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My definition of communism is the definition that Karl Marx put forth. communism is the classless, stateless, and moneyless society by which private property is abolished. What's your definition?
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Communism: The faux philosophy which denies the truisms of private property, individual motivation, and individual sovereignty in favor of the falsehoods of collectivism, egalitarianism, and statism.

Communism achieves power in a traditional bait-and-switch fraudulent sales scheme where it presents itself as an unrealizable ideal of common, distributed authority, but supplies instead an all-powerful oligarchy in charge of all production and consumption, where patrons and supporters of the oligarchy share in the limited stolen wealth of the enslaved state until economic thermodynamics dictate the collapse of the unsupportable facade of the Communist state.

During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty, and universally executes a pseudo-random sub-set of its population, chosen by emotional lottery held the "salesmen" and determined by whoever they felt personally slighted by in their youth. This serves to both install terror in the remaining members of the populace, and to reduce the manpower available to resist the obvious fraud of the bait-and-switch sales effort and the fraudsters who perpetrated it.

A somewhat longer definition than you deserve, but for the sake of readers, supplied.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Communists do abolish private property absolutely yes, but they don't abolish personal property. Here's the difference between private property and personal property. Personal property is your wife, your kids, your house, your car, your clothes, your things. Private property is the mode of production. Modes of production are land, labor, capital, and enterpreuership. Land can be both personal and private property, but land ownership that communists want to abolish are typically the land used for production, such as land that is used for drilling, mining, farming etc. Once private property is abolished it becomes socially owned.

This does not abolish individual motivation because communists still rewards you with personal property items such as homes, cars, clothes etc..

oligarchy: A small group of people who control a country, organization, or institution. Hey that sounds like capitalism!

"During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty."

I'm glad you brought up that point. Communists experience counter-revolutionaries, those are the people who indeed are executed in their terror regimes. Your assumption that communists kill INNOCENTS is flawed.

Here's another tidbit for the general public, capitalists DO get involved in communists revolutions and kill the communists as well. Neither side is innocent of killing. neither side is killing innocents, but communists revolutionaries ARE wars, and indeed war causes food disruptions and killings, but that isn't the goal of communism as a system, that is the side effect of the fact that they are in WAR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699



In communism your person is the property of the state.

Read some Solzhenitsyn and disabuse yourself of the communist delusion.





Aleksander Wat was a Polish intellectual, imprisoned by Stalin following the outbreak of the Second World War. His remarkable memoirs have been compared with Solzhenitsyn's work. Here, he recalls his time in Kiev Prison in the Soviet Union, where writing on the latrine walls provided the only truth in a world perverted by Soviet lies. Wat considers one of these pieces of graffiti which read: ‘A curse on whoever invented the name Corrective Labour Camps.’


‘A curse on whoever invented the name... ’ – anger about a name, the meaning of words, semantics. The loss of freedom, tyranny, abuse, hunger would all have been easier to bear if not for the compulsion to call them freedom, justice, the good of the people. Mass exterminations are not an exception in history; cruelty is part of human nature, part of society. But a new, third, dimension had been added that was more deeply and subtly oppressive: a vast enterprise to deform language. Had it been only lies and hypocrisy – lying is part of human nature and all governments are hypocritical. The rulers' hypocrisy can cause rebellion, but here any possible rebellion had been nipped in the bud once and for all. A lie is an infirmity, a disease of language. The natural function of language is to ascertain the truth, or truths. Lies, by their very nature partial and ephemeral, are revealed as lies when confronted with language's striving for truth. But here all the means of disclosure had been permanently confiscated by the police. The customary or even the logical, natural connections between words and things, facts, had been taken from the individual, expropriated everywhere, and nationalized for good, so that now any word could mean whatever suited the whims of the usurper of all words, meanings, things, and souls. The viler the deed, the more grandiloquent the name. But if only this procedure were used to mask criminal means and ignoble ends – that too had happened often enough in history, the history of wars, tyrannies, and annexations; Tacitus knew about all that. But in this case a coherent set of grandiloquent terms and the opposing monstrous reality were kept side by side, ostentatiously and with diabolical thoroughness and perseverance, and under threat of extermination a person was coerced into fully believing that the terms and the facts were identical. Such things had been anticipated and attempted in history's darker hours, but this was the first time the ‘reforging of souls’ was carried out by the police on such a colossal scale, with such speed and such logic. Collective farmers dying of starvation were herded into films in which the tables buckled under the weight of food; under threat of death they had to believe that these banquets, and not their wretched poverty, their collective farms, were true and typical. Young enthusiasts sang rapturously:

‘I know no other land
Where a man can breathe so free’

while their fathers perished in the camps. But for souls that had not been reforged yet, nothing was as hateful as that total corruption of language. It drove them to their wits' end. It suffocated them like a nightmare, like a noose around their necks.

