary to learn what words like "communism" or "nation" really mean since modern reference material has been corrupted by Jewish communists.
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I guess you all like to be slaves to privately owned rich corporations,
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Translation:
I didn't watch the video.
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YOu people are ALL traitors to your fellow human being. You are blindly supporting the richest people in the world by buying into this horse shit. One day, the 'meek' SHALL RULE THE EARTH. Go lick the bankers balls since you all are so good at it.
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I guess some of the young and intellectuals do not know what awaits them the minute the marxists seize power

intellectuals, artists, liberals are considered bourgeois and corrupt by the 'true' marxists who always rise to top of the power structure post revolution




[link to www.ibiblio.org]

Attacks on Intelligentsia: Early Attacks

In the years immediately following their accession to power in 1917, the Bolsheviks took measures to prevent challenges to their new regime, beginning with eliminating political opposition. When the freely-elected Constituent Assembly did not acknowledge the primacy of the Bolshevik government, Vladimir Lenin dissolved it in January 1918. The Left Socialist Revolutionary Party, which protested the action, withdrew from the Bolshevik coalition in March, and its members were automatically branded enemies of the people. Numerous opposition groups posed military threats from various parts of the country, placing the survival of the revolution in jeopardy. Between 1918 and 1921, a state of civil war existed.

Bolshevik policy toward its detractors, and particularly toward articulate, intellectual criticism, hardened considerably. Suppression of newspapers, initially described as a temporary measure, became a permanent policy. Lenin considered the Constitutional Democrats (Kadets) the center of a conspiracy against Bolshevik rule. In 1919, he began mass arrests of professors and scientists who had been Kadets, and deported Kadets, Socialist Revolutionaries, Mensheviks, and Nationalists. The Bolshevik leadership sought rapidly to purge Russia of past leaders in order to build the future on a clean slate.

These harsh measures alienated a large number of the intellectuals who had supported the overthrow of the tsarist order. The suppression of democratic institutions evoked strong protests from academics and artists,who felt betrayed in their idealistic belief that revolution would bring a free society. Writers who had emigrated shortly after the revolution published stinging attacks on the new government from abroad. As a result, further exit permits for artists were generally denied.

The disenchantment of the majority of intellectuals did not surprise Lenin, who saw the old Russian intelligentsia as a kind of rival to his "party of a new type," which alone could bring revolutionary consciousness to the working class.

In his view, artists generally served bourgeois interests, a notion that fueled the persecution of intellectuals throughout the Soviet period.



[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anti Intellectualism ...

...Perhaps its most extreme political form was during the 1970s in Cambodia under the rule of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, when people were killed for being academics or even for merely wearing eyeglasses (as it suggested literacy) in the Killing Fields.[2]


why communism kills:

[link to www.schwarzreport.org]


According to Rudolph Joseph Rummel, the killings done by communist regimes can be explained with the marriage between absolute power and an absolutist ideology – Marxism.[25]


"Of all religions, secular and otherwise," Rummel positions Marxism as "by far the bloodiest – bloodier than the Catholic Inquisition, the various Catholic crusades, and the Thirty Years War between Catholics and Protestants.

In practice, Marxism has meant bloody terrorism, deadly purges, lethal prison camps and murderous forced labor, fatal deportations, man-made famines, extrajudicial executions and fraudulent show trials, outright mass murder and genocide."[26]

He writes that in practice the Marxists saw the construction of their utopia as "a war on poverty, exploitation, imperialism and inequality – and, as in a real war, noncombatants would unfortunately get caught in the battle.

There would be necessary enemy casualties: the clergy, bourgeoisie, capitalists, 'wreckers', intellectuals, counterrevolutionaries, rightists, tyrants, the rich and landlords. As in a war, millions might die, but these deaths would be justified by the end, as in the defeat of Hitler in World War II.

To the ruling Marxists, the goal of a communist utopia was enough to justify all the deaths."[26]



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clappa
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I guess you all like to be slaves to privately owned rich corporations,
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Translation:
I didn't watch the video.
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It's propaganda horse shit is what it really is. Go back to being a rich mans slave.
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Red Pin This Shit
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I agree it needs a red pin, but green was all I could do.
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As always, above and beyond the call of duty my friend, thank you.
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Karl Marx was a satanist.
This explain a lot of things!
google it!
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I guess you all like to be slaves to privately owned rich corporations,
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Translation:
I didn't watch the video.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


It's propaganda horse shit is what it really is. Go back to being a rich mans slave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28621784


Watch the video, fucktard.
It will only mean 5 minutes away from your gay porn.
Tell me what this tastes like...
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Karl Marx was a satanist.
This explain a lot of things!
google it!
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No, he was a luciferian Jew.

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Karl Marx was a satanist.
This explain a lot of things!
google it!
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Interesting, I'd never come across this theory.
[link to www.cuttingedge.org]
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Karl Marx was a satanist.
This explain a lot of things!
google it!
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No, he was a luciferian Jew.

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Watch the video that is the subject of this thread and comment on it.
Tell me what this tastes like...
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Karl Marx was a satanist.
This explain a lot of things!
google it!
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No, he was a luciferian Jew.

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Watch the video that is the subject of this thread and comment on it.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


I already have viewed that video and many others like it as well as extensive reading of relevant subject material. Not to mention having visited the DDR.

