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Applying for my 1st patent next year...

 
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Applying for my 1st patent next year...
I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy.

Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck!
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12/04/2012 05:23 AM
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12/04/2012 05:30 AM
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My first 3 products are designed to save lives. Wish I could share the ideas here but until they are patent pending of course I cannot share them.
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12/04/2012 05:31 AM
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My first 3 products are designed to save lives. Wish I could share the ideas here but until they are patent pending of course I cannot share them.
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Indubitably.
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12/04/2012 05:35 AM
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I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy.

Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck!
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Good for you.
Wish you a great success!!!!!!
5a
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12/04/2012 05:42 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm tired here on earth. Sometimes I think if I could just get one product to market that ended up saving the lives or children I could go ahead and die a happy man.
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I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy.

Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck!
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Good luck! And what's next after you get a patent? Just curious. I don't know how it works with patents. Are you intending to sell rights to some company?
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12/04/2012 05:49 AM
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as long as try don't slow anybody down and encourage everyone to go the speed of a 62 year old women or little girl
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12/04/2012 05:52 AM
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as long as try don't slow anybody down and encourage everyone to go the speed of a 62 year old women or little girl
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^try = they^
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12/04/2012 05:59 AM
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and what about a prototype to make sure it works

I'm working on some shit to but it has to work better than anything else and last a lifetime

and there is a level of health that goes with it

sounds like your aiming for the communist market
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I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy.

Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck!
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Good luck! And what's next after you get a patent? Just curious. I don't know how it works with patents. Are you intending to sell rights to some company?
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I'm trying not to worry about that step just yet. I would hope to sell my patents for an initial cash sum plus royalties... or if I'm forced to, put the produce the product myself until I can eventually sell it to another company. Good question.
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and what about a prototype to make sure it works

I'm working on some shit to but it has to work better than anything else and last a lifetime

and there is a level of health that goes with it

sounds like your aiming for the communist market
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435


You bring up a valid concern. Before I do anything I will need to make sure my most valuable products are protected overseas as well, if that is even possible. I knew a guy who's invention was ripped off by the Chinese. It destroyed the American guy. He got so mad rumor has it he flew over to the factory in China and actually killed the Chinese guy.

As far as prototypes, there are many ways to build them yourself by making molds and pouring liquid resin plastic. You can also buy a milling machine. I actually have a milling machine but it's not necessary.
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12/04/2012 06:16 AM
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real

there is no way to keep a product from being reporduced

well war

you looking to profit from febleness is lame

are you trying to make it safer for fat people and guys with something stuck up there ass to walk down the street

because thats what fucked everthing up
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12/04/2012 06:18 AM
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real

there is no way to keep a product from being reporduced

well war

you looking to profit from febleness is lame

are you trying to make it safer for fat people and guys with something stuck up there ass to walk down the street

because thats what fucked everthing up
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Were you born an idiot or did you have to work at it?
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12/04/2012 06:22 AM
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Dude, bro' I am in the same situation but am realistic.
Get informed first.
"Today, over all, patents don’t work; for the information technology industry especially, they don’t work,” said James Bessen, who became a lecturer at Boston University’s law school after a career in business. In 1983, he created the first computer publishing software with Wysiwyg (an acronym for “what you see is what you get”) printing abilities. He also founded a desktop publishing company, Bestinfo, later acquired by Intergraph"

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[link to web.williams.edu]
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12/04/2012 06:24 AM
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Dude, bro' I am in the same situation but am realistic.
Get informed first.
"Today, over all, patents don’t work; for the information technology industry especially, they don’t work,” said James Bessen, who became a lecturer at Boston University’s law school after a career in business. In 1983, he created the first computer publishing software with Wysiwyg (an acronym for “what you see is what you get”) printing abilities. He also founded a desktop publishing company, Bestinfo, later acquired by Intergraph"

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[link to web.williams.edu]
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Patents don't protect you from being copied. They only give you the right to sue someone for copying you.
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12/04/2012 06:30 AM
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Some other general facts about patents and products. You don't need a patent to make and sell a product. Less than 2% of all patents ever issued ever made any money for anyone. Less than 1% of all products on the market have any patent protection. And, patents don't make money, profitable sales do!


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12/04/2012 06:32 AM
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I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy.

Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477


All the Patent Offices in the world are the biggest scam ever !
Bigger than all the WW1/2 fake wars, bigger than the vaccines or the "Darwinian evolution".