When I was at liberty in Russia, which by then had been pacified until it was like a cemetery, I saw some old people who risked their lives to shout out, if only once, that slavery is slavery and not freedom. That was to be a common thing later on in post-war Poland, even during the blackest years. I was one of that large number, and I paid dearly for it.

So in the prison latrines you could read the plain human truth about Stalin's Russia – there, and only there.
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Know this:
When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
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We don't try.
Sleep well.
hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Why go back to the other extreme to fascism?

How about the golden middle.
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Fascism is state capitalism actually.
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Communism: The faux philosophy which denies the truisms of private property, individual motivation, and individual sovereignty in favor of the falsehoods of collectivism, egalitarianism, and statism.

Communism achieves power in a traditional bait-and-switch fraudulent sales scheme where it presents itself as an unrealizable ideal of common, distributed authority, but supplies instead an all-powerful oligarchy in charge of all production and consumption, where patrons and supporters of the oligarchy share in the limited stolen wealth of the enslaved state until economic thermodynamics dictate the collapse of the unsupportable facade of the Communist state.

During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty, and universally executes a pseudo-random sub-set of its population, chosen by emotional lottery held the "salesmen" and determined by whoever they felt personally slighted by in their youth. This serves to both install terror in the remaining members of the populace, and to reduce the manpower available to resist the obvious fraud of the bait-and-switch sales effort and the fraudsters who perpetrated it.

A somewhat longer definition than you deserve, but for the sake of readers, supplied.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Communists do abolish private property absolutely yes, but they don't abolish personal property. Here's the difference between private property and personal property. Personal property is your wife, your kids, your house, your car, your clothes, your things. Private property is the mode of production. Modes of production are land, labor, capital, and enterpreuership. Land can be both personal and private property, but land ownership that communists want to abolish are typically the land used for production, such as land that is used for drilling, mining, farming etc. Once private property is abolished it becomes socially owned.

This does not abolish individual motivation because communists still rewards you with personal property items such as homes, cars, clothes etc..

oligarchy: A small group of people who control a country, organization, or institution. Hey that sounds like capitalism!

"During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty."

I'm glad you brought up that point. Communists experience counter-revolutionaries, those are the people who indeed are executed in their terror regimes. Your assumption that communists kill INNOCENTS is flawed.

Here's another tidbit for the general public, capitalists DO get involved in communists revolutions and kill the communists as well. Neither side is innocent of killing. neither side is killing innocents, but communists revolutionaries ARE wars, and indeed war causes food disruptions and killings, but that isn't the goal of communism as a system, that is the side effect of the fact that they are in WAR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Know this:
When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

What experience do you have living under Communism? Just curious, because if it is so great I would think you would be seeking a nation to live it.
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Oh yeah Communism.. that's the answer!!! Wooo Hoooo!!! It works soooo well!!! LOL

How a tribute to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!! Every knee WILL bend on the Day of the Lord!!! And if it does not, it will be broken!

That's the faith of a true Christ-man! Live with it, maggots.
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The problem with communism is, for it to work everyone has to agree.
Everyone never agrees.
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"No man, no problem." Stalin
Those disagreements are settled by the barrel of the gun.

Just kidding.

Socialism is the phrase where capitalism is weeded out. Capitalists will also be weeded out and either assimilated into the socialist society or imprisoned. Only those who's disagreements lead them to be a threat to the society will be imprsioned, much like the prison system we have here in America.
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Self-identifed collectivists (Communists, Marxists, Stalinists, Maoists, Socialists, Democrats) will be exterminated, house-to-house, their disgusting, flawed DNA removed from the gene pool once and for all. The new Golden Age of Freedom will begin.

