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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 12/04/2012 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814 So that's why they were literally dying to get out? Because it was so equal and everybody shared and felt so well taken care of by one another? Morons. Let go of your phony definitions and look at HISTORY. It repeats because idiots like you REFUSE to LEARN from it. I don't deny that post-Stalin Soviet Union was oppressive, but I deny that Soviet Union was EVER a communist country. They were a socialist country under Stalin, and reverted back to state capitalism shortly before Stalin's death. Implementing communism takes stages and progress, from capitalism to socialism to communism. Just because communists won revolutions Doesnt mean they instantly implemented communism, it would be absurd to think that economic systems change overnight. Oh, I see...so the millions upon millions slaughtered in the PROGRESSION to Communism are ok....cause, you know, it was only the FIRST STEP to Communism....not actually the glory of Communism itself? It really is a mental illness, isn't it? Well of course, do you think the capitalists just freely gives up their power? those millions upon millions killed are capitalists. Here, you try to implement communism and see if you can do it without anyone trying to stop you. No the millions on millions weren't capitalists. Most were initially WORKERS who supported the takeover. Til they found out it was really a totalitarian nightmare. THEN they said...Hmmmm....Maybe my life wasn't so bad before. Maybe I can escape or use the same tactics we used to bring in this mess. Not so much. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist. And people get "degrees" in subjects like "female studies" and "Elizabethan poetry". So what? Economists, who support communism, don't consider Cuba to be a communist country. They consider them to be a state capitalist country, because Cuba has clear classes, and money. and yet Cuba still managed to murder hundreds of thousands who disagreed with their insane government, you deranged piece of communist infected filth, why on earth do we see thousands of cuban refugees, escaping on anything vaguely capable of floating, risking death just to leave that hell hole and come to the USA tell me that, oh brilliant scholar of communist "wisdom" are you on drugs, are you truly so delusional that despite 100 years woth of communist murder and mayhem you still think communism can work - if onlyt YOU were the one in charge I guess dangerous psychopath State capitalist societies are indeed oppressive, I feel for those who live in Cuba. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 I don't deny that post-Stalin Soviet Union was oppressive, but I deny that Soviet Union was EVER a communist country. They were a socialist country under Stalin, and reverted back to state capitalism shortly before Stalin's death. Implementing communism takes stages and progress, from capitalism to socialism to communism. Just because communists won revolutions Doesnt mean they instantly implemented communism, it would be absurd to think that economic systems change overnight. Oh, I see...so the millions upon millions slaughtered in the PROGRESSION to Communism are ok....cause, you know, it was only the FIRST STEP to Communism....not actually the glory of Communism itself? It really is a mental illness, isn't it? Well of course, do you think the capitalists just freely gives up their power? those millions upon millions killed are capitalists. Here, you try to implement communism and see if you can do it without anyone trying to stop you. No the millions on millions weren't capitalists. Most were initially WORKERS who supported the takeover. Til they found out it was really a totalitarian nightmare. THEN they said...Hmmmm....Maybe my life wasn't so bad before. Maybe I can escape or use the same tactics we used to bring in this mess. Not so much. those workers were the ones executing capitalists under Stalin's orders. Why would stalin execute his largest supporters? Communism is SPECIFICALLY designed to appeal to the worker's class and is where communists draw their power, why be so absurd and think that communists would betray their comrades. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20476822 12/04/2012 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 Communists do abolish private property absolutely yes, but they don't abolish personal property. Here's the difference between private property and personal property. Personal property is your wife, your kids, your house, your car, your clothes, your things. Private property is the mode of production. Modes of production are land, labor, capital, and enterpreuership. Land can be both personal and private property, but land ownership that communists want to abolish are typically the land used for production, such as land that is used for drilling, mining, farming etc. Once private property is abolished it becomes socially owned. This does not abolish individual motivation because communists still rewards you with personal property items such as homes, cars, clothes etc.. oligarchy: A small group of people who control a country, organization, or institution. Hey that sounds like capitalism! "During the time between the sales pitch and the collapse, Communism blames its failures on internal disloyalty." I'm glad you brought up that point. Communists experience counter-revolutionaries, those are the people who indeed are executed in their terror regimes. Your assumption that communists kill INNOCENTS is flawed. Here's another tidbit for the general public, capitalists DO get involved in