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A Tribute to Communism

 
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After all, since communism was invented by Karl Marx, it is only appropriate to use the inventor of communism's definition of commuism.
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Charles Manson invented the "Manson Family" definition.

Do you subscribe to his definition?
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And NAMBLA defines pedophilia as "LOVE".

Words mean things. Deciding they mean something different than what they ACTUALLY represent, doesn't render that definition true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


EXACTLY!
cheers
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Look up state capitalism and tell me if state capitalism fits what Soviet Union and China actually was better than communism.
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Fascism: A economic and government system. Communism: A economic and government less system.
Constitutional republic; a form of government, but not a economic system.
Communism IS the opposite of fascism.
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OK.
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Here's a food pellet.
Good night.

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What kind of system should we have until Jesus comes?
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The only one that allows the free exchange of value between sovereign individuals.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.
THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.AMONGST THE PEOPLE

THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28621784


Because of course "Dear Leader" and his minions are exempted from these kind of of trivial matters.
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This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars, because Cuba has a class system still, AND they have money. Look up the word state capitalism and pounder over if Cuba is communist or State capitalist country.
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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.
THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28621784


A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.AMONGST THE PEOPLE

THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28621784


Because of course "Dear Leader" and his minions are exempted from these kind of of trivial matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814

This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars, because Cuba has a class system still, AND they have money. Look up the word state capitalism and pounder over if Cuba is communist or State capitalist country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Yup.
Over my fire place.
Beautiful.
hunt
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Christians were the original communists. Hint hint, where did you think Karl Marx got his communist ideas from? Ideologies aren't invented out of thin air, they all have basis in reality.
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Marx got his ideas from the Talmud.
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He also drew many of his ideas from the Christian COMMUNES that were popping up to protect themselves from persecution.
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You two need to read some actual history.
Marx got his ideas from his personal, direct rebellion against Christianity.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh



Seems to be hereditary aye?
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What kind of system should we have until Jesus comes?
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The only one that allows the free exchange of value between sovereign individuals.
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Which isn't capitalism because people are forced to work under capitalism under the condition that they would starve to death if they don't work. but hey, keep on assuming that death is the only good motivator for humans to conduct economic activities.
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This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars,
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What an awesome oxymoron.

Like "Islamic scholar".

lolatu

The grotesquely false nature of the subject matter negates the classification of "scholar" being applied to any student of its details.

The term "fanboy" is far more applicable.

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A CLASSES SOCIETY OF EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH.AMONGST THE PEOPLE

THATS THE FIRST STEP. THEN GET RID OF MONEY ALL TOGETHER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28621784


Because of course "Dear Leader" and his minions are exempted from these kind of of trivial matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814

This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars, because Cuba has a class system still, AND they have money. Look up the word state capitalism and pounder over if Cuba is communist or State capitalist country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


Yup.
Over my fire place.
Beautiful.
:hunt:
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Here I am, with my head firmly attached, typing away, clearly your threats are empty.
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12/04/2012 12:22 AM
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This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars,
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What an awesome oxymoron.

Like "Islamic scholar".

lolatu

The grotesquely false nature of the subject matter negates the classification of "scholar" being applied to any student of its details.

The term "fanboy" is far more applicable.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist.
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Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common actual ownership, being ascribed to the community (Community get it? communism) as a whole or to the state. Communism is also, in essence, everyone is equal,no exploitation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25922866


So that's why they were literally dying to get out?

Because it was so equal and everybody shared and felt so well taken care of by one another?

Morons.

Let go of your phony definitions and look at HISTORY.

It repeats because idiots like you REFUSE to LEARN from it.
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12/04/2012 12:23 AM
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This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


What an awesome oxymoron.

Like "Islamic scholar".

lolatu

The grotesquely false nature of the subject matter negates the classification of "scholar" being applied to any student of its details.

The term "fanboy" is far more applicable.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699



And people get "degrees" in subjects like "female studies" and "Elizabethan poetry". So what?
Carshy McCarsh (OP)

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12/04/2012 12:24 AM
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Here I am, with my head firmly attached, typing away, clearly your threats are empty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


I never even hinted at instant justice.

Just an eventual, inevitable reckoning. Probably when you least expect it.

Ready to redistribute my property to yourself (of course) and your "workers"?

1rof1
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Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common actual ownership, being ascribed to the community (Community get it? communism) as a whole or to the state. Communism is also, in essence, everyone is equal,no exploitation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25922866


So that's why they were literally dying to get out?

Because it was so equal and everybody shared and felt so well taken care of by one another?

Morons.

Let go of your phony definitions and look at HISTORY.

It repeats because idiots like you REFUSE to LEARN from it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


I don't deny that post-Stalin Soviet Union was oppressive, but I deny that Soviet Union was EVER a communist country. They were a socialist country under Stalin, and reverted back to state capitalism shortly before Stalin's death. Implementing communism takes stages and progress, from capitalism to socialism to communism. Just because communists won revolutions Doesnt mean they instantly implemented communism, it would be absurd to think that economic systems change overnight.
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What experience do you have living under Communism? Just curious, because if it is so great I would think you would be seeking a nation to live it.
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I won't mention why I am here in America, but I assure you that it is easy to guess why.