And that is the fate that awaits the 100 or so statists who will survive the collapse of the false economic system impersonating capitalism in America today. The vast majority will die of sheer incompetence, suicide, and cannibalism.

Collectivists are fundamentally incompatible with civilization and life on Earth.

hf
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My definition of communism is the definition that Karl Marx put forth. communism is the classless, stateless, and moneyless society by which private property is abolished. What's your definition?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Communism: The faux philosophy which denies the truisms of private property, individual motivation, and individual sovereignty in favor of the falsehoods of collectivism, egalitarianism, and statism.

Communism achieves power in a traditional bait-and-switch fraudulent sales scheme where it presents itself as an unrealizable ideal of common, distributed authority, but supplies instead an all-powerful oligarchy in charge of all production and consumption, where patrons and supporters of the oligarchy share in the limited stolen wealth of the enslaved state until economic thermodynamics dictate the collapse of the unsupportable facade of the Communist state.

During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty, and universally executes a pseudo-random sub-set of its population, chosen by emotional lottery held the "salesmen" and determined by whoever they felt personally slighted by in their youth. This serves to both install terror in the remaining members of the populace, and to reduce the manpower available to resist the obvious fraud of the bait-and-switch sales effort and the fraudsters who perpetrated it.

A somewhat longer definition than you deserve, but for the sake of readers, supplied.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Communists do abolish private property absolutely yes, but they don't abolish personal property. Here's the difference between private property and personal property. Personal property is your wife, your kids, your house, your car, your clothes, your things. Private property is the mode of production. Modes of production are land, labor, capital, and enterpreuership. Land can be both personal and private property, but land ownership that communists want to abolish are typically the land used for production, such as land that is used for drilling, mining, farming etc. Once private property is abolished it becomes socially owned.

This does not abolish individual motivation because communists still rewards you with personal property items such as homes, cars, clothes etc..

oligarchy: A small group of people who control a country, organization, or institution. Hey that sounds like capitalism!

"During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty."

I'm glad you brought up that point. Communists experience counter-revolutionaries, those are the people who indeed are executed in their terror regimes. Your assumption that communists kill INNOCENTS is flawed.

Here's another tidbit for the general public, capitalists DO get involved in communists revolutions and kill the communists as well. Neither side is innocent of killing. neither side is killing innocents, but communists revolutionaries ARE wars, and indeed war causes food disruptions and killings, but that isn't the goal of communism as a system, that is the side effect of the fact that they are in WAR.
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and YOU are the kind of dangerous commmie fuck who should be deported out of this country IMMEDIATELY if this country had any sense of self preservation left

YOU are the egotistical self important little SHITHEAD who signs up to be a warrior, and you will be the one who will gladly march men and women, even those you may know,. to a grisley death because you fucktards all believe the ends justify the means

FUCK YOU asshole, fuck you up the dick with a barbed wire dick, before you have the chance to inflict your monstrous vision on my country

my side have hackers too, andf we know and locate where those like you are hiding, and when your glorious war comes, you may in in for a surprrise or two you hell spawned menace

Yippee kayee motherfucker


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Go ask a jaguar what he thanks about communism.
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My definition of communism is the definition that Karl Marx put forth. communism is the classless, stateless, and moneyless society by which private property is abolished. What's your definition?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Communism: The faux philosophy which denies the truisms of private property, individual motivation, and individual sovereignty in favor of the falsehoods of collectivism, egalitarianism, and statism.

Communism achieves power in a traditional bait-and-switch fraudulent sales scheme where it presents itself as an unrealizable ideal of common, distributed authority, but supplies instead an all-powerful oligarchy in charge of all production and consumption, where patrons and supporters of the oligarchy share in the limited stolen wealth of the enslaved state until economic thermodynamics dictate the collapse of the unsupportable facade of the Communist state.

During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty, and universally executes a pseudo-random sub-set of its population, chosen by emotional lottery held the "salesmen" and determined by whoever they felt personally slighted by in their youth. This serves to both install terror in the remaining members of the populace, and to reduce the manpower available to resist the obvious fraud of the bait-and-switch sales effort and the fraudsters who perpetrated it.