communists revolutions and kill the communists as well. Neither side is innocent of killing. neither side is killing innocents, but communists revolutionaries ARE wars, and indeed war causes food disruptions and killings, but that isn't the goal of communism as a system, that is the side effect of the fact that they are in WAR. Know this: When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport. And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways. ![]() Go eat a dick Canadian faggot |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1582303 12/04/2012 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814 Oh, I see...so the millions upon millions slaughtered in the PROGRESSION to Communism are ok....cause, you know, it was only the FIRST STEP to Communism....not actually the glory of Communism itself? It really is a mental illness, isn't it? Well of course, do you think the capitalists just freely gives up their power? those millions upon millions killed are capitalists. Here, you try to implement communism and see if you can do it without anyone trying to stop you. No the millions on millions weren't capitalists. Most were initially WORKERS who supported the takeover. Til they found out it was really a totalitarian nightmare. THEN they said...Hmmmm....Maybe my life wasn't so bad before. Maybe I can escape or use the same tactics we used to bring in this mess. Not so much. those workers were the ones executing capitalists under Stalin's orders. Why would stalin execute his largest supporters? Communism is SPECIFICALLY designed to appeal to the worker's class and is where communists draw their power, why be so absurd and think that communists would betray their comrades. |
| EMPerror User ID: 8804293 12/04/2012 12:46 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Oh, this will be fun. You really want to challenge me to a duel on linguistics, history, and philosophy? Definitions are only valid if they reflect reality. Defining a thing using language which does not accurately reflect its actual attributes results in an invalid definition. Please, feel free to submit your invalid definition, and I'll fix the bitch for you, gratis. My definition of communism is the definition that Karl Marx put forth. communism is the classless, stateless, and moneyless society by which private property is abolished. What's your definition? This definition historically fits only hunter-gatherer band society. Have you heard of the current communist armed movements in India? They successfully and fully implemented communism in their deeply held areas. Unfortunately, there are a lot of events in Latin America, Africa, Asia. Hardly it is possible to evaluate all of them due to poor communication infrastructure or poverty in some places. It's sad, that there are armed conflicts. |
| Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms. On sight, motherfucker. On sight. Tell me what this tastes like... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 Well of course, do you think the capitalists just freely gives up their power? those millions upon millions killed are capitalists. Here, you try to implement communism and see if you can do it without anyone trying to stop you. No the millions on millions weren't capitalists. Most were initially WORKERS who supported the takeover. Til they found out it was really a totalitarian nightmare. THEN they said...Hmmmm....Maybe my life wasn't so bad before. Maybe I can escape or use the same tactics we used to bring in this mess. Not so much. those workers were the ones executing capitalists under Stalin's orders. Why would stalin execute his largest supporters? Communism is SPECIFICALLY designed to appeal to the worker's class and is where communists draw their power, why be so absurd and think that communists would betray their comrades. Not even Hitler randomly killed people. Use your own sense and logic rather than using secondary sources. Perhaps Some evidence that Stalin killed because people were out past curfew would be nice, but not even capitalist sources that I have read have claimed something so absurd as this video above implies. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28621784 12/04/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Carshy McCarsh Know this: When the state protection mechanisms fail, and you are responsible for your own safety, and it's totally up to you to live long enough to progress the glorious workers' revolution of Communism, I won't be the only one hunting you parasites for sport. And I won't be the only one killing people who are trying to kill us communists. It works both ways. ![]() Go eat a dick Canadian faggot Go kiss a supervisor's ass and lick a manager's balls |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms. On sight, motherfucker. On sight. Ever heard of the Moscow trials? It's not a myth, Soviet Union had a court system. They didnt kill people on sight after the revolution was over. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1582303 12/04/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814 No the millions on millions weren't capitalists. Most were initially WORKERS who supported the takeover. Til they found out it was really a totalitarian nightmare. THEN they said...Hmmmm....Maybe my life wasn't so bad before. Maybe I can escape or use the same tactics we used to bring in this mess. Not so much. those workers were the ones executing capitalists under Stalin's orders. Why would stalin execute his largest supporters? Communism is SPECIFICALLY designed to appeal to the worker's class and is where communists draw their power, why be so absurd and think that communists would betray their comrades. Not even Hitler randomly killed people. Use your own sense and logic rather than using secondary sources. Perhaps Some evidence that Stalin killed because people were out past curfew would be nice, but not even capitalist sources that I have read have claimed something so absurd as this video above implies. The commies would kill you for having smooth hand because that meant you were an intellectual and not a laborer. Commies murdered over 66,000,000 in Russia alone. Communism, like you, is pure evil. |
| Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scholars are a specialist among a branch of study. communism is a branch of economics. Communist scholars do exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 ![]() I'm sure you tell yourselves that. Just like Trekkies consider themselves Federation scientists. Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 12:56 AM Tell me what this tastes like... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 those workers were the ones executing capitalists under Stalin's orders. Why would stalin execute his largest supporters? Communism is SPECIFICALLY designed to appeal to the worker's class and is where communists draw their power, why be so absurd and think that communists would betray their comrades. Not even Hitler randomly killed people. Use your own sense and logic rather than using secondary sources. Perhaps Some evidence that Stalin killed because people were out past curfew would be nice, but not even capitalist sources that I have read have claimed something so absurd as this video above implies. The commies would kill you for having smooth hand because that meant you were an intellectual and not a laborer. Commies murdered over 66,000,000 in Russia alone. Communism, like you, is pure evil. 66 million!!!! The Soviet Union population was only 120 million! You think Stalin killed over HALF of the population!!!? World bank showed that Russia had an increasing population up until Putin took office! |
| Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms. On sight, motherfucker. On sight. Ever heard of the Moscow trials? It's not a myth, Soviet Union had a court system. They didnt kill people on sight after the revolution was over. My jurisprudence system has a far more obvious and simple mechanism for determining guilt and assigning sentence. ![]() On. Sight. /done wasting time talking to a future trophy Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/04/2012 01:02 AM Tell me what this tastes like... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms. On sight, motherfucker. On sight. Ever heard of the Moscow trials? It's not a myth, Soviet Union had a court system. They didnt kill people on sight after the revolution was over. My jurisprudence system has a far more obvious and simply obvious mechanism for determining guilt and assigning sentence. ![]() On. Sight. /done wasting time talking to a future trophy That doesn't mean the communists had your jurisprudence. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not even Hitler randomly killed people. Use your own sense and logic rather than using secondary sources. Perhaps Some evidence that Stalin killed because people were out past curfew would be nice, but not even capitalist sources that I have read have claimed something so absurd as this video above implies. The commies would kill you for having smooth hand because that meant you were an intellectual and not a laborer. Commies murdered over 66,000,000 in Russia alone. Communism, like you, is pure evil. 66 million!!!! The Soviet Union population was only 120 million! You think Stalin killed over HALF of the population!!!? World bank showed that Russia had an increasing population up until Putin took office! The world bank also shows that the Chinese population life expectency also rose 20 years WHILE under Mao's control!! There are also other sources that indicate Chinese infant mortality rate dropped from 35 to 15 while under Mao's control. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 Not even Hitler randomly killed people. Use your own sense and logic rather than using secondary sources. Perhaps Some evidence that Stalin killed because people were out past curfew would be nice, but not even capitalist sources that I have read have claimed something so absurd as this video above implies. The commies would kill you for having smooth hand because that meant you were an intellectual and not a laborer. Commies murdered over 66,000,000 in Russia alone. Communism, like you, is pure evil. 66 million!!!! The Soviet Union population was only 120 million! You think Stalin killed over HALF of the population!!!? World bank showed that Russia had an increasing population up until Putin took office! The world bank also shows that the Chinese population life expectency also rose 20 years WHILE under Mao's control!! There are also other sources that indicate Chinese infant mortality rate dropped from 35 to 15 while under Mao's control. No actually just the mortality rate, not infant mortality rate. 35 to 15 is the greatest reduction in mortality rate in the HISTORY of mankind. Thanks to Mao. |
Desert Fox![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 12/04/2012 01:08 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms. On sight, motherfucker. On sight. Ever heard of the Moscow trials? It's not a myth, Soviet Union had a court system. They didnt kill people on sight after the revolution was over. My jurisprudence system has a far more obvious and simple mechanism for determining guilt and assigning sentence. ![]() On. Sight. /done wasting time talking to a future trophy ![]() |
