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~JustMe~ (OP) User ID: 18606339 United States 12/03/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria UN pulling staff from Syria, violence near capital Fighting between rebels and government forces raged near the Syrian capital Damascus on Monday, forcing an inbound commercial jet to turn back while the U.N. said it was withdrawing staff because of deteriorating security conditions. [link to news.yahoo.com] |
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~JustMe~ (OP) User ID: 18606339 United States 12/03/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria Obama Administration Warns Syria Against Using Chemical Weapons WASHINGTON — The Obama administration said Monday that it is worried that Syria’s embattled government may be preparing to use chemical weapons against the opposition and warned that doing so “would cross a red line for the United States” and prompt American action. [link to www.nytimes.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5386088 United States 12/03/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria Exclusive: U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons for Possible Attack Quoting: ~JustMe~ Engineers working for the Assad regime in Syria have begun combining the two chemical precursors needed to weaponize sarin gas, an American official with knowledge of the situation tells Danger Room. International observers are now more worried than they’ve even been that the Damascus government could use its nerve agent stockpile to slaughter its own people. [link to www.wired.com] If Assad is murdering thousands of people how come no countries around the world helping? I'm just wondering? Are we soon going into Syria now or what? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28466137 Ireland 12/03/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria There is no need for the Syrian army to combine stuff and fill it up because the precursors are already stored in the ammunition when that artillery ammunition or aerial bomb is fabricated. They are stored in two separate chambers and the ammunition is safe for transport and storage. We've heard all this WMD propaganda before in Iraq. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Binary chemical weapons or munitions are chemical weapons wherein the toxic agent is not contained within the weapon in its active state, but in the form of two chemical precursors, physically separated within the weapon. The precursors are designed to be significantly less toxic than the agent they make when mixed, and this allows the weapon to be transported and stored more safely than otherwise. The safety provided by binary chemical weapons is especially important for people who live near ammunition dumps. The chemical reaction takes place while the weapon is in flight. Firing the munition ruptures the capsules. The munition spins rapidly in flight, which thoroughly mixes the two precursors, so they can react with one another. Finally, a bursting charge aerosolizes and distributes the chemical agent" |
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tarfonwxx User ID: 959411 United States 12/03/2012 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria UN Yanking Staff From Syria While US says it is 'planning to take action' if chemical weapons threat materializes The UN is yanking "all non-essential international staff" out of Syria in response to the escalating violence there, it announced today. Up to a quarter of its 100 foreign staffers may leave within the week, the BBC reports. The UN has also temporarily forbidden all field trips into Syria from Damascus. "For as long as international humanitarian law is not full observed by all parties … UN agencies have to review the size of their presence," one official says. The move came on the heels of reports that Syria was mobilizing its chemical arsenal, and following Hillary Clinton's stark warning to the regime not to use those weapons: "I'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do," Clinton said today, according to CNN, "but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur." [link to www.newser.com] |
~JustMe~ (OP) User ID: 18606339 United States 12/03/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria Syria mixing chemical warfare agents, U.S. official Syrian forces began combining chemicals that would be used to make deadly sarin gas for use in weapons to attack rebel and civilian populations, a U.S. official tells CNN. The United States obtained intelligence over the weekend indicating this development, according to the official who had direct knowledge of the latest information. The intelligence, the official said, came from multiple sources but declined to provide any more details about how the United states learned of it. Sarin gas, the source said, could most readily be used to fill artillery shells. [link to security.blogs.cnn.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28018721 United States 12/03/2012 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria BS, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28466137 There is no need for the Syrian army to combine stuff and fill it up because the precursors are already stored in the ammunition when that artillery ammunition or aerial bomb is fabricated. They are stored in two separate chambers and the ammunition is safe for transport and storage. We've heard all this WMD propaganda before in Iraq. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Binary chemical weapons or munitions are chemical weapons wherein the toxic agent is not contained within the weapon in its active state, but in the form of two chemical precursors, physically separated within the weapon. The precursors are designed to be significantly less toxic than the agent they make when mixed, and this allows the weapon to be transported and stored more safely than otherwise. The safety provided by binary chemical weapons is especially important for people who live near ammunition dumps. The chemical reaction takes place while the weapon is in flight. Firing the munition ruptures the capsules. The munition spins rapidly in flight, which thoroughly mixes the two precursors, so they can react with one another. Finally, a bursting charge aerosolizes and distributes the chemical agent" Nailed it! It's the WMD propaganda hoax all over again. We will fall for it again. A testament to Amerikan brainwashed stupidity. |