A somewhat longer definition than you deserve, but for the sake of readers, supplied.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Communists do abolish private property absolutely yes, but they don't abolish personal property. Here's the difference between private property and personal property. Personal property is your wife, your kids, your house, your car, your clothes, your things. Private property is the mode of production. Modes of production are land, labor, capital, and enterpreuership. Land can be both personal and private property, but land ownership that communists want to abolish are typically the land used for production, such as land that is used for drilling, mining, farming etc. Once private property is abolished it becomes socially owned.

This does not abolish individual motivation because communists still rewards you with personal property items such as homes, cars, clothes etc..

oligarchy: A small group of people who control a country, organization, or institution. Hey that sounds like capitalism!

"During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty."

I'm glad you brought up that point. Communists experience counter-revolutionaries, those are the people who indeed are executed in their terror regimes. Your assumption that communists kill INNOCENTS is flawed.

Here's another tidbit for the general public, capitalists DO get involved in communists revolutions and kill the communists as well. Neither side is innocent of killing. neither side is killing innocents, but communists revolutionaries ARE wars, and indeed war causes food disruptions and killings, but that isn't the goal of communism as a system, that is the side effect of the fact that they are in WAR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699



In communism your person is the property of the state.

Read some Solzhenitsyn and disabuse yourself of the communist delusion.





Aleksander Wat was a Polish intellectual, imprisoned by Stalin following the outbreak of the Second World War. His remarkable memoirs have been compared with Solzhenitsyn's work. Here, he recalls his time in Kiev Prison in the Soviet Union, where writing on the latrine walls provided the only truth in a world perverted by Soviet lies. Wat considers one of these pieces of graffiti which read: ‘A curse on whoever invented the name Corrective Labour Camps.’


‘A curse on whoever invented the name... ’ – anger about a name, the meaning of words, semantics. The loss of freedom, tyranny, abuse, hunger would all have been easier to bear if not for the compulsion to call them freedom, justice, the good of the people. Mass exterminations are not an exception in history; cruelty is part of human nature, part of society. But a new, third, dimension had been added that was more deeply and subtly oppressive: a vast enterprise to deform language. Had it been only lies and hypocrisy – lying is part of human nature and all governments are hypocritical. The rulers' hypocrisy can cause rebellion, but here any possible rebellion had been nipped in the bud once and for all. A lie is an infirmity, a disease of language. The natural function of language is to ascertain the truth, or truths. Lies, by their very nature partial and ephemeral, are revealed as lies when confronted with language's striving for truth. But here all the means of disclosure had been permanently confiscated by the police. The customary or even the logical, natural connections between words and things, facts, had been taken from the individual, expropriated everywhere, and nationalized for good, so that now any word could mean whatever suited the whims of the usurper of all words, meanings, things, and souls. The viler the deed, the more grandiloquent the name. But if only this procedure were used to mask criminal means and ignoble ends – that too had happened often enough in history, the history of wars, tyrannies, and annexations; Tacitus knew about all that. But in this case a coherent set of grandiloquent terms and the opposing monstrous reality were kept side by side, ostentatiously and with diabolical thoroughness and perseverance, and under threat of extermination a person was coerced into fully believing that the terms and the facts were identical. Such things had been anticipated and attempted in history's darker hours, but this was the first time the ‘reforging of souls’ was carried out by the police on such a colossal scale, with such speed and such logic. Collective farmers dying of starvation were herded into films in which the tables buckled under the weight of food; under threat of death they had to believe that these banquets, and not their wretched poverty, their collective farms, were true and typical. Young enthusiasts sang rapturously:

‘I know no other land
Where a man can breathe so free’

while their fathers perished in the camps. But for souls that had not been reforged yet, nothing was as hateful as that total corruption of language. It drove them to their wits' end. It suffocated them like a nightmare, like a noose around their necks.

When I was at liberty in Russia, which by then had been pacified until it was like a cemetery, I saw some old people who risked their lives to shout out, if only once, that slavery is slavery and not freedom. That was to be a common thing later on in post-war Poland, even during the blackest years. I was one of that large number, and I paid dearly for it.

So in the prison latrines you could read the plain human truth about Stalin's Russia – there, and only there.
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The highest number of people imprisoned by Soviet Union in any given year according to Soviet Union government archives: 2.5 million. Which is 2.4% of the adult population.
America: 5.5 million in 1996 25% of the world's prison population. 2.8% of the American adult population.