Communist friends I have contact with in India, who has further contacts with communists living in communist held areas have told me that food is free, there is no exchange of money, there are no police force, no starving people, etc.. In other words they successfully implemented communism fully. it is stateless, classless, and moneyless society where private property is abolished. No I am not only relying on a friend of a friend, the communist friend I have contact with has seen those communist areas himself.
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rofl I am sorry you are so gullible. You mission here will not end well, trust me.
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I think it will end up perfectly, from my point of view.

I have a blank spot over my fire place.
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ohyeahdasbier
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I don't deny that post-Stalin Soviet Union was oppressive,
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How about the during-Stalin Soviet Union?
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What kind of system should we have until Jesus comes?
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The only one that allows the free exchange of value between sovereign individuals.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Which isn't capitalism because people are forced to work under capitalism under the condition that they would starve to death if they don't work. but hey, keep on assuming that death is the only good motivator for humans to conduct economic activities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


There always have been those who could not work and many (it would be a lie to say all) were helped by charities. Is this a perfect system? Not at all, but since I am one who was helped by a charity, I will say it's a hell of lot better than the Communist way.

They just kill the undesirables who don't support the system.
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I won't mention why I am here in America, but I assure you that it is easy to guess why.

Communist friends I have contact with in India, who has further contacts with communists living in communist held areas have told me that food is free, there is no exchange of money, there are no police force, no starving people, etc.. In other words they successfully implemented communism fully. it is stateless, classless, and moneyless society where private property is abolished. No I am not only relying on a friend of a friend, the communist friend I have contact with has seen those communist areas himself.
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rofl I am sorry you are so gullible. You mission here will not end well, trust me.
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I think it will end up perfectly, from my point of view.

I have a blank spot over my fire place.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh

ohyeahdasbier
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Make room in your teepee. There are more than one of these trophies just dieing to be stuffed and mounted.
Tell me what this tastes like...
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This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


What an awesome oxymoron.

Like "Islamic scholar".

lolatu

The grotesquely false nature of the subject matter negates the classification of "scholar" being applied to any student of its details.

The term "fanboy" is far more applicable.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699



And people get "degrees" in subjects like "female studies" and "Elizabethan poetry". So what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814

Economists, who support communism, don't consider Cuba to be a communist country. They consider them to be a state capitalist country, because Cuba has clear classes, and money.
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This is the reason Cuba isn't considered communist among communists scholars,
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What an awesome oxymoron.

Like "Islamic scholar".

lolatu

The grotesquely false nature of the subject matter negates the classification of "scholar" being applied to any student of its details.

The term "fanboy" is far more applicable.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699



And people get "degrees" in subjects like "female studies" and "Elizabethan poetry". So what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


and I assume the retarded poster making that claim is himself a communist scholar

...what a waste fo someone's education dollars, and clearly this tard did not study history or what happens to the scholars and intellectuals in marxist societies

but I am so happy to see the shills drawn out in force tonight... makes part of my job easier
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The commie is in india? Lulz!
[link to www.chinasmack.com]
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I don't deny that post-Stalin Soviet Union was oppressive,
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How about the during-Stalin Soviet Union?
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More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms.
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Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common actual ownership, being ascribed to the community (Community get it? communism) as a whole or to the state. Communism is also, in essence, everyone is equal,no exploitation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25922866


So that's why they were literally dying to get out?

Because it was so equal and everybody shared and felt so well taken care of by one another?

Morons.

Let go of your phony definitions and look at HISTORY.

It repeats because idiots like you REFUSE to LEARN from it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


I don't deny that post-Stalin Soviet Union was oppressive, but I deny that Soviet Union was EVER a communist country. They were a socialist country under Stalin, and reverted back to state capitalism shortly before Stalin's death. Implementing communism takes stages and progress, from capitalism to socialism to communism. Just because communists won revolutions Doesnt mean they instantly implemented communism, it would be absurd to think that economic systems change overnight.
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Oh, I see...so the millions upon millions slaughtered in the PROGRESSION to Communism are ok....cause, you know, it was only the FIRST STEP to Communism....not actually the glory of Communism itself?

It really is a mental illness, isn't it?
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Fascism: A economic and government system. Communism: A economic and government less system.
Constitutional republic; a form of government, but not a economic system.
Communism IS the opposite of fascism.
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OK.
You win.
I am trying to describe physics equations to a gerbil.
Here's a food pellet.
Good night.
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He is trophy material for sure.
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What an awesome oxymoron.

Like "Islamic scholar".

lolatu

The grotesquely false nature of the subject matter negates the classification of "scholar" being applied to any student of its details.