~JustMe~ (OP) User ID: 18606339 United States 12/03/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria The Atlantic reports: Israel asked for Jordan’s approval to bomb Syria’s chemical weapons caches. Reportedly, Jordan said ‘no’. [link to www.israelandstuff.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15775729 United States 12/03/2012 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria This is so much bigger than sarin gas? Remember those photos of trucks moving WMD from Iraq into Syria? Remember Bekaa Valley? Last thing H.Clinton will admit is that Bush was right about those weapons. Do you actually think there would be such scrambling if sarin was the only concern? The "Damascus Phase Prophecy" may be near. One thing that concerned me about Obama stepping in as the last minute bringing about the latest peace agreement? Just in time for the UN to recognize Palestine? If Damascus is destroyed we may soon hear trumpets |
tarfonwxx User ID: 959411 United States 12/03/2012 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria Syria moves chemical weapons, White House warns of crossing 'red line' The Syrian government began to move its chemical weapons in recent days, senior U.S. officials confirmed to Fox News, prompting new warnings from the Obama administration that using those weapons against the population would cross a "red line." One senior U.S. official told Fox News "there are concerns about possible preparations for use" of the weapons, though "we don't know yet if they plan to use them." The official added, "There are troubling signs of late." The confirmation came as both Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney issued new warnings to Syria. "As the opposition makes strategic advances and grows in strength, the Assad regime has been unable to halt the opposition's progress through conventional means," Carney said Monday. "And we are concerned that an increasingly beleaguered regime -- having found its escalation of violence through conventional means inadequate -- might be considering the use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people." Carney said using or proliferating those weapons "would cross a red line for the United States." "They will be held accountable by the United States and the international community if they use chemical weapons or fail to meet their obligation to secure them." Carney would not say whether the movement of weapons by itself could cross the so-called red line. Clinton, in Prague for meetings with Czech officials, also reiterated President Obama's declaration that Syrian action on chemical weapons was a "red line" for the United States that would prompt action. "I'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the Assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people. But suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur," she said. Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29009480 United States 12/03/2012 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria BS, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28466137 There is no need for the Syrian army to combine stuff and fill it up because the precursors are already stored in the ammunition when that artillery ammunition or aerial bomb is fabricated. They are stored in two separate chambers and the ammunition is safe for transport and storage. We've heard all this WMD propaganda before in Iraq. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Binary chemical weapons or munitions are chemical weapons wherein the toxic agent is not contained within the weapon in its active state, but in the form of two chemical precursors, physically separated within the weapon. The precursors are designed to be significantly less toxic than the agent they make when mixed, and this allows the weapon to be transported and stored more safely than otherwise. The safety provided by binary chemical weapons is especially important for people who live near ammunition dumps. The chemical reaction takes place while the weapon is in flight. Firing the munition ruptures the capsules. The munition spins rapidly in flight, which thoroughly mixes the two precursors, so they can react with one another. Finally, a bursting charge aerosolizes and distributes the chemical agent" Here is another wikipedia link [link to en.wikipedia.org] Degradation and shelf life The most important chemical reactions of phosphoryl halides is the hydrolysis of the bond between phosphorus and the fluoride. This P-F bond is easily broken by nucleophilic agents, such as water and hydroxide. At high pH, sarin decomposes rapidly to nontoxic phosphonic acid derivatives.[10][11] Sarin degrades after a period of several weeks to several months. The shelf life can be shortened by impurities in precursor materials. According to the CIA, some Iraqi sarin had a shelf life of only a few weeks, owing mostly to impure precursors.[12] The persistence of sarin can be extended through the addition of certain oils or petroleum products. Its otherwise short shelf life can be extended by increasing the purity of the precursor and intermediates and incorporating stabilizers such as tributylamine. In some formulations, tributylamine is replaced by diisopropylcarbodiimide (DIC), allowing sarin to be stored in aluminium casings. In binary chemical weapons, the two precursors are stored separately in the same shell and mixed to form the agent immediately before or when the shell is in flight. This approach has the dual benefit of solving the stability issue and increasing the safety of sarin munitions. Reading this, it would seem that sarin degrades too quickly to be in a mixed form and would be used in binary chemical weapons as our friend from Ireland has pointed out. but I am not an expert....just some guy reading the internet.... |
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tarfonwxx User ID: 959411 United States 12/03/2012 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria @AlArabiya_Eng #BreakingNews: Syria combining chemicals to make #sarin gas, US official tells AFP [link to goo.gl] |
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Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 12/03/2012 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria Security Clearance @natlsecuritycnn 56m Source: #Syria mixing chemicals for use in weapons. Story from @barbarastarrcnn on Security Clearance soon (@dangerroom first to report) [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3579236 United States 12/03/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING:U.S. Sees Syria Prepping Chemical Weapons - UN pulling staff from Syria - Inbound planes turned back - Israel wants to bomb Syria great way to start a war with other countrys. YaY! lets send 75000 more troops over there too! what i dont understand is the the ideologies of diggin your nose into someone elses imaginary lines :) |
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