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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1189758 12/04/2012 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck! Good for you. Wish you a great success!!!!!! ![]() |
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| Chaga User ID: 28831928 12/04/2012 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck! Good luck! And what's next after you get a patent? Just curious. I don't know how it works with patents. Are you intending to sell rights to some company? |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1212477 12/04/2012 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck! Good luck! And what's next after you get a patent? Just curious. I don't know how it works with patents. Are you intending to sell rights to some company? I'm trying not to worry about that step just yet. I would hope to sell my patents for an initial cash sum plus royalties... or if I'm forced to, put the produce the product myself until I can eventually sell it to another company. Good question. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1212477 12/04/2012 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and what about a prototype to make sure it works Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435 I'm working on some shit to but it has to work better than anything else and last a lifetime and there is a level of health that goes with it sounds like your aiming for the communist market You bring up a valid concern. Before I do anything I will need to make sure my most valuable products are protected overseas as well, if that is even possible. I knew a guy who's invention was ripped off by the Chinese. It destroyed the American guy. He got so mad rumor has it he flew over to the factory in China and actually killed the Chinese guy. As far as prototypes, there are many ways to build them yourself by making molds and pouring liquid resin plastic. You can also buy a milling machine. I actually have a milling machine but it's not necessary. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29056435 12/04/2012 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | real there is no way to keep a product from being reporduced well war you looking to profit from febleness is lame are you trying to make it safer for fat people and guys with something stuck up there ass to walk down the street because thats what fucked everthing up |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1212477 12/04/2012 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | real Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435 there is no way to keep a product from being reporduced well war you looking to profit from febleness is lame are you trying to make it safer for fat people and guys with something stuck up there ass to walk down the street because thats what fucked everthing up Were you born an idiot or did you have to work at it? |
| IsTime User ID: 29057327 12/04/2012 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, bro' I am in the same situation but am realistic. Get informed first. "Today, over all, patents don’t work; for the information technology industry especially, they don’t work,” said James Bessen, who became a lecturer at Boston University’s law school after a career in business. In 1983, he created the first computer publishing software with Wysiwyg (an acronym for “what you see is what you get”) printing abilities. He also founded a desktop publishing company, Bestinfo, later acquired by Intergraph" . [link to web.williams.edu] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1212477 12/04/2012 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, bro' I am in the same situation but am realistic. Quoting: IsTime Get informed first. "Today, over all, patents don’t work; for the information technology industry especially, they don’t work,” said James Bessen, who became a lecturer at Boston University’s law school after a career in business. In 1983, he created the first computer publishing software with Wysiwyg (an acronym for “what you see is what you get”) printing abilities. He also founded a desktop publishing company, Bestinfo, later acquired by Intergraph" . [link to web.williams.edu] Patents don't protect you from being copied. They only give you the right to sue someone for copying you. |
| IsTime User ID: 29057327 12/04/2012 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some other general facts about patents and products. You don't need a patent to make and sell a product. Less than 2% of all patents ever issued ever made any money for anyone. Less than 1% of all products on the market have any patent protection. And, patents don't make money, profitable sales do! [link to www.idearights.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25701329 12/04/2012 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have invented about 5 products that should have no problem selling. Then I have about 20 more that might sell. And about 30 more that are crazy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212477 Anyway, I am finally getting down to the business of filing for my first patent in 2013. Wish me luck! All the Patent Offices in the world are the biggest scam ever ! Bigger than all the WW1/2 fake wars, bigger than the vaccines or the "Darwinian evolution". It is meant to be THE MAIN FRICTION against our (otherwise) rapid technical evolution towards a non-scarcity world (therefore no rulers) Shame on you! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1212477 12/04/2012 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude, bro' I am in the same situation but am realistic. Quoting: IsTime Get informed first. "Today, over all, patents don’t work; for the information technology industry especially, they don’t work,” said James Bessen, who became a lecturer at Boston University’s law school after a career in business. In 1983, he created the first computer publishing software with Wysiwyg (an acronym for “what you see is what you get”) printing abilities. He also founded a desktop publishing company, Bestinfo, later acquired by Intergraph" . [link to web.williams.edu] Patents don't protect you from being copied. They only give you the right to sue someone for copying you. However, what would be maddening is to go into the market with your product without a patent, have someone copy you and them patent your product, then they turn around and sue you. So I would say that getting a patent is not a waste of time. Then again... I have also thought about just giving my live saving inventions away for free online and maybe asking for donations or something. Sounds lame but it might actually work. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29056435 12/04/2012 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | real Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435 there is no way to keep a product from being reporduced well war you looking to profit from febleness is lame are you trying to make it safer for fat people and guys with something stuck up there ass to walk down the street because thats what fucked everthing up Were you born an idiot or did you have to work at it? your a comminist our econemy is about sabatage repair replace education based on espienage our exports dont justify our popules existance or market |
| IsTime User ID: 29057327 12/04/2012 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW I am not being pessimistic ,I will go on with my invention being patented,but the best thing to do is being informed. Last Edited by IsTime on 12/04/2012 06:36 AM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17952489 12/04/2012 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and what about a prototype to make sure it works Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435 I'm working on some shit to but it has to work better than anything else and last a lifetime and there is a level of health that goes with it sounds like your aiming for the communist market You bring up a valid concern. Before I do anything I will need to make sure my most valuable products are protected overseas as well, if that is even possible. I knew a guy who's invention was ripped off by the Chinese. It destroyed the American guy. He got so mad rumor has it he flew over to the factory in China and actually killed the Chinese guy. As far as prototypes, there are many ways to build them yourself by making molds and pouring liquid resin plastic. You can also buy a milling machine. I actually have a milling machine but it's not necessary. What kind of mill are you running? Got a little cnc'd x2 here. I wouldn't focus so much on the patent. As others said, it offers little protection. I consulted a patent attorney for years while developing a motocross neck brace unlike anything on the market. I was advised to focus on a trademark of the design, protects the "art" aspect of the form. The attorney made it clear that if a large company wished to infringe on my patent, the victory would be whomever could stay in court the longest. Since the competitors have lawyers on retainer, they would easily walk all over me. Food for thought. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17952489 12/04/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and what about a prototype to make sure it works Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056435 I'm working on some shit to but it has to work better than anything else and last a lifetime and there is a level of health that goes with it sounds like your aiming for the communist market You bring up a valid concern. Before I do anything I will need to make sure my most valuable products are protected overseas as well, if that is even possible. I knew a guy who's invention was ripped off by the Chinese. It destroyed the American guy. He got so mad rumor has it he flew over to the factory in China and actually killed the Chinese guy. As far as prototypes, there are many ways to build them yourself by making molds and pouring liquid resin plastic. You can also buy a milling machine. I actually have a milling machine but it's not necessary. What kind of mill are you running? Got a little cnc'd x2 here. I wouldn't focus so much on the patent. As others said, it offers little protection. I consulted a patent attorney for years while developing a motocross neck brace unlike anything on the market. I was advised to focus on a trademark of the design, protects the "art" aspect of the form. The attorney made it clear that if a large company wished to infringe on my patent, the victory would be whomever could stay in court the longest. Since the competitors have lawyers on retainer, they would easily walk all over me. Food for thought. Pardon the atrocious spelling. Meant to add that there is nothing preventing you from slapping "patents pending" on your product, even if you haven't filed a single form. Could serve as a deterrent to other "home brew engineers" who may eye your prize. Good luck man. |