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| Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms. Only complicated if you are mentally handicapped. To anyone of average intelligence, Stalin is yet another example of the psychopath who gravitates toward government because of his own inability to control his own life. Communists are predictably 100% not in control of their own lives, hence their fascination with controlling everyone else. Tell me what this tastes like... |
| Carshy McCarsh (OP) User ID: 1531528 12/04/2012 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it means you'll experience ours. Go ahead, I am sitting idle in my home. Me too. Tomorrow comes when you don't expect it. Tell me what this tastes like... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1582303 12/04/2012 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not even Hitler randomly killed people. Use your own sense and logic rather than using secondary sources. Perhaps Some evidence that Stalin killed because people were out past curfew would be nice, but not even capitalist sources that I have read have claimed something so absurd as this video above implies. The commies would kill you for having smooth hand because that meant you were an intellectual and not a laborer. Commies murdered over 66,000,000 in Russia alone. Communism, like you, is pure evil. 66 million!!!! The Soviet Union population was only 120 million! You think Stalin killed over HALF of the population!!!? World bank showed that Russia had an increasing population up until Putin took office! Over how much TIME? 66,000,000 is actually a low estimate. Then we have the Holodomor...seems killing be starvation is another method favored by the Jew-Commies...it costs so little to accomplish you know. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More complicated. Stalin strove to implement democracy, other communists were afraid that the capitalists would regain power, so they prevented democratic reforms. Only complicated if you are mentally handicapped. To anyone of average intelligence, Stalin is yet another example of the psychopath who gravitates toward government because of his own inability to control his own life. Communists are predictably 100% not in control of their own lives, hence their fascination with controlling everyone else. Laughing out loud! Communism: A stateless, classless, moneyless society! Communists want to ABOLISH the government! Stalin tried to implement democracy! You can even google and see for yourself! Google Stalin's struggle to implement democracy! and yet you, in your delusions STILL think communists want to control others! laughing out loud! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 Not even Hitler randomly killed people. Use your own sense and logic rather than using secondary sources. Perhaps Some evidence that Stalin killed because people were out past curfew would be nice, but not even capitalist sources that I have read have claimed something so absurd as this video above implies. The commies would kill you for having smooth hand because that meant you were an intellectual and not a laborer. Commies murdered over 66,000,000 in Russia alone. Communism, like you, is pure evil. 66 million!!!! The Soviet Union population was only 120 million! You think Stalin killed over HALF of the population!!!? World bank showed that Russia had an increasing population up until Putin took office! Over how much TIME? 66,000,000 is actually a low estimate. Then we have the Holodomor...seems killing be starvation is another method favored by the Jew-Commies...it costs so little to accomplish you know. If communists killed so many people then explain WHY the population of Russia was increasing until Putin's era! |
| EMPerror User ID: 8804293 12/04/2012 01:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ever heard of the Moscow trials? It's not a myth, Soviet Union had a court system. They didnt kill people on sight after the revolution was over. My jurisprudence system has a far more obvious and simply obvious mechanism for determining guilt and assigning sentence. ![]() On. Sight. /done wasting time talking to a future trophy That doesn't mean the communists had your jurisprudence. That is interesting thought. How did millions of people appear in cattle trains at night? What kind of jurispurdence managed constantly to solve more than 20000 cases in one area throughout one night (from arrest until all were loaded to the trains going straight to the death camps)? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17837699 12/04/2012 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17837699 Ever heard of the Moscow trials? It's not a myth, Soviet Union had a court system. They didnt kill people on sight after the revolution was over. My jurisprudence system has a far more obvious and simply obvious mechanism for determining guilt and assigning sentence. ![]() On. Sight. /done wasting time talking to a future trophy That doesn't mean the communists had your jurisprudence. That is interesting thought. How did millions of people appear in cattle trains at night? What kind of jurispurdence managed constantly to solve more than 20000 cases in one area throughout one night (from arrest until all were loaded to the trains going straight to the death camps)? It honestly sounds like you are confusing the Nazis with communists. The qulags were labor camps, not death camps, VERY little amount of people died in qulags when penicillin was fully implemented in Soviet Union. LACK of medicine was the PRIMARY cause of death in gulags. Millions of people in Europe and America died due to the Spanish flu, yet NO ONE would accuse those countries of killing their civilians! Yet a variety of causes of deaths in Soviet Union was intentionally labeled to be due to communism. |