Another person who is always associated with books and articles on the supposed millions who lost their lives or liberty in the Soviet Union is the Russian author Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Solzhenitsyn became famous throughout the capitalist world towards the end of 1960 with his book, The Gulag Archipelago. He himself had been sentenced in 1946 to 8 years in a labour camp for counter-revolutionary activity in the form of distribution of anti-Soviet propaganda. According to Solzhenitsyn, the fight against Nazi Germany in the Second World War could have been avoided if the Soviet government had reached a compromise with Hitler. Solzhenitsyn also accused the Soviet government and Stalin of being even worse than Hitler from the point of view, according to him, of the dreadful effects of the war on the people of the Soviet Union. Solzhenitsyn did not hide his Nazi sympathies. He was condemned as a traitor.

Solzhenitsyn began in 1962 to publish books in the Soviet Union with the consent and help of Nikita Khrushchev. The first book he published was A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, concerning the life of a prisoner. Khrushchev used Solzhenitsyn's texts to combat Stalin's socialist heritage. In 1970 Solzhenitsyn won the Nobel Prize for literature with his book The Gulag Archipelago. His books then began to be published in large quantities in capitalist countries, their author having become one of the most valuable instruments of imperialism in combating the socialism of the Soviet Union. His texts on the labour camps were added to the propaganda on the millions who were supposed to have died in the Soviet Union and were presented by the capitalist mass media as though they were true. In 1974, Solzhenitsyn renounced his Soviet citizenship and emigrated to Switzerland and then the US. At that time he was considered by the capitalist press to be the greatest fighter for freedom and democracy. His Nazi sympathies were buried so as not to interfere with the propaganda war against socialism.

In the US, Solzhenitsyn was frequently invited to speak at important meetings. He was, for example, the main speaker at the AFL-CIO union congress in 1975, and on 15 July 1975 he was invited to give a lecture on the world situation to the US Senate! His lectures amount to violent and provocative agitation, arguing and propagandising for the most reactionary positions. Among other things he agitated for Vietnam to be attacked again after its victory over the US. And more: after 40 years of fascism in Portugal, when left-wing army officers took power in the people's revolution of 1974, Solzhenitsyn began to propagandise in favour of US military intervention in Portugal which, according to him, would join the Warsaw Pact if the US did not intervene! In his lectures, Solzhenitsyn always bemoaned the liberation of Portugal's African colonies.

But it is clear that the main thrust of Solzhenitsyn's speeches was always the dirty war against socialism - from the alleged execution of several million people in the Soviet Union to the tens of thousands of Americans supposedly imprisoned and enslaved, according to Solzhenitsyn, in North Vietnam! This idea of Solzhenitsyn's of Americans being used as slave labour in North Vietnam gave rise to the Rambo films on the Vietnam war. American journalists who dared write in favour of peace between the US and the Soviet Union were accused by Solzhenitsyn in his speeches of being potential traitors. Solzhenitsyn also propagandised in favour of increasing US military capacity against the Soviet Union, which he claimed was more powerful in 'tanks and aeroplanes, by five to seven times, than the US' as well as in atomic weapons which 'in short' he alleged were 'two, three or even five times' more powerful in the Soviet Union than those held by the US. Solzhenitsyn's lectures on the Soviet Union represented the voice of the extreme right. But he himself went even further to the right in his public support of fascism.
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Communists do abolish private property absolutely yes, but they don't abolish personal property. Here's the difference between private property and personal property. Personal property is your wife, your kids, your house, your car, your clothes, your things. Private property is the mode of production. Modes of production are land, labor, capital, and enterpreuership. Land can be both personal and private property, but land ownership that communists want to abolish are typically the land used for production, such as land that is used for drilling, mining, farming etc. Once private property is abolished it becomes socially owned.

This does not abolish individual motivation because communists still rewards you with personal property items such as homes, cars, clothes etc..

oligarchy: A small group of people who control a country, organization, or institution. Hey that sounds like capitalism!

"During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty."

I'm glad you brought up that point. Communists experience counter-revolutionaries, those are the people who indeed are executed in their terror regimes. Your assumption that communists kill INNOCENTS is flawed.