The term "fanboy" is far more applicable.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699



And people get "degrees" in subjects like "female studies" and "Elizabethan poetry". So what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


and I assume the retarded poster making that claim is himself a communist scholar

...what a waste fo someone's education dollars, and clearly this tard did not study history or what happens to the scholars and intellectuals in marxist societies

but I am so happy to see the shills drawn out in force tonight... makes part of my job easier
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I don't know where you got that assumption.
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The commie is in india? Lulz!
[link to www.chinasmack.com]
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communist held areas. The country as whole isn't communist. Look up Maoists in India.
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The Bolsheviks were as "communist" as the Westboro Baptists are "christian".
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People that talk like this, when SHTF, target these folks. We dont want them around during the reboot.
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Let's target them negros and mehicanos too. Then look under the rocks for the rest of the vermin.
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Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common actual ownership, being ascribed to the community (Community get it? communism) as a whole or to the state. Communism is also, in essence, everyone is equal,no exploitation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25922866


So that's why they were literally dying to get out?

Because it was so equal and everybody shared and felt so well taken care of by one another?

Morons.

Let go of your phony definitions and look at HISTORY.

It repeats because idiots like you REFUSE to LEARN from it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


I don't deny that post-Stalin Soviet Union was oppressive, but I deny that Soviet Union was EVER a communist country. They were a socialist country under Stalin, and reverted back to state capitalism shortly before Stalin's death. Implementing communism takes stages and progress, from capitalism to socialism to communism. Just because communists won revolutions Doesnt mean they instantly implemented communism, it would be absurd to think that economic systems change overnight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699

Oh, I see...so the millions upon millions slaughtered in the PROGRESSION to Communism are ok....cause, you know, it was only the FIRST STEP to Communism....not actually the glory of Communism itself?

It really is a mental illness, isn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814

Well of course, do you think the capitalists just freely gives up their power? those millions upon millions killed are capitalists. Here, you try to implement communism and see if you can do it without anyone trying to stop you.
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Communism: The faux philosophy which denies the truisms of private property, individual motivation, and individual sovereignty in favor of the falsehoods of collectivism, egalitarianism, and statism.

Communism achieves power in a traditional bait-and-switch fraudulent sales scheme where it presents itself as an unrealizable ideal of common, distributed authority, but supplies instead an all-powerful oligarchy in charge of all production and consumption, where patrons and supporters of the oligarchy share in the limited stolen wealth of the enslaved state until economic thermodynamics dictate the collapse of the unsupportable facade of the Communist state.

During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty, and universally executes a pseudo-random sub-set of its population, chosen by emotional lottery held the "salesmen" and determined by whoever they felt personally slighted by in their youth. This serves to both install terror in the remaining members of the populace, and to reduce the manpower available to resist the obvious fraud of the bait-and-switch sales effort and the fraudsters who perpetrated it.

A somewhat longer definition than you deserve, but for the sake of readers, supplied.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Communists do abolish private property absolutely yes, but they don't abolish personal property. Here's the difference between private property and personal property. Personal property is your wife, your kids, your house, your car, your clothes, your things. Private property is the mode of production. Modes of production are land, labor, capital, and enterpreuership. Land can be both personal and private property, but land ownership that communists want to abolish are typically the land used for production, such as land that is used for drilling, mining, farming etc. Once private property is abolished it becomes socially owned.

This does not abolish individual motivation because communists still rewards you with personal property items such as homes, cars, clothes etc..

oligarchy: A small group of people who control a country, organization, or institution. Hey that sounds like capitalism!

"During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty."

I'm glad you brought up that point. Communists experience counter-revolutionaries, those are the people who indeed are executed in their terror regimes. Your assumption that communists kill INNOCENTS is flawed.

Here's another tidbit for the general public, capitalists DO get involved in communists revolutions and kill the communists as well. Neither side is innocent of killing. neither side is killing innocents, but communists revolutionaries ARE wars, and indeed war causes food disruptions and killings, but that isn't the goal of communism as a system, that is the side effect of the fact that they are in WAR.
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Know this:
When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


clappa
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What an awesome oxymoron.

Like "Islamic scholar".

lolatu

The grotesquely false nature of the subject matter negates the classification of "scholar" being applied to any student of its details.

The term "fanboy" is far more applicable.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699



And people get "degrees" in subjects like "female studies" and "Elizabethan poetry". So what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814

Economists, who support communism, don't consider Cuba to be a communist country. They consider them to be a state capitalist country, because Cuba has clear classes, and money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699


and yet Cuba still managed to murder hundreds of thousands who disagreed with their insane government, you deranged piece of communist infected filth,

why on earth do we see thousands of cuban refugees, escaping on anything vaguely capable of floating, risking death just to leave that hell hole and come to the USA

tell me that, oh brilliant scholar of communist "wisdom"

are you on drugs, are you truly so delusional that despite 100 years woth of communist murder and mayhem you still think communism can work - if onlyt YOU were the one in charge I guess

dangerous psychopath

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