Stasi much?

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What's the formal definition of communism?
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What's the real-life history of communism?
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Definitions aren't determined by history, they are determined by their use in language.
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As someone who was born in the former gdr (east germany) I feel ashamed for anyone who still falls for this fraud.
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What's the formal definition of communism?
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What's the real-life history of communism?
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Definitions aren't determined by history, they are determined by their use in language.
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Oh, this will be fun. You really want to challenge me to a duel on linguistics, history, and philosophy?
1rof1

Definitions are only valid if they reflect reality. Defining a thing using language which does not accurately reflect its actual attributes results in an invalid definition.

Please, feel free to submit your invalid definition, and I'll fix the bitch for you, gratis.
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As someone who was born in the former gdr (east germany) I feel ashamed for anyone who still falls for this fraud.
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I was stationed on the border and my comrades and I had an agreement that if on patrol a person wad attempting to escape communism we would assist them by any and all means even if it meant violating our orders.
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What's the formal definition of communism?
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That's been tossed down the memory hole. You'll need a pre-1930's or so dictionary to learn what words like "communism" or "nation" really mean since modern reference material has been corrupted by Jewish communists.
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What's your definition of communism?
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As someone who was born in the former gdr (east germany) I feel ashamed for anyone who still falls for this fraud.
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God bless you.

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[link to www.amazon.com]

Rent it, watch the children leaving the factories and coal mines....cry.

The science of......Economics.

Enjoy your stuff.

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As someone who was born in the former gdr (east germany) I feel ashamed for anyone who still falls for this fraud.
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I was stationed on the border and my comrades and I had an agreement that if on patrol a person wad attempting to escape communism we would assist them by any and all means even if it meant violating our orders.
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YOU ARE A REAL-LIFE HERO!!

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Rent it, watch the children leaving the factories....cry.

The science of......Economics.

Enjoy your stuff.
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Summarize less-poorly so as to motivate me to watch it.
Tell me what this tastes like...
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What's the formal definition of communism?
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What's the real-life history of communism?
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Definitions aren't determined by history, they are determined by their use in language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Oh, this will be fun. You really want to challenge me to a duel on linguistics, history, and philosophy?
1rof1

Definitions are only valid if they reflect reality. Defining a thing using language which does not accurately reflect its actual attributes results in an invalid definition.

Please, feel free to submit your invalid definition, and I'll fix the bitch for you, gratis.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


My definition of communism is the definition that Karl Marx put forth. communism is the classless, stateless, and moneyless society by which private property is abolished. What's your definition?
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As someone who was born in the former gdr (east germany) I feel ashamed for anyone who still falls for this fraud.
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I was stationed on the border and my comrades and I had an agreement that if on patrol a person wad attempting to escape communism we would assist them by any and all means even if it meant violating our orders.
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How many people did you help escape?
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What's the real-life history of communism?
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Definitions aren't determined by history, they are determined by their use in language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Oh, this will be fun. You really want to challenge me to a duel on linguistics, history, and philosophy?
1rof1

Definitions are only valid if they reflect reality. Defining a thing using language which does not accurately reflect its actual attributes results in an invalid definition.

Please, feel free to submit your invalid definition, and I'll fix the bitch for you, gratis.
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My definition of communism is the definition that Karl Marx put forth. communism is the classless, stateless, and moneyless society by which private property is abolished. What's your definition?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


clappa
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Definitions aren't determined by history, they are determined by their use in language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Oh, this will be fun. You really want to challenge me to a duel on linguistics, history, and philosophy?
1rof1

Definitions are only valid if they reflect reality. Defining a thing using language which does not accurately reflect its actual attributes results in an invalid definition.

Please, feel free to submit your invalid definition, and I'll fix the bitch for you, gratis.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


My definition of communism is the definition that Karl Marx put forth. communism is the classless, stateless, and moneyless society by which private property is abolished. What's your definition?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28621784

After all, since communism was invented by Karl Marx, it is only appropriate to use the inventor of communism's definition of commuism.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.
THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.
THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.AMONGST THE PEOPLE

THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
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As someone who was born in the former gdr (east germany) I feel ashamed for anyone who still falls for this fraud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28977093


I was stationed on the border and my comrades and I had an agreement that if on patrol a person wad attempting to escape communism we would assist them by any and all means even if it meant violating our orders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1582303


How many people did you help escape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Unfortunately none. The escapee would have to get thru the primary fence, then cross a minefield of about 1K distance, then cross a patrol road visible to guard towers and then climb a fence to our side. The plan was that if somebody made it that far and the GAKs were after them we'd open up with the M-60 and whatever else we had.
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As someone who was born in the former gdr (east germany) I feel ashamed for anyone who still falls for this fraud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28977093


I was stationed on the border and my comrades and I had an agreement that if on patrol a person wad attempting to escape communism we would assist them by any and all means even if it meant violating our orders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1582303


How many people did you help escape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Unfortunately none. The escapee would have to get thru the primary fence, then cross a minefield of about 1K distance, then cross a patrol road visible to guard towers and then climb a fence to our side. The plan was that if somebody made it that far and the GAKs were after them we'd open up with the M-60 and whatever else we had.
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So...nobody ever managed to escape?

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