Here's another tidbit for the general public, capitalists DO get involved in communists revolutions and kill the communists as well. Neither side is innocent of killing. neither side is killing innocents, but communists revolutionaries ARE wars, and indeed war causes food disruptions and killings, but that isn't the goal of communism as a system, that is the side effect of the fact that they are in WAR.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Know this:
When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

What experience do you have living under Communism? Just curious, because if it is so great I would think you would be seeking a nation to live it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

I won't mention why I am here in America, but I assure you that it is easy to guess why.

Communist friends I have contact with in India, who has further contacts with communists living in communist held areas have told me that food is free, there is no exchange of money, there are no police force, no starving people, etc.. In other words they successfully implemented communism fully. it is stateless, classless, and moneyless society where private property is abolished. No I am not only relying on a friend of a friend, the communist friend I have contact with has seen those communist areas himself.
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I'm sorry for ranting.

sorry rant hiding
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you're not ranting, my friend

you are one of those who have seen the slaughterhouse and deathcamp known as a communist/marxist state

just go to youtube and search for "The Internationale" hymn of the USSR and read the hundreds of posts, mostly by brain damaged US and Uk children of the bourgeosie, yearning for communism, making excuses for Stalin

and it all begins with those fatal words: the ends justify the means

communism is a mental illness

Marxism does not exist in the present. Marxism must murder and terrorize millions today in the name of some supposed future which never happens

it is the ideology of psychopaths and sadists

You could almost forgive someone in 1917 embracing on this suicidal experiment, but anyone today who is stupid enough to fall for those genocidal religion poses the same threat to decent people as a rabid dog
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Which begs the question: Will America's FEMA camp gulags of the future also produce such great authors as Solzhenitsyn?
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Know this:
When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

What experience do you have living under Communism? Just curious, because if it is so great I would think you would be seeking a nation to live it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

I won't mention why I am here in America, but I assure you that it is easy to guess why.

Communist friends I have contact with in India, who has further contacts with communists living in communist held areas have told me that food is free, there is no exchange of money, there are no police force, no starving people, etc.. In other words they successfully implemented communism fully. it is stateless, classless, and moneyless society where private property is abolished. No I am not only relying on a friend of a friend, the communist friend I have contact with has seen those communist areas himself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

rofl I am sorry you are so gullible. You mission here will not end well, trust me.
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... simplistic to say the least.

it is power that corrupts the human spirit and mind.

communism is but a tool, not an attitude.

You cannot say that the gun murdered a man.

Dont be foolish man! Get yourself slapped silly please!

It is men who use tools.

If no one has mastered a tool, is it the tool's fault?

Are you to ignore this truth in light of such pride you present?
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Know this:
When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

What experience do you have living under Communism? Just curious, because if it is so great I would think you would be seeking a nation to live it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

I won't mention why I am here in America, but I assure you that it is easy to guess why.

Communist friends I have contact with in India, who has further contacts with communists living in communist held areas have told me that food is free, there is no exchange of money, there are no police force, no starving people, etc.. In other words they successfully implemented communism fully. it is stateless, classless, and moneyless society where private property is abolished. No I am not only relying on a friend of a friend, the communist friend I have contact with has seen those communist areas himself.
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and you have been traced

thank you for falling for this bait ....you pathetic excuse for a human being
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12/04/2012 12:03 AM
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I'm sorry for ranting.

sorry rant hiding
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you're not ranting, my friend

you are one of those who have seen the slaughterhouse and deathcamp known as a communist/marxist state

just go to youtube and search for "The Internationale" hymn of the USSR and read the hundreds of posts, mostly by brain damaged US and Uk children of the bourgeosie, yearning for communism, making excuses for Stalin

and it all begins with those fatal words: the ends justify the means

communism is a mental illness

Marxism does not exist in the present. Marxism must murder and terrorize millions today in the name of some supposed future which never happens

it is the ideology of psychopaths and sadists

You could almost forgive someone in 1917 embracing on this suicidal experiment, but anyone today who is stupid enough to fall for those genocidal religion poses the same threat to decent people as a rabid dog
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Have you ever wondered WHEN famine was abolished in China? Ever wondered WHY famine was abolished in India? Ever wondered WHY the capitalists are trying to abolish famine in Africa?
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12/04/2012 12:04 AM
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Know this:
When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


We don't try.
Sleep well.
hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Why go back to the other extreme to fascism?