It is meant to be THE MAIN FRICTION against our (otherwise) rapid technical evolution towards a non-scarcity world (therefore no rulers)

Shame on you!
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Dude, bro' I am in the same situation but am realistic.
Get informed first.
"Today, over all, patents don’t work; for the information technology industry especially, they don’t work,” said James Bessen, who became a lecturer at Boston University’s law school after a career in business. In 1983, he created the first computer publishing software with Wysiwyg (an acronym for “what you see is what you get”) printing abilities. He also founded a desktop publishing company, Bestinfo, later acquired by Intergraph"

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[link to web.williams.edu]
 Quoting: IsTime


Patents don't protect you from being copied. They only give you the right to sue someone for copying you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477


However, what would be maddening is to go into the market with your product without a patent, have someone copy you and them patent your product, then they turn around and sue you. So I would say that getting a patent is not a waste of time.

Then again... I have also thought about just giving my live saving inventions away for free online and maybe asking for donations or something. Sounds lame but it might actually work.
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12/04/2012 06:32 AM
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real

there is no way to keep a product from being reporduced

well war

you looking to profit from febleness is lame

are you trying to make it safer for fat people and guys with something stuck up there ass to walk down the street

because thats what fucked everthing up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435



Were you born an idiot or did you have to work at it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477


your a comminist

our econemy is about sabatage repair replace

education based on espienage

our exports dont justify our popules existance or market
IsTime

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12/04/2012 06:34 AM
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BTW I am not being pessimistic ,I will go on with my invention being patented,but the best thing to do is being informed.

Last Edited by IsTime on 12/04/2012 06:36 AM
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people become trapped in obsoleet markets and tecknolegies

and laws that make life safer to protect those markets

can you acknowlege what I have just said please
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12/04/2012 06:39 AM
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people become trapped in obsoleet markets and tecknolegies

and laws that make life safer to protect those markets

can you acknowlege what I have just said please
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435


I acknowledge that you could make your point a little more clear. You sound insane.
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12/04/2012 06:39 AM
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do you even have a shop or a lab going

probly not

go straight to the patents

little jerk
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12/04/2012 07:32 AM
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leek-proof vibrating butt-plug with retaining sack and cord
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do you even have a shop or a lab going

probly not

go straight to the patents

little jerk
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Like I said. You kinda sound crazy.
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12/04/2012 08:01 AM
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the analchoke

and the collarflower
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12/04/2012 08:07 AM
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and what about a prototype to make sure it works

I'm working on some shit to but it has to work better than anything else and last a lifetime

and there is a level of health that goes with it

sounds like your aiming for the communist market
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435


You bring up a valid concern. Before I do anything I will need to make sure my most valuable products are protected overseas as well, if that is even possible. I knew a guy who's invention was ripped off by the Chinese. It destroyed the American guy. He got so mad rumor has it he flew over to the factory in China and actually killed the Chinese guy.

As far as prototypes, there are many ways to build them yourself by making molds and pouring liquid resin plastic. You can also buy a milling machine. I actually have a milling machine but it's not necessary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477


What kind of mill are you running? Got a little cnc'd x2 here.

I wouldn't focus so much on the patent. As others said, it offers little protection. I consulted a patent attorney for years while developing a motocross neck brace unlike anything on the market. I was advised to focus on a trademark of the design, protects the "art" aspect of the form. The attorney made it clear that if a large company wished to infringe on my patent, the victory would be whomever could stay in court the longest. Since the competitors have lawyers on retainer, they would easily walk all over me. Food for thought.
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Re: Applying for my 1st patent next year...
and what about a prototype to make sure it works

I'm working on some shit to but it has to work better than anything else and last a lifetime

and there is a level of health that goes with it

sounds like your aiming for the communist market
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435


You bring up a valid concern. Before I do anything I will need to make sure my most valuable products are protected overseas as well, if that is even possible. I knew a guy who's invention was ripped off by the Chinese. It destroyed the American guy. He got so mad rumor has it he flew over to the factory in China and actually killed the Chinese guy.

As far as prototypes, there are many ways to build them yourself by making molds and pouring liquid resin plastic. You can also buy a milling machine. I actually have a milling machine but it's not necessary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477


What kind of mill are you running? Got a little cnc'd x2 here.

I wouldn't focus so much on the patent. As others said, it offers little protection. I consulted a patent attorney for years while developing a motocross neck brace unlike anything on the market. I was advised to
focus on a trademark of the design, protects the "art" aspect of the form. The attorney made it clear that if a large company wished to infringe on my patent, the victory would be whomever could stay in court the longest. Since the competitors have lawyers on retainer, they would easily walk all over me. Food for thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952489


Pardon the atrocious spelling. Meant to add that there is nothing preventing you from slapping "patents pending" on your product, even if you haven't filed a single form. Could serve as a deterrent to other "home brew engineers" who may eye your prize. Good luck man.

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