How about the golden middle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28977093


putin

Gawd, only a European thinks the opposite of Communism is Fascism.

Look, dear, the opposite of Communism is Anarchy. The opposite of Fascism is also Anarchy. The "golden middle" between Anarchy and totalitarianism is a Constitutional Republic. We used to have one of those in America.

There is no virtue in achieving the "golden middle" between champagne and dog piss.

It's still dog piss.
Tell me what this tastes like...
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12/04/2012 12:06 AM
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Oh yeah Communism.. that's the answer!!! Wooo Hoooo!!! It works soooo well!!! LOL

How a tribute to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!! Every knee WILL bend on the Day of the Lord!!! And if it does not, it will be broken!

That's the faith of a true Christ-man! Live with it, maggots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225135


Christians were the original communists. Hint hint, where did you think Karl Marx got his communist ideas from? Ideologies aren't invented out of thin air, they all have basis in reality.
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12/04/2012 12:08 AM

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Communism only works with perfect beings ....selfish beings that no matter where they are at socially, financially ....etc...etc......they give 100 % at whatever they undertake ....and in that type of scenario ...everyone does undertake some type of productive task.....


Since this isn't the reality that we live in ....then communism will never work

Capitalism isn't perfect either ..... Only because the people on top(the elites) start getting money hungry and they make desicions that hurt the people below them...saying that capitalism is the best system that we have in a democracy

a godly monarchy is the best system but the problem is that the kid of the Godly king surely grows up spoiled and he usually an immature king

In the next life Jesus Christ will be king and he will rule eternally and it will be bliss =)

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And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

What experience do you have living under Communism? Just curious, because if it is so great I would think you would be seeking a nation to live it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox

I won't mention why I am here in America, but I assure you that it is easy to guess why.

Communist friends I have contact with in India, who has further contacts with communists living in communist held areas have told me that food is free, there is no exchange of money, there are no police force, no starving people, etc.. In other words they successfully implemented communism fully. it is stateless, classless, and moneyless society where private property is abolished. No I am not only relying on a friend of a friend, the communist friend I have contact with has seen those communist areas himself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

rofl I am sorry you are so gullible. You mission here will not end well, trust me.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I think it will end up perfectly, from my point of view.

I have a blank spot over my fire place.
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Oh yeah Communism.. that's the answer!!! Wooo Hoooo!!! It works soooo well!!! LOL

How a tribute to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!! Every knee WILL bend on the Day of the Lord!!! And if it does not, it will be broken!

That's the faith of a true Christ-man! Live with it, maggots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225135


Christians were the original communists. Hint hint, where did you think Karl Marx got his communist ideas from? Ideologies aren't invented out of thin air, they all have basis in reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Marx got his ideas from the Talmud.
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And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


We don't try.
Sleep well.
hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Why go back to the other extreme to fascism?

How about the golden middle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28977093


putin

Gawd, only a European thinks the opposite of Communism is Fascism.

Look, dear, the opposite of Communism is Anarchy. The opposite of Fascism is also Anarchy. The "golden middle" between Anarchy and totalitarianism is a Constitutional Republic. We used to have one of those in America.

There is no virtue in achieving the "golden middle" between champagne and dog piss.

It's still dog piss.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

Fascism: A economic and government system. Communism: A economic and government less system.
Constitutional republic; a form of government, but not a economic system.
Communism IS the opposite of fascism.
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12/04/2012 12:10 AM
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After all, since communism was invented by Karl Marx, it is only appropriate to use the inventor of communism's definition of commuism.
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Charles Manson invented the "Manson Family" definition.

Do you subscribe to his definition?
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And NAMBLA defines pedophilia as "LOVE".

Words mean things. Deciding they mean something different than what they ACTUALLY represent, doesn't render that definition true.
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12/04/2012 12:11 AM
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Oh yeah Communism.. that's the answer!!! Wooo Hoooo!!! It works soooo well!!! LOL

How a tribute to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!! Every knee WILL bend on the Day of the Lord!!! And if it does not, it will be broken!

That's the faith of a true Christ-man! Live with it, maggots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225135


Christians were the original communists. Hint hint, where did you think Karl Marx got his communist ideas from? Ideologies aren't invented out of thin air, they all have basis in reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Christians weren't even the original collectivists. They are just the most envied and mis-quoted.

Communism is slavery, pure and simple. As far as we know, the pagan pre-Hebraic societies were the first Communists. They enslaved people and forced them to toil without benefit of their labor.

But this is all in books, so so wonder you are unaware.
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Oh yeah Communism.. that's the answer!!! Wooo Hoooo!!! It works soooo well!!! LOL

How a tribute to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!! Every knee WILL bend on the Day of the Lord!!! And if it does not, it will be broken!

That's the faith of a true Christ-man! Live with it, maggots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225135


Christians were the original communists. Hint hint, where did you think Karl Marx got his communist ideas from? Ideologies aren't invented out of thin air, they all have basis in reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Marx got his ideas from the Talmud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1582303


He also drew many of his ideas from the Christian COMMUNES that were popping up to protect themselves from persecution.
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After all, since communism was invented by Karl Marx, it is only appropriate to use the inventor of communism's definition of commuism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Charles Manson invented the "Manson Family" definition.

Do you subscribe to his definition?
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And NAMBLA defines pedophilia as "LOVE".

Words mean things. Deciding they mean something different than what they ACTUALLY represent, doesn't render that definition true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


EXACTLY!
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What Is 'The Talmud'?

"The Talmud' is the real scripture of the Jews and was completed some 1,500 years ago. The Rabbis say that it supersedes the Old Testament.

Racism Against Gentiles Is Preached In The Talmud

The Talmud preaches that members of the Jewish race are superior to all other races. It says that the Jews rightfully own all the wealth of the Gentiles and should dominate them.

Socialism Is A Concept Preached In The Talmud

The Talmud preaches tribal form of socialism with ownership of property to be controlled by elders of the community. This is the basis of the Kibbutz communes in Israel. Here is the only nation in the world which has voluntarily adopted communal living. The hundreds of Kibbutz in Israel operate many farms and factories. It is of interest that they are always millions in debt and must be bailed out constantly with U.S. Foreign Aid money.

Marx and Engels Were Talmudic Scholars

Karl Marx (born Levi) and another Jew, Friedreich Engels, issued "The Communist Manifesto" in 1848 in London. Marx was descended from a long line of famous Rabbis who were so-called "Talmudic scholars." This is the source from which his communist philosophy springs.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.
THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.AMONGST THE PEOPLE

THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
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Because of course "Dear Leader" and his minions are exempted from these kind of of trivial matters.
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12/04/2012 12:12 AM
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Communism only works with perfect beings ....selfish beings that no matter where they are at socially, financially ....etc...etc......they give 100 % at whatever they undertake ....and in that type of scenario ...everyone does undertake some type of productive task.....


Since this isn't the reality that we live in ....then communism will never work

Capitalism isn't perfect either ..... Only because the people on top(the elites) start getting money hungry and they make desicions that hurt the people below them...saying that capitalism is the best system that we have in a democracy

a godly monarchy is the best system but the problem is that the kid of the Godly king surely grows up spoiled and he usually an immature king

In the next life Jesus Christ will be king and he will rule eternally and it will be bliss =)
 Quoting: Simple_Man


What kind of system should we have until Jesus comes?
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Oh yeah Communism.. that's the answer!!! Wooo Hoooo!!! It works soooo well!!! LOL

How a tribute to ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!! Every knee WILL bend on the Day of the Lord!!! And if it does not, it will be broken!

That's the faith of a true Christ-man! Live with it, maggots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225135


Christians were the original communists. Hint hint, where did you think Karl Marx got his communist ideas from? Ideologies aren't invented out of thin air, they all have basis in reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Marx got his ideas from the Talmud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1582303


He also drew many of his ideas from the Christian COMMUNES that were popping up to protect themselves from persecution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


You two need to read some actual history.
Marx got his ideas from his personal, direct rebellion against Christianity.
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12/04/2012 12:14 AM
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Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common actual ownership, being ascribed to the community (Community get it? communism) as a whole or to the state. Communism is also, in essence, everyone is equal,no exploitation.

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